From danielplower at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 04:21:11 2020
From: danielplower at gmail.com (Daniel Lower)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:21:11 +0100
Subject: Milton Keynes Perl Mongers/LUG online social
In-Reply-To: <3c4777d9-63d7-692b-8c5f-e4f7978e5030@gmail.com>
References: <3c4777d9-63d7-692b-8c5f-e4f7978e5030@gmail.com>
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Hi All,

According to the meeting calendar  there should be  a meeting tonight? Are
you scheduling or shall I do the honours?

Cheers,


On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 16:15, Tony Edwardson <tony.edwardson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi All
>
> The next MKPM social is due tonight so I will setup a Jitsi meeting as
> before just before 8pm tonight with beer at the ready
> The link to join in will be
> https://meet.jit.si/MKLUGandPerlMongers
>
> Catch you later
> Cheers
> Tony
> _______________________________________________
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From danielplower at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 04:25:26 2020
From: danielplower at gmail.com (Daniel Lower)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:25:26 +0100
Subject: Meeting tonight
Message-ID: <CACAH55U+niE4J_JuNLa2OfcusYUZS8qeV=+Yqq5KGQsCLHBbuw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Is there a meeting tonight second Thursday seems to mirror last month?

Cheers,
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From r.t.c.norfor at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 05:04:59 2020
From: r.t.c.norfor at gmail.com (Rod Norfor)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:04:59 +0100
Subject: Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <CACAH55U+niE4J_JuNLa2OfcusYUZS8qeV=+Yqq5KGQsCLHBbuw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAH55U+niE4J_JuNLa2OfcusYUZS8qeV=+Yqq5KGQsCLHBbuw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANu2z+FxHxQr9mBWPB8oc=GAVfP2QSCOTmv_=mSLTAHUC+2Ysg@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, should be.

You the same link that Tony sent previously.

Regards.

Rod


On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 12:25, Daniel Lower <danielplower at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Is there a meeting tonight second Thursday seems to mirror last month?
>
> Cheers,
> _______________________________________________
> MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list
> MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm
>
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From tony at edwardson.co.uk  Thu Jul  9 05:04:33 2020
From: tony at edwardson.co.uk (Tony Edwardson)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:04:33 +0100
Subject: Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <CACAH55U+niE4J_JuNLa2OfcusYUZS8qeV=+Yqq5KGQsCLHBbuw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAH55U+niE4J_JuNLa2OfcusYUZS8qeV=+Yqq5KGQsCLHBbuw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A50FDCA3-9826-41D9-A3F7-38A169E0932B@edwardson.co.uk>

yup - will send the link out later

Sent from my iPad

> On 9 Jul 2020, at 12:25, Daniel Lower <danielplower at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi All,
> 
> Is there a meeting tonight second Thursday seems to mirror last month?
> 
> Cheers,
> _______________________________________________
> MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list
> MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm

From danielplower at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 06:17:12 2020
From: danielplower at gmail.com (Daniel Lower)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:17:12 +0100
Subject: Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <CANu2z+FxHxQr9mBWPB8oc=GAVfP2QSCOTmv_=mSLTAHUC+2Ysg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACAH55U+niE4J_JuNLa2OfcusYUZS8qeV=+Yqq5KGQsCLHBbuw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANu2z+FxHxQr9mBWPB8oc=GAVfP2QSCOTmv_=mSLTAHUC+2Ysg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACAH55VxZ2VP1iYLOnnm1okTuRLdtXBdrnZ9FBHzHO1hWHBzkQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

That's good I've been doing lots of stuff recently all below.

*Bramble *

Occurred to me I have a Rapberry Pi 3B and a Raspberry Pi early one going
spare Buy another 3 cheap Pis and would have a Bramble.
They're getting down to ?25 or ?20 in some cases so might be worth thinking
about.

*Brtfs*

Talk of Fedora Core using BRTFS
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-33-btrfs-by-default-test-day-2020-07-08/

Makes me wonder I maybe should format my NVm SSD with BRTFS apparently it's
better for them.
Also have a large partition to  keep video files on used XFS which is good
for large files apparently.

*Google Coral USB Accelerator*

I bought one for Tensor flow experimentation as can plug it in a Raspberry
Pi and do real time image classification as well as making learning faster.
There is the Intel one as well but I fancied Tensor Flow more.

