From tom at eborcom.com  Mon Apr  6 04:00:42 2009
From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:00:42 +0100
Subject: Technical Meeting: Thursday 16th April, 2009
Message-ID: <20090406110042.GB34175@eborcom.com>

Milton Keynes Perl Mongers will hold our second technical meeting of
2009 on Thursday 16th April at the Open University's Systems Seminar
Room.  Arrive at 7pm so the first talk can start promptly at 7.15.

Please join us and invite your friends and acquantances who might like
to learn about Perl.

We have the following talks lined up:

Colin Bradford will tell us more about memcached after his brief
introduction to it last time.  This talk covers using distributed
caching to improve performance and scale web applications.

Peter Edwards will tell us about WxWidgets, a cross platform GUI
development library.  Peter will share his experience installing
WxWidgets and programming some simple applications.

Tony Edwardson will give an introduction to Moose - the new way to use
Object orientation from Perl 5.

Tom Hukins will talk about writing code as if it's for CPAN so you can
benefit from the toolset used to build public modules in your private
code.

Finally, remember to arrive at the OU for 7pm on Thursday 16th April.
Here's how to find us:
 First, find the OU campus as described at http://www3.open.ac.uk/contact/

 Enter the campus (signposted Open University, not Open University East),
 via Brickhill Street (V10).

 Take the middle lane past Security (on the left), through the barriers, and
 then turn right on to Ring road East.

 Ahead you will see the road narrows to single lane on your side of the road,
 where there are no entry signs.  Just prior to this is the entrance to a car
 park on the left (marked East parking extension on the campus map).  Take
 this left turn and head to the top right (North West on the campus map) of
 the car park.

 The meeting is in Venables Building, specifically the section marked South
 East on the campus map.

 Take the path (marked in yellow on the campus map) East from the car park
 toward the centre of campus.

 Take a right under an archway in to the courtyard area bound by Venables
 South, East, and South East, keeping right (heading North East on the campus
 map), behind the building section marked South East.

 You will find a double door on your right, which is Entrance G at the
 South East section of Venables Building.

 We'll see you there, as these are usually access controlled doors, so you
 will probably need to be let in.

If you haven't attended one of our meetings at the OU before, I
encourage you to ask for someone's phone number in case you have trouble
finding us.  If you need a lift to the meeting, please ask.

See you on the 16th,
Tom

From ziya at suzen.net  Tue Apr  7 08:59:10 2009
From: ziya at suzen.net (Ziya Suzen)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:59:10 +0100
Subject: MVC and Catalyst tutorials
Message-ID: <7e7471f80904070859mcc38912v9a833db75c795bd8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there

Do you know of any good MVC and Catalyst tutorials?

Cheers

-z
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From pm at flodhest.net  Tue Apr  7 09:12:55 2009
From: pm at flodhest.net (Jan Henning Thorsen)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:12:55 +0200
Subject: MVC and Catalyst tutorials
In-Reply-To: <7e7471f80904070859mcc38912v9a833db75c795bd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e7471f80904070859mcc38912v9a833db75c795bd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1afcfe7a0904070912v13434deby8bcc4b815b726300@mail.gmail.com>

Have you looked at the catalyst tutorials?

http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Runtime/lib/Catalyst/Manual.pm

___
.jht

2009/4/7 Ziya Suzen <ziya at suzen.net>

> Hi there
>
> Do you know of any good MVC and Catalyst tutorials?
>
> Cheers
>
> -z
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ziya at suzen.net  Tue Apr  7 14:02:09 2009
From: ziya at suzen.net (Ziya Suzen)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:02:09 +0100
Subject: MVC and Catalyst tutorials
In-Reply-To: <1afcfe7a0904070912v13434deby8bcc4b815b726300@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e7471f80904070859mcc38912v9a833db75c795bd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<1afcfe7a0904070912v13434deby8bcc4b815b726300@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7e7471f80904071402h7f6d89fdq21723f89afd8c1ad@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Jan Henning Thorsen <pm at flodhest.net> wrote:
> Have you looked at the catalyst tutorials?
>
> http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Runtime/lib/Catalyst/Manual.pm
>

That great. But a little too detailed.. Sorry I should have been more
specific. It's not for me! This is for a programmer (writes C and
Fortran mainly, uses Perl for admin type of tasks) but not very
experienced in web programming. So I need some kind of web/mvc
tutorial ideally using catalyst (or two separate ones). I just don't
want to tell him to RTFM at this stage.

