From patm at visi.com Tue Oct 9 09:39:04 2001 From: patm at visi.com (Patrick J. McNamee) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: old mailing list turned off Message-ID: <20011009093904.A27803@isis.visi.com> I've turned off the old mailing list. pm -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From Matthew.Johnson at Ingenix.com Tue Oct 9 10:07:33 2001 From: Matthew.Johnson at Ingenix.com (Matthew Johnson) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: old mailing list turned off Message-ID: <5DD31A171181D31184A100508B5ED9890220B5A4@MSP0-MSX1.Ingenix.com> Hey Pat. The new list seems to be working. This new address of mpls@pm.org is easy to remember. I'm ready for the next meeting already. -Matt -----Original Message----- From: Patrick J. McNamee [mailto:patm@visi.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:39 AM To: mpls@pm.org Subject: [mplspm]: old mailing list turned off I've turned off the old mailing list. pm -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From Mark_Conty at cargill.com Wed Oct 10 09:18:31 2001 From: Mark_Conty at cargill.com (Mark Conty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Tips for building an *.xs module? Message-ID: <200110101418.JAA22582@w408lynx.grain.cargill.com> Hi -- I'm 'bout to embark on building an *.xs module for a set of an HP-provided library functions that we use here at work. Up until now, I've been calling these routines with system() or open(PIPE,...), but I want to take advantage of these library routines instead, to keep from having to spawn subordinate shell processes unnecessarily. I'm starting to read through the 'perlxstut' man page, and I know about the 'perlxs' and 'h2xs' man pages, but I thought I'd check if any of you have done this kind of thing recently and could pass along any tips/pointers. Thanks! -- Mark Conty APS/NAGO IT Group Server Team - MS 64 952-984-0503 -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From troyd at pobox.com Wed Oct 10 09:30:09 2001 From: troyd at pobox.com (Troy DeJongh) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Tips for building an *.xs module? In-Reply-To: <200110101418.JAA22582@w408lynx.grain.cargill.com> Message-ID: <20011010093009.A28446@msp-65-29-50-112.mn.rr.com> Mark Conty wrote: > Hi -- > > I'm 'bout to embark on building an *.xs module for a set of an HP-provided > library functions that we use here at work. Up until now, I've been calling > these routines with system() or open(PIPE,...), but I want to take advantage > of these library routines instead, to keep from having to spawn subordinate > shell processes unnecessarily. > > I'm starting to read through the 'perlxstut' man page, and I know about the > 'perlxs' and 'h2xs' man pages, but I thought I'd check if any of you have > done this kind of thing recently and could pass along any tips/pointers. Mark, Swig will get you where you wanna be in no time (that is, if my assessment of what you're trying to do is correct). Check out: http://www.swig.org Take care. --Troy -- Troy DeJongh http://pobox.com/~troyd -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From dion at almaer.com Wed Oct 10 09:48:08 2001 From: dion at almaer.com (Dion Almaer) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Tips for building an *.xs module? In-Reply-To: <20011010093009.A28446@msp-65-29-50-112.mn.rr.com> Message-ID: Yes. Have SWIG do the work for you, since you are just wrapping C functions that already exist. I personally think that embedding Perl, or wrapping C is way more difficult that it should be. If you look at how Python does it, you realise how clean it could be. Hopefully this is where Perl 6 is going right? ;) Thankfully the SWIG folks did the hard work for you :) D > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mpls@pm.org [mailto:owner-mpls@pm.org]On Behalf Of Troy > DeJongh > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 8:30 AM > To: mpls@pm.org > Subject: Re: [mplspm]: Tips for building an *.xs module? > > > Mark Conty wrote: > > Hi -- > > > > I'm 'bout to embark on building an *.xs module for a set of an HP-provided > > library functions that we use here at work. Up until now, I've been calling > > these routines with system() or open(PIPE,...), but I want to take advantage > > of these library routines instead, to keep from having to spawn subordinate > > shell processes unnecessarily. > > > > I'm starting to read through the 'perlxstut' man page, and I know about the > > 'perlxs' and 'h2xs' man pages, but I thought I'd check if any of you have > > done this kind of thing recently and could pass along any tips/pointers. > > Mark, > > Swig will get you where you wanna be in no time (that is, if my > assessment of what you're trying to do is correct). Check out: > > http://www.swig.org > > > Take care. > > --Troy > > -- > Troy DeJongh http://pobox.com/~troyd > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. > -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From thomas at stderr.net Wed Oct 10 10:19:11 2001 From: thomas at stderr.net (Thomas Eibner) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Tips for building an *.xs module? In-Reply-To: <200110101418.JAA22582@w408lynx.grain.cargill.com>; from Mark_Conty@cargill.com on Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 09:18:31AM -0500 References: <200110101418.JAA22582@w408lynx.grain.cargill.com> Message-ID: <20011010171911.F14062@io.stderr.net> On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 09:18:31AM -0500, Mark Conty wrote: > Hi -- > > I'm 'bout to embark on building an *.xs module for a set of an HP-provided > library functions that we use here at work. Up until now, I've been calling > these routines with system() or open(PIPE,...), but I want to take advantage > of these library routines instead, to keep from having to spawn subordinate > shell processes unnecessarily. > > I'm starting to read through the 'perlxstut' man page, and I know about the > 'perlxs' and 'h2xs' man pages, but I thought I'd check if any of you have > done this kind of thing recently and could pass along any tips/pointers. xs is far to difficult to get started with, did you try looking at Inline::C? It's dead-easy for embedding C in Perl. -- Thomas Eibner DnsZone mod_pointer -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From ken at mathforum.org Fri Oct 12 01:28:45 2001 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Person finder Message-ID: <26233212.1002850125@[0.0.0.0]> Hi, Michael Schonwetter, do you still read this list? My old address for you bounces. (sorry to take list space for a ping) -Ken -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From thomas at stderr.net Fri Oct 12 10:49:22 2001 From: thomas at stderr.net (Thomas Eibner) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Person finder In-Reply-To: <26233212.1002850125@[0.0.0.0]>; from ken@mathforum.org on Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 01:28:45AM -0500 References: <26233212.1002850125@[0.0.0.0]> Message-ID: <20011012174922.C57502@io.stderr.net> On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 01:28:45AM -0500, Ken Williams wrote: > Hi, > > Michael Schonwetter, do you still read this list? My old address for you > bounces. > > (sorry to take list space for a ping) I thought it was the we-want-another-meeting-mail you talked about! So, when are we having another meeting? -- Thomas Eibner DnsZone mod_pointer -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From ken at mathforum.org Sun Oct 14 23:17:55 2001 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting declaration In-Reply-To: <20011012174922.C57502@io.stderr.net> References: <26233212.1002850125@[0.0.0.0]> <20011012174922.C57502@io.stderr.net> Message-ID: <33048907.1003101475@[10.0.0.2]> Thomas Eibner wrote: > I thought it was the we-want-another-meeting-mail you talked about! > > So, when are we having another meeting? We've got a tentative meeting on the site for Wednesday, October 24. I might prefer Thursday, October 25, but let's have it on one or the other. Stan Kegel, are you still interested in presenting on command-line perl? That might not take an entire meeting to do, so if anyone else has a mini-presentation that could complement it, speak up. An eBay exploitation primer? A notes-from-the-trenches horror show of bad code from workplace peers? -Ken -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From skegel at archwing.com Mon Oct 15 13:19:13 2001 From: skegel at archwing.com (Stan Kegel) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting declaration References: <26233212.1002850125@[0.0.0.0]> <20011012174922.C57502@io.stderr.net> <33048907.1003101475@[10.0.0.2]> Message-ID: <3BCB28A0.16B545B7@archwing.com> I am still planning on giving a presentation on Wednesday the 24th. Although thursdays are usually not good for me, the 25th is an option. -- Stan Ken Williams wrote: > Thomas Eibner wrote: > > I thought it was the we-want-another-meeting-mail you talked about! > > > > So, when are we having another meeting? > > We've got a tentative meeting on the site for Wednesday, October 24. I > might prefer Thursday, October 25, but let's have it on one or the other. > > Stan Kegel, are you still interested in presenting on command-line perl? > That might not take an entire meeting to do, so if anyone else has a > mini-presentation that could complement it, speak up. An eBay > exploitation primer? A notes-from-the-trenches horror show of bad code > from workplace peers? > > -Ken > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From Matthew.Johnson