*CourseA.*

Signed up to them they have some meaty courses that seem to be worth
something. Anyone else tried them?

*Clojure*

I bought IntelliJ recently well I like vim or emacs but good to go the next
level.
Quite fun learning functional programming.

*Motion Eye OS*

Bought a Raspbery Pi 4 recently with High res cam and the 16mm zoom lens,
to watch my Bird feeder and learn machine learning in the process.
So far only a pigeon to train with but hopefullly will get there.
Anyone experience with this my first go gave too many videos to browse.
Added a editable Mask which then also didn't work
only recognising the arrival of a Pigeon not the eating there of. Turned on
Smart Mask and Auto Threshold now will see how that goes.

*Nexdock 2 Touch*

I ordered one that's comming August by the look of it. Talk now you only
need two cables to connect a Raspberry Pi 4
http://nexdock.com/support/raspberrypi-4/ aka Option 2.

*Machine Learning*
I bought the O'Reilly Hands On Machine Learning with SciKit-Learn Keras and
Tensor Flow 2 book after the intro course I'l probably find
a matching course for the book.

*IBM M900 Tiny PC *

Well since I got IntelliJ looked for a small Intel box to run a full 64bit
Genuine Linux on to run yikes java and well experimental stuff.
Bought myself an IBM M900 with 8GB ram 128GB SSD for ?140 + ?10 postage.
Not bad I thought, have since stuck a 1TB NVM 2e PCI express card inside it
blindingly fast now
and bonus have one spare SATA connection so hooked up an old slow drive for
backups. What is the programme of choice for backups now? rsync, tar? I
hear rsync does
incremental...

*Optane*

>From the above if I do build a VR machine eventually I think I will get
Intel Optane which is even quicker and surprised it's out already.

*POE Hat for Pi (Power over Ethernet for those who don't know)*

I was planning on putting the bird table camera outside but alas don't
think the lens is waterproof and something unnerving about having
nearly ?200 worth of gear unattended. So now either I send it back or will
need another use for my Poe Hat any ideas.

*Udemy*

Signed up for some Udemy courses as they were cheap as chips a Pfsense
router one some machine learning with Anaconda and Python sorry
it seems to have won the science data analysis language race.

*Wayland*

Was chatting on Freenode #linux  and it came up. Anyone tried it? I see
it's still not ready for Prime Time as of 2019 and there were some
criticisms on event injection...
General info
https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Is-Wayland-the-New-X


*Zsh*

As I'm on the terminal alot these days felt like trying another shell. Even
the act of switching is interesting what's the zsh bash shopt equivalent of
shopt -s checkwinsize I wonder.

*Finally to seemingly stay on topic.*
Having thought about Zsh I thought I bet there is a Perl shell and sure
enough Psh exists though doesn't look too active.

https://gnp.github.io/psh/

That's all sorry if it's long but it's been interesting times.

Cheers,







On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 13:05, Rod Norfor <r.t.c.norfor at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, should be.
>
> You the same link that Tony sent previously.
>
> Regards.
>
> Rod
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 12:25, Daniel Lower <danielplower at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there a meeting tonight second Thursday seems to mirror last month?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> _______________________________________________
>> MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list
>> MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org
>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm
>>
>
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From peter at dragonstaff.co.uk  Thu Jul  9 12:11:52 2020
From: peter at dragonstaff.co.uk (Peter Edwards)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 20:11:52 +0100
Subject: MKPM virtual meeting tonight
Message-ID: <CAL+Fsemj6PrdGWMJX6u8n0FpkTpk_ZnK=Kbi5_3JAkZw0MAxwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Is at https://meet.jit.si/MKLUGandPerlMongers
A few of us already online :)

Regards, Peter
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From tom at eborcom.com  Thu Jul  9 12:40:45 2020
From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 19:40:45 +0000
Subject: MKPM virtual meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <CAL+Fsemj6PrdGWMJX6u8n0FpkTpk_ZnK=Kbi5_3JAkZw0MAxwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL+Fsemj6PrdGWMJX6u8n0FpkTpk_ZnK=Kbi5_3JAkZw0MAxwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20200709194045.GN26143@eborcom.com>

On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 08:11:52PM +0100, Peter Edwards wrote:
> Is at https://meet.jit.si/MKLUGandPerlMongers
> A few of us already online :)

It was good to see you all briefly until the Internet conspired against
me..

