From estrabd at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 12:05:49 2005 From: estrabd at yahoo.com (Brett D. Estrade) Date: Thu Mar 10 12:06:09 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] what is up with NOPM? Message-ID: <1110485149.27957.218044660@webmail.messagingengine.com> The site is still down; I'll help with getting it back up if the issue is time...please let me know. Brett ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.brettsbsd.net/~estrabd From dave at gnofn.org Thu Mar 10 12:27:10 2005 From: dave at gnofn.org (Dave Cash) Date: Thu Mar 10 12:22:30 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] what is up with NOPM? In-Reply-To: <1110485149.27957.218044660@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1110485149.27957.218044660@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20050310141417.U1307@sparkie.gnofn.org> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Brett D. Estrade wrote: > The site is still down; I'll help with getting it back up if the > issue is time...please let me know. Brett, I'm sorry I didn't get back to you. Here's what's been going on. In January, pm.org was forced to relocate its hosting services. I chimed in that we would like to be moved to the new server. Our files were moved. But lo and behold, the site didn't work anymore because the new hosting space is flat-file-only (and our site depends on CGI). So I decided to move the site to a hosting space I rent with a friend. I had a little trouble figuring out how to work with WebDAV (via cadaver), since the new pm.org hosting solution doesn't even support FTP. But I got the files moved over a few weeks ago. Then I ran short on time, so I didn't have time to fix permissions, unlock all the files in the RCS repository, etc. Last Sunday I had time and fixed everything up. The site is now totally functional in its new location. I sent an e-mail to support@pm.org at the beginning of this week asking them to make the DNS change to point to our site at its new IP (which they do for groups who want to go this route). I still haven't heard back from them. Sometimes support requests take a while for them to respond to. So if you see the Forbidden message, it means the DNS still hasn't been changed. But I imagine any day now, a visit to http://neworleans.pm.org/ will show the old, familiar site, gone from us these two and a half months. In case anyone's interested, the new IP is 67.18.234.7 (if you want to tweak your hosts file to get to the site in the meantime). I apologize for not getting this done sooner. I hope to see as many of you as possible at tomorrow's meeting. It's 5:30 - 8:00, upstairs at Fair Grinds Coffeehouse, 3133 Ponce de Leon (near the soon-to-be-closing Whole Foods on Esplanade). Take care, Dave /L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\_/T\_/E\_/A\_/C\_/H\_/L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\ Dave Cash Power to the People! Frolicking in Fields of Garlic Right On-Line! dave@gnofn.org Dig it all. From estrabd at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 12:39:01 2005 From: estrabd at yahoo.com (Brett D. Estrade) Date: Thu Mar 10 12:39:21 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] what is up with NOPM? In-Reply-To: <20050310141417.U1307@sparkie.gnofn.org> References: <1110485149.27957.218044660@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20050310141417.U1307@sparkie.gnofn.org> Message-ID: <1110487141.30843.218047017@webmail.messagingengine.com> Thanks, Dave && no worries. If you have problems with the hosting again, I'd be happy to place it on my server (if it is still ticking ;) Brett On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:27:10 -0600 (CST), "Dave Cash" said: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Brett D. Estrade wrote: > > > The site is still down; I'll help with getting it back up if the > > issue is time...please let me know. > > Brett, > > I'm sorry I didn't get back to you. > > Here's what's been going on. In January, pm.org was forced to > relocate its hosting services. I chimed in that we would like to be > moved to the new server. Our files were moved. But lo and behold, > the site didn't work anymore because the new hosting space is > flat-file-only (and our site depends on CGI). > > So I decided to move the site to a hosting space I rent with a > friend. I had a little trouble figuring out how to work with > WebDAV (via cadaver), since the new pm.org hosting solution doesn't > even support FTP. But I got the files moved over a few weeks ago. > > Then I ran short on time, so I didn't have time to fix permissions, > unlock all the files