From jay at jays.net  Tue Oct  2 12:18:35 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:18:35 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [omaha] PDF to Text parsing
In-Reply-To: <9AECCD8B-C8AF-4EA6-B163-900DD2BD5EC3@unomaha.edu>
References: <CA+VdTb854=jZ4Le9qqEpeQA4P=E0RNc1pZNTBeu5Xg4WeGCCCQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<9AECCD8B-C8AF-4EA6-B163-900DD2BD5EC3@unomaha.edu>
Message-ID: <03765B20-6FCF-4E5C-8FEF-41EAAF35B055@jays.net>

On Oct 2, 2012, at 11:03 AM, "Rob Townley" <rob.townley at gmail.com> wrote:
> The ReEnergizeProgram.org auditor said that a big slowdown is getting
> all the data from PDF based bills from MUD and OPPD into a spreadsheet
> / database.  Sounds like they email stuff, copy-n-paste alot, and then
> email on.
> 
> What perl/python/php modules would you recommend for parsing the text from PDF?


On Oct 2, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu> wrote:
> Send us one as an example this is really a trivial task

Ya, send us an example PDF. There are 475 PDF libraries on CPAN, but your mileage will vary and the only way to know for sure is to actually try... Here's all the hits, and the one I'd probably try first for this job:

   https://metacpan.org/search?q=PDF
   https://metacpan.org/module/PDF::OCR2

Good luck!  :)

j
Omaha Perl Mongers: http://omaha.pm.org



P.S.   PDF scraping is usually really gross. Government orgs often publish PDF archives as if those are data APIs, and they're really not. Poke MUD and OPPD to publish JSON or XML APIs / archives.





From sirloxelroy at gmail.com  Wed Oct  3 18:30:13 2012
From: sirloxelroy at gmail.com (Chris Brandstetter)
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:30:13 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [omaha] PDF to Text parsing (Jay Hannah)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1349290810.1792.omaha-pm@pm.org>
References: <mailman.9.1349290810.1792.omaha-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <506CE6A5.5020708@gmail.com>

I used "Image::OCR::Tesseract 'get_ocr' " and " HTML::TextToHTML " then
I did something like this

"
    $text = qx($ocrbin \"$fullpath\");
    $text =~ s/[^0-9A-Za-z\
\n\t\.\?\!\@\#\$\%\&\*\(\)\"\'\/\,\;\:\+\=\-]//gi;
    my $conv = new HTML::TextToHTML(
        default_link_dict=>'');
    $ocrdhtml = $conv->process_chunk($text);
    $contents = $text;
    $preview = $ocrdhtml;
"

Not the prettiest, but it worked to OCR and store the text and previews
of the documents in a database.


