From yanick at babyl.dyndns.org Sun Apr 1 09:12:29 2012 From: yanick at babyl.dyndns.org (Yanick Champoux) Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:12:29 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Bulk Orders (of Modern Perl) for User Groups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F787E6D.4010600@babyl.dyndns.org> Hey all, Onyx Neon offers a nice rebate for bulk orders of their books: http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2012/03/bulk-orders-for-user-groups.html Would anyone in the group be interested to be part of a group order? I, myself, already have my Modern Perl book -- or had, as it's now bouncing from desk to desk at the office -- but I must say the 'Liftoff' book intrigue me... Joy, `/anick From rowe at pythian.com Sun Apr 1 09:47:38 2012 From: rowe at pythian.com (Dag Rowe) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:47:38 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Bulk Orders (of Modern Perl) for User Groups In-Reply-To: <4F787E6D.4010600@babyl.dyndns.org> References: <4F787E6D.4010600@babyl.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I'd be interested in a second copy of Modern Perl to float around the desks at the office. Dag On Sunday, April 1, 2012, Yanick Champoux wrote: > Hey all, > > Onyx Neon offers a nice rebate for bulk orders of their books: > http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2012/03/bulk-orders-for-user-groups.html Would anyone in the group be interested to be part of a group order? I, myself, already have my Modern Perl book -- or had, as it's now bouncing from desk to desk at the office -- but I must say the 'Liftoff' book intrigue me... > > Joy, > `/anick > > _______________________________________________ > Ottawa-pm mailing list > Ottawa-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/ottawa-pm > -- -- Pythian proud winner of Oracle North America Titan Award for Exadata Solution...watch the video on pythian.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deanpearce at gmail.com Sun Apr 1 10:09:35 2012 From: deanpearce at gmail.com (Dean Pearce) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:09:35 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Bulk Orders (of Modern Perl) for User Groups In-Reply-To: References: <4F787E6D.4010600@babyl.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Fantastic idea, I will be in as well for some books, I will reply later. On 2012-04-01 12:47 PM, "Dag Rowe" wrote: > > I'd be interested in a second copy of Modern Perl to float around the desks at the office. > > Dag > > > On Sunday, April 1, 2012, Yanick Champoux wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > Onyx Neon offers a nice rebate for bulk orders of their books: > > http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2012/03/bulk-orders-for-user-groups.html Would anyone in the group be interested to be part of a group order? I, myself, already have my Modern Perl book -- or had, as it's now bouncing from desk to desk at the office -- but I must say the 'Liftoff' book intrigue me... > > > > Joy, > > `/anick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ottawa-pm mailing list > > Ottawa-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/ottawa-pm > > > -- > Pythian proud winner of Oracle North America Titan Award for Exadata Solution...watch the video on pythian.com > > _______________________________________________ > Ottawa-pm mailing list > Ottawa-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/ottawa-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From champoux at pythian.com Wed Apr 11 07:23:28 2012 From: champoux at pythian.com (Yanick Champoux) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:23:28 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Modern Perl batch order going in! Message-ID: <4F8593E0.6060700@pythian.com> Hey all, Just to say that enough peeps spoke up to warrant the batch order, yay! I'll likely do that tonight or tomorrow (so it's not too late to speak up if you want one too). Also, I'm planning a meeting for the end of the month (likely a social one), before Mike returns to far-away Halifax. Anybody has any particular day preference? Cheers, `/anick -- Yanick Champoux, Senior Perl Developer The Pythian Group - love your data http://www.pythian.com -- -- Discover the latest MySQL tips and tricks from Pythian?s top talent at this year?s MySQL Conference April 10-12. Details at pythian.com/news From yanick at babyl.dyndns.org Tue Apr 17 17:11:30 2012 From: yanick at babyl.dyndns.org (Yanick Champoux) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:11:30 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Modern Perl order done + meeting next week Message-ID: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org> Hey all, OnyxNeon got back to me, and our order of Modern Perl is almost on its way. I've ordered one more copy than the requested tally so far, to preemptively counter-strike the usual post-ultimate "me too!". :-) In other news, it's almost the end of the semester for our coop students, and Mike Doherty will soon be leaving us (*sniff*). In consequence... social meeting next Tuesday (Apr 24th) at the Pub Italia? The date seems to be the most auspicious for peeps I consulted, and the location is only set as such by the forces of inertia -- alternatives are more than welcome . And sorry, I wanted to send that notice last week, but ten billions germs decided to turn yours truly into a brainless ooze factory before I could hit the 'send' button. :-( Joy, `/anick From allan.fields at gmail.com Wed Apr 18 05:13:47 2012 From: allan.fields at gmail.com (Allan Fields) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:13:47 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Modern Perl order done + meeting next week