From michael at linuxkungfu.com  Wed Jul  3 15:24:09 2002
From: michael at linuxkungfu.com (Michael S. Lavery)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: Introduction
Message-ID: <1025727850.1409.16.camel@slack>

Hello,

I am a Perl programmer who recently moved to Orange County from the East
Coast. I am working for an online learning company in Laguna Beach. I'm
new to the list, so I thought I would introduce myself. Hope to see you
at a meeting soon.

Michael Lavery
http://www.linuxkungfu.com/
http://www.learning.net/

-- 
"Reverend Fathers, my letters did not usually follow each other at such
close intervals, nor were they so long... This one would not be so long
had I but the leisure to make it shorter."
-Blaise Pascal 
Lettres Provinciales 


From bill at daze.net  Tue Jul  9 20:57:23 2002
From: bill at daze.net (Bill Gerrard)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: Introduction
In-Reply-To: <1025727850.1409.16.camel@slack>
Message-ID: <EJEAKMAPGNGJIGOBABFMEEFPDNAA.bill@daze.net>

Hey Michael,

Welcome to the list.  I'm not sure who else is here since this is the first
post I've seen since joining the list on May 30th.  If anyone else is here,
please speak up!

It sure would be nice if we would have a meeting sometime soon...  (hint,
hint Ryan)

> I am a Perl programmer who recently moved to Orange County from the East
> Coast. I am working for an online learning company in Laguna Beach. I'm
> new to the list, so I thought I would introduce myself. Hope to see you
> at a meeting soon.


From SKamkar at LucidX.com  Tue Jul  9 21:05:24 2002
From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: Introduction
References: <EJEAKMAPGNGJIGOBABFMEEFPDNAA.bill@daze.net>
Message-ID: <3D2B9664.50304@LucidX.com>

Well I'm here :)

Name's Samy Kamkar and I'm the founder of the LA perl monger...
but moving down to Sandy Eggo this month.  My work is in Carlsbad .. not 
sure how far away that is from OC but I'm definitely going to begin 
participating in the OCPM and get it rolling if it needs to be :)

Hope to meet with you all soon

-Samy

Bill Gerrard wrote:

> Hey Michael,
> 
> Welcome to the list.  I'm not sure who else is here since this is the first
> post I've seen since joining the list on May 30th.  If anyone else is here,
> please speak up!
> 
> It sure would be nice if we would have a meeting sometime soon...  (hint,
> hint Ryan)
> 
> 
>>I am a Perl programmer who recently moved to Orange County from the East
>>Coast. I am working for an online learning company in Laguna Beach. I'm
>>new to the list, so I thought I would introduce myself. Hope to see you
>>at a meeting soon.
>>
> 
> 


-- 
Samy Kamkar -- cp5 -- SKamkar@LucidX.com
LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com


From ryan at web.oakley.com  Tue Jul  9 22:07:29 2002
From: ryan at web.oakley.com (Ryan Erwin)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: Introduction
In-Reply-To: <3D2B9664.50304@LucidX.com>
Message-ID: <2B8BDB7E-93B2-11D6-A578-00039357E21C@web.oakley.com>

Yes-

Meeting!

I'm so excited to have interest.  I am also excited to schedule a 
meeting soon.

Please, if you are reading this suggest any meeting date so we may get 
the ball rolling.

I Redmond, we met every 3rd Tuesday of the month at 7:00 pm.  The 
Seattle group would meet on the 2nd Wednesday at 7:00 pm.  The LA group 
meets on Saturday afternoon.

I recently completed yet another XML library called XML::EasySlice that 
I should be uploading to CPAN soon.  Perhaps discussion of this library, 
AxKit - the Perl XML Application Server, Perl in Corporate America, to 
name a few topic that I would be interested in presenting.
<File attached: XML-EasySlice-1.8.tar.gz>
Thanks!!!

