From thukral at pobox.com  Thu Sep  8 09:45:26 2011
From: thukral at pobox.com (Raj)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:45:26 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Recommendations for where to buy a new machine?
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I've had good luck with HP refurbs from FS.  However, I'd keep the windows
install in a small partition - probably restore from the recovery partition
and update once in a while - but shrink it down and use the rest of the disk
for a real OS.  Its far easier to get support from FS / HP if you can boot
into windows and pretend its your main OS.

--Raj.


On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Yanick Champoux <yanick at babyl.dyndns.org>wrote:

> On 11-08-03 10:52 PM, Shawn H Corey wrote:
>
>> On 11-08-03 10:40 PM, Yanick Champoux wrote:
>>
>>> ... Okay, there *must* be a catch. ;-)
>>>
>>
>> It comes with Windows. :(
>>
>
>        Yeah, I could without the Microsoft Tax, considering that any
> Windows OS is wiped within the hour of crossing the threshold of my house.
> But even if we factor it within the price, it still not half-bad.
>
> Joy,
> `/anick
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From yanick at babyl.dyndns.org  Sun Sep 11 06:28:54 2011
From: yanick at babyl.dyndns.org (Yanick Champoux)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:28:54 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Recommendations for where to buy a new machine?
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On 11-09-08 12:45 PM, Raj wrote:
> I've had good luck with HP refurbs from FS.  However, I'd keep the
> windows install in a small partition - probably restore from the
> recovery partition and update once in a while - but shrink it down and
> use the rest of the disk for a real OS.  Its far easier to get support
> from FS / HP if you can boot into windows and pretend its your main OS.

	Thanks for all the recommendations.  At the end, I went with RB 
Computing (http://www.shoprbc.com). The price wasn't rock-bottom, but it 
was more than fair, and I got good service when I dealt with them in the 
past. Plus, they are a stone throw away from my place.

	Anyway. Can't talk for long. My download of Natty Narwhal is done, and 
I should burn that baby on a CD and begin the install on my new toy... ;-)

Joy,
`/anick

From matthew at mdarwin.ca  Sun Sep 11 06:39:42 2011
From: matthew at mdarwin.ca (Matthew Darwin)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:39:42 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Recommendations for where to buy a new machine?
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BTW, Kubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Beta 1 works fine.  I'm using it 
as my main desktop.


On 11-09-11 09:28 AM, Yanick Champoux wrote:
> Anyway. Can't talk for long. My download of Natty Narwhal is done, and
> I should burn that baby on a CD and begin the install on my new toy...
> ;-)
>
> Joy,
> `/anick
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From yanick at babyl.dyndns.org  Sun Sep 11 06:53:05 2011
From: yanick at babyl.dyndns.org (Yanick Champoux)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:53:05 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Recommendations for where to buy a new machine?
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On 11-09-11 09:39 AM, Matthew Darwin wrote:
> BTW, Kubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Beta 1 works fine.  I'm using it as
> my main desktop.

	Holy mackerel. Progress really doesn't wait for no man. They churn'em 
faster that I can install'em. O.o

	Thanks for the tip!

	Oh, and totally unrelated, but the video of my Dancer talk at 
SummerCamp is now available at 
http://www.fosslc.org/drupal/content/dancer-perl-micro-web-application-framework-0

Joy,
`/anick

From allan.fields at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 23:50:07 2011
From: allan.fields at gmail.com (Allan Fields)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 02:50:07 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Perl6 eval
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While I've had good success with a Client-Server Perl6 haz-bah, my
long term intent is to use it as a block in a web service.

A few questions to this list for those having Perl6 knowledge with
Grammar internals, likewise I'm going to hang around #perl6
(freenode).

Happily, many modules exist now, that do cool things in the new v6
code base and I was able to use these under PANDA.

It still does seem like an excercise in ACME::Language for the time
being, but practical applications I am assured are not that far off.
I'd be interested to hear stories of those who have succeeded in
implementing Perl6 rakudo in their pre-prod or prod environment.

In the mean-time, I currently have a small tool I've written which
parses text based upon grammars and a match which was specified
against various strings and which returns a results vector.

In my PoC, I have a work-around which uses a dispatch hash to choose
which grammar to return results for based on the values from another
process.  This is acceptable given the end application, but will mean
that the fully modular grammar cannot be passed to the backend
process, but must be registered into the server, then called by the
client.

Back to the evaluation method..
The mechanism involved in the eval of a Grammar, attempts 2-3 approaches:

0)  String: An attempt is made to evaluate a string  containing a
grammar but this approach does not work.

1)  String concat: An attempt is made to build and evaluate a string
containing a grammar.

2)  Finally, evaluation of a Grammar block with the rules/tokens
inlined.  (Which interpolation in the Grammar does this?  A simple
variable substitution doesn't.)


I have also made an attempt to work with the match object/tree
returned from larger Matches in order to extract the desired results.

Perl6 is quite flexible in how you can work with the results of the
match, but it is a bit hard for a v6 newbie to grok the Match object
syntax, so what I do to shed soem light is to simply print the
$match.perl block and see what-all is returned.

See attach code example showing how/why you cannot simply eval a
grammar block yet.  I loathe that I have not simply got some
successful cases to post to list.  I'll try to get some code snippets
here (affirming Perl6 works well in target applications.)


Thanks,
    Allan Fields
    Ottawa, Canada
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