-z

From peter at dragonstaff.com  Tue Apr  7 14:24:33 2009
From: peter at dragonstaff.com (peter at dragonstaff.com)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:24:33 +0100
Subject: MVC and Catalyst tutorials
In-Reply-To: <7e7471f80904071402h7f6d89fdq21723f89afd8c1ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e7471f80904070859mcc38912v9a833db75c795bd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<1afcfe7a0904070912v13434deby8bcc4b815b726300@mail.gmail.com>
	<7e7471f80904071402h7f6d89fdq21723f89afd8c1ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090407222433.3k2kqac3kww88oc0@webmail.dragonstaff.com>

Quoting Ziya Suzen <ziya at suzen.net>:

> That great. But a little too detailed.. Sorry I should have been more
> specific. It's not for me! This is for a programmer (writes C and
> Fortran mainly, uses Perl for admin type of tasks)

I was reading your email on the London Midland train today and looked  
up and there you were walking past me! I waved but you did not see :)

Best wishes,
Peter




From tom at eborcom.com  Wed Apr  8 00:59:18 2009
From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:59:18 +0100
Subject: MVC and Catalyst tutorials
In-Reply-To: <7e7471f80904071402h7f6d89fdq21723f89afd8c1ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e7471f80904070859mcc38912v9a833db75c795bd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<1afcfe7a0904070912v13434deby8bcc4b815b726300@mail.gmail.com>
	<7e7471f80904071402h7f6d89fdq21723f89afd8c1ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090408075918.GA53888@eborcom.com>

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:02:09PM +0100, Ziya Suzen wrote:
> That great. But a little too detailed.. Sorry I should have been more
> specific. It's not for me! This is for a programmer (writes C and
> Fortran mainly, uses Perl for admin type of tasks) but not very
> experienced in web programming.

For learning MVC, I guess the Design Patterns book provides a good
description.  But I find it too dry and always get bored when I start
reading it.  Apparently others do too.  Some of them like Head First
Design Patterns but I found it too caroonty.  I've yet to find the
third Goldilocks "just right" book.

Anyway, I'm quite fond of Andy Wardley's critique of MVC:
http://wardley.org/computers/web/mvc.html

Still, I think the tutorials Jan mentioned provide a good hands-on
introduction to the basics of Catalyst, assuming you're using TT and
DBIx::Class.  I wonder whether your programmer might do better to
learn about these separate parts first before leaping into the glue
layer of Catalyst.

So that's all a bit ambiguous and doesn't answer your question, but I
hope it helps.

Tom

From oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Tue Apr 14 02:25:33 2009
From: oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Oliver Gorwits)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:25:33 +0100
Subject: MK Central train station --> Thursday meet
Message-ID: <49E4568D.6030009@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

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Hi folks,

Is anyone going to the meeting on Thursday, from the central
bus/train station area, that I could hitch along with?

If so, super! Please contact me off-list to exchange phone numbers etc.

(backup plan is there's a bus as well, so I'm not totally stuck)

cheers,
oliver.
- --
Oliver Gorwits, Network and Telecommunications Group,
Oxford University Computing Services
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From jj at jonallen.info  Tue Apr 14 02:31:53 2009
From: jj at jonallen.info (JJ)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:31:53 +0100
Subject: MK Central train station --> Thursday meet
In-Reply-To: <49E4568D.6030009@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <49E4568D.6030009@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <b198807b0904140231n5c57e841k5da11fc0e4211943@mail.gmail.com>

2009/4/14 Oliver Gorwits <oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk>:
> Is anyone going to the meeting on Thursday, from the central
> bus/train station area, that I could hitch along with?

I'll be getting the train from Birmingham, so we could meet at the
station and share a cab?


Cheers,

JJ

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From cjbradford at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 02:45:25 2009
From: cjbradford at gmail.com (Colin Bradford)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:45:25 +0100
Subject: MK Central train station --> Thursday meet
In-Reply-To: <b198807b0904140231n5c57e841k5da11fc0e4211943@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49E4568D.6030009@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<b198807b0904140231n5c57e841k5da11fc0e4211943@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3270acc60904140245i76a6425bn84bc598c361d1845@mail.gmail.com>

2009/4/14 JJ <jj at jonallen.info>:
> 2009/4/14 Oliver Gorwits <oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk>:
>> Is anyone going to the meeting on Thursday, from the central
>> bus/train station area, that I could hitch along with?
>
> I'll be getting the train from Birmingham, so we could meet at the
> station and share a cab?