at Ingenix.com Mon Oct 15 16:11:47 2001 From: Matthew.Johnson at Ingenix.com (Matthew Johnson) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: HTML database interface Message-ID: <5DD31A171181D31184A100508B5ED9890220B5CC@MSP0-MSX1.Ingenix.com> Hello Mongers! I'm looking for a generalized interface to a relational database that is written in perl and spits out HTML (as in a cgi script). If you have ever used MS Access (shudder), you have an idea what I'm looking for, only in a web browser. Even a script with a small sub-set of features would be welcome. Any suggestions? -Matt -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From gypsy at FreeQ.com Mon Oct 15 17:45:51 2001 From: gypsy at FreeQ.com (Gypsy Rogers) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: HTML database interface In-Reply-To: <5DD31A171181D31184A100508B5ED9890220B5CC@MSP0-MSX1.Ingenix.com> Message-ID: I recall PostgresSQL having a built in web interface system from some docs some where but don't know much more then that about it. You might want to go take a look for yourself. http://www.postgresql.org On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Matthew Johnson wrote: > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:11:47 -0500 > From: Matthew Johnson > Reply-To: mpls@pm.org > To: mpls@pm.org > Subject: [mplspm]: HTML database interface > > Hello Mongers! > I'm looking for a generalized interface to a relational database that is > written in perl and spits out HTML (as in a cgi script). If you have ever > used MS Access (shudder), you have an idea what I'm looking for, only in a > web browser. Even a script with a small sub-set of features would be > welcome. > > Any suggestions? > > -Matt > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. > -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From zaj at cypress.com Tue Oct 16 09:39:42 2001 From: zaj at cypress.com (Andrew Jonsson) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: HTML database interface References: <5DD31A171181D31184A100508B5ED9890220B5CC@MSP0-MSX1.Ingenix.com> Message-ID: <3BCC46AE.C6B9F5B6@mailhost.cmi.cypress.com> Use the Perl DBI and you can create your own. (I'm doing this now for a project at work) Andrew Jonsson IS Engineer Cypress Semiconductor Matthew Johnson wrote: > Hello Mongers! > I'm looking for a generalized interface to a relational database that is > written in perl and spits out HTML (as in a cgi script). If you have ever > used MS Access (shudder), you have an idea what I'm looking for, only in a > web browser. Even a script with a small sub-set of features would be > welcome. > > Any suggestions? > > -Matt > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From Mark_Conty at cargill.com Mon Oct 22 17:18:22 2001 From: Mark_Conty at cargill.com (Mark Conty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Why can't I get flock($fh,LOCK_EX) to work? Message-ID: <200110222218.RAA08310@w408lynx.grain.cargill.com> I'm looking at the example in the flock() perlfunc man page, and I'm doing it the same as they are, but it keeps telling me that I'm specifying a bad file number. Anyone ever run into problems with exclusive flock() on HP-UX 10.20 or 11.x? Thanks... -- Mark Conty APS/NAGO IT Group Server Team - MS 64 952-984-0503 -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From dave.worden at veritas.com Mon Oct 22 18:01:11 2001 From: dave.worden at veritas.com (Dave Worden) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Why can't I get flock($fh,LOCK_EX) to work? Message-ID: Mark, Here is a snippet of code that worked on HP/UX several years back. See if that helps. Kinda machine specific and only _sorta_ what you asked. Regards, --djw ###################################################################### # From HP/UX man page: man 5 fcntl # # The file segment locking control structure struct flock, includes th # following members: # short l_type; /* F_RDLCK, F_WRLCK or F_UNLCK */ # short l_whence; /* Flag - see lseek(2) */ # off_t l_start; /* Relative offset in bytes */ # off_t l_len; /* Size; if 0 then until EOF */ # pid_t l_pid; /* By F_GETLK - process holding lock */ # ###################################################################### sub Acquire_Daemon_Lock { if (open(DAEMON_LOCK_FILE, "+>$Daemon_Lock_File")) { my($flock_struct) = pack("s s l l i", &F_WRLCK, 0, 0, 0, $$); if(fcntl(DAEMON_LOCK_FILE, &F_SETLK, $flock_struct)) { return(1); } close(DAEMON_LOCK_FILE); } return(0); } ###################################################################### -----Original Message----- From: Mark Conty [mailto:Mark_Conty@cargill.