From autarch at urth.org Mon Oct 1 21:16:14 2007 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:16:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Saturday night venue for Frozen Perl Message-ID: We want to find a place that serves alcohol and can easily accomodate 60-100 people, _without_ requiring us to pay for a private room. So far the ideas we've come up with are: * Gameworks * Dave & Buster's * one of the bars at Mall of America (aka Hell) Ideas we've discarded: * Sally's Being close to the Mpls UMN campus is good, as is available parking. Anyone have other ideas? -dve /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From autarch at urth.org Mon Oct 1 21:17:01 2007 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:17:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Speakers at Frozen Perl Message-ID: I'm kind of bummed that almost no one from our local group has submitted any talks. C'mon, folks, I'm sure many of you have 20 minutes on something in you! Maybe you're all just waiting til the last minute to make us sweat ;) -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From kenahoo at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 19:14:55 2007 From: kenahoo at gmail.com (Ken Williams) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:14:55 -0400 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Speakers at Frozen Perl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FED5A16-5A45-4EE6-AFC1-D13B9EE550DD@gmail.com> On Oct 2, 2007, at 12:17 AM, Dave Rolsky wrote: > I'm kind of bummed that almost no one from our local group has > submitted > any talks. C'mon, folks, I'm sure many of you have 20 minutes on > something > in you! > > Maybe you're all just waiting til the last minute to make us sweat ;) I'm planning to submit at least one talk, but I haven't figured out what yet. And yes, I always wait until the last minute. =) -Ken From look at recursion.org Thu Oct 4 20:52:09 2007 From: look at recursion.org (Luke Francl) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:52:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] [ANN] MinneDemo, Oct 11. Demos, networking & beer Message-ID: <20071004225117.D60735@shell.dopp.net> Dear Perl mongers, I'm helping organize an event called MinneDemo for local tech professionals to network and show off the software they've been working on. See: http://minnedemo.org The event is free and should be a good time. Thanks and hope to see you there, Luke Francl co-organizer, MinneDemo -------------- Mark your calendars and tell your friends: MinneDemo is happening Thursday, October 11th, starting at 6:30pm. http://minnedemo.org MinneDemo is the premier Twin Cities networking and demo event for developers and entrepreneurs. MinneDemo will be held at O'Gara's Garage (164 Snelling Ave N, St. Paul). Due to the tremendous growth of MinneDemo, we've secured a much larger space for this event. For concerts, the fire-marshall capacity is -- yikes! -- 600, so overcrowding shouldn't be an issue. With the extra room we've significantly upped the free-drink budget to encourage attendance: The first 200 people to arrive will receive two drink tickets. Trade a drink ticket for a tap beer, a bottled beer or soda. Cash bar for hard liquor, mixed drinks and wine. The drinks come courtesy of our sponsors, all of whom also sponsored MinneBar last April. Sponsoring these events time-and-again demonstrates that these folks are serious about our community, so seek them out and thank them. They are: Kinetic Data - http://kineticdata.com Splitrock Partners - http://splitrock.com New Counsel - http://newcounsel.com ipHouse - http://iphouse.com Electric Pulp - http://electricpulp.com The presentation format will be unchanged: six 15 minute presentations, real working software, and no bullet points! The six slots have been filled for this event, but if you want to present, be sure to sign up on the waiting list in case one opens up, and to get first dibs on the next event (be sure to leave your contact info!). Please RSVP at http://minnedemo.org Thanks, Dan Grigsby and Luke Francl From look at recursion.org Thu Oct 4 21:00:20 2007 From: look at recursion.org (Luke Francl) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:00:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Saturday night venue for Frozen Perl Message-ID: <20071004225416.C60735@shell.dopp.net> Dave, As an organizer, I can tell you that finding a venue is the hardest thing we have to deal will to put on MinneBar/MinneDemo. Here's a couple venue's we've used that we were able to get for "free" with an appropriately sized drink/food buy. Chaing Mai Thai in Uptown has a private room that fits 100. We got it for $500 worth of appetizers. Acadia Cafe at Nicollet and Franklin has a nice room (and great beer). We rent it for the Ruby Users of Minnesota meetings for $50 (on a Monday, though.) For the last MinneDemo, we got it for $1000 worth of drinks. I don't know if you have any kind of sponsor money to work with, but we've found offering a guaranteed buy a good way to get off without paying to rent a room. None of these places are near the U, but hopefully it's at least somewhat helpful. Luke From autarch at urth.org Thu Oct 4 21:33:56 2007 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:33:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Saturday night venue for Frozen Perl In-Reply-To: <20071004225416.C60735@shell.dopp.net> References: <20071004225416.C60735@shell.dopp.