Despite what I said on the call, the link you sent works fine.  Peter,
you mentioned Dancer3 was in development: do you have a link for this?
I'd like to take a look.

Also, I notice that http://miltonkeynes.pm.org/ doesn't work, although
http://miltonkeynes.pm/ does.  Plenty of places link to the original,
broken address so it would be worth fixing.

I'll try to pop by some time before 2029. :)

Tom

From peter at dragonstaff.co.uk  Thu Jul  9 13:21:47 2020
From: peter at dragonstaff.co.uk (Peter Edwards)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 21:21:47 +0100
Subject: MKPM virtual meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <20200709194045.GN26143@eborcom.com>
References: <CAL+Fsemj6PrdGWMJX6u8n0FpkTpk_ZnK=Kbi5_3JAkZw0MAxwQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20200709194045.GN26143@eborcom.com>
Message-ID: <CAL+FsenWbadXZA_r9gFGiPzpxUt5v11ps2bj5oz+h-wmH5rz5w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tom,
I can't find anything on the web in the BOF session I'm pretty sure they
were discussing it?

We are using Dancer2 for some apps, and Raisin for our CRM API.
Both very good for their use cases.

Great to see you again :)

Cheers, Peter

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:10 PM Tom Hukins <tom at eborcom.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 08:11:52PM +0100, Peter Edwards wrote:
> > Is at https://meet.jit.si/MKLUGandPerlMongers
> > A few of us already online :)
>
> It was good to see you all briefly until the Internet conspired against
> me..
>
> Despite what I said on the call, the link you sent works fine.  Peter,
> you mentioned Dancer3 was in development: do you have a link for this?
> I'd like to take a look.
>
> Also, I notice that http://miltonkeynes.pm.org/ doesn't work, although
> http://miltonkeynes.pm/ does.  Plenty of places link to the original,
> broken address so it would be worth fixing.
>
> I'll try to pop by some time before 2029. :)
>
> Tom
> _______________________________________________
> MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list
> MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm
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From peter at dragonstaff.co.uk  Mon Jul 20 00:52:00 2020
From: peter at dragonstaff.co.uk (Peter Edwards)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 08:52:00 +0100
Subject: Online wiki of virtual PMs
Message-ID: <CAL+Fsen_Jec-z_tN+FDM7twe4hm7Q0y3xYjzSKuVppY2KFhXmA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tony and all,
what do you think about adding our virtual PM to this wiki page?
https://github.com/perlorg/www.pm.org/wiki/The-Meetings-Page
It was suggested by the Perl Weekly newsletter editors.

Cheers, Peter
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From r.t.c.norfor at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 01:06:55 2020
From: r.t.c.norfor at gmail.com (Rod Norfor)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 09:06:55 +0100
Subject: Online wiki of virtual PMs
In-Reply-To: <CAL+Fsen_Jec-z_tN+FDM7twe4hm7Q0y3xYjzSKuVppY2KFhXmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL+Fsen_Jec-z_tN+FDM7twe4hm7Q0y3xYjzSKuVppY2KFhXmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANu2z+Enf5uZc1uhwKBtwFzfrM_LqjHsU2s0Z-O3rCCHD_faoQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good idea,

Maybe we should change our home page to have details of the virtual PM as
well.

Regards.

Rod


On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 08:52, Peter Edwards <peter at dragonstaff.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Tony and all,
> what do you think about adding our virtual PM to this wiki page?
> https://github.com/perlorg/www.pm.org/wiki/The-Meetings-Page
> It was suggested by the Perl Weekly newsletter editors.
>
> Cheers, Peter
>
> _______________________________________________
> MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list
> MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm
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From colin.newell at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 01:28:09 2020
From: colin.newell at gmail.com (Colin Newell)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 09:28:09 +0100
Subject: Online wiki of virtual PMs
In-Reply-To: <CANu2z+Enf5uZc1uhwKBtwFzfrM_LqjHsU2s0Z-O3rCCHD_faoQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL+Fsen_Jec-z_tN+FDM7twe4hm7Q0y3xYjzSKuVppY2KFhXmA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANu2z+Enf5uZc1uhwKBtwFzfrM_LqjHsU2s0Z-O3rCCHD_faoQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKPO2a4ZfxdO8PiRLXeUL5WswSPDiPcD4krnDPzZ9rDZxUmHAA@mail.gmail.com>

Are you not worried about zoom bombing or whatever you might call it?


