From george at metaart.org Tue Oct 3 13:31:04 2006 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:31:04 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Fwd: Inaugural Monitoring SIG meeting Tuesday, Oct. 10, 7PM Message-ID: <200610031331.04348.george@metaart.org> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Inaugural Monitoring SIG meeting Tuesday, Oct. 10, 7PM Date: Tuesday 03 October 2006 12:17 From: "Peter Mui" To: George Woolley (Hi George: is this announcement an appropriate post to Oak-pm? If yes: can you please post it to the list? Thanks! -Peter) Announcing the inaugural meeting of the Monitoring SIG next Tuesday, October 10 at 7PM (in conjunction with BayLISA, the local Large Installation System Administrators chapter). They'll be a short overview presentation on Open Source monitoring tools and and then we'll open it up for a discussion of issues people want to cover in the SIG. All interested parties are invited (nay, heartily encouraged!) to attend. Here's the text-based announcement: feel free to forward it as you see fit: ----------------------------------------------------- What: Inaugural Monitoring SIG Meeting Who: Anyone interested in IT monitoring issues and tools When: Tuesday, October 10 2006, 7PM Where: GroundWork Open Source, 139 Townsend St., San Francisco How: 139 Townsend St. is very near AT&T Park. It is two blocks from the CalTrain Depot. Take the MUNI N trolley "inbound" to 2nd and King (ballpark stop) or take the 15 or 30 buses crosstown. Free evening street parking can usually be found. We'll have a brief presentation and then brainstorm about ways to build the finest sys admin/IT tools for monitoring and how this SIG can facilitate that. Food (probably pizza) and drinks (definitely pop) will be provided by GroundWork. RSVP (not necessary, but helpful): Peter Mui, pmui at groundworkopensource.com, 415 992 4573 ----------------------------------------------------- Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, -Peter Peter Mui, Open Source Community Advocate GROUNDWORK Open Source, Inc. 139 Townsend Street, Suite 100 San Francisco, CA 94107-1946 +1 415 992 4573 (direct) +1 415 947 0684 (fax) pmui at groundworkopensource.com ------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061003/8ebd3b44/attachment.html From david at fetter.org Fri Oct 6 12:08:23 2006 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:08:23 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] SFPUG Meeting: PostgreSQL and .NET Message-ID: <20061006190823.GA32482@fetter.org> Folks, Jon Asher will be talking about how to use PostgreSQL and .NET together. As Larry Wall said about Perl years ago, PostgreSQL competes by cooperating. :) Where: Microsoft Headquarters, San Francisco The Landmark at One Market, Suite 200 San Francisco, CA 94105 http://postgresql.meetup.com/1/venue/?venueId=180195 When: Thursday, Oct 19, 2006 7:00 PM RSVP: ASAP to david at fetter.org so you can get fed. Thanks very much to the folks at Microsoft for hosting this meeting. -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! From george at metaart.org Fri Oct 6 20:50:20 2006 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 20:50:20 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Interesting Article Message-ID: <200610062050.20727.george@metaart.org> Link: Design patterns of 1972 (MJD) http://newbabe.pobox.com/~mjd/blog/prog/design-patterns.html From george at metaart.org Mon Oct 9 10:57:56 2006 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:57:56 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] CSS: The Missing Manual - review In-Reply-To: <15ec118b4d696cf6a0ac32289757316c@nola.house.name> References: <15ec118b4d696cf6a0ac32289757316c@nola.house.name> Message-ID: <200610091057.56732.george@metaart.org> All, There's a review of "CSS: The Missing Manual" on our site at http://www.metaart.org/opug/reviews/csstmm.html should you wish to look at it. Feeback (comments, corrections, etc.) is welcome. George From alamozzz at yahoo.com Mon Oct 9 16:44:51 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 16:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters Message-ID: <20061009234451.51834.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> Hey, I've made some Linux posters. Have spoken with someone about perhaps printing and selling them, with a portion of the proceeds going to the Free Software Foundation. Scaled-down versions are on my website, at: http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_gnu.html http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_is_hot.html Any feedback is appreciated. Cheers, Adrien --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2?/min or less. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061009/f668d25b/attachment.html From david at fetter.org Mon Oct 9 17:23:43 2006 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:23:43 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061009234451.51834.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061009234451.51834.