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Luke Francl wrote: > I don't know if you have any kind of sponsor money to work with, but we've > found offering a guaranteed buy a good way to get off without paying > to rent a room. We do have some sponsor money, but funding this is a bit a far down the last, since we want to do things like have food and drinks at the workshop before we start spending on the social event. > None of these places are near the U, but hopefully it's at least somewhat > helpful. They're not _too_ far either. A big problem with Acadia might be parking though. Chiang Mai Thai is terrible food, IMHO, but the parking is pretty convenient at least, so that might work well. -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From look at recursion.org Fri Oct 5 07:57:04 2007 From: look at recursion.org (Luke Francl) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:57:04 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Saturday night venue for Frozen Perl In-Reply-To: References: <20071004225416.C60735@shell.dopp.net> Message-ID: <20071005095428.X79274@shell.dopp.net> On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Dave Rolsky wrote: > They're not _too_ far either. A big problem with Acadia might be parking > though. Chiang Mai Thai is terrible food, IMHO, but the parking is pretty > convenient at least, so that might work well. Actually, Acadia patrons can use the Plymouth Church lot across the street. http://acadiacafe.com/index.php?contentID=828 Agree to disagree on Chiang Mai Thai's food. ;-) Luke From lecar_red at yahoo.com Tue Oct 9 09:03:11 2007 From: lecar_red at yahoo.com (Lee Carmichael) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Amazon Web Services Presentation Message-ID: <952161.18894.qm@web31401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, I ran across information that Mike Culver (I guess he's an Amazon Web Evangelist) is going to be in town the last week of April in 2008. Should we ask him to come do a presentation for us? I would be interested in it. Any else? http://evangelists.wetpaint.com/page/Mike+Culver+Minnesota+April+2008 Take Care, Lee From autarch at urth.org Tue Oct 9 09:19:32 2007 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:19:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Amazon Web Services Presentation In-Reply-To: <952161.18894.qm@web31401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <952161.18894.qm@web31401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Lee Carmichael wrote: > I ran across information that Mike Culver (I guess he's an Amazon Web > Evangelist) is going to be in town the last week of April in 2008. > Should we ask him to come do a presentation for us? I would be > interested in it. Any else? > > http://evangelists.wetpaint.com/page/Mike+Culver+Minnesota+April+2008 I think this would be very interesting, but I'm not sure he needs to do a _separate_ presentation for us. Couldn't we just go the RoR group's meeting? -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From lecar_red at yahoo.com Tue Oct 9 09:59:21 2007 From: lecar_red at yahoo.com (Lee Carmichael) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Amazon Web Services Presentation Message-ID: <91387.22394.qm@web31414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> But what about the fist fights! :) We certainly could do that. He might do something more around the Perl interface for EC2, on Perl's internal use at Amazon or combination ( I'm just guessing here). I dropped him a note to see what he thinks. Also, it might be a good way to get some more people out to a meeting. ----- Original Message ---- From: Dave Rolsky To: Mpls-pm at pm.org Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 11:19:32 AM Subject: Re: [Mpls-pm] Amazon Web Services Presentation On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Lee Carmichael wrote: > I ran across information that Mike Culver (I guess he's an Amazon Web > Evangelist) is going to be in town the last week of April in 2008. > Should we ask him to come do a presentation for us? I would be > interested in it. Any else? > > http://evangelists.wetpaint.com/page/Mike+Culver+Minnesota+April+2008 I think this would be very interesting, but I'm not sure he needs to do a _separate_ presentation for us. Couldn't we just go the RoR group's meeting? -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ _______________________________________________ Mpls-pm mailing list Mpls-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm From peter at peknet.com Tue Oct 9 12:39:00 2007 From: peter at peknet.com (Peter Karman) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:39:00 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] [Fwd: [tcphp] We challenge you to help us give back!] Message-ID: <470BD8D4.30801@peknet.com> Sounds like a fun project, and they are offering free hosting to projects in Perl. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [tcphp] We challenge you to help us give back! Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:46:12 -0500 From: Thomas O'Neill To: talk at tcphp.org Hey everyone, I am very excited to announce an event we are organizing in order to help non-profit organizations around Minnesota. Sierra Bravo is holding a 24 hour development competition building websites for Minnesota non-profits. Check out the link below for more information and please register to help us give back to our local community. http://www.f1webchallenge.com/ -- Tom O'Neill tommyo at gmail.com -- Peter Karman . peter at peknet.com . http://peknet.com/ From matt at omega.org Tue Oct 9 16:03:59 2007 From: matt at omega.org (Matthew Johnson) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:03:59 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] tomorrow Message-ID: <1191971039.1273.1215034509@webmail.messagingengine.com> So is there a perl monger meeting tomorrow? -- Matthew Johnson Software Consultant Minneapolis, MN -- USA matt at omega.org From autarch at urth.org Thu Oct 18 20:11:10 2007 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:11:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Frozen Perl CFS ends in 5 days Message-ID: Yes, just five days. That means there's no reason not to submit a proposal _right now_, as opposed to in 5 days. Check out http://www.frozen-perl.org/mpw2008/cfs.html for details. Submissions close on Tuesday, October 23 @ midnight or thereabouts. -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From kenahoo at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 20:18:20 2007 From: kenahoo at gmail.com (Ken Williams) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:18:20 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Frozen Perl CFS ends in 5 days In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9EC296EE-CCAB-4590-ADBB-932733E0FE09@gmail.com> On Oct 18, 2007, at 10:11 PM, Dave Rolsky wrote: > Yes, just five days. That means there's no reason not to submit a > proposal > _right now_, as opposed to in 5 days. > > Check out http://www.frozen-perl.org/mpw2008/cfs.html for details. > Submissions close on Tuesday, October 23 @ midnight or thereabouts. Don't say "thereabouts" to me or I'll interpret it as sometime after Thanksgiving. =) I'm interested in proposing talk(s), I wonder if I could get some feedback from the hosting group on what people are interested in, and/ or suggestions for how to approach certain topics. 1) What Module::Build is, and what its original (and modified) design goals were (are), and how it's panning out 2) How File::Spec is impossibly hard to use and how Path::Class can help 3) How cool and different R (http://www.r-project.org) is, and how weird its OO system is, and how you can use R and Perl together -Ken From autarch at urth.org Mon Oct 22 08:54:21 2007 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:54:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Frozen Perl CFS ends in 5 days In-Reply-To: <9EC296EE-CCAB-4590-ADBB-932733E0FE09@gmail.com> References: <9EC296EE-CCAB-4590-ADBB-932733E0FE09@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, Ken Williams wrote: > 1) What Module::Build is, and what its original (and modified) > design goals were (are), and how it's panning out > > 2) How File::Spec is impossibly hard to use and how Path::Class can > help > > 3) How cool and different R (http://www.r-project.org) is, and how > weird its OO system is, and how you can use R and Perl together Personally, I like the first two more than the third. The third might be good if we have the right audience attending, but I don't know if we will. -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From peter at peknet.com Mon Oct 22 08:57:03 2007 From: peter at peknet.com (Peter Karman) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:57:03 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Frozen Perl CFS ends in 5 days In-Reply-To: <9EC296EE-CCAB-4590-ADBB-932733E0FE09@gmail.com> References: <9EC296EE-CCAB-4590-ADBB-932733E0FE09@gmail.com> Message-ID: <471CC84F.6090906@peknet.com> On 10/21/2007 10:18 PM, Ken Williams wrote: > 1) What Module::Build is, and what its original (and modified) > design goals were (are), and how it's panning out > > 2) How File::Spec is impossibly hard to use and how Path::Class can > help > > 3) How cool and different R (http://www.r-project.org) is, and how > weird its OO system is, and how you can use R and Perl together > I like #1 and #2, having been confused by Module::Build in the past, and being a Big Fan of Path::Class. I use the latter at $work every day. -- Peter Karman . peter at peknet.com . http://peknet.com/ From ian at indecorous.com Mon Oct 22 09:44:37 2007 From: ian at indecorous.com (Ian Malpass) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:44:37 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Frozen Perl