From johns at sstar.com Wed Jun 6 19:32:35 2012 From: johns at sstar.com (John Souvestre) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:32:35 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group Message-ID: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> Hi all. I've been getting more and more into Perl. I see where there used to be a user group in New Orleans. Is it still active? Thanks, John John Souvestre - Integrated Data Systems - (504) 355-0609 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johns at sstar.com Wed Jun 6 21:51:34 2012 From: johns at sstar.com (John Souvestre) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:51:34 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] [Nolug] RE: Perl User Group In-Reply-To: <20120607034427.GH2262@web0.0x743.com> References: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> <20120607034427.GH2262@web0.0x743.com> Message-ID: <008301cd4469$3997b1b0$acc71510$@sstar.com> OK. Thanks, John ??? John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nolug at stoney.kellynet.org [mailto:owner-nolug at stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of B. Estrade Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:44 pm To: nolug at nolug.org Cc: neworleans-pm at pm.org Subject: Re: [Nolug] RE: Perl User Group On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 09:32:35PM -0500, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi all. > > > > I've been getting more and more into Perl. I see where there used to > be a user group in New Orleans. Is it still active? I would say, no. Feel free to send questions to nolug or to me. Brett > > > > Thanks, > > > > John > > John Souvestre - Integrated Data Systems - (504) 355-0609 > > > ___________________ Nolug mailing list nolug at nolug.org From jkeen at verizon.net Thu Jun 7 04:48:44 2012 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:48:44 -0400 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group In-Reply-To: <004501cd4455$76640df0$632c29d0$@idsno.net> References: <004501cd4455$76640df0$632c29d0$@idsno.net> Message-ID: <4FD0951C.7050904@verizon.net> On 6/6/12 10:30 PM, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi all. > > I?ve been getting more and more into Perl. I see where there used to be > a user group in New Orleans. Is it still active? > It was more active BK, less so after. As a visitor from New York City, I gave a presentation held in the upstairs room of a coffee shop on Esplanade Ave in December 2004. I also gave a presentation at a restaurant on Frenchman St in March 2006. And, IIRC, I met with one fellow on a visit in November 2008. However, as many other Perlmonger groups have demonstrated, all it takes is two or three Perl users to get together to revive a user group, if only on a social basis. HTH Jim Keenan From djohn at archdiocese-no.org Thu Jun 7 06:08:56 2012 From: djohn at archdiocese-no.org (David B. John) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:08:56 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group In-Reply-To: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> References: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> Message-ID: On Jun 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi all. > > I?ve been getting more and more into Perl. I see where there used to be a user group in New Orleans. Is it still active? > > Thanks, > > John > Still here ;) David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joey at joeykelly.net Thu Jun 7 06:09:49 2012 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:09:49 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group In-Reply-To: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> References: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> Message-ID: <4FD0A81D.3000906@joeykelly.net> On 06/06/2012 09:32 PM, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi all. > > I?ve been getting more and more into Perl. I see where there used to be > a user group in New Orleans. Is it still active? No, but if you want to revive it, let's. -- Joey Kelly Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net 504-239-6550 From joey at joeykelly.net Thu Jun 7 09:16:22 2012 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:16:22 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group In-Reply-To: <012101cd44c5$09fd1740$1df745c0$@sstar.com> References: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> <4FD0A81D.3000906@joeykelly.net> <012101cd44c5$09fd1740$1df745c0$@sstar.com> Message-ID: <4FD0D3D6.3030203@joeykelly.net> On 06/07/2012 10:48 AM, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi Joey. > > If there is enough interest, I'm game. :) There is, so let's do it. We have a mailing list, maybe we can scrounge a place to meet... one that could double for NOLUG meetings too would be fantastic. --Joey > > John > > John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org > [mailto:neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Joey > Kelly > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 8:10 am > To: neworleans-pm at pm.org > Subject: Re: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group > > On 06/06/2012 09:32 PM, John Souvestre wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> I?ve been getting more and more into Perl. I see where there used to >> be a user group in New Orleans. Is it still active? > > No, but if you want to revive it, let's. > > > -- > Joey Kelly > Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net > 504-239-6550 > _______________________________________________ > NewOrleans-pm mailing list > NewOrleans-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm -- Joey Kelly Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net 504-239-6550 From johns at sstar.com Fri Jun 8 06:14:39 2012 From: johns at sstar.com (John Souvestre) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 08:14:39 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] [Nolug] RE: Perl User Group In-Reply-To: <20120608123738.GV2262@web0.0x743.com> References: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> <668DD394493B3043B47F75CAA37248E818F70816@CH1PRD0410MB356.