I'm coming past the station on the way in - I can pick you both up on
the way past if you like.

Cheers,

Colin.

From tom at eborcom.com  Thu Apr 16 02:21:44 2009
From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:21:44 +0100
Subject: Technical Meeting: Thursday 16th April, 2009
In-Reply-To: <20090406110042.GB34175@eborcom.com>
References: <20090406110042.GB34175@eborcom.com>
Message-ID: <20090416092144.GA97886@eborcom.com>

On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:00:42PM +0100, Tom Hukins wrote:
> Milton Keynes Perl Mongers will hold our second technical meeting of
> 2009 on Thursday 16th April at the Open University's Systems Seminar
> Room.  Arrive at 7pm so the first talk can start promptly at 7.15.

Reminder: the meeting takes place this evening.

We'll go to the usual pub afterwards, from some time around 9.30, in
case anyone would like to join us but doesn't want to listen to the
talks.

See you later,
Tom

From barbie at missbarbell.co.uk  Thu Apr 16 03:25:51 2009
From: barbie at missbarbell.co.uk (Barbie)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:25:51 +0100
Subject: MK Central train station --> Thursday meet
In-Reply-To: <3270acc60904140245i76a6425bn84bc598c361d1845@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49E4568D.6030009@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<b198807b0904140231n5c57e841k5da11fc0e4211943@mail.gmail.com>
	<3270acc60904140245i76a6425bn84bc598c361d1845@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090416102551.GJ25330@smtp.blueyonder.co.uk>

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:45:25AM +0100, Colin Bradford wrote:
> 2009/4/14 JJ <jj at jonallen.info>:
> > 2009/4/14 Oliver Gorwits <oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk>:
> >> Is anyone going to the meeting on Thursday, from the central
> >> bus/train station area, that I could hitch along with?
> >
> > I'll be getting the train from Birmingham, so we could meet at the
> > station and share a cab?
> 
> I'm coming past the station on the way in - I can pick you both up on
> the way past if you like.

I'm likely to coming along with JJ tonight too, if that's okay :)

Cheers,
Barbie.
-- 
2009 QA Hackathon <http://qa-hackathon.org>
Birmingham Perl Mongers <http://birmingham.pm.org>
Memoirs Of A Roadie <http://barbie.missbarbell.co.uk>



From tony.edwardson at usa.net  Thu Apr 16 10:02:48 2009
From: tony.edwardson at usa.net (Tony Edwardson)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:02:48 +0100
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <D87A844A-3EE9-4617-8CE9-FEEFC70557AA@usa.net>



Sent from my iPhone

From jj at jonallen.info  Thu Apr 16 12:41:09 2009
From: jj at jonallen.info (JJ)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:41:09 +0100
Subject: Processor Affinity link
Message-ID: <b198807b0904161241s1e522f65v19c1f692e3b9fa27@mail.gmail.com>

Pinning processes to specific CPUs:
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html

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From tom at eborcom.com  Thu Apr 16 16:27:02 2009
From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:27:02 +0100
Subject: your mail
In-Reply-To: <D87A844A-3EE9-4617-8CE9-FEEFC70557AA@usa.net>
References: <D87A844A-3EE9-4617-8CE9-FEEFC70557AA@usa.net>
Message-ID: <20090416232702.GB1430@eborcom.com>

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 06:02:48PM +0100, Tony Edwardson wrote:
> Sent from my iPhone

Please replace the handset and try again:  I didn't see anything in
your message apart from that.  Did I miss something, or were you
playing with Acme::Bleach?

Tom

From jj at jonallen.info  Thu Apr 16 16:31:07 2009
From: jj at jonallen.info (JJ)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:31:07 +0100
Subject: your mail
In-Reply-To: <20090416232702.GB1430@eborcom.com>
References: <D87A844A-3EE9-4617-8CE9-FEEFC70557AA@usa.net>
	<20090416232702.GB1430@eborcom.com>
Message-ID: <b198807b0904161631i12cba98dgb7a878c296f7386d@mail.gmail.com>

2009/4/17 Tom Hukins <tom at eborcom.com>:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 06:02:48PM +0100, Tony Edwardson wrote:
>> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Please replace the handset and try again: ?I didn't see anything in
> your message apart from that. ?Did I miss something, or were you
> playing with Acme::Bleach?