Chris Brandstetter

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>> The ReEnergizeProgram.org auditor said that a big slowdown is getting
>> all the data from PDF based bills from MUD and OPPD into a spreadsheet
>> / database.  Sounds like they email stuff, copy-n-paste alot, and then
>> email on.
>>
>> What perl/python/php modules would you recommend for parsing the text from PDF?
>
> On Oct 2, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu> wrote:
>> Send us one as an example this is really a trivial task
> Ya, send us an example PDF. There are 475 PDF libraries on CPAN, but your mileage will vary and the only way to know for sure is to actually try... Here's all the hits, and the one I'd probably try first for this job:
>
>    https://metacpan.org/search?q=PDF
>    https://metacpan.org/module/PDF::OCR2
>
> Good luck!  :)
>
> j
> Omaha Perl Mongers: http://omaha.pm.org
>
>
>
> P.S.   PDF scraping is usually really gross. Government orgs often publish PDF archives as if those are data APIs, and they're really not. Poke MUD and OPPD to publish JSON or XML APIs / archives.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
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> Omaha-pm mailing list
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From rob.townley at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 00:31:04 2012
From: rob.townley at gmail.com (Rob Townley)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 02:31:04 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [omaha] PDF to Text parsing (Jay Hannah)
In-Reply-To: <506CE6A5.5020708@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.9.1349290810.1792.omaha-pm@pm.org>
	<506CE6A5.5020708@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+VdTb8byvR=H8Yyo+Yxxk22V5Cofuq3BBZEtEtnkxxbv=F7_Q@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting.  i suppose your PDFs only contained images of text, but
not actual text, hence the need for OCR?  If so, i may use this for
something else.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Chris Brandstetter
<sirloxelroy at gmail.com> wrote:
> I used "Image::OCR::Tesseract 'get_ocr' " and " HTML::TextToHTML " then
> I did something like this
>
> "
>     $text = qx($ocrbin \"$fullpath\");
>     $text =~ s/[^0-9A-Za-z\
> \n\t\.\?\!\@\#\$\%\&\*\(\)\"\'\/\,\;\:\+\=\-]//gi;
>     my $conv = new HTML::TextToHTML(
>         default_link_dict=>'');
>     $ocrdhtml = $conv->process_chunk($text);
>     $contents = $text;
>     $preview = $ocrdhtml;
> "
>
> Not the prettiest, but it worked to OCR and store the text and previews
> of the documents in a database.
>
>
> Chris Brandstetter
>
> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
> Version: 3.1
> GCS/IT d+(-) s++:++ a C++++$ UBLISXC*++++$ P++++$ L+++$ E-- W+++ N+ o K-
> w-- O M++$ V PS- PE Y+ PGP++ t++ 5+++ X+ R- tv-- b+>+++ DI D+ G+ e+ h++
> r
> y?
> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
>
>
>>> The ReEnergizeProgram.org auditor said that a big slowdown is getting
>>> all the data from PDF based bills from MUD and OPPD into a spreadsheet
>>> / database.  Sounds like they email stuff, copy-n-paste alot, and then
>>> email on.
>>>
>>> What perl/python/php modules would you recommend for parsing the text from PDF?
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Burch Kealey <bkealey at unomaha.edu> wrote:
>>> Send us one as an example this is really a trivial task
>> Ya, send us an example PDF. There are 475 PDF libraries on CPAN, but your mileage will vary and the only way to know for sure is to actually try... Here's all the hits, and the one I'd probably try first for this job:
>>
>>    https://metacpan.org/search?q=PDF
>>    https://metacpan.org/module/PDF::OCR2
>>
>> Good luck!  :)
>>
>> j
>> Omaha Perl Mongers: http://omaha.pm.org
>>
>>
>>
>> P.S.   PDF scraping is usually really gross. Government orgs often publish PDF archives as if those are data APIs, and they're really not. Poke MUD and OPPD to publish JSON or XML APIs / archives.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Subject: Digest Footer
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha-pm mailing list
>> Omaha-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha-pm
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>> ****************************************
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From jay at jays.net  Thu Oct  4 02:29:53 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 04:29:53 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] PDF to Text parsing
In-Reply-To: <CA+VdTb8byvR=H8Yyo+Yxxk22V5Cofuq3BBZEtEtnkxxbv=F7_Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.9.1349290810.1792.omaha-pm@pm.org>
	<506CE6A5.5020708@gmail.com>
	<CA+VdTb8byvR=H8Yyo+Yxxk22V5Cofuq3BBZEtEtnkxxbv=F7_Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1212E3D2-DA43-496E-AB82-32774A158F0B@jays.net>

On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:31 AM, Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting.  i suppose your PDFs only contained images of text, but
> not actual text, hence the need for OCR?  If so, i may use this for
> something else.

PDF files often contain both: (1) Text with layout, placement, and font information. And (2) images. Those images may happen to have pixels in them which humans interpret as text. Those pixels can sometimes be OCRd to produce text.

PDF::OCR2 does both of these things for you. It can be used to "extract all text and all image ocr from pdf". 

Again, it all depends on the PDF file.   :)

I'm guessing Chris was dealing with a directory full of images. 

HTH,

j





From sirloxelroy at gmail.com  Thu Oct  4 18:24:52 2012
From: sirloxelroy at gmail.com (Chris Brandstetter)
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:24:52 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] PDF to Text parsing
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1349377211.26949.omaha-pm@pm.org>
References: <mailman.9.1349377211.26949.omaha-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <506E36E4.6070001@gmail.com>

All the ones I was dealing with were pdf labeled multi page tiff files
from a fax software.

