From jay at jays.net  Thu Apr  1 11:27:39 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:27:39 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Do you ~~ ?
Message-ID: <9A7E3A9A-2A14-419B-B7FF-414CC2F1C85B@jays.net>

Wow. smartmatch. 

use 5.10.0;
if ($a ~~ $b) { 
  
http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Smart-matching-in-detail

Anyone use this beast?

j



From tedkat at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 11:52:44 2010
From: tedkat at gmail.com (Theodore Katseres)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:52:44 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Do you ~~ ?
In-Reply-To: <9A7E3A9A-2A14-419B-B7FF-414CC2F1C85B@jays.net>
References: <9A7E3A9A-2A14-419B-B7FF-414CC2F1C85B@jays.net>
Message-ID: <w2sb037451c1004011152n8b6344d2v91e27659f80a3bbc@mail.gmail.com>

2010/4/1 Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>

> Wow. smartmatch.
>
> use 5.10.0;
> if ($a ~~ $b) {
>
> http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Smart-matching-in-detail
>
> Anyone use this beast?
>

I use implicit smart matching with the  when statement the most.

eg.

given ( $a ) {
    when ( $b ) { dosomething(); }
    default { dosomethingelse(); }
}

-- 
Ted Katseres
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From travis at travisbsd.org  Thu Apr  1 16:37:12 2010
From: travis at travisbsd.org (Travis McArthur)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:37:12 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Do you ~~ ?
In-Reply-To: <w2sb037451c1004011152n8b6344d2v91e27659f80a3bbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9A7E3A9A-2A14-419B-B7FF-414CC2F1C85B@jays.net>
	<w2sb037451c1004011152n8b6344d2v91e27659f80a3bbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DF137904-070D-470C-92E6-72D7486619C2@travisbsd.org>

Wasn't aware of this except in the "given/when" example shown.  Very nice!

Also, I thought given/when is in Perl 6 only? Did I miss something?  Admittedly I haven't had as much time to mess with hacking Perl lately!

Best Regards,
Travis

On Apr 1, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Theodore Katseres wrote:

> 2010/4/1 Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
> Wow. smartmatch.
> 
> use 5.10.0;
> if ($a ~~ $b) {
> 
> http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Smart-matching-in-detail
> 
> Anyone use this beast?
> 
> I use implicit smart matching with the  when statement the most.
> 
> eg.
> 
> given ( $a ) { 
>     when ( $b ) { dosomething(); }
>     default { dosomethingelse(); }
> }
> 
> -- 
> Ted Katseres
>      ||=O=||
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha-pm mailing list
> Omaha-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha-pm

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From andy at petdance.com  Thu Apr  1 17:32:10 2010
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:32:10 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Do you ~~ ?
In-Reply-To: <DF137904-070D-470C-92E6-72D7486619C2@travisbsd.org>
References: <9A7E3A9A-2A14-419B-B7FF-414CC2F1C85B@jays.net>
	<w2sb037451c1004011152n8b6344d2v91e27659f80a3bbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<DF137904-070D-470C-92E6-72D7486619C2@travisbsd.org>
Message-ID: <951353D2-891A-4053-83EC-4500AFC8BD69@petdance.com>


On Apr 1, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Travis McArthur wrote:

> Wasn't aware of this except in the "given/when" example shown.  Very nice!
> 
> Also, I thought given/when is in Perl 6 only? Did I miss something?  Admittedly I haven't had as much time to mess with hacking Perl lately!
> 

It's in Perl 5.10.

http://szabgab.com/blog/2007/12/1198487688.html

http://perlbuzz.com/2007/12/perl-510-now-available.html

xoa

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.theworkinggeek.com => AIM:petdance







From sterling at hanenkamp.com  Thu Apr  1 18:42:38 2010
From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:42:38 -0600
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Do you ~~ ?
In-Reply-To: <951353D2-891A-4053-83EC-4500AFC8BD69@petdance.com>
References: <9A7E3A9A-2A14-419B-B7FF-414CC2F1C85B@jays.net>
	<w2sb037451c1004011152n8b6344d2v91e27659f80a3bbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<DF137904-070D-470C-92E6-72D7486619C2@travisbsd.org>
	<951353D2-891A-4053-83EC-4500AFC8BD69@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <i2hc185b40e1004011842u1c7db4bdl78bbf2d15c280834@mail.gmail.com>

Perl 5.12 (currently at RC2) als adds the yada-yada operator. So you can
write.

sub foo { ... }

Instead of:

sub foo { die 'not yet implemented' }

--
Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp
sterling at hanenkamp.com
785.370.4454

Sent from my phone.