-R

On Tuesday, July 9, 2002, at 07:05  PM, Samy Kamkar wrote:

> Well I'm here :)
>
> Name's Samy Kamkar and I'm the founder of the LA perl monger...
> but moving down to Sandy Eggo this month.  My work is in Carlsbad .. 
> not sure how far away that is from OC but I'm definitely going to begin 
> participating in the OCPM and get it rolling if it needs to be :)
>
> Hope to meet with you all soon
>
> -Samy
>
> Bill Gerrard wrote:
>
>> Hey Michael,
>> Welcome to the list.  I'm not sure who else is here since this is the 
>> first
>> post I've seen since joining the list on May 30th.  If anyone else is 
>> here,
>> please speak up!
>> It sure would be nice if we would have a meeting sometime soon...  
>> (hint,
>> hint Ryan)
>>> I am a Perl programmer who recently moved to Orange County from the 
>>> East
>>> Coast. I am working for an online learning company in Laguna Beach. 
>>> I'm
>>> new to the list, so I thought I would introduce myself. Hope to see 
>>> you
>>> at a meeting soon.
> -- Samy Kamkar -- cp5 -- SKamkar@LucidX.com
> LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com
---
Ryan Erwin
Web Director
Oakley, Inc.
949.672.6010
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From andrew at sweger.net  Tue Jul  9 22:10:32 2002
From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: Introduction
In-Reply-To: <2B8BDB7E-93B2-11D6-A578-00039357E21C@web.oakley.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207092006020.1520-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Ryan Erwin wrote:

> I'm so excited to have interest.  I am also excited to schedule a 
> meeting soon.
> 
> Please, if you are reading this suggest any meeting date so we may get 
> the ball rolling.

Sometime between 17 July and 31 July preferably. But can you come up with
a topic as exciting as Damian's Time::Space::Continuum? =) I'm catching
that next Tuesday evening in Seattle before heading back to OC. However,
it doesn't look like I'll have my pack/unpack primer ready to present this
month.

-- 
Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several
                                things can go wrong at once.




From bill at daze.net  Wed Jul 10 02:23:58 2002
From: bill at daze.net (bill@daze.net)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: Introduction
In-Reply-To: <3D2B9664.50304@LucidX.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.20.0207092332120.3981-100000@force.daze.net>

> Name's Samy Kamkar and I'm the founder of the LA perl monger...
> but moving down to Sandy Eggo this month.  My work is in Carlsbad .. not 
> sure how far away that is from OC but I'm definitely going to begin 
> participating in the OCPM and get it rolling if it needs to be :)

Hmmm, Carlsbad is about a 30 minute drive in good traffic (i.e. no
traffic).

By the way, I guess I should actually introduce myself to the list.  When
I signed up I thought this was just an *announcement* list.  I didn't
realize I could post until I saw Michael's post a few days ago.

I'm really just a small time perl hacker coding up stuff for the business
that my wife and I started back in 1996 (web hosting, domain reg, DNS and
forwarding services).  In my spare time, I have coded most of the
management tools (both back end and end user interfaces) used by my wife,
her employees and customers.  All coded in perl, most talk to a mysql
database.  My full time day job has nothing at all to do with perl....  :(

I look forward to learning more from all of you.

Last year at OSCON I had the pleasure of *formal* perl training from
Randal Schwartz and Tom Phoenix
(http://perl.oreilly.com/news/perlint_0801.html).  It was a lot of fun.  
Then I went on to sit through talks by the likes of Damian Conway (that
guy's knowledge is incredible).

I can't want until OSCON2002 which starts in less than two weeks (July 22).

-Bill


From bill at daze.net  Wed Jul 10 02:42:54 2002
From: bill at daze.net (bill@daze.net)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: Introduction
In-Reply-To: <2B8BDB7E-93B2-11D6-A578-00039357E21C@web.oakley.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.20.0207100031340.3981-100000@force.daze.net>


> Please, if you are reading this suggest any meeting date so we may get 
> the ball rolling.

Anytime but the week of July 22 (OSCON in San Diego)
 
> I Redmond, we met every 3rd Tuesday of the month at 7:00 pm.  The 
> Seattle group would meet on the 2nd Wednesday at 7:00 pm.  The LA group 
> meets on Saturday afternoon.

A weeknight would probably be best for me.  The weekends are just way to
busy.  We ought to look at meeting times of other orgs some of us may
attend so we don't conflict.  For example, UUASC-LA meets the first
Thursday of the month and UUASC-OC meets the second Monday.  
 
> I recently completed yet another XML library called XML::EasySlice that 
> I should be uploading to CPAN soon.  Perhaps discussion of this library, 
> AxKit - the Perl XML Application Server, Perl in Corporate America, to 
> name a few topic that I would be interested in presenting.

I would be really interested in knowing more about perl use in corporate
America (like at Oakley).  Might be a direction I may be headed
someday...  The corporate America I know in is Microsoft oriented.





From ryan at web.oakley.com  Wed Jul 10 16:39:40 2002
From: ryan at web.oakley.com (Ryan Erwin)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: Meeting Proposal and Topic Selection
Message-ID: <8A70D92B-944D-11D6-9E4C-00039357E21C@web.oakley.com>

After reviewing some responses I suggest that we meet 1st Tuesday of 
each month at 7:00 pm.