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <20120608123738.GV2262@web0.0x743.com> Message-ID: <008701cd4578$abadab50$030901f0$@sstar.com> I first started learning Perl about 2 - 3 years ago. I work at an ISP and Perl seemed like the right language for scripting. Since then I've come to like it for programming, too. I'm just finishing up an application which has 14K lines of Perl. I was interested in minimizing the time to write it so I figured the higher level the language (fewer lines of code), the better. Btw - Although most of the smaller stuff I'd done in Perl was for Linux boxes, this is a user app to run on Windows. I'm using Strawberry Perl and I used pTk for the GUI stuff. pTk is a bit stale and I did find a few bugs in it, but generally it seems OK. I didn't run into many problems because of the Windows run environment. It's a nuisance that to distribute it to users around the office I have to send them a 10M PAR exe file and it takes about 30 seconds to start (unpack) the first time they run it, but that's pretty minor overall. There are some aspects of Perl which infuriate me, however. I like orthogonal, well defined environments. Perl is full of exceptions and corner cases. From what I've read about Perl 6 it seems to do away with about half the things I don't like, so I'm looking forward to it. From what I gather, it's been in the works for about 10 years, nearly dying, but seems healthy and on track now and is mostly completed. Ruby didn't attract me but Python does. Indeed, I'm still considering switching to it. I love the idea of indentation controlling the nesting rather than syntax. After all, my indentation is always correct but sometimes I forget a "}". :) But one thing scares me about Python currently. I'm not sure how stable it is. Ver 3 really isn't ready for prime time since only about 15% of the 3rd party modules are v3 compatible. Even worse, if I understand correctly, v2 modules often aren't compatible between subversions. Ouch! I understand that they have announced that starting with v3.3 they are going to stop breaking things between subversions going forward (unless absolutely necessary). Good. On the other hand, from what I've seen, code written for Perl 5.8 generally runs up through the current version (5.16). That spans about 10 years or. I like stability. :) Python has definitely reached critical mass, and Perl's popularity seems to be waning, so I plan to keep an eye on the situation. With Python getting more stable and v3 getting more support vs Perl 6 coming out I think it will be an interesting race. Or perhaps I'm deluding myself and I should start learning Java. :) John ??? John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 -----Original Message----- From: owner-nolug at stoney.kellynet.org [mailto:owner-nolug at stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of B. Estrade Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 7:38 am To: nolug at nolug.org Cc: neworleans-pm at pm.org Subject: Re: [Nolug] RE: Perl User Group On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 11:58:38AM +0000, Dustin Puryear wrote: > You know, I've used perl extensively for a lot of projects. I love it. But I do kind of feel as though it were going out of fashion for "big" solutions. It's heavily marginalized to sysadmin-level work when compared with python, ruby, etc. I can understand your feeling on this; but I think Perl is still the sneaky giant in the background (much like FreeBSD). The truth is that Perl is still responsible for generation billions (I said it) of dollars a year in revenue. Take a look at the smattering of companies that are sponsors for YAPC this year. Craigslist recently donated $100,000 to TPF; cPanel and Bookings.com each donated $10k. There is a ton of money the Perl is making people these days. http://yapcna.org/ This is a tiny smattering of companies that rely on Perl; shutterstock.com alone reported 120 million in revenue last year. cPanel has a nice income stream, though even working here I have no idea how much that is. I know they pay me every 2 weeks and keep the lights on. Perl's strength is that since it's so closely tied to Unix systems, it's the go to language for people who can build up an application server /and/ program their great idea. Python is suffering greatly these days. I've always considered it the Fortran of scripting languages. Ruby is interesting and yields a lot of great and creative projects (e.g., Puppet, Gitorious, Redmine, etc); but ultimately, it's still a minor player. The deal is that those who reach for Ruby or Python, do not know their host systems nearly as well as those who reach for Perl. Perl developers are a lot more likely to be