I thought he was just demonstrating the features... ;-)

http://newsarse.com/2009/03/iphone-users-too-busy-demonstrating-features-to-make-calls/


Cheers,

JJ

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From peter at dragonstaff.co.uk  Fri Apr 17 00:09:36 2009
From: peter at dragonstaff.co.uk (Peter Edwards)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:09:36 +0100
Subject: Talk slides - WxWidgets
Message-ID: <e46269a0904170009y12f559au592d32556b7ea3a5@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all for the talks last night - some interesting stuff.
The slides for my talk "Introduction to WxWidgets" are now up at
http://perl.dragonstaff.co.uk

Cheers, Peter

-- 
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Dragonstaff Limited
IT Consultancy, Design, Branding and Websites
http://www.dragonstaff.com
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From tom at eborcom.com  Mon Apr 20 03:49:05 2009
From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:49:05 +0100
Subject: All Slides Online (Was: Talk slides - WxWidgets)
In-Reply-To: <e46269a0904170009y12f559au592d32556b7ea3a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e46269a0904170009y12f559au592d32556b7ea3a5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090420104904.GA68197@eborcom.com>

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:09:36AM +0100, Peter Edwards wrote:
> Thanks all for the talks last night - some interesting stuff.
> The slides for my talk "Introduction to WxWidgets" are now up at
> http://perl.dragonstaff.co.uk

Yes, thanks again to everyone for an enjoyable meeting.  We now have
slides online for all talks that had them:
http://miltonkeynes.pm.org/

I've tentatively scheduled our next set of talks for some time in
July.  If you would like to present a talk, mail me with its title,
duration and a brief synopsis.

See you all on the 28th for the next social meeting, just over a week
away.

Tom

From oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Wed Apr 22 01:06:42 2009
From: oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Oliver Gorwits)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:06:42 +0100
Subject: Iron-Man blogging
Message-ID: <49EED012.7000407@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

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So if you've not seen it already, our friend mst (and co at
Shadowcat) is encouraging us to start blogging about Perl:

   http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/iron-man/

This isn't going to be too difficult (FLW!) as I seem to work on a
lot of Perl every day at the moment; except for one thing...

use.perl.org is terrible. awful. painful. hideous.

So where should I go? I'm a sysadmin all day, so I don't want to
come home and be nursing Moveable Type or similar on a co-lo of my own.

I tried livejournal once, and, well that sucks too. I'm very much
liking the look of http://squarespace.com/. I want something which
can cope well with code snippets, of course.

Any suggestions? Cheaper the better, natch.

- --
Oliver Gorwits, Network and Telecommunications Group,
Oxford University Computing Services
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From peter at dragonstaff.com  Wed Apr 22 01:34:57 2009
From: peter at dragonstaff.com (peter at dragonstaff.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:34:57 +0100
Subject: Iron-Man blogging
In-Reply-To: <49EED012.7000407@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <49EED012.7000407@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20090422093457.gcwv3n7w0o0gk4cg@webmail.dragonstaff.com>

> So if you've not seen it already, our friend mst (and co at
> Shadowcat) is encouraging us to start blogging about Perl:
>
>    http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/iron-man/

> use.perl.org is terrible. awful. painful. hideous.
> ...
> Any suggestions? Cheaper the better, natch.

I use Google's one which you can reach from google.co.uk via the  
"more" / "even  more" / "Blogger" links or direct at http://blogger.com.
That gives me a blog at http://dragonstaff.blogspot.com.
It's really easy to use. Nice range of themes.
I had similar thoughts to you on the other offerings out there!


Regards, Peter
http://perl.dragonstaff.co.uk






From tom at eborcom.com  Thu Apr 23 03:47:59 2009
From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:47:59 +0100
Subject: Iron-Man blogging
In-Reply-To: <49EED012.7000407@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
References: <49EED012.7000407@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <20090423104759.GA22618@eborcom.com>

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 09:06:42AM +0100, Oliver Gorwits wrote:
> So if you've not seen it already, our friend mst (and co at
> Shadowcat) is encouraging us to start blogging about Perl:
> 
>    http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/blog/matt-s-trout/iron-man/

Go, Matt!  I don't fancy myself as any kind of iron man - I might rust
- but I thought I'd get into the spirit of it by writing up my
thoughts on last week's technical meeting:
  http://use.perl.org/~tomhukins/journal/38855

> use.perl.org is terrible. awful. painful. hideous.