On Apr 1, 2010 7:32 PM, "Andy Lester" <andy at petdance.com> wrote:

On Apr 1, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Travis McArthur wrote: > Wasn't aware of this
except in the "given/whe...
It's in Perl 5.10.

http://szabgab.com/blog/2007/12/1198487688.html

http://perlbuzz.com/2007/12/perl-510-now-available.html

xoa

--
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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Fri Apr  2 10:54:15 2010
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:54:15 -0700
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Next meeting: Randal Schwartz! 7pm April 13 2010
In-Reply-To: <9C524357-D222-4EF1-8F40-0BEF071E17A5@jays.net> (Jay Hannah's
	message of "Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:26:43 -0500")
References: <9C524357-D222-4EF1-8F40-0BEF071E17A5@jays.net>
Message-ID: <86r5mxu4e0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Jay" == Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> writes:

Jay> The famous Randal "merlyn" Schwartz will be presenting at our next
Jay> meeting. But what topic? Randal has graciously volunteered to
Jay> present any of 16 topics. Vote now!

Are we any closer to nailing a topic?


-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn at stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

From jay at jays.net  Fri Apr  2 16:16:18 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 18:16:18 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Next meeting: Randal Schwartz! 7pm April 13 2010
In-Reply-To: <86r5mxu4e0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>
References: <9C524357-D222-4EF1-8F40-0BEF071E17A5@jays.net>
	<86r5mxu4e0.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>
Message-ID: <9727C1FD-4DB5-4A41-A135-D50643813B0B@jays.net>

On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> Are we any closer to nailing a topic?

12 people have taken the survey so far. Here's the counts per checkbox:

3 Any of the above is fine with me. I'll be there!
4 Code Review Basic Principles (45 minutes)
1 FLOSS Weekly
1 Intro to Perl Template Toolkit (90 minutes)
1 Introduction to CGI::Prototype (60 minutes)
3 Introduction to GIT: The File Collection Tracking Tool (90 minutes)
1 Introduction to Perl Objects (90 minutes)
5 Learning Perl 6 (60 minutes)
5 Perl Best Practices (45 minutes)
1 Perl Inside Out Objects (45 minutes)
1 Perl-TK for graphic interfaces (60 minutes)
4 Teaching "Learning Perl": how to give better presentations (45 minutes)
4 Test Web Applications with Perl (90 minutes)
3 Writing about Perl: how to get a book deal in two years (45 minutes)
1 You had me at HELO: Spam Fighting (45 minutes)
2 mod_perl Basics (90 minutes)

Andy: Are you coming this year? If so I'll make sure I bring Valentino's.  :)

j

Take the survey:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dGpsdW5vMXhmX2FwMlNtZ2lnblo5cHc6MA

Meeting info:
http://jays.net/wiki/Omaha_Dynamic_Language_Users_Group



From jay at jays.net  Sat Apr  3 08:59:08 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 10:59:08 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Gource: Programmers as action heroes
Message-ID: <9B73E64E-8BA3-4CE2-A0DE-7F330236FA31@jays.net>

http://headrattle.blogspot.com/2010/04/gource-programmers-as-action-heroes.html

j



From jay at jays.net  Mon Apr  5 06:48:57 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:48:57 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] UG News: Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention
	(OSCON)
References: <1270162844.6730.0.038366@post.oreilly.com>
Message-ID: <551718B2-C2EF-468D-8084-34168D10058F@jays.net>


20% off OSCON. I know 3 of us have attended (Sean Baker, Andy Lester, myself). Has anyone else been out there?

It's a very cool conference to attend a couple times. I switched to YAPC (http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2010/) because it's cheaper, less formal, and all the Perl content seems to be the same. But OSCON itself has lots on non-Perl content. 