Next, any suggestions on a meeting topic?

XML Topics:
  -> XML and Perl
  -> XML EasySlice
  -> AxKit - XML Application Server
  -> XSLT
  -> XML and SQL - Working Together

Configuration Management Topics:
  -> Perl Application Deployment
  -> Perl Applications and CVS

Other Topics:
  -> SAWA - the Simple API for Web Applications
  -> On the Fly graphics with Perl

Please respond to ryan@web.oakley.com with your topic suggestion, or 
zero or more of the topics above that you are interested in.

Thanks-

-R
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From michael at linuxkungfu.com  Thu Jul 11 14:51:20 2002
From: michael at linuxkungfu.com (Michael S. Lavery)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: hash changing
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.4.20.0207100031340.3981-100000@force.daze.net>
References: <Pine.BSI.4.20.0207100031340.3981-100000@force.daze.net>
Message-ID: <1026417082.25878.25.camel@slack>

Hey,

Is there a way to edit an element in a hash table without recreating the
whole thing? I just need to change a few values.

Thanks, couldn't find the info on perlmonks or the camel book.

Mike L.

cya at the meeting


-- 
"Reverend Fathers, my letters did not usually follow each other at such
close intervals, nor were they so long... This one would not be so long
had I but the leisure to make it shorter."
-Blaise Pascal 
Lettres Provinciales 


From andrew at sweger.net  Thu Jul 11 15:16:52 2002
From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: hash changing
In-Reply-To: <1026417082.25878.25.camel@slack>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207111312080.1520-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>

On 11 Jul 2002, Michael S. Lavery wrote:

> Is there a way to edit an element in a hash table without recreating the
> whole thing? I just need to change a few values.

Please excuse if I've over simplified this.

Given:

%fruit = ( Orange => "orange",
           Apple  => "red",
           Banana => "yellow",
);

Let's say you want to change the color (value) of the Apple element.

$fruit{Apple} = "white";

Is that what you're looking for? There's a couple (hundred) other ways to
do it.

-- 
Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several
                                things can go wrong at once.


From michael at linuxkungfu.com  Thu Jul 11 15:55:18 2002
From: michael at linuxkungfu.com (Michael S. Lavery)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: hash changing
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207111312080.1520-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207111312080.1520-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>
Message-ID: <1026420920.25877.32.camel@slack>

On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 13:16, Andrew Sweger wrote:
> Please excuse if I've over simplified this.

No apologies necessary.

> Is that what you're looking for? There's a couple (hundred) other ways to
> do it.
> 

that was it! Thanks, so much.

I love it when I send a message before lunch and come back to have it
answered.

Sorry if this mailing list is not intended for Perl questions. Didn't
see anything on the sign-up email so I figured I'd give it a shot. 

<shameless plug> Check out the SQL Agent program. A new open source
database of the CIA and other government agencies flubs and blunders.
Written in Perl . http://www.regina-project.org/sql_agent/index.html
</shameless plug>

Mike L.
 
-- 
"Reverend Fathers, my letters did not usually follow each other at such
close intervals, nor were they so long... This one would not be so long
had I but the leisure to make it shorter."
-Blaise Pascal 
Lettres Provinciales 


From andrew at sweger.net  Thu Jul 11 16:15:00 2002
From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: hash changing
In-Reply-To: <1026420920.25877.32.camel@slack>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207111359310.1520-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>

On 11 Jul 2002, Michael S. Lavery wrote:

> Sorry if this mailing list is not intended for Perl questions. Didn't
> see anything on the sign-up email so I figured I'd give it a shot. 

No apology necessary. :)

If OC-PM evolves anything like SPUG (Seattle Perl Users Group), my home
module, we'll soon be answering questions on C, C++, and Linux kernel
parameters. (Not necessarily a bad thing.)

-- 
Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several
                                things can go wrong at once.


From mhoskins555 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 11 16:33:46 2002
From: mhoskins555 at hotmail.com (Mark Hoskins)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: Hi all! 
Message-ID: <F9410Gai4omRXf2LTrp0000e059@hotmail.com>



Hello world, I just signed up on this list.
Is (was) there a meeting this month?
Can I come too? :)

-Mark

_________________________________________________________________
Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com


From michael at linuxkungfu.com  Thu Jul 11 16:42:34 2002
From: michael at linuxkungfu.com (Michael S. Lavery)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: [Fwd: OC-PM: Meeting Proposal and Topic Selection]
Message-ID: <1026423755.26979.41.camel@slack>

This was the proposed meeting time and choice of topics.

Mike
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From mark at web.oakley.com  Fri Jul 12 10:17:47 2002
From: mark at web.oakley.com (mark)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: hash changing
References: <Pine.BSI.4.20.0207100031340.3981-100000@force.daze.net> <1026417082.25878.25.camel@slack>
Message-ID: <3D2EF31B.50604@web.oakley.com>

Hi Mike,

Sure there is!

If you have a hash table that looks like:

%hash = (
    key1 => value1,
    key2 => value2 );


and you want to modify key2's value of 'value2' to 'some new value all 
that you would need to do is access it and change the value. Something 
like this:

$hash{key2} = 'some new value';

or if you just wanted to add on to the end of it you could do something 
like:

$hash{key2} .= 'some new value';

    which is really the same as:
     $hash{key2} = $hash{key2} . 'some new value';


Hope this helps!

(feel free to post you code --this may be easier for me to help you 
directly)

-Mark Mac



Michael S. Lavery wrote:

>Hey,
>
>Is there a way to edit an element in a hash table without recreating the
>whole thing? I just need to change a few values.
>
>Thanks, couldn't find the info on perlmonks or the camel book.
>
>Mike L.
>
>cya at the meeting
>
>



From ryan at web.oakley.com  Mon Jul 22 01:30:26 2002
From: ryan at web.oakley.com (Ryan Erwin)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: OC.pm - Meeting: Tuesday August 8th @ 7:00
Message-ID: <826BA0FA-9D3C-11D6-9434-00039357E21C@web.oakley.com>

Our first meeting is quickly approaching.
We will be meeting on Tuesday August 8th @ 7:00 PM.

The Discussion Topic will be:
   Perl, XML, and Oakley.com - XML in the real world

Check out our website if you need directions:
   http://oc.pm.org/#location

Make your calendar!  See you soon.

-R
---
Ryan Erwin
Web Director
Oakley, Inc.
949.672.6010


From ryan at web.oakley.com  Mon Jul 22 02:07:23 2002
From: ryan at web.oakley.com (Ryan Erwin)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: Correction - Meeting: Tuesday August 6th @ 7:00
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207212336000.4979-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>
Message-ID: <AB96A4A0-9D41-11D6-9434-00039357E21C@web.oakley.com>

CORRECTION!

Our first meeting will be Tuesday August 6th at 7:00 pm.
Tuesday August 8th won't be until 2006.
I'd prefer if we didn't wait that long for our first meeting.

The Discussion Topic is still:
   Perl, XML and Oakley.com - XML in the real world

-R

> On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Ryan Erwin wrote:
>
>> Our first meeting is quickly approaching.
>> We will be meeting on Tuesday August 8th @ 7:00 PM.
>>
>> The Discussion Topic will be:
>>    Perl, XML, and Oakley.com - XML in the real world
>>
>> Check out our website if you need directions:
>>    http://oc.pm.org/#location
>>
>> Make your calendar!  See you soon.
>>
>> -R
>> ---
>> Ryan Erwin
>> Web Director
>> Oakley, Inc.
>> 949.672.6010


From michael at linuxkungfu.com  Tue Jul 30 11:15:35 2002
From: michael at linuxkungfu.com (Michael S. Lavery)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: first meeting
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207111312080.1520-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0207111312080.1520-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>
Message-ID: <1028045736.2065.13.camel@slack>

Hi all,

I must have lost the email stating time and place of the first meeting.
Is it the first Tuesday of the month? I know there was even a second
email with something about the year 2006. As I type this I am beginning
to think it was the first Thursday which might mean its this thursday
the 2nd. Please confirm the date, so that I don't miss out.

Thanks,

Michael





From bill at daze.net  Tue Jul 30 12:00:09 2002
From: bill at daze.net (bill@daze.net)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:04:54 2004
Subject: OC-PM: first meeting
In-Reply-To: <1028045736.2065.13.camel@slack>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.20.0207300956390.17552-100000@force.daze.net>


> I must have lost the email stating time and place of the first meeting.
> Is it the first Tuesday of the month? I know there was even a second

Hint: we have a group web site at http://oc.pm.org/

By the way, who posted the second announcement about OC.pm on the message
board at OSCON on Thursday night or Friday morning?  Hopefully the *extra*
exposure got us noticed and we'll pick up a few bodies from those
announcements.

Bill