From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Tue Dec 11 08:22:10 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:22:10 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] No Dec, Jan meetings (right?)
Message-ID: <C422D015-B67F-439E-A50A-91ED4DB9042B@iinteractive.com>

Hi!

(1) I completely forgot about out meeting tonight. So unless anyone's itching to present something or meet up for dinner/drinks/whatever, tonight's meeting is cancelled.

(2) I'm out of country January 8th, so unless someone volunteers to organize something we'll skip that one too. 

Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Project Lead / Programmer
http://www.iinteractive.com
Email: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com
AOL IM: deafferret
Mobile: 1.402.598.7782
Fax: 1.402.691.9496






From jay at jays.net  Wed Dec 19 13:45:53 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:45:53 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odlug] Join Beer && Coders at Beercade - Wednesday
	12/19!
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On Dec 19, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Andy Peters <mr.andy.peters at gmail.com> wrote:
> The party has been postponed to next month

I'm going anyway. Because I'm an idiot.   :)

https://twitter.com/deafferret/status/281513910618685441

Among the down sides, most of the parking in Benson will be closed for plowing...

   Beercade
   6102 Maple St

j





From jay at jays.net  Thu Dec 20 12:46:51 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:46:51 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] JetBrains 75% off (IntelliJ for Groovy) - 14 more hours
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On Dec 20, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Timothy Goshinski <tgoshinski at gmail.com> wrote:
> Their other tools are discounted as well, say IntelliJ IDEA if you're a
> Java/Android developer.


Ya! I just picked up IntelliJ at 75% off for sexier learning of Groovy.  :)

   http://www.jetbrains.com/specials/index.jsp

j




From jay at jays.net  Fri Dec 21 11:17:54 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:17:54 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odlug] Teaching a Friend
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On Dec 19, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Sam Flint <harmonicnm7h at gmail.com> wrote:
> I will be embarking on the process of teaching a friend to program, and I was wondering what language you all suggested.  I'm leaning towards perl, but would consider other languages, including CLISP.

What is your friend motivated to learn how to program? Web sites? Games? Bioinformatics? Databases? iOS apps? Pick tools that best enable him/her to chase their bliss.  :)

The worst tools can't stop the deeply motivated. The best tools can't fix apathy.

> On a sidenote, would any of you be interested in a ham radio presentation, i might be able to talk my dad into something.

Are they programmable? We tend to be software nerds. Omaha Linux User Group and/or Omaha Maker Group are more hardware oriented.  

Just my $0.02,

j





From jay at jays.net  Fri Dec 21 11:32:12 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:32:12 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odlug] Teaching a Friend
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On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Scott Hickey <jscotthickey at gmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't the answer to all of those Perl? :)

Oh dear. So many ways to answer this. Mostly jokes.  :)   Pick your poison:

(1) Yes, Perl is always the answer. All questions are rhetorical. 

(2) Yes, when you ask ME, Perl is always the answer. I'd agree with $you, but then we'd both be wrong. 

(3) IntelliJ + Groovy made me swoon at Code Retreat Omaha, so I'm playing with that a little in case I'm ever trapped in a land of Java. #KnockOnWood

(4) Perl is especially awesome for iPad and Google App Engine development.</sarcasm>

:)

j





From evaddnomaid at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 11:40:16 2012
From: evaddnomaid at gmail.com (Dave Burchell)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:40:16 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odlug] Teaching a Friend
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If teaching coding for its own sake, I'd vote Ruby or Go.  OTOH, I don't
know either of those well enough to be a whiz-bang teacher of them, whereas
Perl is easy(?).

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:

> On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Scott Hickey <jscotthickey at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Isn't the answer to all of those Perl? :)
>
> Oh dear. So many ways to answer this. Mostly jokes.  :)   Pick your poison:
>
> (1) Yes, Perl is always the answer. All questions are rhetorical.
>
> (2) Yes, when you ask ME, Perl is always the answer. I'd agree with $you,
> but then we'd both be wrong.
>
> (3) IntelliJ + Groovy made me swoon at Code Retreat Omaha, so I'm playing
> with that a little in case I'm ever trapped in a land of Java. #KnockOnWood
>
> (4) Perl is especially awesome for iPad and Google App Engine
> development.</sarcasm>
>
> :)
>
> j
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha-pm mailing list
> Omaha-pm at pm.org
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From mario at ruby-im.net  Fri Dec 21 19:03:31 2012
From: mario at ruby-im.net (Mario Steele)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:03:31 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odlug] Teaching a Friend
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Ruby its simple and easy and has many good libraries for it to develop web
based apps, as well as teach object oriented programming.  It also has
decent and mature gui libraries, with Gtk and Qt as well as winforms.
There is also jRuby to get into java landscape, so there are many pluses
with ruby, but if you don't know much ruby, then it may not be the best to
teach.
On Dec 21, 2012 2:40 PM, "Dave Burchell" <evaddnomaid at gmail.com> wrote:

> If teaching coding for its own sake, I'd vote Ruby or Go.  OTOH, I don't
> know either of those well enough to be a whiz-bang teacher of them, whereas
> Perl is easy(?).
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Scott Hickey <jscotthickey at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Isn't the answer to all of those Perl? :)
>>
>> Oh dear. So many ways to answer this. Mostly jokes.  :)   Pick your
>> poison:
>>
>> (1) Yes, Perl is always the answer. All questions are rhetorical.
>>
>> (2) Yes, when you ask ME, Perl is always the answer. I'd agree with $you,
>> but then we'd both be wrong.
>>
>> (3) IntelliJ + Groovy made me swoon at Code Retreat Omaha, so I'm playing
>> with that a little in case I'm ever trapped in a land of Java. #KnockOnWood
>>
>> (4) Perl is especially awesome for iPad and Google App Engine
>> development.</sarcasm>
>>
>> :)
>>
>> j
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha-pm mailing list
>> Omaha-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha-pm
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dave Burchell
>
>
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