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:18 PM To: mpls@pm.org Subject: [mplspm]: Why can't I get flock($fh,LOCK_EX) to work? I'm looking at the example in the flock() perlfunc man page, and I'm doing it the same as they are, but it keeps telling me that I'm specifying a bad file number. Anyone ever run into problems with exclusive flock() on HP-UX 10.20 or 11.x? Thanks... -- Mark Conty APS/NAGO IT Group Server Team - MS 64 952-984-0503 -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From patm at visi.com Mon Oct 22 18:52:48 2001 From: patm at visi.com (Patrick J. McNamee) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Wednesday meeting Message-ID: <20011022185248.B10283@isis.visi.com> Is there going to be a meeting Wednesday night? If so, is it going to be at Veritas? pm -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From ken at mathforum.org Mon Oct 22 18:58:22 2001 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting this week Message-ID: <6488790.1003777102@[10.0.0.2]> Hey all, I sent a message last week about a meeting, and so now I'm sending the "I really mean it" message. We'll have a meeting this Thursday[1] at 7:30 pm, at which Stan Kegel will present on command-line Perl. We're still looking for another short presentation to round out the evening. Pipe up if you want to show something. Otherwise I can show something that I've been working on (Mail::Query). Tim, I assume Veritas is available for the meeting? Pat, can you update the site with the meeting time & agenda? -Ken [1] The only responder about scheduling said that Thursday was fine. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From autarch at urth.org Mon Oct 22 19:15:32 2001 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting this week In-Reply-To: <6488790.1003777102@[10.0.0.2]> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Ken Williams wrote: > We'll have a meeting this Thursday[1] at 7:30 pm, at which Stan Kegel > will present on command-line Perl. We're still looking for another short > presentation to round out the evening. Pipe up if you want to show > something. Otherwise I can show something that I've been working on > (Mail::Query). Well, Thursday doesn't work for me. I didn't respond cause I thought we'd all agreed last time that Thursday was an anomaly and we really meant Wednesday. Ugh. -dave /*================== www.urth.org We await the New Sun ==================*/ -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From tim.burlowski at veritas.com Mon Oct 22 20:41:03 2001 From: tim.burlowski at veritas.com (Tim Burlowski) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting this week In-Reply-To: <6488790.1003777102@[10.0.0.2]>; from ken@mathforum.org on Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 06:58:22PM -0500 References: <6488790.1003777102@[10.0.0.2]> Message-ID: <20011022204103.A25513@maple.min.ov.com> Yes, VERITAS is OK, and we are scheduled for Thursday, October 25th. tim Previously Ken Williams(ken@mathforum.org) wrote: > Hey all, > > I sent a message last week about a meeting, and so now I'm sending the "I > really mean it" message. > > We'll have a meeting this Thursday[1] at 7:30 pm, at which Stan Kegel > will present on command-line Perl. We're still looking for another short > presentation to round out the evening. Pipe up if you want to show > something. Otherwise I can show something that I've been working on > (Mail::Query). > > Tim, I assume Veritas is available for the meeting? > > Pat, can you update the site with the meeting time & agenda? > > -Ken > > [1] The only responder about scheduling said that Thursday was fine. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -- ======================================== At 7:00 PM, Roseville, MN conditions were mostly cloudy skies at 58 deg F, wind was east at 8 mph. The relative humidity was 34%, and barometric pressure was falling from 29.67 in. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From autarch at urth.org Mon Oct 22 19:44:20 2001 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting this week In-Reply-To: <20011022204103.A25513@maple.min.ov.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Tim Burlowski wrote: > Yes, VERITAS is OK, and we are scheduled for Thursday, October 25th. You know, the web page has said Wednesday for quite a while. Can we all settle on a single day of the week? I myself prefer Wednesday though most Thursday would probably be fine for me. This one is not because I scheduled something else thinking that we were meeting on Wednesday. -dave /*================== www.urth.org We await the New Sun ==================*/ -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From tim.burlowski at veritas.com Mon Oct 22 21:05:10 2001 From: tim.burlowski at veritas.com (Tim Burlowski) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting this week In-Reply-To: ; from autarch@urth.org on Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 07:44:20PM -0500 References: <20011022204103.A25513@maple.min.ov.com> Message-ID: <20011022210510.A25610@maple.min.ov.com> Dave: I am open to any day of the week, although for scheduling reasons I would prefer Thursday this week. How do you propose we settle this once and for all? Perl Scripts at 40 paces? You know you can't believe everything you read on the web ;-) tim Previously Dave Rolsky(autarch@urth.org) wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Tim Burlowski wrote: > > > Yes, VERITAS is OK, and we are scheduled for Thursday, October 25th. > > You know, the web page has said Wednesday for quite a while. > > Can we all settle on a single day of the week? > > I myself prefer Wednesday though most Thursday would probably be fine for > me. This one is not because I scheduled something else thinking that we > were meeting on Wednesday. > > > -dave > > /*================== > www.urth.org > We await the New Sun > ==================*/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -- ======================================== At 7:00 PM, Roseville, MN conditions were mostly cloudy skies at 58 deg F, wind was east at 8 mph. The relative humidity was 34%, and barometric pressure was falling from 29.67 in. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From autarch at urth.org Mon Oct 22 20:50:54 2001 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting this week In-Reply-To: <20011022210510.A25610@maple.min.ov.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Tim Burlowski wrote: > I am open to any day of the week, although for scheduling reasons I > would prefer Thursday this week. Maybe this should be decided by the speaker, since without him we are arguing about nothing. Stan? > How do you propose we settle this once and for all? Perl Scripts > at 40 paces? Bring it on, baby! > You know you can't believe everything you read on the web ;-) Maybe _you_ can't. But I'm special (my mommy said so). -dave /*================== www.urth.org We await the New Sun ==================*/ -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From skegel at archwing.com Mon Oct 22 23:52:11 2001 From: skegel at archwing.com (Stan Kegel) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting this week References: Message-ID: <3BD4F77B.2B46B001@archwing.com> I was planning for Wednesday, but I previously said that I could change to Thursday this week if needed. I usually have class on Thursdays, but not this week. (Rodney Dangerfield joke goes here.) I can make either day work. It sounds like there is no concensus (and no czar), but, upon reviewing the messages, it sounds like more people can make it Wednesday (the original plan). Is the meeting room available on Wednesday? -- Stan Dave Rolsky wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Tim Burlowski wrote: > > > I am open to any day of the week, although for scheduling reasons I > > would prefer Thursday this week. > > Maybe this should be decided by the speaker, since without him we are > arguing about nothing. Stan? > > > How do you propose we settle this once and for all? Perl Scripts > > at 40 paces? > > Bring it on, baby! > > > You know you can't believe everything you read on the web ;-) > > Maybe _you_ can't. But I'm special (my mommy said so). > > -dave > > /*================== > www.urth.org > We await the New Sun > ==================*/ > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From ken at mathforum.org Tue Oct 23 00:12:41 2001 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting this week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7620278.1003795960@[10.0.0.2]> Dave Rolsky wrote: > You know, the web page has said Wednesday for quite a while. > > Can we all settle on a single day of the week? > > I myself prefer Wednesday though most Thursday would probably be fine > for me. This one is not because I scheduled something else thinking > that we were meeting on Wednesday. At a personal level, any night this week is fine for me. Since there's nobody pushing for Thursday (I think I was the only one who actually wanted it, and the Wednesday thing I had previously was cancelled, grr), let's switch it back to Wednesday. Or, rather, from a certain point of view, let's leave it on Wednesday, as it was originally scheduled. Sorry for the coup attempt. AND, as Dave mentioned, let's standardize on a schedule again - penultimate Wednesday of every month? Every so often, on Wednesday? -Ken -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From Mark_Conty at cargill.com Tue Oct 23 07:07:36 2001 From: Mark_Conty at cargill.com (Mark Conty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Why can't I get flock($fh,LOCK_EX) to work? In-Reply-To: from "Dave Worden" at Oct 22, 2001 06:01:11 PM Message-ID: <200110231207.HAA04943@w408lynx.grain.cargill.com> Ohh, duhh! If you're going to establish an exclusive (i.e., write) lock, it works a *lot* better if you open the desired file in WRITE mode! Sheesh... Thanks anyway. (Dave, thanks for your note -- seems, though, that including the $flock_struct is kinda overkill, unless your program used those flags somewhere else.) Can't make it Thursday night -- bell choir practice. Maybe next time, tho'... -- Mark Conty APS/NAGO IT Group Server Team - MS 64 952-984-0503 -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From tim.burlowski at veritas.com Tue Oct 23 10:31:01 2001 From: tim.burlowski at veritas.com (Tim Burlowski) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting this week In-Reply-To: <3BD4F77B.2B46B001@archwing.com>; from skegel@archwing.com on Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 11:52:11PM -0500 References: <3BD4F77B.2B46B001@archwing.com> Message-ID: <20011023103101.A26700@maple.min.ov.com> I'll check. tim Previously Stan Kegel(skegel@archwing.com) wrote: > I was planning for Wednesday, but I previously said that I could change > to Thursday this week if needed. I usually have class on Thursdays, but > not this week. (Rodney Dangerfield joke goes here.) > > I can make either day work. > > It sounds like there is no concensus (and no czar), but, upon reviewing > the messages, it sounds like more people can make it Wednesday (the > original plan). Is the meeting room available on Wednesday? > > -- Stan > > Dave Rolsky wrote: > > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Tim Burlowski wrote: > > > > > I am open to any day of the week, although for scheduling reasons I > > > would prefer Thursday this week. > > > > Maybe this should be decided by the speaker, since without him we are > > arguing about nothing. Stan? > > > > > How do you propose we settle this once and for all? Perl Scripts > > > at 40 paces? > > > > Bring it on, baby! > > > > > You know you can't believe everything you read on the web ;-) > > > > Maybe _you_ can't. But I'm special (my mommy said so). > > > > -dave > > > > /*================== > > www.urth.org > > We await the New Sun > > ==================*/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -- ======================================== At 9:00 AM, Roseville, MN conditions were sunny skies at 53 deg F, wind was west at 6 mph. The relative humidity was 93%, and barometric pressure was rising from 29.46 in. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From dave.worden at veritas.com Tue Oct 23 09:31:15 2001 From: dave.worden at veritas.com (Dave Worden) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Why can't I get flock($fh,LOCK_EX) to work? Message-ID: Mark, You're correct. Overkill and not the way I would do it do it today. The mode thing got me when I originally was working with flock()ish stuff too --- *8^) Regards, --djw -----Original Message----- From: Mark Conty [mailto:Mark_Conty@cargill.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:08 AM To: mpls@pm.org Subject: Re: [mplspm]: Why can't I get flock($fh,LOCK_EX) to work? Ohh, duhh! If you're going to establish an exclusive (i.e., write) lock, it works a *lot* better if you open the desired file in WRITE mode! Sheesh... Thanks anyway. (Dave, thanks for your note -- seems, though, that including the $flock_struct is kinda overkill, unless your program used those flags somewhere else.) Can't make it Thursday night -- bell choir practice. Maybe next time, tho'... -- Mark Conty APS/NAGO IT Group Server Team - MS 64 952-984-0503 -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From Matthew.Johnson at Ingenix.com Tue Oct 23 10:36:32 2001 From: Matthew.Johnson at Ingenix.com (Matthew Johnson) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Wed or Thurs? Message-ID: <5DD31A171181D31184A100508B5ED9890220B602@MSP0-MSX1.Ingenix.com> Everyone, I'm still confused. Is the meeting Thursday this week because we have a room scheduled and Wednesday hereafter, or is it Wednesday this week and Wednesday hereafter? Here is a list of topics I'm interested in: -applications that use perl and javascript to run a ASP (example: webmail) -automated auction processing -perl and DBI in a data warehouse environment -retrieving and saving real media streams for later playback I'm not yet ready to present on these topics, but please let me know if there is a concurrent interest. -Matt Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Ken Williams [mailto:ken@mathforum.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:13 AM To: mpls@pm.org Subject: Re: [mplspm]: Meeting this week Dave Rolsky wrote: > You know, the web page has said Wednesday for quite a while. > > Can we all settle on a single day of the week? > > I myself prefer Wednesday though most Thursday would probably be fine > for me. This one is not because I scheduled something else thinking > that we were meeting on Wednesday. At a personal level, any night this week is fine for me. Since there's nobody pushing for Thursday (I think I was the only one who actually wanted it, and the Wednesday thing I had previously was cancelled, grr), let's switch it back to Wednesday. Or, rather, from a certain point of view, let's leave it on Wednesday, as it was originally scheduled. Sorry for the coup attempt. AND, as Dave mentioned, let's standardize on a schedule again - penultimate Wednesday of every month? Every so often, on Wednesday? -Ken -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From ken at mathforum.org Tue Oct 23 10:39:47 2001 From: ken at mathforum.org (Ken Williams) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Wed or Thurs? In-Reply-To: <5DD31A171181D31184A100508B5ED9890220B602@MSP0-MSX1.Ingenix.com> References: <5DD31A171181D31184A100508B5ED9890220B602@MSP0-MSX1.Ingenix.co m> Message-ID: <9877894.1003833587@[10.0.0.2]> Matthew Johnson wrote: > Everyone, > I'm still confused. Is the meeting Thursday this week because we have a > room scheduled and Wednesday hereafter, or is it Wednesday this week and > Wednesday hereafter? It's Wednesday this week and Wednesday hereafter. Tim is checking to see whether we can get the room reserved this Wednesday. -Ken -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From tim.burlowski at veritas.com Tue Oct 23 12:07:25 2001 From: tim.burlowski at veritas.com (Tim Burlowski) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Wed or Thurs? In-Reply-To: <5DD31A171181D31184A100508B5ED9890220B602@MSP0-MSX1.Ingenix.com>; from Matthew.Johnson@ingenix.com on Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:36:32AM -0500 References: <5DD31A171181D31184A100508B5ED9890220B602@MSP0-MSX1.Ingenix.com> Message-ID: <20011023120725.A27228@maple.min.ov.com> The meeting is Wednesday, October 23rd. Reports to the contrary are spurious. Pat will follow up with directions. tim burlowski Previously Matthew Johnson(Matthew.Johnson@ingenix.com) wrote: > Everyone, > I'm still confused. Is the meeting Thursday this week because we have a > room scheduled and Wednesday hereafter, or is it Wednesday this week and > Wednesday hereafter? > > Here is a list of topics I'm interested in: > -applications that use perl and javascript to run a ASP (example: webmail) > -automated auction processing > -perl and DBI in a data warehouse environment > -retrieving and saving real media streams for later playback > > I'm not yet ready to present on these topics, but please let me know if > there is a concurrent interest. > > -Matt Johnson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Williams [mailto:ken@mathforum.org] > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:13 AM > To: mpls@pm.org > Subject: Re: [mplspm]: Meeting this week > > > > > Dave Rolsky wrote: > > You know, the web page has said Wednesday for quite a while. > > > > Can we all settle on a single day of the week? > > > > I myself prefer Wednesday though most Thursday would probably be fine > > for me. This one is not because I scheduled something else thinking > > that we were meeting on Wednesday. > > At a personal level, any night this week is fine for me. Since there's > nobody pushing for Thursday (I think I was the only one who actually > wanted it, and the Wednesday thing I had previously was cancelled, grr), > let's switch it back to Wednesday. > > Or, rather, from a certain point of view, let's leave it on Wednesday, as > it was originally scheduled. Sorry for the coup attempt. > > AND, as Dave mentioned, let's standardize on a schedule again - > penultimate Wednesday of every month? Every so often, on Wednesday? > > -Ken > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -- tim burlowski ======================================== At 10:00 AM, Roseville, MN conditions were sunny skies at 55 deg F, wind was west at 6 mph. The relative humidity was 86%, and barometric pressure was rising from 29.47 in. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From jay at lach.net Tue Oct 23 11:06:14 2001 From: jay at lach.net (Jay Jacobs) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Wed or Thurs? In-Reply-To: <5DD31A171181D31184A100508B5ED9890220B602@MSP0-MSX1.Ingenix.