From a.r.ferreira at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 06:01:46 2012
From: a.r.ferreira at gmail.com (Adriano Ferreira)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:01:46 -0200
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Invalid use of Exporter as a parent of a class
In-Reply-To: <20121128064754.GR19913@bjdean.id.au>
References: <20121128064754.GR19913@bjdean.id.au>
Message-ID: <CAEfK6gdewq1zF7CsnCuJ7SjBX_ATR=amW=qOGfAfW=bwwr7Xsg@mail.gmail.com>

As a matter of fact, the Exporter documentation gives arguments for
this approach (not inheriting from Exporter:

http://search.cpan.org/~toddr/Exporter-5.67/lib/Exporter.pm#Exporting_Without_Inheriting_from_Exporter

Exporting Without Inheriting from Exporter

By including Exporter in your @ISA you inherit an Exporter's import()
method but you also inherit several other helper methods which you
probably don't want. To avoid this you can do

  package YourModule;
  use Exporter qw( import );

which will export Exporter's own import() method into YourModule.
Everything will work as before but you won't need to include Exporter
in @YourModule::ISA.

Note: This feature was introduced in version 5.57 of Exporter,
released with perl 5.8.3.

####

But as someone else in the thread mentioned, Sub::Exporter can be even
nicer and even more if combined with lexical & compile-time exports.
(Though it can look overkill to make something that looks ordinary as
exporting.)

Best,
Adriano




On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Bradley Dean <bjdean at bjdean.id.au> wrote:
> Greetings folks,
>
> I've found myself having a conversation about why Exporter shouldn't be
> included in the base of a class-defining perl module. This is my position,
> such that this would be very bad code:
>
>   # Bad code, don't inherit from Exporter in a class
>   package My::Class;
>   use base qw(Foo Bar Exporter);
>   ...
>
> I can't think of any good reason to do this - but my partner-in-discussion
> has invoked "Damian Conway's methods" (Hi Damian, sorry to cause teeth
> grinding if this does so) so I thought I'd see if I was missing something.
>
> To my mind the only reason that someone would be tempted to inherit from
> Exporter in a class was if you also wanted to export functions - and even
> then the problems of then creating invalid inherited 'methods' from
> Exporter would make this a horrible solution.
>
> So then, thoughts?
>
> Cheerio,
>
>  Brad
>
> --
> Bradley Dean
> Email: bjdean at bjdean.id.au Skype: skype at bjdean.id.au
> Mobile(Aus): +61-413014395 WWW: http://bjdean.id.au/
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From benhare at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 18:17:02 2012
From: benhare at gmail.com (Ben Hare)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:47:02 +1030
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] experienced LAMP developer sought for work on hourly
	/ project basis
Message-ID: <CALOH2dUhL68CxvaSAUyLp30TrxZ7mtGaFPs36AhrV9GND_dBug@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am looking to forge a relationship with an experienced LAMP type
developer to handle "overflow" work on an hourly rate basis. The
person would ideally be able to take on small project work at short
notice and complete it in a timely manner. Please note the work will
be on an as needed / irregular basis.

The development environment and technologies that you will need to be
familiar with:

* Perl ( 5.10.1 )
* OO programming and test driven development
* Catalyst w/ mod_fastcgi )
* Apache
* MySQL
* JavaScript ( Prototype, Ext, JQuery )
* XHTML
* CSS
* W3C standards compliance
* Subversion
* CentOS ( 6 )

Experience with PHP and sys. admin. skills would be advantageous.

If interested, please contact me via email reply with expected hourly
rate and brief summary of experience ( or if I know you, just for a
chat! ).

Some more information about me can be found at www.benhare.com.

PS: Please feel free to forward this email to anyone else who may be interested.

Thanks,

Ben Hare.

From rickginer at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 18:59:45 2012
From: rickginer at gmail.com (Rick Giner)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:59:45 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Looking for a Perl consult... problem with sessions
Message-ID: <50BC15A1.7070102@gmail.com>

I wonder if anyone can help. This may only take a short time to debug 
for someone in the know. More than happy to compensate for any time 
spent on it...

It's been a long while since I have worked with Perl, I am in a Ruby 
role right now but we have an old (12 year old) Perl website that 
stopped working after the server rebooted. The shopping cart did, anyway.