Chris Brandstetter

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On 10/04/2012 02:00 PM, omaha-pm-request at pm.org wrote:
>
> PDF files often contain both: (1) Text with layout, placement, and font information. And (2) images. Those images may happen to have pixels in them which humans interpret as text. Those pixels can sometimes be OCRd to produce text.
>
> PDF::OCR2 does both of these things for you. It can be used to "extract all text and all image ocr from pdf". 
>
> Again, it all depends on the PDF file.   :)
>
> I'm guessing Chris was dealing with a directory full of images. 
>
> HTH,
>
> j
>


From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Mon Oct  8 19:33:03 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:33:03 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Meeting tomorrow 7pm - helicopters and geospatial data
	kung-fu
References: <7E7A0289-3573-423E-8785-E8B82230FA3E@iinteractive.com>
Message-ID: <37B75429-986E-4DD0-9BA2-A988C03E4BB3@iinteractive.com>

It's that time of month again! Woot!

Join us tomorrow night, 7pm, in PKI room 160!

 
http://odlug.org/
-----------------
Sam Flint
      Tk/Perl, Arduino helicopter programming

Shane Buscher
      Geospatial open source. Why is my neighborhood shown in Google Maps and Sarpy County GIS, but not in OpenStreetMap.org? [screenshot below] How did the data get there? How can I improve it? How can I use it for my own nefarious purposes? See some of the tech, ask an expert all your geospatial questions.


See you there!

Jay Hannah
402-598-7782



   Man, it's a bummer our new room forbids food, I'm dying to cheat my new diet with a huge stack of pizza ...  :/









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From harmonicnm7h at gmail.com  Mon Oct  8 19:58:15 2012
From: harmonicnm7h at gmail.com (Sam Flint)
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 21:58:15 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Meeting tomorrow 7pm - helicopters and geospatial
	data kung-fu
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No Helicopters!

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Jay Hannah <jay.hannah at iinteractive.com>wrote:

> It's that time of month again! Woot!
>
> Join us tomorrow night, 7pm, in PKI room 160!
>
>
> http://odlug.org/
> -----------------
> Sam Flint
>       Tk/Perl, Arduino helicopter programming
>
> Shane Buscher
>       Geospatial open source. Why is my neighborhood shown in Google Maps
> and Sarpy County GIS, but not in OpenStreetMap.org<http://openstreetmap.org/>? [screenshot
> below] How did the data get there? How can I improve it? How can I use it
> for my own nefarious purposes? See some of the tech, ask an expert all
> your geospatial questions.
>
>
> See you there!
>
> Jay Hannah
> 402-598-7782
>
>
>
>    Man, it's a bummer our new room forbids food, I'm dying to cheat my new
> diet with a huge stack of pizza ...  :/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha-pm mailing list
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> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha-pm
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-- 
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From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Tue Oct  9 07:46:42 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:46:42 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Have a fitbit? Join the Perl Mongers group!
Message-ID: <28546EA9-FD2E-457E-846B-1C2AADF9A28A@iinteractive.com>


http://www.fitbit.com/group/2287VH   :)

Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Project Lead / Programmer
http://www.iinteractive.com
Email: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com
AOL IM: deafferret
Mobile: 1.402.598.7782
Fax: 1.402.691.9496






From jay at jays.net  Tue Oct  9 11:51:33 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:51:33 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Parking pass for tonight's meeting
References: <CC99D58D.A93F%dkbastola@unomaha.edu>
Message-ID: <7CAA8008-38EE-4B69-8467-D57FDFB5906F@jays.net>

Please print one of whichever of these file formats is more convenient for you and leave in on your dash.

I'll bring a few extra copies just in case.