able to set up not just a LAMP stack, but an application cluster that can scale. They likely know shell and cli better than their Python or Ruby counter parts, and this really counts when you have to get something real done. I love Perl, too; but my impression of it is that it's the ultimate scripting language for Unix systems. And I mean Perl 5. I've been around the wringer with people about why Perl 6 (which, again, I really love) will never replace Perl 5 because their direction is backwards. Unless Perl 6 is approached as an incremental goal of perl (the Perl 5 blessed interpreter) to build up to supporting, then Perl 6 implementations like rakudo will suffer the same host-os-blindness that most Python and Ruby programmers have. That's just my take. Perl rocks. It always will. Cheers, Brett > > --- > Dustin Puryear > CEO > Puryear IT, LLC - We see IT differently. > Networks - Servers - Desktops - Strategy > > Direct: 225-304-6402 | Main: 225-706-8414 | Fax: 225-308-6740 | > www.puryear-it.com > > We're always looking for highly-motivated and energetic professionals to join our team. > Join our team now: jobs.puryear-it.com > > From: owner-nolug at stoney.kellynet.org > [mailto:owner-nolug at stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of John Souvestre > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:33 PM > To: nolug at nolug.org; neworleans-pm at pm.org > Subject: [Nolug] RE: Perl User Group > > Hi all. > > I've been getting more and more into Perl. I see where there used to be a user group in New Orleans. Is it still active? > > Thanks, > > John > > John Souvestre - Integrated Data Systems - (504) 355-0609 > ___________________ Nolug mailing list nolug at nolug.org From djohn at archdiocese-no.org Fri Jun 8 06:59:39 2012 From: djohn at archdiocese-no.org (David B. John) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 08:59:39 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] [Nolug] Perl User Group In-Reply-To: <20120608123738.GV2262@web0.0x743.com> References: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> <668DD394493B3043B47F75CAA37248E818F70816@CH1PRD0410MB356.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <20120608123738.GV2262@web0.0x743.com> Message-ID: <9330F910-25EE-4207-9B45-537C9599C2D1@archdiocese-no.org> I still use perl, python & ruby; each has benefits. However, it appears they all pale in comparison to fortran ;) http://www.unlimitednovelty.com/2012/06/ruby-is-faster-than-python-php-and-perl.html DJ On Jun 8, 2012, at 7:37 AM, B. Estrade wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 11:58:38AM +0000, Dustin Puryear wrote: >> You know, I've used perl extensively for a lot of projects. I love it. But I do kind of feel as though it were going out of fashion for "big" solutions. It's heavily marginalized to sysadmin-level work when compared with python, ruby, etc. > > I can understand your feeling on this; but I think Perl is still the > sneaky giant in the background (much like FreeBSD). > > ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johns at sstar.com Fri Jun 8 15:14:21 2012 From: johns at sstar.com (John Souvestre) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:14:21 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group In-Reply-To: <4FD0D3D6.3030203@joeykelly.net> References: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> <4FD0A81D.3000906@joeykelly.net> <012101cd44c5$09fd1740$1df745c0$@sstar.com> <4FD0D3D6.3030203@joeykelly.net> Message-ID: <013201cd45c4$10f63590$32e2a0b0$@sstar.com> OK. Let's do it. I'm a little confused about the setup. Right now the list is hosted by LibrePlanet? http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Perl_User_Groups,_New_Orleans This shows Dave Cash and you as the leaders. Do you have access to whatever it takes to run the list there? Also, I don't show it listed at the Perl Mongers site. So I guess that we should renew it there, too. http://www.pm.org/ John ??? John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 -----Original Message----- From: neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org [mailto:neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Joey Kelly Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:16 am To: neworleans-pm at pm.org Subject: Re: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group On 06/07/2012 10:48 AM, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi Joey. > > If there is enough interest, I'm game. :) There is, so let's do it. We have a mailing list, maybe we can scrounge a place to meet... one that could double for NOLUG meetings too would be fantastic. --Joey > > John > > John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org > [mailto:neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of > Joey Kelly > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 8:10 am > To: neworleans-pm at pm.org > Subject: Re: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group > > On 06/06/2012 09:32 PM, John Souvestre wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> I?ve been getting more and more into Perl. I see where there used to >> be a user group in New Orleans. Is it still active? > > No, but if you want to revive it, let's. > > > -- > Joey Kelly > Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net > 504-239-6550 > _______________________________________________ > NewOrleans-pm mailing list > NewOrleans-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm -- Joey Kelly Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net 504-239-6550 _______________________________________________ NewOrleans-pm mailing list NewOrleans-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm From johns at sstar.com Fri Jun 8 15:22:24 2012 From: johns at sstar.com (John Souvestre) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:22:24 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group References: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> <4FD0A81D.3000906@joeykelly.net> <012101cd44c5$09fd1740$1df745c0$@sstar.com> <4FD0D3D6.3030203@joeykelly.net> Message-ID: <013301cd45c5$3077bdc0$91673940$@sstar.com> Or.... Should we consider having a general, any scripting language group? I don't think that there is a local group for Python but there might be one for Ruby. http://www.rubybayou.com/ It seems that they meet weekly. The website has pictures of about 100 members, it seems. John ??? John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 -----Original Message----- From: John Souvestre [mailto:johns at sstar.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 5:14 pm To: 'neworleans-pm at pm.org' Subject: RE: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group OK. Let's do it. I'm a little confused about the setup. Right now the list is hosted by LibrePlanet? http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Perl_User_Groups,_New_Orleans This shows Dave Cash and you as the leaders. Do you have access to whatever it takes to run the list there? Also, I don't show it listed at the Perl Mongers site. So I guess that we should renew it there, too. http://www.pm.org/ John ??? John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 -----Original Message----- From: neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org [mailto:neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Joey Kelly Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:16 am To: neworleans-pm at pm.org Subject: Re: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group On 06/07/2012 10:48 AM, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi Joey. > > If there is enough interest, I'm game. :) There is, so let's do it. We have a mailing list, maybe we can scrounge a place to meet... one that could double for NOLUG meetings too would be fantastic. --Joey > > John > > John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org > [mailto:neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of > Joey Kelly > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 8:10 am > To: neworleans-pm at pm.org > Subject: Re: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group > > On 06/06/2012 09:32 PM, John Souvestre wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> I?ve been getting more and more into Perl. I see where there used to >> be a user group in New Orleans. Is it still active? > > No, but if you want to revive it, let's. > > > -- > Joey Kelly > Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net > 504-239-6550 > _______________________________________________ > NewOrleans-pm mailing list > NewOrleans-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm -- Joey Kelly Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net 504-239-6550 _______________________________________________ NewOrleans-pm mailing list NewOrleans-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm From johns at sstar.com Fri Jun 8 15:24:32 2012 From: johns at sstar.com (John Souvestre) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:24:32 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group References: <005101cd4455$ceeba0f0$6cc2e2d0$@sstar.com> <4FD0A81D.3000906@joeykelly.net> <012101cd44c5$09fd1740$1df745c0$@sstar.com> <4FD0D3D6.3030203@joeykelly.net> Message-ID: <013401cd45c5$7cba4b30$762ee190$@sstar.com> P.S. Ruby: The group on Google shows only 5 posts from 1 user in 2010. John ??? John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 -----Original Message----- From: John Souvestre [mailto:johns at sstar.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 5:22 pm To: 'neworleans-pm at pm.org' Subject: RE: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group Or.... Should we consider having a general, any scripting language group? I don't think that there is a local group for Python but there might be one for Ruby. http://www.rubybayou.com/ It seems that they meet weekly. The website has pictures of about 100 members, it seems. John ??? John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 -----Original Message----- From: John Souvestre [mailto:johns at sstar.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 5:14 pm To: 'neworleans-pm at pm.org' Subject: RE: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group OK. Let's do it. I'm a little confused about the setup. Right now the list is hosted by LibrePlanet? http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Perl_User_Groups,_New_Orleans This shows Dave Cash and you as the leaders. Do you have access to whatever it takes to run the list there? Also, I don't show it listed at the Perl Mongers site. So I guess that we should renew it there, too. http://www.pm.org/ John ??? John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 -----Original Message----- From: neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org [mailto:neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Joey Kelly Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:16 