From mike at oakleyweb.com Mon Aug 4 17:13:16 2003 From: mike at oakleyweb.com (Michael Wood) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:00 2004 Subject: OC-PM: Meeting Reminder... Message-ID: <3F2EDA7C.1090902@oakleyweb.com> Greetings, Tomorrow night! be there...or, uhm..don't :) ( http://oc.pm.org for details ) -Michael From mike at oakleyweb.com Wed Aug 6 14:39:16 2003 From: mike at oakleyweb.com (Michael Wood) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:00 2004 Subject: OC-PM: follow up... Message-ID: <3F315964.8060904@oakleyweb.com> Greetings, Just a quick once over about last night - a few new bodies showed up last night :) Everyone was able to chime in about introductory perl stuff. We talked about why perl would be a stellar choice in some situations, the differences between perl scripts, cgi scripts and mod_perl programs...we talked about how the filesystem and perl play (usually) nicely with each other - and then I dropped to a shell to show some very basic examples that illustrated the lexical structure of a script and how to pipe things. All in all it was a lot of fun - we gorged on pizza, soda coffee and all things Perl ;) As for next month, I'm still churning around what that topic could be, considering after an introduction to Perl itself, you could branch off in just about any direction - so I'll keep you all posted on what the meat will be for the next meet. -Michael From rainy at guavas.org Wed Aug 6 15:42:34 2003 From: rainy at guavas.org (Kelly Adams) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:00 2004 Subject: OC-PM: Next meeting... Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20030806133641.009f0ec0@grc.com> As for next month, I'm still churning around what that topic could be, considering after an introduction to Perl itself, you could branch off in just about any direction - so I'll keep you all posted on what the meat will be for the next mee How about some examples of how Perl can be of use to someone new to the language, how say, someone new to the language can go about creating a useful tool to help them with their daily work. Or perhaps a basic discussion on different formats and layouts of the language. Perl is quite diverse and many people have many ideas of how it should look and perform, it's a tad daunting for a newbie with so many options to choose from. It would also be interesting for the veterans to be able to share how they feel it should be and also maybe get more ideas. -Kelly -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/oc-pm/attachments/20030806/1a778aea/attachment.htm From dgwilson at sonomasystems.net Mon Aug 11 13:34:19 2003 From: dgwilson at sonomasystems.net (Wilson, Douglas) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:00 2004 Subject: OC-PM: Next meeting... Message-ID: > How about some examples of how Perl can be of use to someone new to the language, > how say, someone new to the language can go about creating a useful tool to help them > with their daily work. I think one of the problems with that is that everyone has a different type of daily work. If we could start some discussion on the list about what sorts of things we do, need to do, would like to do, etc., we could get an idea about what to talk about at the next meeting, and maybe someone would feel inspired enough to talk about how to do something, what module(s) to use, how to use them, etc. Another problem is that when you're new to something you sometimes don't know what questions to ask yet, but with discussion we may be able to nail down the questions and maybe even the answer for you :-) (and that's a general 'you' aimed at no one in particular). > Or perhaps a basic discussion on different formats and layouts of the language. > Perl is quite diverse and many people have many ideas of how it should > look and perform, it's a tad daunting for a newbie with so many options to > choose from. It would also be interesting for the veterans to be able to share > how they feel it should be and also maybe get more ideas. I think this was discussed briefly at the last meeting (at least the 'how it looks' part), and one answer was to start with 'perldoc perlstyle' as a basic guideline, though you're not expected to agree on everything in there. Most variations on style can be supplied as options to 'perltidy' (just google for 'perltidy'), which can impose a consistent style for a perl-shop of many people working on the same code. -Doug From mike at oakleyweb.com Tue Aug 26 16:52:37 2003 From: mike at oakleyweb.com (Michael Wood) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:00 2004 Subject: OC-PM: Next week's topic Message-ID: <3F4BD6A5.8030207@oakleyweb.com> Greetings, Just a heads up reminder that next week's meeting is coming up, scheduled for September 2nd. I just finished up a Perl daemon that monitors network services, and thought it would be interesting to bring it to the group for discussion. We'll be going over the general concepts of daemonizing a Perl program, why I wrote the daemon in the first place, and how I did it with the actual program itself as an example. Awash with data structure and socket goodness. Pizza, coffee and sodas of course. Please consult http://oc.pm.org for directions if need be or email me with any questions you may have. -Michael