In-Reply-To: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org> References: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Tuesday, April 17, 2012, Yanick Champoux wrote: > Hey all, > > OnyxNeon got back to me, and our order of Modern Perl is almost on its way. I've ordered one more copy than the requested tally so far, to preemptively counter-strike the usual post-ultimate "me too!". :-) > > In other news, it's almost the end of the semester for our coop students, and Mike Doherty will soon be leaving us (*sniff*). In consequence... social meeting next Tuesday (Apr 24th) at the Pub Italia? The date seems to be the most auspicious for peeps I consulted, and the location is only set as such by the forces of inertia -- alternatives are more than welcome . And sorry, I wanted to send that notice last week, but ten billions germs decided to turn yours truly into a brainless ooze factory before I could hit the 'send' button. :-( > > > Joy, > `/anick > _______________________________________________ > Ottawa-pm mailing list > Ottawa-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/ottawa-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From allan.fields at gmail.com Sat Apr 21 17:46:06 2012 From: allan.fields at gmail.com (Allan Fields) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:46:06 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Modern Perl order done + meeting next week In-Reply-To: References: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Me too. I am quite busy so haven't the time to put in my order. As for location: How about in a mall food-court that is not overly busy. That is organization neutral but not as good as a meeting room. Still, it is better than bar (not to make certain people sad, but I'm not a fan of bar as much as foo). In the end last time wqs enjoyable, so whatever. One thing I was looking at recently was to bring a perl snippet of my own project to a meetup, that would allow a demo. Last time all I brought was slides; no laptop, no code. If I cannot come prepared, do they stand benefit? Would have perhaps liked to see the historiki presentation, but i've been all booked up. Recently, I am in IT bigtime, not a lot or Perl code written. The exceptions are small projects and changing shebang and mail path on perl scripts... Fun, but more nix than perl on this second contract! But these are some of the largest servers in Canada. This says a lot of the longetivity of perl lang. While I haven't read in depth, a lot of the code likely dates from mid-late 90s, and ran immediately on recent perl5 Linux x86_64 from original Sparc Sun servers with older perl5. (Perfect, no script deltas that I am aware, using all core modules.) One thing I am always concerned with is quality of Java code compared with Perl, which runs rock solid, but isn't strictly typed. While these days Java crashes much less and developers do predominately good job handling memory.. for a mission critical server, you'd hope they don't rely on something heavily in a plugin which requires a lot of constant tweaking to remain stable. I've seen positive signs which shows Java based application servers less prone to abend. Even mod_perl used to be blamed in forums for eventually causing Apache instability; yet I am sure it would have faired better in good hands aware of mod_perl perf tuning. I can't claim that is certainly me, because though I've read about it, I've never done a large scale mod_perl deployment beyond 20+ users on FreeBsd circa 2000 (it was rock solid for me), I recall this due to compiling and reading tweaking that didn't apply to my small site, but what would the consequences be for a large server? For now, I am not touching the Java web side myself, but have fun with Java apps on my various assorted gadgets instead at home, as a user. I do feel a bit of a leech downloading all those free Java apps, but then I also pay in appstore and don't complain. The only equiv for perl is Cpan and charge-per script sites, but Perl was there first. Engadget anyone? I know you want one, get your (next) Java gadget. At least my OLPC runs Perl! Thanks, Allan Fields On Tuesday, April 17, 2012, Yanick Champoux wrote: > Hey all, > > OnyxNeon got back to me, and our order of Modern Perl is almost on its way. I've ordered one more copy than the requested tally so far, to preemptively counter-strike the usual post-ultimate "me too!". :-) > > In other news, it's almost the end of the semester for our coop students, and Mike Doherty will soon be leaving us (*sniff*). In consequence... social meeting next Tuesday (Apr 24th) at the Pub Italia? The date seems to be the most auspicious for peeps I consulted, and the location is only set as such by the forces of inertia -- alternatives are more than welcome . And sorry, I wanted to send that notice last week, but ten billions germs decided to turn yours truly into a brainless ooze factory before I could hit the 'send' button. :-( > > > Joy, > `/anick > _______________________________________________ > Ottawa-pm mailing list > Ottawa-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/ottawa-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yanick at babyl.dyndns.org Sun Apr 22 19:05:18 2012 From: yanick at babyl.dyndns.org (Yanick Champoux) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:05:18 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Modern Perl order done + meeting next week In-Reply-To: References: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4F94B8DE.2080907@babyl.dyndns.org> On 12-04-21 08:46 PM, Allan Fields wrote: > I am quite busy so haven't the time to put in my order. Darn. Oh well. If things go well, who knows, maybe we'll have subsequent orders? :-) > As for location: How about in a mall food-court that is not overly busy. > That is organization neutral but not as good as a meeting room. I must say, I'm not overly crazy about food courts. Mind you, I