I happened to talk about this with a colleague the other day.  We both
write on use.perl, despite its weaknesses.  It acts as a centralised
news source for Perl, so people don't need to follow lots of
fragmented blogs:
  http://use.perl.org/search.pl?op=journals;content_type=atom

Sorry, Oliver, this doesn't help with your question, but thanks for
prompting me into writing a little about Perl.

Tom

From webmaster at cosmicperl.com  Thu Apr 23 05:36:20 2009
From: webmaster at cosmicperl.com (Lyle)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:36:20 +0100
Subject: Iron-Man blogging
In-Reply-To: <20090423104759.GA22618@eborcom.com>
References: <49EED012.7000407@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
	<20090423104759.GA22618@eborcom.com>
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From andyfrommk at googlemail.com  Thu Apr 23 12:56:32 2009
From: andyfrommk at googlemail.com (Andy Selby)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:56:32 +0100
Subject: Meeting: Tue 28th April
Message-ID: <27183a390904231256o7931d58j62d15c9845a04a53@mail.gmail.com>

#!/usr/bin/perl

use Standard::Invite;

my $venue = 'JD_Weatherspoons';

{
if you=>$venue
then print "See you there";
}

....Ahh, sod it,
my pseudo code is as bad as my real code, you know the drill

The monthly MKLUG/MiltonKeynes.pm meet-up is nearly upon us!

As ever, it will be held at the Wetherspoons pub, near the railway
station (not the one in the snow dome), next door to Chiquitos:

http://miltonkeynes.openguides.org/?J.D_Wetherspoon%2C_Central_Milton_Keynes

Starting from 8pm, and going on till the last people stumble off home.
Feel free to bring your laptop/Linux device along if you want a hand/to
show off.

Andy

From tom at eborcom.com  Thu Apr 23 13:22:38 2009
From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:22:38 +0100
Subject: Meeting: Tue 28th April
In-Reply-To: <27183a390904231256o7931d58j62d15c9845a04a53@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27183a390904231256o7931d58j62d15c9845a04a53@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090423202238.GC31878@eborcom.com>

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 08:56:32PM +0100, Andy Selby wrote:
> my pseudo code is as bad as my real code, you know the drill

Hehe, nice announcement, Andy.

> Starting from 8pm, and going on till the last people stumble off home.

I plan to arrive around 7 so if anyone wants to show up early, I'll
appreciate the company.  We only meet at 8 because I used to arrive
early and nobody else showed up, but that was years ago now.

If you've not been to a meeting before or if you might have trouble
recognising me, please mail me off-list for my mobile number.

See you all on the 28th,
Tom

From andyfrommk at googlemail.com  Thu Apr 23 13:52:48 2009
From: andyfrommk at googlemail.com (Andy Selby)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:52:48 +0100
Subject: Meeting: Tue 28th April
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2009/4/23 Tom Hukins <tom at eborcom.com>:
> Hehe, nice announcement, Andy.

Thanks

>> Starting from 8pm, and going on till the last people stumble off home.
>
> I plan to arrive around 7 so if anyone wants to show up early, I'll
> appreciate the company.

A good idea, since the weather is warming up it might be hard to get a
large table, we had difficulty getting a table for all of us after the
tech meet.

See you around 7 O'clock.

Andy

From oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Sat Apr 25 04:08:43 2009
From: oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Oliver Gorwits)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:08:43 +0100
Subject: shipping support data with CPAN dists
Message-ID: <49F2EF3B.8050501@oucs.ox.ac.uk>

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Hi folks,

I'm working on a new Perl module which will be sent to the CPAN. The
module does some work using reference data, which I've currently got
in XML format.

I'd like to ship these XML files with the distribution so the
installed module can use them, but I don't know the best way to go
about this.

There are three or four XML files, which makes using __DATA__ a bit
impractical, plus I like having the separate XML files which can be
validated as I update them.

The only idea I have so far is to ship them in lib/.. and use a
FindBin hack to read them back. I'd rather have something portable,
and supported by say, Module::Install (which I use), but I couldn't
see such an option.

