[niederrhein.pm] Niederrhein.pm Treffen Oktober 2014 am 18:00 at LoveRails in Köln

Di Okt 21 09:38:14 PDT 2014

Hey there...

I can confirm that some people are following this mailing list just for 
the interest. :-)

I am a Niederrhein PerlMonger from the first generation and know the 
problems of motivating the group and the organizers. Everyone here who 
is interested in the group should think about doing his small 
contribution of information to let the organizers not have the feeling 
their work is "for nothing". The first generation group died because the 
core group became demotivated and noone took over the pumpkin.

At the end a part of the group joined forces with the Linux User Group 
Krefeld. (There are still two of the Mongers coming regularly to the LUG 
meetings - not talking much about Perl as I have to admit). On one hand 
this quickened the dying of the PerlMonger meeting because the LUG 
meeting "absorbed" it. On the other hand for me it was a good deal 
because my own personal focus went away from perl over the years.

We still have positive feelings to the idea of the Perl Monger group and 
I can offer you to renew parts of this cooperation. Please decide if 
this may help you or not.

Two things we might help you with are 1) a meeting place where you can 
be sure that there is someone else to talk about IT and 2) an easy to 
setup web presence.

1) The LUG-KR meets at every(!) monday 
(http://www.lug-kr.de/wiki/LugTreffen). We are about 3-5 members coming 
regularly. We talk the most time about this and that without a special 
frame or theme. Over the years we became more like a "Stammtisch". We 
meet in even weeks and in odd weeks in a different location so we have a 
more pub-like place and a place with a small room for us (the idea was 
to do a project or a talk there).

And... Hey! There is no discussion about Krefeld being in Niederrhein 
area. ;-)

2) The last "official" site of the first generation of the Niederrhein 
Perl Mongers is here: http://www.lug-kr.de/wiki/PerlMongers. This wiki 
is hosted by the LUG-KR and we will be pleased to share it with you. I 
like a wiki because the community can work together in a fast and open 
way. There is no single person holding the "golden key" (and loosing 
it). It is not the "nicest" possible website - but it is here and it can 
be used now.

When I understood right there is a meeting this evening. I hope that 
this mail will reach you and can be dicussed there.

Thanks for reading,

Thomas Bayen

Am 21.10.2014 15:21, schrieb Johannes Markert:
> Hey there!
>
> After so many heartwarming statements during the last days,
> I have to give you all at least a little response. ;-)
>
> Your maillinglist doesn't seem dead to me and I'm following -
> ' pretty sure others do as well.
>
> One comment on this meetup.com thing:
> I'm definitely not interested in registering there. Maillinglists
> just work fine for me. It is the most convinient
> way to stay in touch with a user group I can think of.
>
> What concerns me more is the shameful lack of a nice little website.
> Nothing too fancy and complicated. Just some pictures, an overview
> when and where there were the last meetings and what has been discussed
> there. This should do it. As far as I see it, our target group is not a
> big fan of social networks anyway. They (and we of course!) prefer
> the old fashioned way. Keep it simple and stupid!
> I'm looking forward to debate this with you tonight!
>
> By the way, all user groups I attended so far have the same issue
> we are discussing here in one way or the other. ;-D
>
> Cheers,
> Johannes
>
> PS: @Wendy: I cannot wait to listen to what you have to say about Perl
> 6. :-D
>
> PSS: Does anyone has any insights into Perl/TK? I have some questions
> about that.
>
> On 10/21/2014 02:18 PM, Wendy G.A. van Dijk wrote:
>> At 11:26 AM 10/21/2014, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
>> >* Peter Rabbitson <rabbit+nrpm at rabbit.us> [2014-10-18 18:10]:
>> >> In short I am not in any way married to the idea, so if most people
>> >> really *dislike* the virtually free advertisement we get through
>> >> meetup - maybe I should kill the account. I am open to ideas either
>> >> way (including handing it over/adding more orgas).
>> >
>> >FWIW since I publicly stated my lack of intention to get an account on
>> >meetup.com, I should add it is not due to any objection to the listing
>> >itself, nor to the site. (I simply dislike opening accounts in general.)
>>
>> I am with Aristotle on this.  I already have way too many accounts
>> that I hardly use (in most cases just for one specific use with low
>> traffic), and several accounts that I really really use a lot.  One
>> more would not hurt, of course, but I have been cleaning house, as in
>> closing dozens of accounts this year.
>>
>> I know very well that we could communicate a bit more on this
>> mailinglist.  We could ask people to come to the meetings with a bit
>> more pressure (as in, Perl people react to pressure in meaningful
>> ways...  eh, I mean "please please come") and we could post summaries
>> of what happened at the meeting.  We could urge people more to give
>> presentations.
>>
>> To give the right example...   I prepared a discussion topic for
>> tonight.  About Perl 6 and when it will be Christmas.  Let's see if
>> people are interested.
>>
>> See you all tonight.  Please, please, come, give a technical
>> presentation (or have a subject to discuss).
>>
>> Greetz,
>> Wendy van Dijk
>>
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mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Thomas Bayen
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