Thanks!

j
402-598-7782






  


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From robert.wood.busby at gmail.com  Tue Oct  9 20:55:47 2012
From: robert.wood.busby at gmail.com (Robert Busby)
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:55:47 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Parking pass for tonight's meeting
In-Reply-To: <7CAA8008-38EE-4B69-8467-D57FDFB5906F@jays.net>
References: <CC99D58D.A93F%dkbastola@unomaha.edu>
	<7CAA8008-38EE-4B69-8467-D57FDFB5906F@jays.net>
Message-ID: <CAOuAkyu+ohaS8oUypGxV8XeJc-w-FkxM3_HcCn3EGZ_e0_fi2A@mail.gmail.com>

Found out I already had an account, sciurolocutus.
On Oct 9, 2012 5:09 PM, "Jay Hannah" <jay at jays.net> wrote:

> Please print one of whichever of these file formats is more convenient for
> you and leave in on your dash.
>
> I'll bring a few extra copies just in case.
>
> Thanks!
>
> j
> 402-598-7782
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From jay at jays.net  Wed Oct 10 07:16:29 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:16:29 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Parking pass for tonight's meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAOuAkyu+ohaS8oUypGxV8XeJc-w-FkxM3_HcCn3EGZ_e0_fi2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CC99D58D.A93F%dkbastola@unomaha.edu>
	<7CAA8008-38EE-4B69-8467-D57FDFB5906F@jays.net>
	<CAOuAkyu+ohaS8oUypGxV8XeJc-w-FkxM3_HcCn3EGZ_e0_fi2A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201148B3-F1DC-4D88-9D61-C9D9F0E43C56@jays.net>

On Oct 9, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Robert Busby <robert.wood.busby at gmail.com> wrote:
> Found out I already had an account, sciurolocutus.

Thanks! I added you as a collab:

   https://github.com/jhannah/odlug

j




From jay at jays.net  Wed Oct 10 07:42:16 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:42:16 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] November meeting
In-Reply-To: <CADDa8YU4CeoKbFnVESWHXXg2Sr5v4iuH8nm29aO=-ZL5ZzcLTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7E7A0289-3573-423E-8785-E8B82230FA3E@iinteractive.com>
	<CADDa8YU4CeoKbFnVESWHXXg2Sr5v4iuH8nm29aO=-ZL5ZzcLTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <15C6C0C2-2A32-42F0-A970-63444B2823B5@jays.net>

On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Ryan Stille <ryan at stillnet.org> wrote:
> Great presentations tonight, thanks guys!
> 
> And thanks to Jay for procuring these speakers. :-)

Agreed! Woot! Thanks guys!   :)

Any volunteers / requests / suggestions for upcoming meetings? I'm trying to get @FullyCroisened to talk about Lua. He's the only guy currently on my people to pester list.   :)

j
http://odlug.org









From robert.wood.busby at gmail.com  Wed Oct 10 09:50:58 2012
From: robert.wood.busby at gmail.com (Robert Busby)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:50:58 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] November meeting
In-Reply-To: <15C6C0C2-2A32-42F0-A970-63444B2823B5@jays.net>
References: <7E7A0289-3573-423E-8785-E8B82230FA3E@iinteractive.com>
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	<15C6C0C2-2A32-42F0-A970-63444B2823B5@jays.net>
Message-ID: <CAOuAkyubGCOgdb9QCeoH_UxbHYHd2mti9F_nRdLDGvimA_rzzQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm really interested in graph visualization and FSM modeling as of late,
but I don't know if I'm ready to present anything.
I've been looking at
http://search.cpan.org/~rsavage/GraphViz2-2.05/lib/GraphViz2.pm since I was
already using perl and GraphViz, just using `dot $filename` to do the
actual processing.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:

> On Oct 9, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Ryan Stille <ryan at stillnet.org> wrote:
> > Great presentations tonight, thanks guys!
> >
> > And thanks to Jay for procuring these speakers. :-)
>
> Agreed! Woot! Thanks guys!   :)
>
> Any volunteers / requests / suggestions for upcoming meetings? I'm trying
> to get @FullyCroisened to talk about Lua. He's the only guy currently on my
> people to pester list.   :)
>
> j
> http://odlug.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Wed Oct 10 09:58:28 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:58:28 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Shane's presentation from last night
Message-ID: <350A6E1C-31C1-43B2-B67C-EB37B2515FB7@iinteractive.com>