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061010002343.GJ32131@fetter.org> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 04:44:51PM -0700, Adrien Lamothe wrote: > Hey, > I've made some Linux posters. Have spoken with someone about perhaps > printing and selling them, with a portion of the proceeds going to the Free > Software Foundation. Scaled-down versions are on my website, at: > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_gnu.html > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_is_hot.html > Any feedback is appreciated. If you're going there, go the whole route and get pictures of her fellating him. Otherwise, please consider the effect you're having on women who wish to use FOSS tools but don't wish to be treated as sexual accessories to teenagers of whatever age. Cheers, D -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! From alamozzz at yahoo.com Mon Oct 9 17:28:30 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010002343.GJ32131@fetter.org> Message-ID: <20061010002830.1032.qmail@web50508.mail.yahoo.com> I think I'll do one where the female is on the computer, with a hot young guy on her shoulder. David Fetter wrote: On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 04:44:51PM -0700, Adrien Lamothe wrote: > Hey, > I've made some Linux posters. Have spoken with someone about perhaps > printing and selling them, with a portion of the proceeds going to the Free > Software Foundation. Scaled-down versions are on my website, at: > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_gnu.html > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_is_hot.html > Any feedback is appreciated. If you're going there, go the whole route and get pictures of her fellating him. Otherwise, please consider the effect you're having on women who wish to use FOSS tools but don't wish to be treated as sexual accessories to teenagers of whatever age. Cheers, D -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! _______________________________________________ Oakland mailing list Oakland at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061009/f9e13c98/attachment.html From david at fetter.org Mon Oct 9 17:31:21 2006 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:31:21 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010002830.1032.qmail@web50508.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061010002343.GJ32131@fetter.org> <20061010002830.1032.qmail@web50508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061010003121.GK32131@fetter.org> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 05:28:30PM -0700, Adrien Lamothe wrote: > > I think I'll do one where the female is on the computer, with a hot young > guy on her shoulder. There you go :) Cheers, D > David Fetter wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 04:44:51PM -0700, Adrien Lamothe wrote: > > Hey, > > I've made some Linux posters. Have spoken with someone about perhaps > > printing and selling them, with a portion of the proceeds going to the > Free > > Software Foundation. Scaled-down versions are on my website, at: > > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_gnu.html > > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_is_hot.html > > Any feedback is appreciated. > If you're going there, go the whole route and get pictures of her > fellating him. > Otherwise, please consider the effect you're having on women who wish > to use FOSS tools but don't wish to be treated as sexual accessories > to teenagers of whatever age. > Cheers, > D > -- > David Fetter http://fetter.org/ > phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 > Skype: davidfetter > Remember to vote! > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your own [1]web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. [2]Yahoo! > Small Business. > > References > > 1. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43290/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains > 2. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=41244/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! From alamozzz at yahoo.com Mon Oct 9 17:46:03 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010003121.GK32131@fetter.org> Message-ID: <20061010004603.4315.qmail@web50503.mail.yahoo.com> I can assure you she is anything but his accessory, and he is comfortably past his teenage years. It is unfortunate that doctrinaire political correctness may cloud people's interpretation of an expression of genuine feeling by a couple. I am looking forward to availability of the two models (also a couple) I plan to use to do the poster where the female is using the computer. David Fetter wrote: On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 05:28:30PM -0700, Adrien Lamothe wrote: > > I think I'll do one where the female is on the computer, with a hot young > guy on her shoulder. There you go :) Cheers, D > David Fetter wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 04:44:51PM -0700, Adrien Lamothe wrote: > > Hey, > > I've made some Linux posters. Have spoken with someone about perhaps > > printing and selling them, with a portion of the proceeds going to the > Free > > Software Foundation. Scaled-down versions are on my website, at: > > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_gnu.html > > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_is_hot.html > > Any feedback is appreciated. > If you're going there, go the whole route and get pictures of her > fellating him. > Otherwise, please consider the effect you're having on women who wish > to use FOSS tools but don't wish to be treated as sexual accessories > to teenagers of whatever age. > Cheers, > D > -- > David Fetter http://fetter.org/ > phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 > Skype: davidfetter > Remember to vote! > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your own [1]web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. [2]Yahoo! > Small Business. > > References > > 1. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43290/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains > 2. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=41244/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Oakland mailing list > Oakland at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! _______________________________________________ Oakland mailing list Oakland at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061009/120157fa/attachment.html From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Mon Oct 9 19:12:33 2006 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:12:33 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061009234451.51834.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061009234451.51834.