am To: neworleans-pm at pm.org Subject: Re: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group On 06/07/2012 10:48 AM, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi Joey. > > If there is enough interest, I'm game. :) There is, so let's do it. We have a mailing list, maybe we can scrounge a place to meet... one that could double for NOLUG meetings too would be fantastic. --Joey > > John > > John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org > [mailto:neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of > Joey Kelly > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 8:10 am > To: neworleans-pm at pm.org > Subject: Re: [Neworleans-pm] Perl User Group > > On 06/06/2012 09:32 PM, John Souvestre wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> I?ve been getting more and more into Perl. I see where there used to >> be a user group in New Orleans. Is it still active? > > No, but if you want to revive it, let's. > > > -- > Joey Kelly > Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net > 504-239-6550 > _______________________________________________ > NewOrleans-pm mailing list > NewOrleans-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm -- Joey Kelly Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net 504-239-6550 _______________________________________________ NewOrleans-pm mailing list NewOrleans-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm From johns at sstar.com Fri Jun 8 15:37:17 2012 From: johns at sstar.com (John Souvestre) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:37:17 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Windows & .Net Message-ID: <014101cd45c7$44ec2eb0$cec48c10$@sstar.com> Hi. I'd like to post a question. The other day I wanted to call a .Net method from Perl (Strawberry Perl on Windows 7). I didn't see an easy way. I understand that Active State has out an interface but it is part of their package. I have used the Win32 and Win32::API modules for various misc things. I understand that Win32::OLE does well for OLE interfacing. I'm surprised that there isn't a generic .Net module too. Am I silly to be using Strawberry instead of Active State? About half of what I do is for Windows (more, recently) and the other half for Linux. I prefer the command line interface as I have an editor I'm comfortable with. I did try Active State a few years ago when I was just starting with Perl. I don't believe that you could use CPAN modules then, only theirs. But I understand that they have opened that up. John John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joey at joeykelly.net Fri Jun 8 17:38:12 2012 From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 19:38:12 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Windows & .Net In-Reply-To: <014101cd45c7$44ec2eb0$cec48c10$@sstar.com> References: <014101cd45c7$44ec2eb0$cec48c10$@sstar.com> Message-ID: <4FD29AF4.20901@joeykelly.net> On 06/08/2012 05:37 PM, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi. > > > > I'd like to post a question. > > > > The other day I wanted to call a .Net method from Perl (Strawberry Perl on > Windows 7). I didn't see an easy way. I understand that Active State has > out an interface but it is part of their package. I have no idea about Perl on Windows (I've heard the packages you're mentioning, but that's about all). That said, the .Nyet method you want to call, can you do it from a DOS prompt? If so, can't you simply do 'system "some DOS command here"' with Perl? --Joey > > > > I have used the Win32 and Win32::API modules for various misc things. I > understand that Win32::OLE does well for OLE interfacing. I'm surprised > that there isn't a generic .Net module too. > > > > Am I silly to be using Strawberry instead of Active State? About half of > what I do is for Windows (more, recently) and the other half for Linux. I > prefer the command line interface as I have an editor I'm comfortable with. > > > > I did try Active State a few years ago when I was just starting with Perl. > I don't believe that you could use CPAN modules then, only theirs. But I > understand that they have opened that up. > > > > John > > John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NewOrleans-pm mailing list > NewOrleans-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm -- Joey Kelly Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net 504-239-6550 From johns at sstar.com Fri Jun 8 17:41:54 2012 From: johns at sstar.com (John Souvestre) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 19:41:54 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Windows & .Net In-Reply-To: <4FD29AF4.20901@joeykelly.net> References: <014101cd45c7$44ec2eb0$cec48c10$@sstar.com> <4FD29AF4.20901@joeykelly.net> Message-ID: <016201cd45d8$ad556640$080032c0$@sstar.com> Hi Joey. .Net is Microsoft's latest API, from what I gather (I'm not a Windows system person). No, these aren't things you can do from the command line. John ??? John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 -----Original Message----- From: neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org [mailto:neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Joey Kelly Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 7:38 pm To: neworleans-pm at pm.org Subject: Re: [Neworleans-pm] Windows & .Net On 06/08/2012 05:37 PM, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi. > > > > I'd like to post