in the RCS repository, etc. Last Sunday I had > time and fixed everything up. The site is now totally functional in > its new location. I sent an e-mail to support@pm.org at the > beginning of this week asking them to make the DNS change to point > to our site at its new IP (which they do for groups who want to go > this route). I still haven't heard back from them. Sometimes > support requests take a while for them to respond to. > > So if you see the Forbidden message, it means the DNS still hasn't > been changed. But I imagine any day now, a visit to > http://neworleans.pm.org/ will show the old, familiar site, gone > from us these two and a half months. > > In case anyone's interested, the new IP is 67.18.234.7 (if you want > to tweak your hosts file to get to the site in the meantime). > > I apologize for not getting this done sooner. > > I hope to see as many of you as possible at tomorrow's meeting. > It's 5:30 - 8:00, upstairs at Fair Grinds Coffeehouse, 3133 Ponce de > Leon (near the soon-to-be-closing Whole Foods on Esplanade). > > Take care, > > Dave > > /L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\_/T\_/E\_/A\_/C\_/H\_/L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\ > Dave Cash Power to the People! > Frolicking in Fields of Garlic Right On-Line! > dave@gnofn.org Dig it all. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.brettsbsd.net/~estrabd From jkeen at verizon.net Thu Mar 10 19:11:10 2005 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James Keenan) Date: Thu Mar 10 19:11:24 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] First Digest in Months In-Reply-To: <20050310202231.199A217770@x6.develooper.com> References: <20050310202231.199A217770@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: Today I got my first mailing of the digest version of the New Orleans.pm mailing list since my visit in December! http://neworleans.pm.org/ still generates a forbidden as of 5 minutes before the posting of this message. But http://67.18.234.7/ tells all about "Asphalt Adventures": The unashamed stories of two women on the lam! Now that's *my* kind of .pm-group! Jim Keenan From EmailLists at SimonDorfman.com Thu Mar 10 22:34:19 2005 From: EmailLists at SimonDorfman.com (Simon Dorfman) Date: Thu Mar 10 22:34:30 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] what is up with NOPM? In-Reply-To: <20050310141417.U1307@sparkie.gnofn.org> Message-ID: On 3/10/05 2:27 PM, "Dave Cash" wrote: > I hope to see as many of you as possible at tomorrow's meeting. > It's 5:30 - 8:00, upstairs at Fair Grinds Coffeehouse, 3133 Ponce de > Leon (near the soon-to-be-closing Whole Foods on Esplanade). I'll be there. Unless something's already planned, maybe we could check out Catalyst [1] as a contrast to what we learned about RubyOnRails [2] last time. Simon -- [1] http://cpansearch.perl.org/~sri/Catalyst-4.00/lib/Catalyst/Manual/Intro.pod [2] http://www.rubyonrails.com/ From estrabd at yahoo.com Sun Mar 13 12:22:17 2005 From: estrabd at yahoo.com (Brett D. Estrade) Date: Sun Mar 13 12:22:26 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] new meeting day suggestion Message-ID: <1110745337.9151.218219475@webmail.messagingengine.com> I've been wanting to come to a meeting for a long time now, but Friday evenings are really bad for me. I often come to the Fair Grinds on Sundays to study, and it occurred to me that others may find Sundays for the meetings better as well. Thoughts? Thanks, Brett ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.brettsbsd.net/~estrabd From dave at gnofn.org Mon Mar 14 07:06:33 2005 From: dave at gnofn.org (Dave Cash) Date: Mon Mar 14 07:01:22 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] new meeting day suggestion In-Reply-To: <1110745337.9151.218219475@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1110745337.9151.218219475@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20050314090405.W94077@sparkie.gnofn.org> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Brett D. Estrade wrote: > I've been wanting to come to a meeting for a long time now, but Friday > evenings are really bad for me. I often come to the Fair Grinds on > Sundays to study, and it occurred to me that others may find Sundays for > the meetings better as well. > > Thoughts? I'm sorry Fridays aren't good for you, Brett. Personally, Fridays are better for me than Sundays, but I'm not inflexible if the group wishes to move the date. Whether or not Fair Grinds has availability for us to meet on Sunday nights is another question. If the group decides to move in that direction, then I can talk to Robert. Dave /L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\_/T\_/E\_/A\_/C\_/H\_/L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\ Dave Cash Power to the People! Frolicking in Fields of Garlic Right On-Line! dave@gnofn.org Dig it all. From dave at gnofn.org Thu Mar 17 13:15:38 2005 From: dave at gnofn.org (Dave Cash) Date: Thu Mar 17 13:10:26 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Site Back Up! Message-ID: <20050317151432.G94077@sparkie.gnofn.org> Hello, New Orleans Perl Mongers, The DNS change has apparently been made and the site is now back up and running for your wiki'ing pleasure. Thanks for your patience and sorry for the long delay in getting it restored. Take care, Dave /L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\_/T\_/E\_/A\_/C\_/H\_/L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\ Dave Cash Power to the People! Frolicking in Fields of Garlic Right On-Line! dave@gnofn.org Dig it all. From estrabd at yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 13:21:23 2005 From: estrabd at yahoo.com (Brett D. Estrade) Date: Thu Mar 17 13:21:41 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Site Back Up! In-Reply-To: <20050317151432.G94077@sparkie.gnofn.org> References: <20050317151432.G94077@sparkie.gnofn.org> Message-ID: <1111094483.23693.218587691@webmail.messagingengine.com> Thanks, Dave. If anyone has summaries for the unsummarized meetings, I'll gladly post them if they are sent to me.. Brett On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:15:38 -0600 (CST), "Dave Cash" said: > Hello, New Orleans Perl Mongers, > > The DNS change has apparently been made and the site is now back up > and running for your wiki'ing pleasure. > > Thanks for your patience and sorry for the long delay in getting it > restored. > > Take care, > > Dave > > /L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\_/T\_/E\_/A\_/C\_/H\_/L\_/E\_/A\_/R\_/N\ > Dave Cash Power to the People! > Frolicking in Fields of Garlic Right On-Line! > dave@gnofn.org Dig it all. > _______________________________________________ > NewOrleans-pm mailing list > NewOrleans-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.brettsbsd.net/~estrabd From glim at mycybernet.net Sat Mar 19 12:00:00 2005 From: glim at mycybernet.net (glim@mycybernet.net) Date: Sat Mar 19 12:27:26 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, 2005 Registration now open Message-ID: ----------> Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, 2005 Registration now open. Conference dates: Monday - Wednesday 27 - 29 June 2005 Location: 89 Chestnut Street http://89chestnut.com/ University of Toronto Toronto, Ontario, Canada Info at: http://yapc.org/America Direct registration: http://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=registrant%20info&conference_id=423 Full registration fee $85 (USD) Book now for great deals on accommodations and ensure a space for yourself. Speaking slots are still open. If you would like to present at YAPC::NA 2005, see: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml Details of this announcement: http://yapc.org/America/registration-announcement-2005.txt <---------- More Details ============ Registration for YAPC::NA (Yet Another Perl Conference, North America) 2005 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada is now open. The conference registration price is USD$85. This price includes admission to all aspects of the conference, respectable amounts of catering, several activities and a few conference goodies. The YAPC North America 2005 conference features... * Fantastic speakers + most are the core creators of the technology on which they present + many are professional IT authors, trainers and conference speakers * An excellent learning opportunity * A chance to meet Perl professionals from all over North America and the world + YAPC attendees tend to be very involved in Perl and so are another great way to learn more about what the language has to offer beyond just what the speakers have to say * Extra-curricular / after hours activities * A great location in downtown Toronto All this, and the price is more than an order of magnitude cheaper than what commercial conferences can offer. This is because YAPC is a 100% volunteer effort, both from its organizers and its speakers. Quality is *not* sacrificed to achieve this stunning level of affordability. YAPC provides the best value-for-dollar in IT conferences. And it's a ton of fun, too. The dates of the conference are Monday - Wednesday 27-29 June 2005. The location is 89 Chestnut Street in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Note that a different date block was previously announced; we