Colin.

On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 09:07, Rod Norfor <r.t.c.norfor at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good idea,
>
> Maybe we should change our home page to have details of the virtual PM as well.
>
> Regards.
>
> Rod
>
>
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 08:52, Peter Edwards <peter at dragonstaff.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony and all,
>> what do you think about adding our virtual PM to this wiki page?
>> https://github.com/perlorg/www.pm.org/wiki/The-Meetings-Page
>> It was suggested by the Perl Weekly newsletter editors.
>>
>> Cheers, Peter
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list
>> MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org
>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm
>
> _______________________________________________
> MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list
> MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm

From tom at eborcom.com  Mon Jul 20 02:13:10 2020
From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 09:13:10 +0000
Subject: Online wiki of virtual PMs
In-Reply-To: <CANu2z+Enf5uZc1uhwKBtwFzfrM_LqjHsU2s0Z-O3rCCHD_faoQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAL+Fsen_Jec-z_tN+FDM7twe4hm7Q0y3xYjzSKuVppY2KFhXmA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20200720091310.GC26143@eborcom.com>

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:06:55AM +0100, Rod Norfor wrote:
> Maybe we should change our home page to have details of the virtual PM as
> well.

The group's home page at http://miltonkeynes.pm.org/ is linked to from
lots of places across the Web and still points to an AdminLTE page which
contains no useful information.

Tom

From tony.edwardson at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 12:59:06 2020
From: tony.edwardson at gmail.com (Tony Edwardson)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 20:59:06 +0100
Subject: Online wiki of virtual PMs
In-Reply-To: <20200720091310.GC26143@eborcom.com>
References: <CAL+Fsen_Jec-z_tN+FDM7twe4hm7Q0y3xYjzSKuVppY2KFhXmA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANu2z+Enf5uZc1uhwKBtwFzfrM_LqjHsU2s0Z-O3rCCHD_faoQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20200720091310.GC26143@eborcom.com>
Message-ID: <CAPP0y65p2sH3bgfL3LGYNVi2U2wLH4-3nTpj=a+wcr2=tSXBAw@mail.gmail.com>

working on it

On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 10:13, Tom Hukins <tom at eborcom.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:06:55AM +0100, Rod Norfor wrote:
> > Maybe we should change our home page to have details of the virtual PM as
> > well.
>
> The group's home page at http://miltonkeynes.pm.org/ is linked to from
> lots of places across the Web and still points to an AdminLTE page which
> contains no useful information.
>
> Tom
> _______________________________________________
> MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list
> MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm
>
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From tony at edwardson.co.uk  Fri Jul 24 04:28:40 2020
From: tony at edwardson.co.uk (Tony Edwardson)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 12:28:40 +0100
Subject: Online wiki of virtual PMs
In-Reply-To: <20200720091310.GC26143@eborcom.com>
References: <CAL+Fsen_Jec-z_tN+FDM7twe4hm7Q0y3xYjzSKuVppY2KFhXmA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANu2z+Enf5uZc1uhwKBtwFzfrM_LqjHsU2s0Z-O3rCCHD_faoQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <20200720091310.GC26143@eborcom.com>
Message-ID: <afac22d1-9401-fc29-294c-83ce97b43d69@edwardson.co.uk>

Sorted - was redirecting to an old server

On 20/07/2020 10:13, Tom Hukins wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:06:55AM +0100, Rod Norfor wrote:
>> Maybe we should change our home page to have details of the virtual PM as
>> well.
> The group's home page at http://miltonkeynes.pm.org/ is linked to from
> lots of places across the Web and still points to an AdminLTE page which
> contains no useful information.
>
> Tom
> _______________________________________________
> MiltonKeynes-pm mailing list
> MiltonKeynes-pm at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/miltonkeynes-pm