From yanick at babyl.dyndns.org  Mon Aug  4 09:54:35 2008
From: yanick at babyl.dyndns.org (Yanick Champoux)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:54:35 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] OSBootcamp on interpreted languages
Message-ID: <4897344B.6040008@babyl.dyndns.org>


	Just to say that this August the OSBootCamp mini-conference will be on 
interpreted languages (http://www.osbootcamp.org/index.php?page=yow8). 
I'll be the one presenting Perl, and Mike is going to present Python. 
Hopefully, the Ruby guys will also be there to sell their gem -- I'm 
currently using all of my taunting powers to make sure they have the 
proper motivation to do it.  ;-)

Joy,
`/anick

From msoulier at digitaltorque.ca  Mon Aug  4 17:48:31 2008
From: msoulier at digitaltorque.ca (Michael P. Soulier)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:48:31 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] [ottawa-pm] OSBootcamp on interpreted languages
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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Yanick Champoux
<yanick at babyl.dyndns.org> wrote:
>
>        Just to say that this August the OSBootCamp mini-conference will be
> on interpreted languages (http://www.osbootcamp.org/index.php?page=yow8).
> I'll be the one presenting Perl, and Mike is going to present Python.

Personally I find 35 minutes a tad short for a proper language introduction.

Mike

From msoulier at digitaltorque.ca  Mon Aug  4 18:13:58 2008
From: msoulier at digitaltorque.ca (Michael P. Soulier)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:13:58 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] [ottawa-pm] OSBootcamp on interpreted languages
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On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Yanick Champoux
<yanick.champoux at gmail.com> wrote:
>   It's indeed quite short.  Personally, I think I'll aim to provide a

Yeah, I was thinking similar, although I could blow a whole half-hour
on the debate on enforced whitespace in Python. :)

Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier <msoulier at digitaltorque.ca>
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
--Albert Einstein

From yanick.champoux at gmail.com  Mon Aug  4 18:43:59 2008
From: yanick.champoux at gmail.com (Yanick Champoux)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:43:59 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] [ottawa-pm] OSBootcamp on interpreted languages
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Hi Mike!

Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Yanick Champoux
> <yanick at babyl.dyndns.org> wrote:
>   
>>        Just to say that this August the OSBootCamp mini-conference will be
>> on interpreted languages (http://www.osbootcamp.org/index.php?page=yow8).
>> I'll be the one presenting Perl, and Mike is going to present Python.
>>     
>
> Personally I find 35 minutes a tad short for a proper language introduction.
>   

    It's indeed quite short.  Personally, I think I'll aim to provide a 
lightning fast bio of the language (when was Perl created, what's the 
deal with Perl 5 and Perl 6, etc.), provide a few of the reasons why one 
would want to use the language (CPAN, CPAN and, oh yes, CPAN), and throw 
hooks on where to get more information (mailing lists, Perl Mongers, 
YAPC, etc.).  My secret hope is that this first bone we'll throw to the 
crowd will be just enough to make them want more, and then lead them to  
eventual  real full-fledged, comprehensive introduction to the languages. 

Joy,
`/anick

From grof at rogers.com  Mon Aug  4 23:42:04 2008
From: grof at rogers.com (Andrew Ross)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:42:04 -0700
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] [ottawa-pm] OSBootcamp on interpreted languages
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	<4897B05F.6060701@gmail.com>
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Hi All,

Yeah, it's pretty much impossible to draw an ideal line when doing talks
like these. Too short and not enough gets covered. Too long though and
people would get tired and overwhelmed. Thus, we've decided to arbitrarily
draw it where it makes for a good fit in an evening.

I am extremely supportive of additional osbootcamp events to do more in
depth talks.

Please note that we shifted the time slightly to allow for free parking
downtown. Thank you to Ian Graham for support and allowing us to do the
event at TheCodeFactory.

Thank you all for supporting and interest in osbootcamp. Special thanks
again to the speakers.

Andrew 
http://osbootcamp.org

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To: Michael P. Soulier
Cc: ottawa-pm at pm.org; ottawa-pm at lists.davintech.ca
Subject: Re: [Ottawa-pm] [ottawa-pm] OSBootcamp on interpreted languages

Hi Mike!

Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Yanick Champoux 
> <yanick at babyl.dyndns.org> wrote:
>   
>>        Just to say that this August the OSBootCamp mini-conference 
>> will be on interpreted languages
(http://www.osbootcamp.org/index.php?page=yow8).
>> I'll be the one presenting Perl, and Mike is going to present Python.
>>     
>
> Personally I find 35 minutes a tad short for a proper language
introduction.
>   

    It's indeed quite short.  Personally, I think I'll aim to provide a
lightning fast bio of the language (when was Perl created, what's the deal
with Perl 5 and Perl 6, etc.), provide a few of the reasons why one would
want to use the language (CPAN, CPAN and, oh yes, CPAN), and throw hooks on
where to get more information (mailing lists, Perl Mongers, YAPC, etc.).  My
secret hope is that this first bone we'll throw to the crowd will be just
enough to make them want more, and then lead them to eventual  real
full-fledged, comprehensive introduction to the languages. 