Presented: StreetSmarts- Using OpenStreetMap to you advantage
   http://bit.ly/Rwo9IH

Follow Shane on Twitter:
   https://twitter.com/notifyshane/status/256032642896650241


Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Project Lead / Programmer
http://www.iinteractive.com
Email: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com
AOL IM: deafferret
Mobile: 1.402.598.7782
Fax: 1.402.691.9496






From jay at jays.net  Wed Oct 10 10:19:46 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:19:46 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Fwd: Survey about newcomer experience and citizenship
	behavior in the Perl community
References: <9609A8A8-C138-4F43-86BA-A240B5486392@jays.net>
Message-ID: <AC28FA75-61F5-42CD-8499-5DC3DAF2C12C@jays.net>

Interested?

j



Begin forwarded message:
> # ----------------------------------------
> Hi,
> 
> My name is Kevin Carillo and I am a PhD student at the School of Information Management of Victoria University of Wellington (New Zealand).
> 
> I am currently running a survey that aims at studying how the experience of a Perl community newcomer has an influence on this person's actions and project contributions in the community.
> 
> I would like to kindly request the leaders of the PerlMongers group to forward the survey invitation to their respective pm mailing lists. The more respondents we get, the more the data will help the overall Perl community. The dataset will be released under a CC license.
> 
> Karen Pauley, Nat Torkington, and Mark Keating have already been informed about the research project and they all have been supportive and helpful. The study has been already advertised in different Perl resources.
> 
> The survey targets contributors to Perl sub-projects endorsed by the Perl Foundation and who joined Perl within the last 2 years.
> 
> You can find a blog post about the research project on blogs.perl.org that can be found at:
> http://blogs.perl.org/users/kevin_carillo/2012/10/newcomer-experience-and-contributor-behavior-in-perl-and-other-foss-communities---survey.html
> 
> The direct link to the survey is:
> 
> https://limesurvey.sim.vuw.ac.nz/index.php?sid=89971&lang=en
> 
> This survey is anonymous, and no information is used to identify participants. The Human Ethics Committee of the School of Information Management has approved this research project.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Kevin Carillo
> School of Information Management
> Victoria University of Wellington
> PO Box 600, Wellington NEW ZEALAND
> (04) 463 5233 ext. 8679 | Room RH401
> kevin.carillo at sim.vuw.ac.nz
> http://kevincarillo.org/
> 
> 



From jay at jays.net  Wed Oct 10 10:35:43 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:35:43 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] November meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAOuAkyubGCOgdb9QCeoH_UxbHYHd2mti9F_nRdLDGvimA_rzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7E7A0289-3573-423E-8785-E8B82230FA3E@iinteractive.com>
	<CADDa8YU4CeoKbFnVESWHXXg2Sr5v4iuH8nm29aO=-ZL5ZzcLTA@mail.gmail.com>
	<15C6C0C2-2A32-42F0-A970-63444B2823B5@jays.net>
	<CAOuAkyubGCOgdb9QCeoH_UxbHYHd2mti9F_nRdLDGvimA_rzzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A5DDC905-0A59-4073-8EFF-18DED0F80D64@jays.net>

On Oct 10, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Robert Busby <robert.wood.busby at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm really interested in graph visualization and FSM modeling as of late, but I don't know if I'm ready to present anything.

The presentations are very casual. Basically if you're excited in or interested in something you plug your laptop into the projector and click around and solicit some group discussion.  :)

> I've been looking at http://search.cpan.org/~rsavage/GraphViz2-2.05/lib/GraphViz2.pm since I was already using perl and GraphViz, just using `dot $filename` to do the actual processing.

I've used GraphViz a few times over the years, mostly in bioinformatics. If you ever want any help let me know.  :)

j




From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Wed Oct 10 17:44:33 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:44:33 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] November 13 meeting
Message-ID: <C80398B2-325C-45C4-BECF-37D16B0B7D5B@iinteractive.com>


http://odlug.org/

Upcoming presentations:

Nathanial Ryan
      Lua! We join forces with the Omaha Corona SDK Meetup to learn all about this "powerful, fast, lightweight, embeddable scripting language."


Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Project Lead / Programmer
http://www.iinteractive.com
Email: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com
AOL IM: deafferret
Mobile: 1.402.598.7782
Fax: 1.402.691.9496






From choman at gmail.com  Mon Oct 15 11:02:29 2012
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:02:29 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] OT: web gurus
Message-ID: <CA+Xrk5hmLipi3rkvy2wJTh_Kq8YBnvJcYcvX2_pSBJL8RjU6Nw@mail.gmail.com>

all

Anyone heard of http://www.yodle.com/

looking for feedback, alternatives, comments,
are they worth it?


please contact me offline



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From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Mon Oct 22 12:19:02 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:19:02 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] XML::Twig error handling
Message-ID: <245A7469-2DB0-4316-8037-A2F359A7239E@iinteractive.com>

Sean / Justin,

My XML::Twig skills have atrophied. 

How are you trapping when nodes may or may not exist?

Try::Tiny and stuff like this?

      my $connection; 
      try { $connection = $s->first_child('connection')->text; };

Or a ton of && statements? or...?

Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Project Lead / Programmer
http://www.iinteractive.com
Email: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com
AOL IM: deafferret
Mobile: 1.402.598.7782
Fax: 1.402.691.9496






From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Mon Oct 22 12:34:44 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:34:44 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] XML::Twig error handling
In-Reply-To: <0E12EF2765A91F4EA21C87720165CF78765050C180@L3EXCHMB.omnihotels.net>
References: <245A7469-2DB0-4316-8037-A2F359A7239E@iinteractive.com>
	<0E12EF2765A91F4EA21C87720165CF78765050C180@L3EXCHMB.omnihotels.net>
Message-ID: <12603D8D-32DC-464A-B2F9-4008DF2711F5@iinteractive.com>

On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Justin Esbenshade <jesbenshade at omnihotels.com> wrote:
> Lot's of if's.
> 
>   my ($PN) = $PR->first_child('Customer')->first_child('PersonName');
>   if ($PN) {
>      $Res{firstName} = $PN->first_child('c:firstName')->text if ( $PN->first_child('c:firstName') );
>      $Res{lastName} = $PN->first_child('c:lastName')->text if ( $PN->first_child('c:lastName') );
>   }
> 
>   my ($A) = $PR->first_child('Addresses');
>   my ($NA) = $A->first_child('NameAddress') if ($A);
>   if ($NA) {

Thanks. I think I'm liking Try::Tiny better...?

   my ($sql, $connection, $table);
   try { $sql =        $s->first_child('sql')->text; };
   try { $connection = $s->first_child('connection')->text; };
   try { $table =      $s->first_child('table')->text; };

Ponder,

j




From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Mon Oct 22 12:56:11 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:56:11 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] XML::Twig error handling
In-Reply-To: <0E12EF2765A91F4EA21C87720165CF78765050C197@L3EXCHMB.omnihotels.net>
References: <245A7469-2DB0-4316-8037-A2F359A7239E@iinteractive.com>
	<0E12EF2765A91F4EA21C87720165CF78765050C180@L3EXCHMB.omnihotels.net>
	<12603D8D-32DC-464A-B2F9-4008DF2711F5@iinteractive.com>
	<0E12EF2765A91F4EA21C87720165CF78765050C197@L3EXCHMB.omnihotels.net>
Message-ID: <FA359D20-2122-4A50-8FA3-E3D007B78F03@iinteractive.com>

On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Justin Esbenshade <jesbenshade at omnihotels.com> wrote:
> So what happens after all the try's?  Do you still have to say "if ($table)"?

  my ($sql);
  try { $sql =        $s->first_child('sql')->text; };

Ya, $sql is just undef if anything went wrong. So you can if ($sql) if you want. Or you could catch {} and do something...

j




From jay at jays.net  Wed Oct 24 10:47:03 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:47:03 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [olug] Apache
In-Reply-To: <CAO630UmSc60srgbD_ZoJm-Gx=AFZdzHDcnQzaW6OzcixgHEhrg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL-xtG7wGPPF1YQEP0o6KzCj06AqBLTdQpThW2uQGEWp_LF4sA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <DD38452B-E2B9-4613-A9F2-F66B1D018DB9@jays.net>

On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> First of all you're still using perl...