a question. > > > > The other day I wanted to call a .Net method from Perl (Strawberry > Perl on Windows 7). I didn't see an easy way. I understand that > Active State has out an interface but it is part of their package. I have no idea about Perl on Windows (I've heard the packages you're mentioning, but that's about all). That said, the .Nyet method you want to call, can you do it from a DOS prompt? If so, can't you simply do 'system "some DOS command here"' with Perl? --Joey > > > > I have used the Win32 and Win32::API modules for various misc things. > I understand that Win32::OLE does well for OLE interfacing. I'm > surprised that there isn't a generic .Net module too. > > > > Am I silly to be using Strawberry instead of Active State? About half > of what I do is for Windows (more, recently) and the other half for > Linux. I prefer the command line interface as I have an editor I'm comfortable with. > > > > I did try Active State a few years ago when I was just starting with Perl. > I don't believe that you could use CPAN modules then, only theirs. > But I understand that they have opened that up. > > > > John > > John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NewOrleans-pm mailing list > NewOrleans-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm -- Joey Kelly Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant http://joeykelly.net 504-239-6550 _______________________________________________ NewOrleans-pm mailing list NewOrleans-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm From djohn at archdiocese-no.org Mon Jun 11 05:23:51 2012 From: djohn at archdiocese-no.org (David B. John) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:23:51 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Windows & .Net In-Reply-To: <014101cd45c7$44ec2eb0$cec48c10$@sstar.com> References: <014101cd45c7$44ec2eb0$cec48c10$@sstar.com> Message-ID: <47873517-3A04-43CB-A9D2-97773961CD5D@archdiocese-no.org> On Jun 8, 2012, at 5:37 PM, John Souvestre wrote: > Hi. > > I?d like to post a question. > > The other day I wanted to call a .Net method from Perl (Strawberry Perl on Windows 7). I didn?t see an easy way. I understand that Active State has out an interface but it is part of their package. > > I have used the Win32 and Win32::API modules for various misc things. I understand that Win32::OLE does well for OLE interfacing. I?m surprised that there isn?t a generic .Net module too. > > Am I silly to be using Strawberry instead of Active State? About half of what I do is for Windows (more, recently) and the other half for Linux. I prefer the command line interface as I have an editor I?m comfortable with. > > I did try Active State a few years ago when I was just starting with Perl. I don?t believe that you could use CPAN modules then, only theirs. But I understand that they have opened that up. > > John > Never used strawberry perl before. Have used Active State, it's not that bad. When I did they used ppm for modules. I never had a problem finding the packages I needed. As much as it pains me to say it, what about wrapping the .net method in a helper vb script and then calling that from perl with system, as Joey suggested, or backticks, etc? DJ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johns at sstar.com Mon Jun 11 07:09:32 2012 From: johns at sstar.com (John Souvestre) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:09:32 -0500 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Windows & .Net In-Reply-To: <47873517-3A04-43CB-A9D2-97773961CD5D@archdiocese-no.org> References: <014101cd45c7$44ec2eb0$cec48c10$@sstar.com> <47873517-3A04-43CB-A9D2-97773961CD5D@archdiocese-no.org> Message-ID: <03b201cd47db$d56f8d40$804ea7c0$@sstar.com> Hi David. I actually did the VB thing. Just hate to do it that way, however. John John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899 From: neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org [mailto:neworleans-pm-bounces+johns=sstar.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of David B. John Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 7:24 am To: neworleans-pm at pm.org Subject: Re: [Neworleans-pm] Windows & .Net On Jun 8, 2012, at 5:37 PM, John Souvestre wrote: Hi. I'd like to post a question. The other day I wanted to call a .Net method from Perl (Strawberry Perl on Windows 7). I didn't see an easy way. I understand that Active State has out an interface but it is part of their package. I have used the Win32 and Win32::API modules for various misc things. I understand that Win32::OLE does well for OLE interfacing. I'm surprised that there isn't a generic .Net module too. Am I silly to be using Strawberry instead of Active State? About half of what I do is for Windows (more, recently) and the other half for Linux. I prefer the command line interface as I have an editor I'm comfortable with. I did try Active State a few years ago when I was just starting with Perl. I don't believe that you could use CPAN modules then, only theirs. But I understand that they have opened that up. John Never used strawberry perl before. Have used Active State, it's not that bad. When I did they used ppm for modules. I never had a problem finding the packages I needed. As much as it pains me to say it, what about wrapping the .net method in a helper vb script and then calling that from perl with system, as Joey suggested, or backticks, etc? DJ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: