From andrei.protasovitski на gmail.com Thu Jan 8 23:38:16 2009 From: andrei.protasovitski на gmail.com (Andrei Protasovitski) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:38:16 +0200 Subject: [Minsk-pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students In-Reply-To: <200901082324.22666.scratchcomputing@gmail.com> References: <200901082324.22666.scratchcomputing@gmail.com> Message-ID: <25d777680901082338o736f662ey3ac4e79f8329d71a@mail.gmail.com> Студенты есть? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Eric Wilhelm Date: 2009/1/9 Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students To: pm_groups на pm.org Копия: tpf-steering на perl.org, directors на lists.parrot.org Hi everybody, It's very cold here. Time to start thinking about summer! The student proposals for Google's Summer of Code will be due in a couple short months and Google has just given word that the program will indeed be on again this year. For 2008, we had a great turnout of willing and able mentors, but only about 16 student applications. This implies that we need to try to reach more students and encourage them to apply for summer of code this year. We'll probably start to see more information from Google about SOC 2009 within a month or so. For now: http://tinyurl.com/9r55v3 Last year taught us that the returning organizations which started early were more successful in recruiting students. While we can't say for sure that Perl/Parrot will be accepted as mentor organizations, we'll get a very late start if we wait. If it (knock on wood) doesn't happen, the Perl community will still benefit from efforts to connect with more students. The following are just a few ideas of what your local Perl Mongers group could do to help. Please forward this to your mailing list or discuss it at your next meeting. Find out if your local university has Perl in the curriculum. If so, get in touch with the professors and let them know about your local Perl Mongers group. Ask if they would be interested in you speaking to their class or giving a presentation on-campus. If the computer science department doesn't seem interested in Perl, you might find users (or potential users) in other departments. Think about all of the niche data-crunching for which Perl gets used. Find grad students who might be doing that - whatever their major might be. Are any members of your group recently graduated? If so, the contacts they still have might be a great place to start, especially in non-cs disciplines. Even in very specialized applications, the chances are that the Perl community contains a mentor with a related background. Finally, I would be interested in hearing from any Perl Mongers groups which have been involved with on-campus activities or are meeting on campus. Please send me mail about what you are doing, or even write about it on use.perl. Thanks, Eric -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support на pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups на pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups -- Andrei Protasovitski < andrei[dot]protasovitski[at]gmail[dot]com > Minsk, Belarus From nikolai.sevostjanov на gmail.com Fri Jan 9 01:40:16 2009 From: nikolai.sevostjanov на gmail.com (Nikolai Sevostjanov) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:40:16 +0200 Subject: [Minsk-pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students In-Reply-To: <25d777680901082338o736f662ey3ac4e79f8329d71a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200901082324.22666.scratchcomputing@gmail.com> <25d777680901082338o736f662ey3ac4e79f8329d71a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49671B80.5060402@gmail.com> Да, есть. Только половину лета я собирался провести в азии, изучая их алкогольные напитки. Andrei Protasovitski пишет: > Студенты есть? > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Eric Wilhelm > Date: 2009/1/9 > Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students > To: pm_groups на pm.org > Копия: tpf-steering на perl.org, directors на lists.parrot.org > > > Hi everybody, > > It's very cold here. Time to start thinking about summer! > > The student proposals for Google's Summer of Code will be due in a > couple short months and Google has just given word that the program > will indeed be on again this year. > > For 2008, we had a great turnout of willing and able mentors, but only > about 16 student applications. This implies that we need to try to > reach more students and encourage them to apply for summer of code this > year. > > We'll probably start to see more information from Google about SOC 2009 > within a month or so. For now: > > http://tinyurl.com/9r55v3 > > Last year taught us that the returning organizations which started early > were more successful in recruiting students. While we can't say for > sure that Perl/Parrot will be accepted as mentor organizations, we'll > get a very late start if we wait. If it (knock on wood) doesn't > happen, the Perl community will still benefit from efforts to connect > with more students. > > The following are just a few ideas of what your local Perl Mongers group > could do to help. Please forward this to your mailing list or discuss > it at your next meeting. > > Find out if your local university has Perl in the curriculum. If so, > get in touch with the professors and let them know about your local > Perl Mongers group. Ask if they would be interested in you speaking to > their class or giving a presentation on-campus. > > If the computer science department doesn't seem interested in Perl, you > might find users (or potential users) in other departments. Think > about all of the niche data-crunching for which Perl gets used. Find > grad students who might be doing that - whatever their major might be. > > Are any members of your group recently graduated? If so, the contacts > they still have might be a great place to start, especially in non-cs > disciplines. Even in very specialized applications, the chances are > that the Perl community contains a mentor with a related background. > > Finally, I would be interested in hearing from any Perl Mongers groups > which have been involved with on-campus activities or are meeting on > campus. Please send me mail about what you are doing, or even write > about it on use.perl. > > Thanks, > Eric > -- > Request pm.org Technical Support via support на pm.org > > pm_groups mailing list > pm_groups на pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups > > > > From yu.pats на gmail.com Fri Jan 9 03:44:33 2009 From: yu.pats на gmail.com (Yuri Pac) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:44:33 +0200 Subject: [Minsk-pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students In-Reply-To: <49671B80.5060402@gmail.com> References: <200901082324.22666.scratchcomputing@gmail.com> <25d777680901082338o736f662ey3ac4e79f8329d71a@mail.gmail.com> <49671B80.5060402@gmail.com> Message-ID: Разве обязательно быть студентом? Можно просто иметь свободное время. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:40, Nikolai Sevostjanov wrote: > Да, есть. Только половину лета я собирался провести в азии, изучая их > алкогольные напитки. > > Andrei Protasovitski пишет: >> >> Студенты есть? >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Eric Wilhelm >> Date: 2009/1/9 >> Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students >> To: pm_groups на pm.org >> Копия: tpf-steering на perl.org, directors на lists.parrot.org >> >> >> Hi everybody, >> >> It's very cold here. Time to start thinking about summer! >> >> The student proposals for Google's Summer of Code will be due in a >> couple short months and Google has just given word that the program >> will indeed be on again this year. >> >> For 2008, we had a great turnout of willing and able mentors, but only >> about 16 student applications. This implies that we need to try to >> reach more students and encourage them to apply for summer of code this >> year. >> >> We'll probably start to see more information from Google about SOC 2009 >> within a month or so. For now: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/9r55v3 >> >> Last year taught us that the returning organizations which started early >> were more successful in recruiting students. While we can't say for >> sure that Perl/Parrot will be accepted as mentor organizations, we'll >> get a very late start if we wait. If it (knock on wood) doesn't >> happen, the Perl community will still benefit from efforts to connect >> with more students. >> >> The following are just a few ideas of what your local Perl Mongers group >> could do to help. Please forward this to your mailing list or discuss >> it at your next meeting. >> >> Find out if your local university has Perl in the curriculum. If so, >> get in touch with the professors and let them know about your local >> Perl Mongers group. Ask if they would be interested in you speaking to >> their class or giving a presentation on-campus. >> >> If the computer science department doesn't seem interested in Perl, you >> might find users (or potential users) in other departments. Think >> about all of the niche data-crunching for which Perl gets used. Find >> grad students who might be doing that - whatever their major might be. >> >> Are any members of your group recently graduated? If so, the contacts >> they still have might be a great place to start, especially in non-cs >> disciplines. Even in very specialized applications, the chances are >> that the Perl community contains a mentor with a related background. >> >> Finally, I would be interested in hearing from any Perl Mongers groups >> which have been involved with on-campus activities or are meeting on >> campus. Please send me mail about what you are doing, or even write >> about it on use.perl. >> >> Thanks, >> Eric >> -- >> Request pm.org Technical Support via support на pm.org >> >> pm_groups mailing list >> pm_groups на pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Minsk-pm mailing list > Minsk-pm на pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/minsk-pm > -- WBR, Yuri Pac From nikolai.sevostjanov на gmail.com Fri Jan 9 12:58:45 2009 From: nikolai.sevostjanov на gmail.com (Nikolai Sevostjanov) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:58:45 +0200 Subject: [Minsk-pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students In-Reply-To: References: <200901082324.22666.scratchcomputing@gmail.com> <25d777680901082338o736f662ey3ac4e79f8329d71a@mail.gmail.com> <49671B80.5060402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4967BA85.5010308@gmail.com> Одно из условий быть студентом. В этом и фишка данного мероприятия. Yuri Pac пишет: > Разве обязательно быть студентом? Можно просто иметь свободное время. > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:40, Nikolai Sevostjanov > wrote: > >> Да, есть. Только половину лета я собирался провести в азии, изучая их >> алкогольные напитки. >> >> Andrei Protasovitski пишет: >> >>> Студенты есть? >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Eric Wilhelm >>> Date: 2009/1/9 >>> Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students >>> To: pm_groups на pm.org >>> Копия: tpf-steering на perl.org, directors на lists.parrot.org >>> >>> >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> It's very cold here. Time to start thinking about summer! >>> >>> The student proposals for Google's Summer of Code will be due in a >>> couple short months and Google has just given word that the program >>> will indeed be on again this year. >>> >>> For 2008, we had a great turnout of willing and able mentors, but only >>> about 16 student applications. This implies that we need to try to >>> reach more students and encourage them to apply for summer of code this >>> year. >>> >>> We'll probably start to see more information from Google about SOC 2009 >>> within a month or so. For now: >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/9r55v3 >>> >>> Last year taught us that the returning organizations which started early >>> were more successful in recruiting students. While we can't say for >>> sure that Perl/Parrot will be accepted as mentor organizations, we'll >>> get a very late start if we wait. If it (knock on wood) doesn't >>> happen, the Perl community will still benefit from efforts to connect >>> with more students. >>> >>> The following are just a few ideas of what your local Perl Mongers group >>> could do to help. Please forward this to your mailing list or discuss >>> it at your next meeting. >>> >>> Find out if your local university has Perl in the curriculum. If so, >>> get in touch with the professors and let them know about your local >>> Perl Mongers group. Ask if they would be interested in you speaking to >>> their class or giving a presentation on-campus. >>> >>> If the computer science department doesn't seem interested in Perl, you >>> might find users (or potential users) in other departments. Think >>> about all of the niche data-crunching for which Perl gets used. Find >>> grad students who might be doing that - whatever their major might be. >>> >>> Are any members of your group recently graduated? If so, the contacts >>> they still have might be a great place to start, especially in non-cs >>> disciplines. Even in very specialized applications, the chances are >>> that the Perl community contains a mentor with a related background. >>> >>> Finally, I would be interested in hearing from any Perl Mongers groups >>> which have been involved with on-campus activities or are meeting on >>> campus. Please send me mail about what you are doing, or even write >>> about it on use.perl. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eric >>> -- >>> Request pm.org Technical Support via support на pm.org >>> >>> pm_groups mailing list >>> pm_groups на pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Minsk-pm mailing list >> Minsk-pm на pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/minsk-pm >> >> > > > > From yu.pats на gmail.com Thu Jan 15 06:12:14 2009 From: yu.pats на gmail.com (Yuri Pac) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:12:14 +0200 Subject: [Minsk-pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students In-Reply-To: <25d777680901082338o736f662ey3ac4e79f8329d71a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200901082324.22666.scratchcomputing@gmail.com> <25d777680901082338o736f662ey3ac4e79f8329d71a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Если будут желающие, то найдем проект и поможем с организацией и навыками. В Москве говорят о курсах для студентов. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 09:38, Andrei Protasovitski wrote: > Студенты есть? > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Eric Wilhelm > Date: 2009/1/9 > Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students > To: pm_groups на pm.org > Копия: tpf-steering на perl.org, directors на lists.parrot.org > > > Hi everybody, > > It's very cold here. Time to start thinking about summer! > > The student proposals for Google's Summer of Code will be due in a > couple short months and Google has just given word that the program > will indeed be on again this year. > > For 2008, we had a great turnout of willing and able mentors, but only > about 16 student applications. This implies that we need to try to > reach more students and encourage them to apply for summer of code this > year. > > We'll probably start to see more information from Google about SOC 2009 > within a month or so. For now: > > http://tinyurl.com/9r55v3 > > Last year taught us that the returning organizations which started early > were more successful in recruiting students. While we can't say for > sure that Perl/Parrot will be accepted as mentor organizations, we'll > get a very late start if we wait. If it (knock on wood) doesn't > happen, the Perl community will still benefit from efforts to connect > with more students. > > The following are just a few ideas of what your local Perl Mongers group > could do to help. Please forward this to your mailing list or discuss > it at your next meeting. > > Find out if your local university has Perl in the curriculum. If so, > get in touch with the professors and let them know about your local > Perl Mongers group. Ask if they would be interested in you speaking to > their class or giving a presentation on-campus. > > If the computer science department doesn't seem interested in Perl, you > might find users (or potential users) in other departments. Think > about all of the niche data-crunching for which Perl gets used. Find > grad students who might be doing that - whatever their major might be. > > Are any members of your group recently graduated? If so, the contacts > they still have might be a great place to start, especially in non-cs > disciplines. Even in very specialized applications, the chances are > that the Perl community contains a mentor with a related background. > > Finally, I would be interested in hearing from any Perl Mongers groups > which have been involved with on-campus activities or are meeting on > campus. Please send me mail about what you are doing, or even write > about it on use.perl. > > Thanks, > Eric > -- > Request pm.org Technical Support via support на pm.org > > pm_groups mailing list > pm_groups на pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups > > > > -- > Andrei Protasovitski > < andrei[dot]protasovitski[at]gmail[dot]com > > Minsk, Belarus > _______________________________________________ > Minsk-pm mailing list > Minsk-pm на pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/minsk-pm > -- WBR, Yuri Pac From andrei.protasovitski на gmail.com Thu Jan 15 10:03:59 2009 From: andrei.protasovitski на gmail.com (Andrei) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:03:59 +0200 Subject: [Minsk-pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students In-Reply-To: References: <200901082324.22666.scratchcomputing@gmail.com> <25d777680901082338o736f662ey3ac4e79f8329d71a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <25d777680901151003w4ff76157o56a7389cf8d64ed2@mail.gmail.com> И с распилом прибыли! ;) 2009/1/15 Yuri Pac : > Если будут желающие, то найдем проект и поможем с организацией и навыками. > > В Москве говорят о курсах для студентов. > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 09:38, Andrei Protasovitski > wrote: >> Студенты есть? >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Eric Wilhelm >> Date: 2009/1/9 >> Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students >> To: pm_groups на pm.org >> Копия: tpf-steering на perl.org, directors на lists.parrot.org >> >> >> Hi everybody, >> >> It's very cold here. Time to start thinking about summer! >> >> The student proposals for Google's Summer of Code will be due in a >> couple short months and Google has just given word that the program >> will indeed be on again this year. >> >> For 2008, we had a great turnout of willing and able mentors, but only >> about 16 student applications. This implies that we need to try to >> reach more students and encourage them to apply for summer of code this >> year. >> >> We'll probably start to see more information from Google about SOC 2009 >> within a month or so. For now: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/9r55v3 >> >> Last year taught us that the returning organizations which started early >> were more successful in recruiting students. While we can't say for >> sure that Perl/Parrot will be accepted as mentor organizations, we'll >> get a very late start if we wait. If it (knock on wood) doesn't >> happen, the Perl community will still benefit from efforts to connect >> with more students. >> >> The following are just a few ideas of what your local Perl Mongers group >> could do to help. Please forward this to your mailing list or discuss >> it at your next meeting. >> >> Find out if your local university has Perl in the curriculum. If so, >> get in touch with the professors and let them know about your local >> Perl Mongers group. Ask if they would be interested in you speaking to >> their class or giving a presentation on-campus. >> >> If the computer science department doesn't seem interested in Perl, you >> might find users (or potential users) in other departments. Think >> about all of the niche data-crunching for which Perl gets used. Find >> grad students who might be doing that - whatever their major might be. >> >> Are any members of your group recently graduated? If so, the contacts >> they still have might be a great place to start, especially in non-cs >> disciplines. Even in very specialized applications, the chances are >> that the Perl community contains a mentor with a related background. >> >> Finally, I would be interested in hearing from any Perl Mongers groups >> which have been involved with on-campus activities or are meeting on >> campus. Please send me mail about what you are doing, or even write >> about it on use.perl. >> >> Thanks, >> Eric >> -- >> Request pm.org Technical Support via support на pm.org >> >> pm_groups mailing list >> pm_groups на pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrei Protasovitski >> < andrei[dot]protasovitski[at]gmail[dot]com > >> Minsk, Belarus >> _______________________________________________ >> Minsk-pm mailing list >> Minsk-pm на pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/minsk-pm >> > > > > -- > WBR, Yuri Pac > _______________________________________________ > Minsk-pm mailing list > Minsk-pm на pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/minsk-pm > -- Andrei Protasovitski < andrei[dot]protasovitski[at]gmail[dot]com > Minsk, Belarus From andrei.protasovitski на gmail.com Thu Jan 15 12:52:43 2009 From: andrei.protasovitski на gmail.com (Andrei) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:52:43 +0200 Subject: [Minsk-pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] GSoC 2009 - can your .pm pledge a student? In-Reply-To: <200901151233.43798.scratchcomputing@gmail.com> References: <200901151233.43798.scratchcomputing@gmail.com> Message-ID: <25d777680901151252g4b18fe47led9673b1e908f3ee@mail.gmail.com> Студентов совсем нет? Или все студенты исключительно дотнеччеги и вантузятнеги? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Eric Wilhelm Date: 2009/1/15 Subject: [pm_groups] GSoC 2009 - can your .pm pledge a student? To: pm_groups на pm.org Копия: Jonathan Leto Hello all, Jonathan Leto has stepped-up to take the wheel for the Summer of Code effort and would like to enlist your help to contact potential students. http://leto.net/dukeleto.pl/2009/01/perl-monger-parallelism.html We did a great job of enlisting mentors last year, so please help us balance that equation with students this year. Please feel free to use this handy template to enlist a few people from your group to help: ------------------------------------------------------- To: Subject: can we find one student for GSoC 2009? Hi all, I would like to have a few volunteers for our student outreach program. If you know a likely candidate or have the time to do a campus visit, please step forward. Let's help make this happen: http://leto.net/dukeleto.pl/2009/01/perl-monger-parallelism.html (Please feel free to contact me off-list if you or someone you know would like to volunteer.) By reading this message, you agree to allow yourself to be volunteered for this task by one of your fellow members. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Eric -- We who cut mere stones must always be envisioning cathedrals. --Quarry worker's creed --------------------------------------------------- http://scratchcomputing.com --------------------------------------------------- -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support на pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups на pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups -- Andrei Protasovitski < andrei[dot]protasovitski[at]gmail[dot]com > Minsk, Belarus From yu.pats на gmail.com Fri Jan 16 03:14:54 2009 From: yu.pats на gmail.com (Yuri Pac) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:14:54 +0200 Subject: [Minsk-pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students In-Reply-To: <25d777680901151003w4ff76157o56a7389cf8d64ed2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200901082324.22666.scratchcomputing@gmail.com> <25d777680901082338o736f662ey3ac4e79f8329d71a@mail.gmail.com> <25d777680901151003w4ff76157o56a7389cf8d64ed2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Среди тем, которые я поддержу. Moose, переписывание DBIC на Moose. Что-нибудь связанное с каталистом. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 20:03, Andrei wrote: > И с распилом прибыли! ;) > > 2009/1/15 Yuri Pac : >> Если будут желающие, то найдем проект и поможем с организацией и навыками. >> >> В Москве говорят о курсах для студентов. >> >> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 09:38, Andrei Protasovitski >> wrote: >>> Студенты есть? >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Eric Wilhelm >>> Date: 2009/1/9 >>> Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Code 2009 - engaging with students >>> To: pm_groups на pm.org >>> Копия: tpf-steering на perl.org, directors на lists.parrot.org >>> >>> >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> It's very cold here. Time to start thinking about summer! >>> >>> The student proposals for Google's Summer of Code will be due in a >>> couple short months and Google has just given word that the program >>> will indeed be on again this year. >>> >>> For 2008, we had a great turnout of willing and able mentors, but only >>> about 16 student applications. This implies that we need to try to >>> reach more students and encourage them to apply for summer of code this >>> year. >>> >>> We'll probably start to see more information from Google about SOC 2009 >>> within a month or so. For now: >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/9r55v3 >>> >>> Last year taught us that the returning organizations which started early >>> were more successful in recruiting students. While we can't say for >>> sure that Perl/Parrot will be accepted as mentor organizations, we'll >>> get a very late start if we wait. If it (knock on wood) doesn't >>> happen, the Perl community will still benefit from efforts to connect >>> with more students. >>> >>> The following are just a few ideas of what your local Perl Mongers group >>> could do to help. Please forward this to your mailing list or discuss >>> it at your next meeting. >>> >>> Find out if your local university has Perl in the curriculum. If so, >>> get in touch with the professors and let them know about your local >>> Perl Mongers group. Ask if they would be interested in you speaking to >>> their class or giving a presentation on-campus. >>> >>> If the computer science department doesn't seem interested in Perl, you >>> might find users (or potential users) in other departments. Think >>> about all of the niche data-crunching for which Perl gets used. Find >>> grad students who might be doing that - whatever their major might be. >>> >>> Are any members of your group recently graduated? If so, the contacts >>> they still have might be a great place to start, especially in non-cs >>> disciplines. Even in very specialized applications, the chances are >>> that the Perl community contains a mentor with a related background. >>> >>> Finally, I would be interested in hearing from any Perl Mongers groups >>> which have been involved with on-campus activities or are meeting on >>> campus. Please send me mail about what you are doing, or even write >>> about it on use.perl. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eric >>> -- >>> Request pm.org Technical Support via support на pm.org >>> >>> pm_groups mailing list >>> pm_groups на pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andrei Protasovitski >>> < andrei[dot]protasovitski[at]gmail[dot]com > >>> Minsk, Belarus >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Minsk-pm mailing list >>> Minsk-pm на pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/minsk-pm >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> WBR, Yuri Pac >> _______________________________________________ >> Minsk-pm mailing list >> Minsk-pm на pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/minsk-pm >> > > > > -- > Andrei Protasovitski > < andrei[dot]protasovitski[at]gmail[dot]com > > Minsk, Belarus > _______________________________________________ > Minsk-pm mailing list > Minsk-pm на pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/minsk-pm > -- WBR, Yuri Pac