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Matthew Johnson wrote: > Here is a list of topics I'm interested in: > -applications that use perl and javascript to run a ASP (example: webmail) Big topic... I'd vote to have people present on things that they personally have worked on and explain some of the processes they used to accomplish a task or reach a specific goal. But I'd lean towards more technical aspects then the application, functional level. I don't think I'd limit this to ASP type applications either, I'd open it to anything from simple log parsing tools to full functioning ASP solutions. > -automated auction processing This has passed in and out of my thought process a few times... my interest is there for this topic. > -perl and DBI in a data warehouse environment An interesting part of this will be how to (if to) subclass the DBI modules to achieve better results (faster to run or easier to develop, easier to maintain, etc). I know it's sparked some interesting and fiery conversation in the past... (How ya been Dave?) > -retrieving and saving real media streams for later playback Never really thought about that. > I'm not yet ready to present on these topics, but please let me know if > there is a concurrent interest. Concurrency noted! -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From autarch at urth.org Tue Oct 23 11:17:50 2001 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:27 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Wed or Thurs? In-Reply-To: <20011023120725.A27228@maple.min.ov.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Tim Burlowski wrote: > The meeting is Wednesday, October 23rd. The 23rd is today. The meeting is tomorrow, Wednesday, October 24th. -dave /*================== www.urth.org We await the New Sun ==================*/ -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From tim.burlowski at veritas.com Tue Oct 23 12:40:47 2001 From: tim.burlowski at veritas.com (Tim Burlowski) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:28 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Wed or Thurs? In-Reply-To: ; from autarch@urth.org on Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 11:17:50AM -0500 References: <20011023120725.A27228@maple.min.ov.com> Message-ID: <20011023124047.A27375@maple.min.ov.com> Yes, Wednesday October 24th. tim Previously Dave Rolsky(autarch@urth.org) wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Tim Burlowski wrote: > > > The meeting is Wednesday, October 23rd. > > The 23rd is today. > > > The meeting is tomorrow, Wednesday, October 24th. > > > -dave > > /*================== > www.urth.org > We await the New Sun > ==================*/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list > > To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org > with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. -- tim burlowski ======================================== At 11:00 AM, Roseville, MN conditions were sunny skies at 59 deg F, wind was west at 7 mph. The relative humidity was 67%, and barometric pressure was steady from 29.47 in. -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From autarch at urth.org Tue Oct 23 12:16:12 2001 From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:28 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Wed or Thurs? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Jay Jacobs wrote: > > -perl and DBI in a data warehouse environment > > An interesting part of this will be how to (if to) subclass the DBI > modules to achieve better results (faster to run or easier to develop, > easier to maintain, etc). I know it's sparked some interesting and fiery > conversation in the past... (How ya been Dave?) I think I already had my say on this issue, having presented on Alzabo. Although I don't know that I'd actually recommend Alzabo for dealing with a data warehouse, where speed is usually a main concern. Perhaps we could have a set of different people present how they've solved these problems in the past. There's definitely MTOWTDI in this arena. -dave /*================== www.urth.org We await the New Sun ==================*/ -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message. From patm at visi.com Tue Oct 23 13:27:04 2001 From: patm at visi.com (Patrick J. McNamee) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:29:28 2004 Subject: [mplspm]: Meeting details Message-ID: <20011023132704.B8390@isis.visi.com> Details for Wednesday night's meeting (including directions) are now posted at http://minneapolis.pm.org/#community. To summarize: Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 Time: 7:30 pm Agenda: Stan Kegel will discuss command-line Perl. Location: VERITAS Software 2815 Cleveland Ave. Roseville, MN 55113 Directions: - Follow 35W North thru Minneapolis to the Exit 24 Cleveland Ave. / County Rd C - Take Exit 24 to Cleveland Ave. / County Rd C - At the traffic light, turn left on Cleveland Ave. - You'll see VERITAS Software, a five story building, immediately on your left - Turn left into the VERITAS parking lot pm -------------------------------------------------- Minneapolis Perl Mongers mailing list To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@pm.org with "unsubscribe mpls" in the body of the message.