moved the conference date to accommodate venue availability.) http://89chestnut.com/ -- a facility within the University of Toronto If you are at all interested in attending the conference... Book now! Book now! Book now! We have room for about 400 attendees and we hope to sell out well in advance of the late June conference date. However, the critical matter is that of hotels. The YAPC::NA 2005 organizers have made group arrangements with several facilities around the city to provide _excellent_ quality accommodations in _very_ convenient locations at _terrific_ prices for the _full_ capacity of conference attendees (around 400 people). (Finding, booking and paying accommodations is the responsibility of the attendees, but we will provide you with a list of the hotels and university dorms to try first based on our group arrangement with them when you register for the conference. Also, see the web site at http://yapc.org/America/accommodations-2005.shtml. More details will be up shortly. The dorm option will be approx. C$55/night, the hotel options will be more like C$90/night, and for slightly different prices there will be options for putting more than 1 person in a room. Exact details and how to book will be emailed directly to people who have registered for the conference as soon as they become available.) *The catch is -- book now!!* The group reservations will expire in early May, at which point in time the group rates will mostly still apply, but the rooms will be given out on an "availability basis". Which means that someone else outside of the YAPC group can book the rooms as well. Make no mistake -- the rooms *will* be sold. Toronto is a very active conference city in the summer and there will be _no_ guarantee of vacancies either at the facilities we made arrangements with or anywhere else in the city if you leave it to within 6 weeks of the conference date. So, if you want to save yourself the likely-fruitless headache of scrambling around looking for accommodations at the last minute, Book now! Book now! Book now! Have any questions? Email na-help@yapc.org for more details. Additionally, we are still welcoming submissions for proposals via: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml The close of the call-for-papers is April 18, 2005 at 11:59 pm (Toronto time). If you have any questions regarding the call-for-papers or speaking at YAPC::NA 2005 please email na-author@yapc.org We would love to hear from potential sponsors. Please contact the organizers at na-sponsor@yapc.org to learn about the benefits of sponsorship. From stigliz at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 15:05:38 2005 From: stigliz at gmail.com (Amedeo Guffanti) Date: Tue Mar 22 15:05:53 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Reseach on Open Source Developers Message-ID: Hi, I'm Amedeo Guffanti, a 22 years old Italian student at Bocconi university in Milan, I' m doing a research to write a work about Open Source Movement, in particular, about the developers. I try to collect the opinions of developers like you. My little poll is at this page : http://www.alberocavo.com/OSSprojects.asp It takes less then 4 minutes. I hope the Open Source Communities will give me a help for my research. I apologize for taking your time and for my English that I hope it's understandable ^^ Sincerly, Amedeo Guffanti From estrabd at yahoo.com Tue Mar 22 17:49:29 2005 From: estrabd at yahoo.com (Brett D. Estrade) Date: Tue Mar 22 17:49:39 2005 Subject: [Neworleans-pm] Reseach on Open Source Developers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1111542569.24133.230199801@webmail.messagingengine.com> Ok, I did it, but I thought it was interesting the voting app is written in ASP. Brett On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:05:38 +0100, "Amedeo Guffanti" said: > Hi, > I'm Amedeo Guffanti, > a 22 years old Italian student at Bocconi university in Milan, > > I' m doing a research to write a work about Open Source Movement, in > particular, about the developers. > > I try to collect the opinions of developers like you. > > My little poll is at this page : > > http://www.alberocavo.com/OSSprojects.asp > > It takes less then 4 minutes. > > I hope the Open Source Communities will give me a help for my research. > > I apologize for taking your time and for my English that I hope it's > understandable ^^ > > Sincerly, > Amedeo Guffanti > _______________________________________________ > NewOrleans-pm mailing list > NewOrleans-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/neworleans-pm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.brettsbsd.net/~estrabd