j




Begin forwarded message:
> From: Marsee Henon <marsee at oreilly.com>
> Date: April 1, 2010 6:00:44 PM CDT
> To: jay at jays.net
> Subject: UG News: Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)
> 
> If you would like to view this information in your browser, click here.
> 
> 
> Forward this announcement
> Hi,
> 
> OSCON Registration is open. Here's a discount you can pass along to your members through your mailing list or at your meetings:
> 
> OSCON happens July 19-23, 2010 in Portland, OR
> 
> Use code "os10usrg" when you register, and receive 20% off the registration price.
> 
> To register for the conference, go to http://oreil.ly/osconug2010
> 
> 
> At OSCON, you'll participate in hundreds of sessions covering open source languages and platforms, practical tutorials that go deep into technical skill and best practices, inspirational keynote presentations, an Expo Hall featuring dozens of the latest projects and products, fun networking events and activities, and the best "hallway track" around.
> 
> Explore the benefits and challenges of building scalable applications for the cloud
> Use open source to target Android, iPhone and other mobile platforms
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> Learn how to foster contribution and adoption of your open source projects
> Follow OSCON on your favorite social networking sites:
> 
> Facebook
> 
> Twitter (or look for #OSCON)
> 
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> 
> Hope to see you there,
> 
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> 
> 
> You are receiving this email because you are a User Group contact with O'Reilly Media. Forward this announcement. If you would like to stop receiving these newsletters or announcements from O'Reilly, send an email to marsee at oreilly.com. 
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From jay at jays.net  Mon Apr 12 19:46:43 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:46:43 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Next meeting: Randal Schwartz! 7pm April 13 2010
In-Reply-To: <j2j6cb6eebc1004121935n7fa3d107q63feb35189dbde30@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9C524357-D222-4EF1-8F40-0BEF071E17A5@jays.net>
	<j2j6cb6eebc1004121935n7fa3d107q63feb35189dbde30@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8B84A9D7-34DE-4049-871D-1CFC22517F3B@jays.net>

On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Robert A. Fulkerson wrote:
> I assume we're still on for Randal's talk on Tuesday night?  Haven't heard much since the announcement, but I want to make sure I can re-announce it in my class tomorrow if it's going forward.  Do we know what the topic will be?

Yup, we're still on. 

   http://jays.net/wiki/Odlug

Randal: We got 22 votes, below. Have you settled on a presentation?

Hmm... I wonder how much pizza I should be bringing...

Thanks,

j



5 Any of the above is fine with me. I'll be there!
7 Code Review Basic Principles (45 minutes)
1 FLOSS Weekly
2 Intro to Perl Template Toolkit (90 minutes)
1 Introduction to CGI::Prototype (60 minutes)
2 Introduction to Class::Prototyped (30 minutes)
5 Introduction to GIT: The File Collection Tracking Tool (90 minutes)
3 Introduction to Perl Objects (90 minutes)
6 Learning Perl 6 (60 minutes)
7 Perl Best Practices (45 minutes)
2 Perl Inside Out Objects (45 minutes)
4 Perl-TK for graphic interfaces (60 minutes)
5 Teaching "Learning Perl": how to give better presentations (45 minutes)
7 Test Web Applications with Perl (90 minutes)
3 Writing about Perl: how to get a book deal in two years (45 minutes)
3 You had me at HELO: Spam Fighting (45 minutes)
3 mod_perl Basics (90 minutes)


From jay at jays.net  Mon Apr 12 20:59:37 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:59:37 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] 5.12.0 released!(?)
Message-ID: <EC712A19-0F85-4C20-8F3A-7BD8DC09C0BC@jays.net>

http://search.cpan.org/~jesse/perl-5.12.0/

Wow. I don't see any announcements anywhere... But there it is, on CPAN.

Or am I confused?

j



From jay at jays.net  Tue Apr 13 06:15:28 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:15:28 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Tonight,
	7pm! "Forget the ORM! Persistent Data with non-traditional
	databases."
Message-ID: <BD68B9A9-668C-46EB-8441-30EC6A322748@jays.net>


http://jays.net/wiki/Omaha_Dynamic_Language_Users_Group

  "Forget the ORM! Persistent Data with non-traditional databases." 

What an Object-Relational Mapper is, why it sucks, and a couple dozen alternatives (most open source, many with Perl bindings).

Didn't get around to paying $400 to go to Infotec? This is the same presentation, only free + free food.  :)

j



From dan at linder.org  Tue Apr 13 07:30:41 2010
From: dan at linder.org (Dan Linder)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:30:41 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] 5.12.0 released!(?)
In-Reply-To: <EC712A19-0F85-4C20-8F3A-7BD8DC09C0BC@jays.net>
References: <EC712A19-0F85-4C20-8F3A-7BD8DC09C0BC@jays.net>
Message-ID: <y2m3e2be51004130730ma351ea3cx3f4caa71c4197491@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 22:59, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:

> http://search.cpan.org/~jesse/perl-5.12.0/<http://search.cpan.org/%7Ejesse/perl-5.12.0/>
>
> Wow. I don't see any announcements anywhere... But there it is, on CPAN.
>

Nope, I saw it too this morning:

   http://lwn.net/Articles/383203/

And check out the contributors list...  (hint: search for "hannah")

Dan

-- 
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   (Who can watch the watchmen?)
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From TELarson at west.com  Tue Apr 13 09:44:19 2010
From: TELarson at west.com (Larson, Timothy E.)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:44:19 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Tonight, 7pm! "Forget the ORM! Persistent Data with
 non-traditional	databases."
In-Reply-To: <BD68B9A9-668C-46EB-8441-30EC6A322748@jays.net>
References: <BD68B9A9-668C-46EB-8441-30EC6A322748@jays.net>
Message-ID: <226316B3E1F749498E28ACA66321D5BA027C69805A@oma00cexmbx03.corp.westworlds.com>

> http://jays.net/wiki/Omaha_Dynamic_Language_Users_Group
> 
>   "Forget the ORM! Persistent Data with non-traditional databases."
> 
> What an Object-Relational Mapper is, why it sucks, and a couple
> dozen alternatives (most open source, many with Perl bindings).
> 
> Didn't get around to paying $400 to go to Infotec? This is the same
> presentation, only free + free food.  :)

Man, sounds like a good one!

Tim
-- 
Tim Larson
App Admin, Intercall Production Services


From jhannah at omnihotels.com  Tue Apr 13 10:16:06 2010
From: jhannah at omnihotels.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:16:06 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Kilts at YAPC
Message-ID: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034726AB@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>

LOL...

 

http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2010/wiki?node=Utilikilts

 

j

the always bifurcated clan

 

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From jay at jays.net  Thu Apr 15 14:25:24 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:25:24 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Omaha: Thanks again!
Message-ID: <FA469D67-F519-4960-AE94-5BE1D5DE9744@jays.net>

Thanks again, Randal, for presenting.  :) 

If you want to email me your slides I'll add them to our meeting history:

   http://jays.net/wiki/Meeting_history

Glad to see you made it home safe (Twitter)! We hope you can come back again next year.

See you at YAPC::NA June 21? There are rumors of a possible car pool with the Kansas City Perl Mongers.  :)

All the best,

j



http://twitter.com/merlyn
http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2010/


From dan at linder.org  Thu Apr 15 14:48:01 2010
From: dan at linder.org (Dan Linder)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:48:01 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Omaha: Thanks again!
In-Reply-To: <FA469D67-F519-4960-AE94-5BE1D5DE9744@jays.net>
References: <FA469D67-F519-4960-AE94-5BE1D5DE9744@jays.net>
Message-ID: <r2u3e2be51004151448g7e9ef3e1qd37f5dd582f05e1@mail.gmail.com>

And of course we need the video archive of the Karaoke done after the
meeting....  Is that going online soon?

Dan

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 16:25, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:

> Thanks again, Randal, for presenting.  :)
>
> If you want to email me your slides I'll add them to our meeting history:
>
>   http://jays.net/wiki/Meeting_history
>
> Glad to see you made it home safe (Twitter)! We hope you can come back
> again next year.
>
> See you at YAPC::NA June 21? There are rumors of a possible car pool with
> the Kansas City Perl Mongers.  :)
>
> All the best,
>
> j
>
>
>
> http://twitter.com/merlyn
> http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2010/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha-pm mailing list
> Omaha-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha-pm
>



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   (Who can watch the watchmen?)
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From sterling at hanenkamp.com  Thu Apr 15 16:05:02 2010
From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:05:02 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Fwd: Perl Position
In-Reply-To: <JAXN106939185cb54f724bfb8d1b74686c6bde2b@JAXN1069>
References: <JAXN106939185cb54f724bfb8d1b74686c6bde2b@JAXN1069>
Message-ID: <u2oc185b40e1004151605p94278a4eoe20070b2d8084d27@mail.gmail.com>

A head hunter called today looking for someone to work remote. He passed
this on in case I knew of anyone interested.

Cheers.

--
Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp
sterling at hanenkamp.com
785.370.4454

Sent from my phone.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <joel.steidle at modis.com>
Date: Apr 15, 2010 5:24 PM
Subject: Perl Position
To: "sterling at hanenkamp.com" <sterling at hanenkamp.com>

 Thanks Sterling - let me know if you have any friends interested in this
position with Wells Fargo. It's a 18 month contract and it can work
remotely.

  Senior developer needed for network security infrastructure systems
contract. Candidate will be responsible for developing and updating network
security systems applications. The successful candidate will have strong
analytical and troubleshooting skills. Documenting code, support procedures,
and required software development lifecycle documents (requirements to test
results) required.

Required Experience:

? Experience in developing in an open source environment (Linux)
? Perl
? Object oriented design and development
? MySQL (or other DB experience)
? Good documentation/communication skills

Desired Experience

? Network Security/Networking/SNMP
? Catalyst MVC Framework
? Apache, mod_perl , fast CGI
? Web Services
? Java
? Shell scripting (bash/ksh/sh)

*Joel Steidle
*www.modis.com
Direct: (770) 225-3091
Fax: (770) 225-3075
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From jay at jays.net  Thu Apr 15 19:29:06 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:29:06 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Fwd: Perl Position
In-Reply-To: <u2oc185b40e1004151605p94278a4eoe20070b2d8084d27@mail.gmail.com>
References: <JAXN106939185cb54f724bfb8d1b74686c6bde2b@JAXN1069>
	<u2oc185b40e1004151605p94278a4eoe20070b2d8084d27@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B833A7F9-1E25-484D-BB75-5E369A1A4E9C@jays.net>

On Apr 15, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Sterling Hanenkamp wrote:
> A head hunter called today looking for someone to work remote. He passed this on in case I knew of anyone interested.

Thanks! You can also point people to http://jobs.perl.org if you like. That's where the Perl action is, I've been told.

I'm impressed that a company that did $52B in revenue in 2008 is using the same web framework we are. http://catalyst.perl.org   :)

j


From jay at jays.net  Thu Apr 15 19:36:29 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:36:29 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Omaha: Thanks again!
In-Reply-To: <r2u3e2be51004151448g7e9ef3e1qd37f5dd582f05e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FA469D67-F519-4960-AE94-5BE1D5DE9744@jays.net>
	<r2u3e2be51004151448g7e9ef3e1qd37f5dd582f05e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F1157C18-CA54-4D99-9B7D-0C6640718913@jays.net>

On Apr 15, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Dan Linder wrote:
> And of course we need the video archive of the Karaoke done after the meeting....  Is that going online soon?

Ha! Randal does live-cast karaoke on occasion (follow his Twitter feed), but the wifi was too weak at Mics Karaoke Bar to pull that off. (Yes, we talked about it.)

You could talk to the Horseshoe Casino to see if they could ustream their footage of Nick and I at the after-after party.  :)

j



From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Thu Apr 15 19:55:02 2010
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:55:02 -0700
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Omaha: Thanks again!
In-Reply-To: <FA469D67-F519-4960-AE94-5BE1D5DE9744@jays.net> (Jay Hannah's
	message of "Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:25:24 -0500")
References: <FA469D67-F519-4960-AE94-5BE1D5DE9744@jays.net>
Message-ID: <8639ywf6nt.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Jay" == Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> writes:

Jay> If you want to email me your slides I'll add them to our meeting history:

Jay>    http://jays.net/wiki/Meeting_history

For the next few days, you can pick them up from

    http://drop.io/jr0aafi

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn at stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Thu Apr 15 19:55:36 2010
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:55:36 -0700
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Omaha: Thanks again!
In-Reply-To: <r2u3e2be51004151448g7e9ef3e1qd37f5dd582f05e1@mail.gmail.com>
	(Dan Linder's message of "Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:48:01 -0500")
References: <FA469D67-F519-4960-AE94-5BE1D5DE9744@jays.net>
	<r2u3e2be51004151448g7e9ef3e1qd37f5dd582f05e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86y6gods2f.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Dan" == Dan Linder <dan at linder.org> writes:

Dan> And of course we need the video archive of the Karaoke done after the
Dan> meeting....  Is that going online soon?

Thank gawd, no video.

Although I nailed Comfortably Numb, and I have 3 witnesses. :)

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn at stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

From jay at jays.net  Thu Apr 15 20:02:09 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:02:09 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Omaha: Thanks again!
In-Reply-To: <F1157C18-CA54-4D99-9B7D-0C6640718913@jays.net>
References: <FA469D67-F519-4960-AE94-5BE1D5DE9744@jays.net>
	<r2u3e2be51004151448g7e9ef3e1qd37f5dd582f05e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<F1157C18-CA54-4D99-9B7D-0C6640718913@jays.net>
Message-ID: <D3F5A837-393F-4E22-84E0-D4D94FFFB927@jays.net>

On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:36 PM, Jay Hannah wrote:
> You could talk to the Horseshoe Casino to see if they could ustream their footage of Nick and I at the after-after party.  :)

Oops. Correction: That was the after-after-after party. Crazy kids.

BTW, did you know there's a jQuery User Group in Omaha? Neither did I. I added it to the list:

   http://jays.net/wiki/Omaha_User_Groups
   http://www.meetup.com/jquery-omaha/

I posted Randal's slides into the wiki, so they should be there "forever":

   http://jays.net/wiki/Meeting_history

Cheers,

j


From sterling at hanenkamp.com  Thu Apr 15 21:20:07 2010
From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:20:07 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Fwd: Perl Position
In-Reply-To: <h2hc185b40e1004152100p7a488e84ubfae926541cc0bfc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <JAXN106939185cb54f724bfb8d1b74686c6bde2b@JAXN1069>
	<u2oc185b40e1004151605p94278a4eoe20070b2d8084d27@mail.gmail.com>
	<B833A7F9-1E25-484D-BB75-5E369A1A4E9C@jays.net>
	<h2hc185b40e1004152100p7a488e84ubfae926541cc0bfc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <q2ic185b40e1004152120r569a0b37i4aeec046f04b1e46@mail.gmail.com>

Definitely, jobs.perl.org is how I found my current gig.  I'm not sure Wells
Fargo is listed there, though. I'm sure the head hunter would prefer you go
through him. ;)

I know for a fact that a number of large banks use Perl products (mostly
because some of them work with us).

Btw, it seems that we're hiring Perl developers again too at Grant Street
Group, which is also telecommute and is listed at jobs.perl.org. (Full
disclosure: I love the job and the company, but GSG does give referal
bonuses so you might not want to consider me unbiased.)

Cheers.
--
Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp
sterling at hanenkamp.com
785.370.4454

Sent from my phone.

On Apr 15, 2010 9:29 PM, "Jay Hannah" <jay at jays.net> wrote:

On Apr 15, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Sterling Hanenkamp wrote: > A head hunter
called today looking for some...
Thanks! You can also point people to http://jobs.perl.org if you like.
That's where the Perl action is, I've been told.

I'm impressed that a company that did $52B in revenue in 2008 is using the
same web framework we are. http://catalyst.perl.org   :)

j

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From dan at linder.org  Fri Apr 16 09:22:53 2010
From: dan at linder.org (Dan Linder)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:22:53 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] [odynug] Re:  Omaha: Thanks again!
In-Reply-To: <t2u775504251004160508g88045d1cpc9fc1ee87b62786@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FA469D67-F519-4960-AE94-5BE1D5DE9744@jays.net> 
	<r2u3e2be51004151448g7e9ef3e1qd37f5dd582f05e1@mail.gmail.com> 
	<F1157C18-CA54-4D99-9B7D-0C6640718913@jays.net>
	<D3F5A837-393F-4E22-84E0-D4D94FFFB927@jays.net> 
	<t2u775504251004160508g88045d1cpc9fc1ee87b62786@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 07:08, Nicholas Nisi <nicknisi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, I was able to snap a pic of Randal nailing Comfortably Numb!

Or in this case, "Comfortably Fuzzy"...possibly meaning the same thing. :)

Dan

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From nicknisi at gmail.com  Fri Apr 16 05:08:35 2010
From: nicknisi at gmail.com (Nicholas Nisi)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:08:35 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Omaha: Thanks again!
In-Reply-To: <D3F5A837-393F-4E22-84E0-D4D94FFFB927@jays.net>
References: <FA469D67-F519-4960-AE94-5BE1D5DE9744@jays.net> 
	<r2u3e2be51004151448g7e9ef3e1qd37f5dd582f05e1@mail.gmail.com> 
	<F1157C18-CA54-4D99-9B7D-0C6640718913@jays.net>
	<D3F5A837-393F-4E22-84E0-D4D94FFFB927@jays.net>
Message-ID: <t2u775504251004160508g88045d1cpc9fc1ee87b62786@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, I was able to snap a pic of Randal nailing Comfortably Numb!

Thanks,

Nicholas J. Nisi
nicknisi at gmail.com
nicknisi at gwu.edu

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:

> On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:36 PM, Jay Hannah wrote:
> > You could talk to the Horseshoe Casino to see if they could ustream their
> footage of Nick and I at the after-after party.  :)
>
> Oops. Correction: That was the after-after-after party. Crazy kids.
>
> BTW, did you know there's a jQuery User Group in Omaha? Neither did I. I
> added it to the list:
>
>   http://jays.net/wiki/Omaha_User_Groups
>   http://www.meetup.com/jquery-omaha/
>
> I posted Randal's slides into the wiki, so they should be there "forever":
>
>   http://jays.net/wiki/Meeting_history
>
> Cheers,
>
> j
>
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From jhannah at omnihotels.com  Tue Apr 20 20:03:35 2010
From: jhannah at omnihotels.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:03:35 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] short is good
Message-ID: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034731C4@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>

laugh... caught myself changing code to this

 

   my $response;

   unless ( $response = $self->send() ) {

     return 0;

   }

   return $response;

 

this is much better:

 

   return $self->send();

 

:)

 

j

 

 

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From tedkat at gmail.com  Wed Apr 21 08:13:10 2010
From: tedkat at gmail.com (Theodore Katseres)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:13:10 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] short is good
In-Reply-To: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034731C4@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>
References: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034731C4@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>
Message-ID: <n2mb037451c1004210813r9f9b69adk1a0add31ef2cf3d9@mail.gmail.com>

2010/4/20 Jay Hannah <jhannah at omnihotels.com>

>  laugh... caught myself changing code to this
>
>
>
>    my $response;
>
>    unless ( $response = $self->send() ) {
>
>      return 0;
>
>    }
>
>    return $response;
>
>
>
> this is much better:
>
>
>
>    return $self->send();
>

For some extra GOLF points you could

{
 ...
  $self->send();
}

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From jhannah at omnihotels.com  Wed Apr 21 10:02:50 2010
From: jhannah at omnihotels.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:02:50 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] shorter is better 2
Message-ID: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034732A4@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>

Another good one from yesterday:

 

BEFORE (string manipulation):

 

  my $uri=$self->uri();     # A URL scalar w/o arguments

  foreach my $param qw(InterfaceName) {

    if ( $args{$param} ) {

       $uri .= '?' . $param .  '=' . $args{$param};

    } elsif ( $uri_parameters->{InterfaceName} ) {

       $uri .= '?' . $param . '=' . $uri_parameters->{$param};

    }

  }

  foreach my $param qw(propertyName messageType transactionId status ) {

    if ( $args{$param} ) {

       $uri .= '&' . $param .  '=' . $args{$param};

    } elsif ( $uri_parameters->{InterfaceName} )  {

       $uri .= '&' . $param . '=' . $uri_parameters->{$param};

    }

  }

 

AFTER (use URI from CPAN):

 

  my $uri = URI->new($self->uri());

  $uri->query_form(%args, %$uri_parameters);

  $uri = $uri->as_string;

 

:)

 

j

 

 

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From jhannah at omnihotels.com  Wed Apr 21 11:19:33 2010
From: jhannah at omnihotels.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:19:33 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] "Coding Kata" coding challenges
Message-ID: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034732F3@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>

This looks pretty slick at a glance. Not sure how tightly bound to Java*
it is:

 

   http://codingkata.org/

 

Any interest in hackathon-ing one of these (randomly chosen?) during an
upcoming meeting?

 

j

 

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From nicknisi at gmail.com  Wed Apr 21 11:24:51 2010
From: nicknisi at gmail.com (Nicholas Nisi)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:24:51 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] "Coding Kata" coding challenges
In-Reply-To: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034732F3@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>
References: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034732F3@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>
Message-ID: <-445666908466759224@unknownmsgid>

Definitely! Sounds fun!

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Jay Hannah <jhannah at omnihotels.com> wrote:

 This looks pretty slick at a glance. Not sure how tightly bound to Java* it
is:



   http://codingkata.org/



Any interest in hackathon-ing one of these (randomly chosen?) during an
upcoming meeting?



j



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From mkolakow at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 22 05:12:31 2010
From: mkolakow at yahoo.com (Michael Kolakowski)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:12:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Omaha.pm] "Coding Kata" coding challenges
In-Reply-To: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034732F3@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>
Message-ID: <128549.33469.qm@web54206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Actually, a group of us have started doing these at Union Pacific.? We meet every day first thing in the morning and go through a kata.
?
We've been doing the Bowling Kata from Bob Martin and sometimes the prime factors one as well.? I find it very helpful and it's a good way to start the day.? It's been successful enough that it is being turned into an official class to be offered in June!
?
Kata's certainly are not bound to any particular language -- or any subject for that matter.
?
When is the next meeting?
?
Cheers,
Michael


--- On Wed, 4/21/10, Jay Hannah <jhannah at omnihotels.com> wrote:


From: Jay Hannah <jhannah at omnihotels.com>
Subject: [Omaha.pm] "Coding Kata" coding challenges
To: omaha-pm at pm.org, odynug at googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 1:19 PM








This looks pretty slick at a glance. Not sure how tightly bound to Java* it is:
?
?? http://codingkata.org/
?
Any interest in hackathon-ing one of these (randomly chosen?) during an upcoming meeting?
?
j
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From dan at linder.org  Thu Apr 22 06:51:12 2010
From: dan at linder.org (Dan Linder)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:51:12 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] short is good
In-Reply-To: <n2mb037451c1004210813r9f9b69adk1a0add31ef2cf3d9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034731C4@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>
	<n2mb037451c1004210813r9f9b69adk1a0add31ef2cf3d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <q2k3e2be51004220651m42872653ta53489797a56b264@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe it's my old brain, but I like using "return" in this context for code
that isn't being submitted to a PerlGolf competition.

I've encountered enough bad/sketchy coding that didn't define a return value
for a subroutine that I would be suspicious if the original programmer
/meant/ to return the $self->send() value, or if they thought they were
calling some other routine (and the return value was just a
by-product/accident).