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1160446353.452b019197c29@webmail.rawbw.com> Just my $0.02 USD worth, or so, ... but I'd be inclined to: scrap the two with the gal crawling all over the guy, go back to the "Macs are cool" shot, redo that one, almost exactly the same, but just cover more of the surrounding area (particularly to the sides and front of the (presumed) models). That makes your "Macs are cool" shot. Then redo it for "Linux is hot". *Exactly* the same (same models, clothes, location, camera positioning, etc.), except I'd change it as follows: those two models are smiling a fair bit more, ... but not too much - enough to suggest they're much more content and satisfied with what they're working with/on, but nothing to suggest what's going on is at all out-of-the-ordinary or exceptional in what they observe - and their gazes are still as fixed upon their computer screens ... except they're not Mac computers ... they're something "obiously" running LINUX (or so should well be implied by the apparent logos/stickers), ... and ... there's a fair sized crowd around each of them, swooning at them (but not crawling over them), "hot" guys and gals, ... and heck, maybe even a fair mix of 40/50/.../70+ folks mixed in there too, all swooning and quite obviously admiring the users of Linux (and to a lesser degree their systems running Linux - but some can have their attention focused there too) ... and again, the two using the Linux systems are carrying on as if to say, "This is nothing at all unusual or extrordinary, this is just how it always is with Linux". Actually, ... could change out the models sitting at the computers in the "Linux is hot" shot, as described above, ... but attire, presentation, posture, etc., should be quite similar (using the exact same pair at the computers might seem a bit "confusing" (e.g. what came first, why'd they switch, which way, etc.)). Maybe also arrange those two tables a bit further apart (more emphasis on the relative "coolness") of Mac) - and also leaves more room for an admiring/swooning crowd with same position of the computer using models and tables in the "Linux is hot" shot. references/excerpts: "Linux posters" sequence: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/2006-October/001897.html http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/2006-October/subject.html Quoting Adrien Lamothe: > I've made some Linux posters. Have spoken with someone about perhaps printing > and selling them, with a portion of the proceeds going to the Free Software > Foundation. Scaled-down versions are on my website, at: > > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_gnu.html > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_is_hot.html > > Any feedback is appreciated. From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Mon Oct 9 19:54:00 2006 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joseph Brenner) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:54:00 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010002343.GJ32131@fetter.org> References: <20061009234451.51834.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> <20061010002343.GJ32131@fetter.org> Message-ID: <200610100254.k9A2s1DK097931@mail0.rawbw.com> David Fetter wrote: > Adrien Lamothe wrote: > > I've made some Linux posters. Have spoken with someone about > > perhaps printing and selling them, with a portion of the proceeds > > going to the Free Software Foundation. Scaled-down versions are > > on my website, at: > > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_gnu.html > > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_is_hot.html > > Any feedback is appreciated. > > > > If you're going there, go the whole route and get pictures of her > fellating him. > > Otherwise, please consider the effect you're having on women who wish > to use FOSS tools but don't wish to be treated as sexual accessories > to teenagers of whatever age. > > Well, I tried them out on Raven, and she responded "Oh, that's *cute*!"; and then added "*We* should do one of those!" However, as I remember it, Linuxcare discovered that things like this don't travel well outside the Bay Area. From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Mon Oct 9 20:55:57 2006 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joseph Brenner) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:55:57 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061009234451.51834.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061009234451.51834.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610100355.k9A3tvvE037849@mail0.rawbw.com> Adrien Lamothe wrote: > I've made some Linux posters. Have spoken with someone about perhaps > printing and selling them, with a portion of the proceeds going to the > Free Software Foundation. Scaled-down versions are on my website, at: > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_gnu.html > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_is_hot.html > Any feedback is appreciated. The "Mac is Cool" setting is clearly the Brainwash. Where's the "Linux is Hot" setting? Nice couch. From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Mon Oct 9 20:55:57 2006 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joseph Brenner) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:55:57 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061009234451.51834.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061009234451.51834.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610100355.k9A3tvvE037849@mail0.rawbw.com> Adrien Lamothe wrote: > I've made some Linux posters. Have spoken with someone about perhaps > printing and selling them, with a portion of the proceeds going to the > Free Software Foundation. Scaled-down versions are on my website, at: > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_gnu.html > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_is_hot.html > Any feedback is appreciated. The "Mac is Cool" setting is clearly the Brainwash. Where's the "Linux is Hot" setting? Nice couch. From alamozzz at yahoo.com Tue Oct 10 10:54:29 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <1160446353.452b019197c29@webmail.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20061010175430.11338.qmail@web50504.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Michael, those are excellent suggestions. I understand where you're coming from and I think your scenes are effective. It is difficult to do an ad that appeals to a wide range of people. IBM's "Linux child" series was a masterpiece, that had wide appeal, though non-techies must have found it cryptic. Michael Paoli wrote: Just my $0.02 USD worth, or so, ... but I'd be inclined to: scrap the two with the gal crawling all over the guy, go back to the "Macs are cool" shot, redo that one, almost exactly the same, but just cover more of the surrounding area (particularly to the sides and front of the (presumed) models). That makes your "Macs are cool" shot. Then redo it for "Linux is hot". *Exactly* the same (same models, clothes, location, camera positioning, etc.), except I'd change it as follows: those two models are smiling a fair bit more, ... but not too much - enough to suggest they're much more content and satisfied with what they're working with/on, but nothing to suggest what's going on is at all out-of-the-ordinary or exceptional in what they observe - and their gazes are still as fixed upon their computer screens ... except they're not Mac computers ... they're something "obiously" running LINUX (or so should well be implied by the apparent logos/stickers), ... and ... there's a fair sized crowd around each of them, swooning at them (but not crawling over them), "hot" guys and gals, ... and heck, maybe even a fair mix of 40/50/.../70+ folks mixed in there too, all swooning and quite obviously admiring the users of Linux (and to a lesser degree their systems running Linux - but some can have their attention focused there too) ... and again, the two using the Linux systems are carrying on as if to say, "This is nothing at all unusual or extrordinary, this is just how it always is with Linux". Actually, ... could change out the models sitting at the computers in the "Linux is hot" shot, as described above, ... but attire, presentation, posture, etc., should be quite similar (using the exact same pair at the computers might seem a bit "confusing" (e.g. what came first, why'd they switch, which way, etc.)). Maybe also arrange those two tables a bit further apart (more emphasis on the relative "coolness") of Mac) - and also leaves more room for an admiring/swooning crowd with same position of the computer using models and tables in the "Linux is hot" shot. references/excerpts: "Linux posters" sequence: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/2006-October/001897.html http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/2006-October/subject.html Quoting Adrien Lamothe: > I've made some Linux posters. Have spoken with someone about perhaps printing > and selling them, with a portion of the proceeds going to the Free Software > Foundation. Scaled-down versions are on my website, at: > > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_gnu.html > http://www.adriensweb.com/images/linux_is_hot.html > > Any feedback is appreciated. _______________________________________________ Oakland mailing list Oakland at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/oakland --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061010/0330944c/attachment.html From alamozzz at yahoo.com Tue Oct 10 11:18:47 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <200610100254.k9A2s1DK097931@mail0.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20061010181847.82468.qmail@web50515.mail.yahoo.com> Joseph Brenner wrote: However, as I remember it, Linuxcare discovered that things like this don't travel well outside the Bay Area. That's interesting. Doesn't say much about the world outside the Bay. I haven't seen the Linuxcare stuff. I do remember a poster where a guy is working on his Unix system and is waving-away a hot woman entering his room holding a flower bouquet anxiously hoping to interact with him. The great thing about the couple on the Linux laptop is the guy contributed a lot of code to a major open source project several years ago, and he is about to build a Linux box for her (she sounded excited about that.) I'm a big fan of "reality advertising." I have a good friend, who is very unfamiliar with computers (he has been making some progress and is much more comfortable using them now.) I built a Linux box for him 2 1/2 years ago (running SuSE Pro 9.3), which he uses for web browsing, email and occasional word processing. The computer has only experienced one problem in that time (a glitch with the Reiser file system,) and has never crashed. He has no problem using it and is quite happy with it. His previous MS Windows box was a nightmare, nothing but viruses, crashes and poor performance. He would make a great reality ad. Have fun, Adrien --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061010/336e2dd7/attachment.html From david at fetter.org Tue Oct 10 11:28:33 2006 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:28:33 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010181847.82468.qmail@web50515.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200610100254.k9A2s1DK097931@mail0.rawbw.com> <20061010181847.82468.qmail@web50515.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061010182833.GB4542@fetter.org> On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:18:47AM -0700, Adrien Lamothe wrote: > > Joseph Brenner wrote: > > However, as I remember it, Linuxcare discovered that things like > this don't travel well outside the Bay Area. It didn't even travel all that well inside the Bay Area. I know this sample isn't statistically significant, but all 10 women I talked to who saw that poster said it was at best in poor taste. Re: posters, how about illustrating some of the things you can do away from your computer because you're not piddling around with "virus protection" and "anti-spam" because it's either not applicable or automatic and just works. Cheers, D -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! From extasia at extasia.org Tue Oct 10 11:34:38 2006 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:34:38 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010175430.11338.qmail@web50504.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1160446353.452b019197c29@webmail.rawbw.com> <20061010175430.11338.qmail@web50504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4c714a9c0610101134m226103d9w644a3b4f587af7e9@mail.gmail.com> On 10/10/06, Adrien Lamothe wrote: > IBM's "Linux child" series was a > masterpiece, that had wide appeal, though non-techies must have found it > cryptic. This goes on all the time. Think of how many commercials (for this exercise, think of commercials for non-techie products/services) you've seen and say "wtf?" -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. From alamozzz at yahoo.com Tue Oct 10 11:52:05 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010182833.GB4542@fetter.org> Message-ID: <20061010185205.24572.qmail@web50511.mail.yahoo.com> David Fetter wrote:It didn't even travel all that well inside the Bay Area. I know this sample isn't statistically significant, but all 10 women I talked to who saw that poster said it was at best in poor taste. I didn't realize you associate with so many prudes, David. But then again, most of the so-called "progressives" in the Bay Area are indeed quite prudish. Question: What is a San Francisco Democrat? Answer: A disgruntled Log Cabin Republican. Cheers, Adrien --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061010/e3827ca0/attachment.html From alamozzz at yahoo.com Tue Oct 10 11:54:59 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010182833.GB4542@fetter.org> Message-ID: <20061010185459.54619.qmail@web50514.mail.yahoo.com> David Fetter wrote:Re: posters, how about illustrating some of the things you can do away from your computer because you're not piddling around with "virus protection" and "anti-spam" because it's either not applicable or automatic and just works. That is an excellent idea. - Adrien --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061010/62407653/attachment-0001.html From david at fetter.org Tue Oct 10 12:01:58 2006 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:01:58 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010185205.24572.qmail@web50511.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061010182833.GB4542@fetter.org> <20061010185205.24572.qmail@web50511.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061010190158.GF4542@fetter.org> On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:52:05AM -0700, Adrien Lamothe wrote: > > David Fetter wrote: > > It didn't even travel all that well inside the Bay Area. I know > this sample isn't statistically significant, but all 10 women I > talked to who saw that poster said it was at best in poor > taste. > > I didn't realize you associate with so many prudes, David. But > then again, most of the so-called "progressives" in the Bay Area > are indeed quite prudish. You're mistaken on many, many different counts here. Every single one of them is what they call "sex positive" in the local jargon. There's a giant difference between porn and its variants and the work place, where that stuff is totally inappropriate. That the women I know who manage to stay in technology aren't thrilled about seeing yet another unimaginative objectification is not a giant surprise. Just getting through engineering school and being out in the workplace is enough to cause a lot of them to have a pretty short fuse for this kind of nonsense. Cheers, Dave. -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! From alamozzz at yahoo.com Tue Oct 10 12:07:50 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <4c714a9c0610101134m226103d9w644a3b4f587af7e9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061010190750.55234.qmail@web50513.mail.yahoo.com> David Alban wrote:This goes on all the time. Think of how many commercials (for this exercise, think of commercials for non-techie products/services) you've seen and say "wtf?" Excellent point. Actually, that is an advertising tactic: run a provacative ad, capturing the viewers attention and interest, but don't clearly communicate exactly what it is you are advertising, yet giving them a brand, logo or phrase they will remember. The hope is that the viewer will then investigate further. I prefer advertising that is direct and clearly identifies the subject. - Adrien --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061010/e1e31d39/attachment.html From alamozzz at yahoo.com Tue Oct 10 12:18:26 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010190158.GF4542@fetter.org> Message-ID: <20061010191826.16418.qmail@web50512.mail.yahoo.com> David Fetter wrote:You're mistaken on many, many different counts here. Every single one of them is what they call "sex positive" in the local jargon. There's a giant difference between porn and its variants and the work place, where that stuff is totally inappropriate. That the women I know who manage to stay in technology aren't thrilled about seeing yet another unimaginative objectification is not a giant surprise. Just getting through engineering school and being out in the workplace is enough to cause a lot of them to have a pretty short fuse for this kind of nonsense. Ah, yes, "sex positive", another cute Bay Area PC term, just as codified as the laundry list of PC approved sexual behavior that goes along with it. I wouldn't be surprised if Good Vibrations actually registers "sex positive" as a trademark. Talk about nonsense. You must be a big hit in Berkeley, David, you wield the jingoism quite readily. Cheers, Adrien --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061010/8aa594f3/attachment.html From david at fetter.org Tue Oct 10 12:35:51 2006 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:35:51 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010191826.16418.qmail@web50512.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061010190158.GF4542@fetter.org> <20061010191826.16418.qmail@web50512.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061010193550.GI4542@fetter.org> On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 12:18:26PM -0700, Adrien Lamothe wrote: > > David Fetter wrote: > > You're mistaken on many, many different counts here. Every single one of > them is what they call "sex positive" in the local jargon. There's a giant > difference between porn and its variants and the work place, where that > stuff is totally inappropriate. That the women I know who manage to stay > in technology aren't thrilled about seeing yet another unimaginative > objectification is not a giant surprise. Just getting through engineering > school and being out in the workplace is enough to cause a lot of them to > have a pretty short fuse for this kind of nonsense. > > Ah, yes, "sex positive", another cute Bay Area PC term, just as codified as > the laundry list of PC approved sexual behavior that goes along with it. I > wouldn't be surprised if Good Vibrations actually registers "sex positive" > as a trademark. Talk about nonsense. You must be a big hit in Berkeley, > David, you wield the jingoism quite readily. As your favorite vice president said, "Go fuck yourself." Cheers, Dave. -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! From alamozzz at yahoo.com Tue Oct 10 12:40:03 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010193550.GI4542@fetter.org> Message-ID: <20061010194003.50490.qmail@web50509.mail.yahoo.com> David Fetter wrote:As your favorite vice president said, "Go fuck yourself." Ah, now there is the David we've all grown to know and love. Quite endearing. Cheers, Adrien --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Until next time-- Marsee Henon ================================================================ O'Reilly 1005 Gravenstein Highway North Sebastopol, CA 95472 http://ug.oreilly.com/ http://ug.oreilly.com/creativemedia/ ================================================================ ------------------------------------------------------- From alamozzz at yahoo.com Tue Oct 10 13:39:03 2006 From: alamozzz at yahoo.com (Adrien Lamothe) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [oak perl] Linux posters In-Reply-To: <20061010193550.GI4542@fetter.org> Message-ID: <20061010203903.39684.qmail@web50510.mail.yahoo.com> David Fetter wrote:As your favorite vice president said, "Go fuck yourself." Actually, I really like this response. It is honest, from the gut. It shows you have potential to free yourself from the PC spell trying to enslave you. I'll take it as a cry for help. You may have wandered into Lorien, brother, but there is a way out. You have the strength to do it. --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061010/610e10be/attachment.html From george at metaart.org Wed Oct 11 00:05:00 2006 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:05:00 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Test #1 (feel free to ignore) Message-ID: <200610110005.00656.george@metaart.org> I have reason to suppose at least some messages are not making it to the archive. Hence this test. From david at fetter.org Sun Oct 15 20:44:20 2006 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:44:20 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] SFPUG Meeting Thursday, October 19: PostgreSQL and .NET Message-ID: <20061016034419.GC822@fetter.org> Folks, Jon Asher will be talking about how to use PostgreSQL and .NET together. As Larry Wall said about Perl years ago, PostgreSQL competes by cooperating. :) Where: Microsoft Headquarters, San Francisco The Landmark at One Market, Suite 200 San Francisco, CA 94105 http://postgresql.meetup.com/1/venue/?venueId=180195 When: Thursday, Oct 19, 2006 7:00 PM RSVP: ASAP to david at fetter.org so you can get fed. Thanks very much to the folks at Microsoft for hosting this meeting. -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! From stella at colsearch.com Tue Oct 17 14:33:39 2006 From: stella at colsearch.com (Stella Yang) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:33:39 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Developer Job Opportunity Message-ID: Hello All, Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Stella Yang. I am a Technical Recruiter working here in San Ramon. I wanted to send out an email and see if there were any of you that were interested in picking up a contract position for a client of mine in Sunnyvale. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 1953 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/oakland/attachments/20061017/b7e01165/attachment.jpe From george at metaart.org Fri Oct 20 18:40:19 2006 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:40:19 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Fwd: Apress User Group Newsletter--Early Fall Edition Message-ID: <200610201840.19500.george@metaart.org> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Apress User Group Newsletter--Early Fall Edition Date: Friday 20 October 2006 10:05 From: Janet Crosbie ... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Apress User Group Newsletter Issue 7; Fall, 2006 ... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sections: 1. Let's Catch Up 2. Apress "firstPress" 3. The friends of ED Flash Video Contest-"Video:FLV'ED" 4. The User Group Page Has Got What You Need 5. Don't Forget the Apress SuperIndex 6. The Latest betaBooks 7. Recent Apress and friends of ED Books--Hot Off the Press 8. Forthcoming Books--Early Winter Releases 9. Upcoming Tradeshows 10. It's Not Too Late to Join the Apress Affiliate Program *************************************** 1. Let's Catch Up A. ASP Today Freeweb ASP Today, Apress's sister site, focuses on publishing professional-level articles that are available to subscribers. ASP Today has launched "Freeweb," and from now through December 2006, ASP Today will feature the two newest articles for free, so that each article will be free to view from time of publication until a newer free article publishes and converts the previous-but-one to subscriber-only viewing. Check it out today: http://asptoday.com/. ... *************************************** 2. Apress "firstPress" Apress welcomes its new firstPress series-technical briefs in PDF format about underexplored or emerging technologies that could prove critical in tomorrow's industry. firstPress documents are meant to help shape your direction as a developer and get you ahead of the game by giving you key information to budding topics as early as possible. At around 50-150 pages, firstPress documents fall somewhere between the size of an article and a traditional Apress book. And these firstPress briefings are complete works--polished and ready for perusal as soon as you download them. Please continue to visit this page, as additional firstPress briefings emerge: http://www.apress.com/ecommerce/firstpress.html. The inaugural firstPress document is "LINQ for Visual C# 2005" By Fabio Claudio Ferracchiati November 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-826-1 | 150 pages | $19.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10255 *************************************** 3. The friends of ED Flash Video Contest-"Video:FLV'ED" friends of ED (an Apress company) has been your Flash book resource since 2000. In celebration of the latest Flash title, "Foundation Flash 8 Video" (June 2006), friends of ED is hosting a contest to see what you can create by bringing video and Flash together. Your task is to simultaneously promote friends of ED and/or its books and demonstrate what the Flash platform is capable of. The grand prize is an Apple MacBook! You have until December 31, 2006, to submit your project. Please go here for more essential information about the contest: http://www.friendsofed.com/flved/. *************************************** 4. The User Group Page Has Got What You Need I receive a lot of good questions from user group leaders and members. Some of these questions already have built-in answers available on our web site, and here are some of the most common: Q: How do I and group members take advantage of the user group book discount? A: All group members** of a registered Apress user group may receive a 25% discount to any Apress or friends of ED title when the book is purchased through our distributor, Springer. (Place your order with our distributor, Springer, by calling 1-800-SPRINGER. Once you connect with a customer service representative, please mention the discount code, "APRESSUG" along with the name of your user group.) ** We apologize, but at this time, we are unable to honor this discount to user group members located outside of North and South America, Mexico, and the Caribbean. Q: May I have an Apress logo to post on our group web site? A: You may download a logo, size of your choice, here: http://www.apress.com/userGroups/logos.html. Q: Where would you like us to post online reviews of your books? A: Please read the Suggestions for Writing Apress (and friends of ED) Book Reviews page at http://www.apress.com/userGroups/writeareview.html. If you still have questions not answered on the user group page, please contact me at janet at apress.com. Thanks! *************************************** 5. Don't Forget the Apress SuperIndex If you've ever kicked yourself for not bookmarking that PDF or turning down the corner of the book with the awesome code, suffer no longer. The Apress SuperIndex is a search function that locates the keyword or code snippet you need to make your life easier. With the SuperIndex, you can quickly search for specific sentences or lines of code within a book you already own or are interested in purchasing. Usage is limited by IP. Search now at http://superindex.apress.com. *************************************** 6. The Latest betaBooks Apress betaBooks give you access to the newest programming topics straight from the author, by way of weekly PDF chapters and updates, all before the final printed versions roll off the press. Eight weeks before final publication, the first several chapters of an Apress betaBook become available. After that, available updates or new chapters are delivered weekly to your inbox. You may purchase betaBooks where you purchase other eBooks, in the Apress eBookshop. These betaBooks are a bargain because the price includes a copy of the entire finished eBook. Apress is offering these betaBooks right now: "Pro CSS Techniques" By Jeff Croft et al. November 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-732-X | 450 pages | $20.00 ($39.99 hard copy price) http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10187 "Pro JavaScript Techniques" By John Resig December 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-727-3 | 550 pages | $22.50 ($44.99 hard copy price) http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10163 "The Definitive Guide to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server" By Sander van Vugt December 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-708-7 | 725 pages | $30.00 ($59.99 hard copy price) http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10199 Learn more and purchase your betaBooks here: http://www.apress.com/betabook.html. *************************************** 7. Recent Apress and friends of ED Books-Hot Off the Press I only have a little room to feature just a sampling of our latest titles. But you can view lots more new releases here: http://www.apress.com/book/newRelease.html. "In Search of Stupidity: Over Twenty Years of High Tech Marketing Disasters, Second Edition" By Merrill R. (Rick) Chapman September 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-721-4 | 408 pages | $24.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10174 "Beginning Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition: From Novice to Professional" By Peter Wright September 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-622-6 | 544 pages | $29.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10076 "AppleScript: The Comprehensive Guide to Scripting and Automation on Mac OS X, Second Edition" By Hanaan Rosenthal September 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-653-6 | 808 pages | $59.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10107 "BizTalk 2006 Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach" By Mark Beckner et al. September 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-711-7 | 560 pages | $59.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10137 "Beginning Ajax with PHP: From Novice to Professional" By Lee Babin October 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-667-6 | 272 pages | $34.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10117 "Foundations of Jini 2 Programming" By Jan Newmarch October 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-716-8 | 512 pages | $44.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10171 *************************************** 8. Forthcoming Books-Early Winter Releases Here are a handful of titles to look forward to. Preview even more upcoming titles here: http://www.apress.com/book/forthcoming.html. "Pro BizTalk 2006" By George Dunphy and Ahmed Metwally To publish October 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-699-4 | 528 pages | $49.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10168 "How to Code .NET: Tips and Tricks for Coding .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0 Applications Effectively" By Christian Gross To publish October 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-744-3 | 232 pages | $24.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10184 "Pro Apache Struts with Ajax" By John Carnell et al. To publish October 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-738-9 | 528 pages | $44.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10180 "PHP Solutions: Dynamic Web Design Made Easy" By David Powers To publish November 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-731-1 | 435 pages | $34.99 http://friendsofed.com/book.html?isbn=1590597311 "Beginning Ruby on Rails E-Commerce: From Novice to Professional" By Christian Hellsten and Jarkko Laine To publish November 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-736-2 | 430 pages | $39.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10178 "Date on Database: Writings 2000-2006" By C. J. Date To publish November 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-746-X | 700 pages | $99.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10201 "Beginning SUSE Linux: From Novice to Professional, Second Edition" By Keir Thomas To publish November 2006 | ISBN: 1-59059-674-9 | 700 pages | $39.99 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10132 *************************************** 9. Upcoming Tradeshows Apress will be exhibiting at the following shows this fall. If you are there, please stop by and say hello! Oracle Open World San Francisco, CA October 22 - 26, 2006 http://www.oracle.com/openworld/index.html LinuxWorld London London, UK October 25 - 26, 2006 http://www.linuxworldexpo.co.uk/ Zend/PHP Conference and Expo San Jose, CA October 30 - November 2, 2006 http://zendcon06.kbconferences.com/index.php PASS Seattle, WA November 14 - 17, 2006 http://www.sqlpass.org/events/summit06/index.cfm Flash on the Beach Brighton, UK December 4 - 6, 2006 http://www.flashonthebeach.com/ *************************************** 10. It's Not Too Late to Join the Apress Affiliate Program The invitation is still open to join the Apress Affiliate Program. The program benefits web site owners and bloggers (which includes a lot of you folks) who publicly recognize Apress books and help generate sales. The program credits affiliates who link to Apress eBooks a *10% COMMISSION* on eBook sales when their visitors click through and purchase Apress eBooks. Lots of people have signed up as Apress Affiliates, and they've begun to accumulate commissions. Wouldn't you like to possibly earn some extra cash, just for promoting books you know and love? Try it out. Setup is free and an account is easy to maintain. We'll supply you with images or text links to place on your sites, if you need. Then at the beginning of every month, we'll send a check to each affiliate for the previous month's commissions. For more details and to set up an affiliate account, visit http://www.apress.com/affiliate/. *************************************** ... Please do not reply to this e-mail. Instead, e-mail info at apress.com and we'll reply to your query. Apress - The Expert's Voice(TM) 2560 Ninth St, Suite 219 Berkeley, CA 94710 510-549-5930 ------------------------------------------------------- From george at metaart.org Sat Oct 28 17:15:22 2006 From: george at metaart.org (George Woolley) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:15:22 -0700 Subject: [oak perl] Review of "Minimal Perl" Message-ID: <200610281715.22173.george@metaart.org> There is a draft of a review of "Minimal Perl: For UNIX/Linux People" by Tim Maher on our site at http://www.metaart.org/opug/reviews/manning_minperl.html I'd be especially interested in comments and corrections since * This is our first review of a Manning book. * I think this is a very important book. Thanks, George