Any ideas to help me?

cheers,

- --
Oliver Gorwits, Network and Telecommunications Group,
Oxford University Computing Services
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From pm at gavinwestwood.co.uk  Sat Apr 25 04:45:38 2009
From: pm at gavinwestwood.co.uk (Gavin Westwood)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:45:38 +0100
Subject: Meeting: Tue 28th April
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Message-ID: <49F2F7E2.3090607@gavinwestwood.co.uk>

On 23/04/09 20:56, Andy Selby wrote:
> <snip>
> The monthly MKLUG/MiltonKeynes.pm meet-up is nearly upon us!
>
> As ever, it will be held at the Wetherspoons pub, near the railway
> station (not the one in the snow dome), next door to Chiquitos
> <snip>
>   

Thanks to Andy for jumping in with this - I've been really busy recently...
Hope to see some of you there.

Gavin


From oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk  Sat Apr 25 15:45:38 2009
From: oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Oliver Gorwits)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:45:38 +0100
Subject: shipping support data with CPAN dists - SOLVED
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Oliver Gorwits wrote:
> I'd like to ship these XML files with the distribution
> 
> I'd rather have something 
> portable, and supported by say, Module::Install (which I use), 

Jan encouraged me to have a closer look at Module::Install (thanks!)
and sure enough after a bit of poking around it includes a
Module::Install::Share (just not clearly mentioned IMHO).

"some distributions need to install read-only data files to a
location on the file system for use at run-time.

Module::Install::Share is a Module::Install extension that provides
commands to allow these files to be installed to the applicable
location on disk.

To locate the files after installation so they can be used inside
your module, see this extension's companion module File::ShareDir."

So there we go, I should be fine with this. For the benefit of the
list... how does this work in a portable fashion?

Well, it uses the .../auto subdir which gets created for all
installed modules for stashing files involved in some of the more
esoteric features of perl. The mechanism can be used by any module
for anything though, so File::ShareDir allows a module to load files
which have been stashed there. Pretty neat.

- --
Oliver Gorwits, Network and Telecommunications Group,
Oxford University Computing Services
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From pm at gavinwestwood.co.uk  Tue Apr 28 00:07:10 2009
From: pm at gavinwestwood.co.uk (Gavin Westwood)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:07:10 +0100
Subject: [Fwd: Meeting: Tue 28th April]
Message-ID: <49F6AB1E.5050608@gavinwestwood.co.uk>

Just to remind people this is tonight, see you there!

Gavin

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Meeting: Tue 28th April
Date: 	Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:56:32 +0100
From: 	Andy Selby <andyfrommk at googlemail.com>
Reply-To: 	andyfrommk at gmail.com
To: 	Milton Keynes Perl Mongers <miltonkeynes-pm at pm.org>



#!/usr/bin/perl

use Standard::Invite;

my $venue = 'JD_Weatherspoons';

{
if you=>$venue
then print "See you there";
}

....Ahh, sod it,
my pseudo code is as bad as my real code, you know the drill

The monthly MKLUG/MiltonKeynes.pm meet-up is nearly upon us!

As ever, it will be held at the Wetherspoons pub, near the railway
station (not the one in the snow dome), next door to Chiquitos:

http://miltonkeynes.openguides.org/?J.D_Wetherspoon%2C_Central_Milton_Keynes

Starting from 8pm, and going on till the last people stumble off home.
Feel free to bring your laptop/Linux device along if you want a hand/to
show off.

Andy
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From tom at eborcom.com  Thu Apr 30 15:09:38 2009
From: tom at eborcom.com (Tom Hukins)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:09:38 +0100
Subject: Talks: Tuesday, 14th July 2009
Message-ID: <20090430220938.GC36090@eborcom.com>

Right,

Our next technical meeting looks scarily well organised.  It's over
two months away and we have a date and almost a full schedule of
talks.

If we did performance related pay, the murky figures behind our
meetings would have topped up their pension funds, golden parachutes
and pizza deivery stockholdings before this whole thing collapses.
But we don't, so they're all wasting time on IRC and Facebook instead.

Oh yeah, the subject..

So, our next technical meeting will take place on Tuesday, 14th July
2009 at the Open University.  It has a database related theme, with a
few well placed distractions into other areas.  I'll save the formal
announcement for later.

Anyway, we have a few spare slots for lightning talks.  If you want to
spend 5 minutes telling us about what you've been up to, please mail
me now to avoid disappointment.  If you'd like to present a full
length talk, there's no harm in mailing me your offers for October.

Have a great Bank Holiday weekend,
Tom