Golf is great, but it isn't always productive.  (Much like "real golf".)

DanL

2010/4/21 Theodore Katseres <tedkat at gmail.com>

> 2010/4/20 Jay Hannah <jhannah at omnihotels.com>
>
>  laugh... caught myself changing code to this
>>
>>
>>
>>    my $response;
>>
>>    unless ( $response = $self->send() ) {
>>
>>      return 0;
>>
>>    }
>>
>>    return $response;
>>
>>
>>
>> this is much better:
>>
>>
>>
>>    return $self->send();
>>
>
> For some extra GOLF points you could
>
> {
>  ...
>   $self->send();
> }
>
> --
> Ted Katseres
>      ||=O=||
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Omaha-pm at pm.org
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>



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From netarttodd at gmail.com  Fri Apr 23 07:27:38 2010
From: netarttodd at gmail.com (Todd Christopher Hamilton)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:27:38 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Output XML
In-Reply-To: <q2k3e2be51004220651m42872653ta53489797a56b264@mail.gmail.com>
References: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034731C4@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>	<n2mb037451c1004210813r9f9b69adk1a0add31ef2cf3d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<q2k3e2be51004220651m42872653ta53489797a56b264@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BD1AE5A.8000909@Gmail.com>

What is the best perl module to output XML?  The output will be then 
parsed using xslt.

-- 
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(402) 881-0438

From andy at petdance.com  Fri Apr 23 07:29:26 2010
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:29:26 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Output XML
In-Reply-To: <4BD1AE5A.8000909@Gmail.com>
References: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034731C4@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>	<n2mb037451c1004210813r9f9b69adk1a0add31ef2cf3d9@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <833467D7-B87B-40BE-811D-603504D5314F@petdance.com>


On Apr 23, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Todd Christopher Hamilton wrote:

> What is the best perl module to output XML?  The output will be then parsed using xslt.

http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?recommended_xml_modules

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From jay at jays.net  Sun Apr 25 17:00:30 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:00:30 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Output XML
In-Reply-To: <4BD1AE5A.8000909@Gmail.com>
References: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034731C4@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>	<n2mb037451c1004210813r9f9b69adk1a0add31ef2cf3d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<q2k3e2be51004220651m42872653ta53489797a56b264@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BD1AE5A.8000909@Gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B4A87920-EBCC-47A7-A22A-2595AF4D8380@jays.net>

On Apr 23, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Todd Christopher Hamilton wrote:
> What is the best perl module to output XML?  The output will be then parsed using xslt.

I use XML::Twig for everything.   :)

j



From sterling at hanenkamp.com  Tue Apr 27 05:47:23 2010
From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:47:23 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] Output XML
In-Reply-To: <B4A87920-EBCC-47A7-A22A-2595AF4D8380@jays.net>
References: <396CEDAA86B38646ACE2FEAA22C3FBF1034731C4@l3exchange.omnihotels.net>
	<n2mb037451c1004210813r9f9b69adk1a0add31ef2cf3d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<q2k3e2be51004220651m42872653ta53489797a56b264@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BD1AE5A.8000909@Gmail.com>
	<B4A87920-EBCC-47A7-A22A-2595AF4D8380@jays.net>
Message-ID: <v2lc185b40e1004270547y3065963bz485b0ae8d2d594a2@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:

> I use XML::Twig for everything.   :)
>
>
Ditto.

-- 
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From jay at jays.net  Wed Apr 28 07:48:13 2010
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:48:13 -0500
Subject: [Omaha.pm] "Coding Kata" coding challenges
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On Apr 22, 2010, at 7:12 AM, Michael Kolakowski wrote:
> Actually, a group of us have started doing these at Union Pacific.  We meet every day first thing in the morning and go through a kata.
>  
> We've been doing the Bowling Kata from Bob Martin and sometimes the prime factors one as well.  I find it very helpful and it's a good way to start the day.  It's been successful enough that it is being turned into an official class to be offered in June!
>  
> Kata's certainly are not bound to any particular language -- or any subject for that matter.
>  
> When is the next meeting?

Omaha Perl Mongers meets in conjunction with the Omaha Dynamic Language Users Group on the 2nd Tuesday of each month.

   Tuesday May 11 2010, 7pm
   http://jays.net/wiki/Odlug

Our May agenda is set (Sam Tesla presents GO and/or Haskell), but if you could lead the June meeting with a "this is how we do Katas at U.P." I think that would be awesome!  :)  The room is full of computers and lots of people bring laptops, so they could each work the Kata in their own preferred tool... or however Katas work.  :)

   Various challenges we've worked on:
   http://github.com/jhannah/odynug

Cheers,

j