"Still?" Perl rocks. Linux rocks. Together, they are unstoppable.  :)

>    Options +ExecCGI
>    AddHandler cgi-script .cgi

This works, but should only be used in low volume / trivial deployments where you're not worried about performance. 

There are lots of high performance ways to deploy Perl web stacks. Here are a few, from the Catalyst docs (Catalyst is one popular Modern Perl web stack):

   https://metacpan.org/module/Catalyst::Manual::Deployment

Hope that helps,

j
Omaha Perl Mongers:  http://omaha.pm.org







From jay at jays.net  Wed Oct 24 10:50:46 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:50:46 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Fwd:  XML::Twig error handling
References: <CAHLJM-Esyi+zMqh+D_PhjUD_GZtU1vgY2TnWyAKKEbzr+VzUDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0BFE2018-DDE0-43F1-9470-3B8DB40AA38C@jays.net>

Ah, yes! thanks! 

Begin forwarded message:
> From: Patrick Baker <pbaker0804 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Omaha.pm] XML::Twig error handling
> Date: October 24, 2012 12:26:09 PM CDT
> To: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> 
> I use try { } catch { }; now, it seems cleaner to me.
> 
>    try {
>       $twig->parse($request);
>       $self->request($twig);
>       my ($Body) = $twig->get_xpath("${soap_base}:Body");
>       my ($request) = $Body->first_child('GroupPricing');
>       $self->type($request->tag);
>    } catch {
>            $self->set_SOAP_Fault( faultstring => "Invalid message.",
>                              detail      => '<![CDATA[' . $_ . "\n" . $request . ']]>' );
>   }

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From jaybocc2 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 24 10:56:08 2012
From: jaybocc2 at gmail.com (Jay Bendon)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:56:08 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [olug] Apache
In-Reply-To: <DD38452B-E2B9-4613-A9F2-F66B1D018DB9@jays.net>
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>
> This works, but should only be used in low volume / trivial deployments
> where you're not worried about performance.
>
> There are lots of high performance ways to deploy Perl web stacks. Here
> are a few, from the Catalyst docs (Catalyst is one popular Modern Perl web
> stack):
>
>    https://metacpan.org/module/Catalyst::Manual::Deployment


i figured as much but i prefer Python so my scope with perl is "does it
work? OK" :)

I think i ended up not going with fast_cgi because the person developing
the app wasn't even utilizing FCGI and thus i didn't want the module
loaded. </derail>

--Jay


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:

> On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > First of all you're still using perl...
>
> "Still?" Perl rocks. Linux rocks. Together, they are unstoppable.  :)
>
> >    Options +ExecCGI
> >    AddHandler cgi-script .cgi
>
> This works, but should only be used in low volume / trivial deployments
> where you're not worried about performance.
>
> There are lots of high performance ways to deploy Perl web stacks. Here
> are a few, from the Catalyst docs (Catalyst is one popular Modern Perl web
> stack):
>
>    https://metacpan.org/module/Catalyst::Manual::Deployment
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> j
> Omaha Perl Mongers:  http://omaha.pm.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> OLUG mailing list
> OLUG at olug.org
> https://lists.olug.org/mailman/listinfo/olug
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From jay at jays.net  Wed Oct 24 11:23:46 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:23:46 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [olug] Apache
In-Reply-To: <CAO630Uk+szef--6A7z+28Tne-zFKET0gWgsZE6q5zbnWY=UXng@mail.gmail.com>
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On Oct 24, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> i figured as much but i prefer Python so my scope with perl is "does it work? OK" :)

:)

> I think i ended up not going with fast_cgi because the person developing the app wasn't even utilizing FCGI and thus i didn't want the module loaded. </derail>

Ya, the beauty of using a modern stack is that the developer doesn't have to know or care about deployment.

In the case of Catalyst, as a coder I write my web app using the built-in lightweight development "server" and deployment is someone else's problem. The deployer can choose whatever web server(s) s/he is comfortable with, Cool this week, already Popular here, Corporate Approved, or whatever. :)

Another example is using PSGI/Plack directly, if you dislike scaffolding. http://plackperl.org/

Or Dancer. https://metacpan.org/module/Dancer::Cookbook#Your-first-Dancer-web-app

"There's more than one way to do it."

:)

j





From brian at etcproject.com  Wed Oct 24 15:30:00 2012
From: brian at etcproject.com (Brian Edwards)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:30:00 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [olug] Apache
In-Reply-To: <50975ACF-F3B7-4DB4-8DE0-F8EC49EEB8C1@jays.net>
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	<50975ACF-F3B7-4DB4-8DE0-F8EC49EEB8C1@jays.net>
Message-ID: <50886BE8.1050608@etcproject.com>

+1 Dancer/Plackup/Starman

Dutch
# still using perl ;)


On 10/24/2012 01:23 PM, Jay Hannah wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Jay Bendon <jaybocc2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> i figured as much but i prefer Python so my scope with perl is "does it work? OK" :)
>
> :)
>
>> I think i ended up not going with fast_cgi because the person developing the app wasn't even utilizing FCGI and thus i didn't want the module loaded. </derail>
>
> Ya, the beauty of using a modern stack is that the developer doesn't have to know or care about deployment.
>
> In the case of Catalyst, as a coder I write my web app using the built-in lightweight development "server" and deployment is someone else's problem. The deployer can choose whatever web server(s) s/he is comfortable with, Cool this week, already Popular here, Corporate Approved, or whatever. :)
>
> Another example is using PSGI/Plack directly, if you dislike scaffolding. http://plackperl.org/
>
> Or Dancer. https://metacpan.org/module/Dancer::Cookbook#Your-first-Dancer-web-app
>
> "There's more than one way to do it."
>
> :)
>
> j
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha-pm mailing list
> Omaha-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha-pm
>

-- 
Brian Edwards
Edwards Technology Consulting, Inc. :: http://etcproject.com
brian at etcproject.com



From jay at jays.net  Thu Oct 25 11:53:39 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:53:39 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [olug] Apache
In-Reply-To: <50975ACF-F3B7-4DB4-8DE0-F8EC49EEB8C1@jays.net>
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Message-ID: <868A47BC-D222-4D83-B370-3BAE7EDC33E0@jays.net>

On Oct 24, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:
> Or Dancer. https://metacpan.org/module/Dancer::Cookbook#Your-first-Dancer-web-app

Or wallflower for "extreme caching."  ROFL

   https://metacpan.org/module/wallflower

Just discovered we use this one at $work[0] too.  :)

   http://iinteractive.github.com/ii-presentations/
   https://github.com/iinteractive/ii-presentations/tree/gh-pages

j






From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Fri Oct 26 09:13:35 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:13:35 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] 2013 Midwest Perl/Moose training?
References: <05BC2844-745D-46CD-A610-3AAF97054DE4@iinteractive.com>
Message-ID: <C1ABDC13-BADD-4091-8469-5C82B2762472@iinteractive.com>

[Full disclosure: In addition to being the Omaha.pm group leader for 10 years now, I am also an Infinity Interactive employee nowadays.]

Hello,

Infinity Interactive (the Moose cabal, among other things) is putting together an east coast training tour for 2013. One day, intensive hands-on training on Modern Perl, Moose, etc, with the guys who wrote the actual code.

I'm bummed out that the current plan is east coast big city only. I'd love to see the tour also come to the midwest!

Do you or your company have a Perl training budget for 2013? If we can get II folks sponsored in your city then I believe they also do low cost (free?) presentations to the local Perl Monger group.

I'd love to get these guys out here to the midwest, especially for folks that don't make it out to YAPC and other Perl events. 

(BTW, if you're not familiar with Infinity, our site at http://iinteractive.github.com/ summarizes a lot of the Open Source/Free Software work we've done and our other community contributions.)

Thanks for your time,

Jay Hannah
Omaha.pm
402-598-7782
http://iinteractive.github.com/