CFS ends in 5 days In-Reply-To: <9EC296EE-CCAB-4590-ADBB-932733E0FE09@gmail.com> References: <9EC296EE-CCAB-4590-ADBB-932733E0FE09@gmail.com> Message-ID: <471CD375.5090304@indecorous.com> Ken Williams wrote: > I'm interested in proposing talk(s), I wonder if I could get some > feedback from the hosting group on what people are interested in, and/ > or suggestions for how to approach certain topics. > > 1) What Module::Build is, and what its original (and modified) > design goals were (are), and how it's panning out *cough* > 2) How File::Spec is impossibly hard to use and how Path::Class can > help > > 3) How cool and different R (http://www.r-project.org) is, and how > weird its OO system is, and how you can use R and Perl together If I remember correctly, the theme was "Practical Perl", so I'd opt for 1 or 2, and probably 2 for preference, given that I'd estimate more people need to munge filenames than build module distributions. And if 1 then probably more "how to use it" rather than "what we're trying to do achieve with it". Ian From autarch at urth.org Mon Oct 22 14:59:37 2007 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:59:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Frozen Perl 2008 Call for Speakers closes tomorrow night Message-ID: There's a little more than 24 hours left in the Frozen Perl 2008 Call for Speakers (http://www.frozen-perl.org/mpw2008/cfs.html). If you've been putting your submission off to the last minute, that last minute is fast approaching. Submissions close at midnight (America/Central) on Tuesday, October 23. If you're on the fence about submitting a proposal, we really hope you do submit something. More proposals gives us more choice, and we really want to encourage new, interesting topics, and new, interesting speakers. -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ From lecar_red at yahoo.com Tue Oct 23 12:16:01 2007 From: lecar_red at yahoo.com (Lee Carmichael) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mpls-pm] Amazon Web Services Presentation Message-ID: <206321.1907.qm@web31414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, I meant to send this a week or two ago :) Mike will do the same presentation at either meeting. He is willing to do a presentation on Tuesday or Wednesday (if we can get enough people for wednesday). Maybe we could have him as part of a night of presentations/lighting talks. I don't have a problem with going to the Ruby's group meeting but Monday's are tougher for me to get a sitter for the kids. I know Dave is ok with going over there but I did have several people email with interest. Also, he is talking to the local Cold Fusion user group. Thoughts? Lee ----- Original Message ---- From: Lee Carmichael To: Mpls-pm at pm.org Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 11:59:21 AM Subject: Re: [Mpls-pm] Amazon Web Services Presentation But what about the fist fights! :) We certainly could do that. He might do something more around the Perl interface for EC2, on Perl's internal use at Amazon or combination ( I'm just guessing here). I dropped him a note to see what he thinks. Also, it might be a good way to get some more people out to a meeting. ----- Original Message ---- From: Dave Rolsky To: Mpls-pm at pm.org Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 11:19:32 AM Subject: Re: [Mpls-pm] Amazon Web Services Presentation On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Lee Carmichael wrote: > I ran across information that Mike Culver (I guess he's an Amazon Web > Evangelist) is going to be in town the last week of April in 2008. > Should we ask him to come do a presentation for us? I would be > interested in it. Any else? > > http://evangelists.wetpaint.com/page/Mike+Culver+Minnesota+April+2008 I think this would be very interesting, but I'm not sure he needs to do a _separate_ presentation for us. Couldn't we just go the RoR group's meeting? -dave /*=================================================== VegGuide.Org www.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===================================================*/ _______________________________________________ Mpls-pm mailing list Mpls-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm _______________________________________________ Mpls-pm mailing list Mpls-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-pm From kenahoo at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 13:54:54 2007 From: kenahoo at gmail.com (Ken Williams) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:54:54 -0500 Subject: [Mpls-pm] Frozen Perl CFS ends in 5 days In-Reply-To: <471CD375.5090304@indecorous.com> References: <9EC296EE-CCAB-4590-ADBB-932733E0FE09@gmail.com> <471CD375.5090304@indecorous.com> Message-ID: <95546154-09A2-46FC-9F90-ADE99FA52FF1@gmail.com> On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Ian Malpass wrote: > Ken Williams wrote: > >> 1) What Module::Build is, and what its original (and modified) >> design goals were (are), and how it's panning out > > Mon-20071015/010586.html> > > *cough* Oy, that hurts! =( Thanks for pointing it out though. -Ken