Joy,
`/anick
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From mark at mark.mielke.cc  Mon Aug  4 22:55:43 2008
From: mark at mark.mielke.cc (Mark Mielke)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:55:43 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] [ottawa-pm] OSBootcamp on interpreted languages
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Message-ID: <4897EB5F.2050304@mark.mielke.cc>

Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Yanick Champoux
> <yanick.champoux at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>>   It's indeed quite short.  Personally, I think I'll aim to provide a
>>     
>
> Yeah, I was thinking similar, although I could blow a whole half-hour
> on the debate on enforced whitespace in Python. :)
>   

And how ridiculous of a mistake it was given the other beauties of 
Python? :-)

Cheers,
mark

-- 
Mark Mielke <mark at mielke.cc>

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From yanick at babyl.dyndns.org  Tue Aug  5 18:12:51 2008
From: yanick at babyl.dyndns.org (Yanick Champoux)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:12:51 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] [ottawa-pm] OSBootcamp on interpreted languages
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Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Yanick Champoux
> <yanick.champoux at gmail.com> wrote:
>>   It's indeed quite short.  Personally, I think I'll aim to provide a
> 
> Yeah, I was thinking similar, although I could blow a whole half-hour
> on the debate on enforced whitespace in Python. :)

	Yuuup... Actually, I'm pretty sure we could fill a week-long conference 
on that topic. :-)

Andrew wrote:
> Yeah, it's pretty much impossible to draw an ideal line when doing talks
> like these. Too short and not enough gets covered. Too long though and
> people would get tired and overwhelmed. Thus, we've decided to arbitrarily
> draw it where it makes for a good fit in an evening.

	Makes sense.  Plus, let's not forget we'll have an additional 20 
minutes of food and drinks where speakers will be able to mingle with 
the rest of the peeps and pursue the evangelism on a more interactive 
basis (unless the food manages to distract us from our mission, that 
is). :-)

Joy,
`/anick



From yanick at babyl.dyndns.org  Sat Aug  9 07:17:02 2008
From: yanick at babyl.dyndns.org (Yanick Champoux)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:17:02 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] ottawa-pm@lists.davintech.ca to close in one week
Message-ID: <489DA6DE.5030308@babyl.dyndns.org>

Hey everyone,

	just to say that the old mailing list will be switched off next 
Saturday.  Everyone who still are on the old list and not on the new 
have already been notified, but I thought that everyone should know.  :-)

Joy,
`/anick

From yanick at babyl.dyndns.org  Tue Aug 12 19:58:42 2008
From: yanick at babyl.dyndns.org (Yanick Champoux)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:58:42 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Anyone in the group having a blog?
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	It has been revealed a few weeks ago that Dave has a blog.  I am 
wondering, is anyone else on the list keeping a techblog as well?

	Mine, if anyone's interested, can be found at 
http://babyl.dyndns.org/techblog (and is echo'ed at 
http://use.perl.org/~Yanick/journal).

Joy,
`/anick

From vallee at pythian.com  Wed Aug 13 06:33:09 2008
From: vallee at pythian.com (Paul Vallee)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:33:09 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Anyone in the group having a blog?
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Pythian blogs at http://www.pythian.com/blogs.
Mine is on there, as is John Scoles' (where he maked DBD::Oracle  
announcements).
Cheers,
Paul
On 12-Aug-08, at 10:58 PM, Yanick Champoux wrote:

>
> 	It has been revealed a few weeks ago that Dave has a blog.  I am  
> wondering, is anyone else on the list keeping a techblog as well?
>
> 	Mine, if anyone's interested, can be found at http://babyl.dyndns.org/techblog 
>  (and is echo'ed at http://use.perl.org/~Yanick/journal).
>
> Joy,
> `/anick
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From rhooper at toybox.ca  Wed Aug 13 07:43:33 2008
From: rhooper at toybox.ca (Roy Hooper)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:43:33 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Anyone in the group having a blog?
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On 12-Aug-08, at 10:58 PM, Yanick Champoux wrote:

>
> 	It has been revealed a few weeks ago that Dave has a blog.  I am  
> wondering, is anyone else on the list keeping a techblog as well?

My very out of date blog is at http://blog.royhooper.ca/


From msoulier at digitaltorque.ca  Wed Aug 13 23:35:37 2008
From: msoulier at digitaltorque.ca (Michael P. Soulier)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:35:37 -0700
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Anyone in the group having a blog?
In-Reply-To: <2B2C64C2-F0A3-438F-A5BC-D8673E5C1F58@toybox.ca>
References: <48A24DE2.80105@babyl.dyndns.org>
	<17B7CCD4-8FB8-470C-ABE0-A2DF094F67F1@pythian.com>
	<2B2C64C2-F0A3-438F-A5BC-D8673E5C1F58@toybox.ca>
Message-ID: <20080814063535.GA8567@piglet.digitaltorque.ca>

On 13/08/08 Roy Hooper said:

> My very out of date blog is at http://blog.royhooper.ca/

Mine is here http://digitaltorque.ca

with a rather eclectic selection of topics. 

Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier <msoulier at digitaltorque.ca>
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It
takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
direction." --Albert Einstein
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From yanick at babyl.dyndns.org  Tue Aug 19 19:14:39 2008
From: yanick at babyl.dyndns.org (Yanick Champoux)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:14:39 -0400
Subject: [Ottawa-pm] Anyone in the group having a blog?
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Paul Vallee wrote:
> Pythian blogs at http://www.pythian.com/blogs.
> Mine is on there, as is John Scoles' (where he maked DBD::Oracle 
> announcements).

	Excellent. Thanks to everyone who answered!  All blog rss feeds have 
been added to my Perl newsfeed.


	In related news, I finally updated the ottawa.pm.org page with the new 
mailing list information, and with a link for OS Bootcamp.  Talking of 
which, can we expect to see anyone from the list there (that is, beyond 
Mike and I)?


Cheers,
`/anick