understand the desire for a more presentation-friendly venue, and in consequence try to have every second(ish) meeting at the whiteboardalicious and TV-enabled Pythian headquarter. At the next social, we could also try the caf? that Veljko proposed a few months back (which menu's looked quite yummy)? Joy, `/anick From doherty at cs.dal.ca Mon Apr 23 11:23:32 2012 From: doherty at cs.dal.ca (doherty) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:23:32 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Modern Perl order done + meeting next week In-Reply-To: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org> References: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Sounds great - see you all there! -Mike On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:11:30 -0400, Yanick Champoux wrote: > In other news, it's almost the end of the semester for our coop > students, and Mike Doherty will soon be leaving us (*sniff*). In > consequence... social meeting next Tuesday (Apr 24th) at the Pub > Italia? From steve at purkis.ca Mon Apr 23 12:50:58 2012 From: steve at purkis.ca (Steve Purkis) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:50:58 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Modern Perl order done + meeting next week In-Reply-To: References: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Looking forward to it - see you all there tomorrow! -Steve On 23 Apr 2012, at 14:23, doherty wrote: > Sounds great - see you all there! > > -Mike > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:11:30 -0400, Yanick Champoux wrote: >> In other news, it's almost the end of the semester for our coop >> students, and Mike Doherty will soon be leaving us (*sniff*). In >> consequence... social meeting next Tuesday (Apr 24th) at the Pub >> Italia? > _______________________________________________ > Ottawa-pm mailing list > Ottawa-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/ottawa-pm From veljko at gmail.com Mon Apr 23 13:02:43 2012 From: veljko at gmail.com (Veljko Vidovic) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:02:43 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Modern Perl order done + meeting next week In-Reply-To: <4F94B8DE.2080907@babyl.dyndns.org> References: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org> <4F94B8DE.2080907@babyl.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I am not sure I understand where we will be meeting tomorrow, http://sanguiccio.ca or Pythian? And somehow I've missed time too ;) On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Yanick Champoux wrote: > On 12-04-21 08:46 PM, Allan Fields wrote: > >> I am quite busy so haven't the time to put in my order. >> > > Darn. Oh well. If things go well, who knows, maybe we'll have > subsequent orders? :-) > > > As for location: How about in a mall food-court that is not overly busy. >> That is organization neutral but not as good as a meeting room. >> > > I must say, I'm not overly crazy about food courts. Mind you, I > understand the desire for a more presentation-friendly venue, and in > consequence try to have every second(ish) meeting at the whiteboardalicious > and TV-enabled Pythian headquarter. At the next social, we could also try > the caf? that Veljko proposed a few months back (which menu's looked quite > yummy)? > > > > Joy, > `/anick > ______________________________**_________________ > Ottawa-pm mailing list > Ottawa-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/**listinfo/ottawa-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at purkis.ca Mon Apr 23 13:41:14 2012 From: steve at purkis.ca (Steve Purkis) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:41:14 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Modern Perl order done + meeting next week In-Reply-To: References: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org> <4F94B8DE.2080907@babyl.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I thought it was Pub Italia, with sanguiccio the next social? And Pythian for tech meets. BTW, The Code Factory - http://thecodefactory.ca/ - would also be a good spot for tech meets, I've been to at least one before. It's right downtown, so easy to get to. I can get in touch with them if you like and see if they'd be up for that? Cheers, -Steve 2012/4/23 Veljko Vidovic > I am not sure I understand where we will be meeting tomorrow, > http://sanguiccio.ca or Pythian? And somehow I've missed time too ;) > > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Yanick Champoux > wrote: > >> On 12-04-21 08:46 PM, Allan Fields wrote: >> >>> I am quite busy so haven't the time to put in my order. >>> >> >> Darn. Oh well. If things go well, who knows, maybe we'll have >> subsequent orders? :-) >> >> >> As for location: How about in a mall food-court that is not overly busy. >>> That is organization neutral but not as good as a meeting room. >>> >> >> I must say, I'm not overly crazy about food courts. Mind you, I >> understand the desire for a more presentation-friendly venue, and in >> consequence try to have every second(ish) meeting at the whiteboardalicious >> and TV-enabled Pythian headquarter. 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Hope to see youses there! `/anick From champoux at pythian.com Tue Apr 24 12:46:30 2012 From: champoux at pythian.com (Yanick Champoux) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:46:30 -0400 Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Modern Perl order done + meeting next week In-Reply-To: References: <4F8E06B2.3090703@babyl.dyndns.org>

Message-ID: <4F970316.8000100@pythian.com> FYI: reservation made for ~ 6 peeps under Yanick Champoux / The Perl Group. Hoping to see youses tonight! `/anick -- -- Attending Collaborate12 Apr 22-26? Catch Pythian?s stellar roster of speakers presenting on a wide array of hot Oracle technology topics. More at pythian.com/news