It seems to be trying to read session information relating to the 
shopping cart, the error showing up in the log is a "Could not open file 
'/var/lock/session/Apache-Session-blah.lock' for writing: No such file 
or directory at /usr/share/perl/5.8/CGI/Carp.pm line 314". The /session/ 
folder it refers to doesn't actually exist, though even after I created 
it the error persists and no session files are being written.

If anyone has any time to help, we would greatly appreciate it and can 
arrange for a console into the server and much beer + cash prizes for 
anyone that helps solve our problem!

Many thanks,

Rick Giner
0416 500 924
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From alienspaces at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 19:06:40 2012
From: alienspaces at gmail.com (Benjamin)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:06:40 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Looking for a Perl consult... problem with
	sessions
In-Reply-To: <50BC15A1.7070102@gmail.com>
References: <50BC15A1.7070102@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZQHSty64JZm8mWeZaoxAGbjwKh114He65LTx-TYJ52TWF3Dw@mail.gmail.com>

Appears to be using Apache::Session somewhere in there and sounds a lot
like permission issues.

Have you recently moved the site to a new environment or upgraded the host
OS?

Can you grep the Perl source for the application for "Apache::Session" and
grab the chunk of related code?

Ben



On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Rick Giner <rickginer at gmail.com> wrote:

>  I wonder if anyone can help. This may only take a short time to debug for
> someone in the know. More than happy to compensate for any time spent on
> it...
>
> It's been a long while since I have worked with Perl, I am in a Ruby role
> right now but we have an old (12 year old) Perl website that stopped
> working after the server rebooted. The shopping cart did, anyway.
>
> It seems to be trying to read session information relating to the shopping
> cart, the error showing up in the log is a "Could not open file
> '/var/lock/session/Apache-Session-blah.lock' for writing: No such file or
> directory at */usr/share/perl/5.8/CGI/Carp.pm line 314". The /session/*folder it refers to doesn't actually exist, though even after I created it
> the error persists and no session files are being written.
>
> If anyone has any time to help, we would greatly appreciate it and can
> arrange for a console into the server and much beer + cash prizes for
> anyone that helps solve our problem!
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Rick Giner
> 0416 500 924
>
> _______________________________________________
> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
>
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From benhare at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 19:23:13 2012
From: benhare at gmail.com (Ben Hare)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:53:13 +1030
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Looking for a Perl consult... problem with
	sessions
In-Reply-To: <50BC15A1.7070102@gmail.com>
References: <50BC15A1.7070102@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALOH2dVeQBfkamROUNqjOR8heUS43kuU7nuKHrf_F2AnxCTOHQ@mail.gmail.com>

if nothing's changed software wise since last reboot probably simple as:

* recreate the path it's trying to write session info to as you have
* set session dir permissions correctly ( probably needs to be
writeable by whatever user the web server is running as ). eg;
/var/lock will be root, apache will be running as something else.

Ben.

On 3 December 2012 13:29, Rick Giner <rickginer at gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if anyone can help. This may only take a short time to debug for
> someone in the know. More than happy to compensate for any time spent on
> it...
>
> It's been a long while since I have worked with Perl, I am in a Ruby role
> right now but we have an old (12 year old) Perl website that stopped working
> after the server rebooted. The shopping cart did, anyway.
>
> It seems to be trying to read session information relating to the shopping
> cart, the error showing up in the log is a "Could not open file
> '/var/lock/session/Apache-Session-blah.lock' for writing: No such file or
> directory at /usr/share/perl/5.8/CGI/Carp.pm line 314". The /session/ folder
> it refers to doesn't actually exist, though even after I created it the
> error persists and no session files are being written.
>
> If anyone has any time to help, we would greatly appreciate it and can
> arrange for a console into the server and much beer + cash prizes for anyone
> that helps solve our problem!
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Rick Giner
> 0416 500 924
>
> _______________________________________________
> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm



-- 
Benjamin J. Hare
Professional Web Development Services
ABN: 22-48-55-71-887
Phone: +61-415-607-197
Web: http://www.benhare.com
Email: ben at benhare.com

From rickginer at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 19:23:12 2012
From: rickginer at gmail.com (Rick Giner)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:23:12 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Looking for a Perl consult... problem with
	sessions
In-Reply-To: <CAAZQHSty64JZm8mWeZaoxAGbjwKh114He65LTx-TYJ52TWF3Dw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50BC15A1.7070102@gmail.com>
	<CAAZQHSty64JZm8mWeZaoxAGbjwKh114He65LTx-TYJ52TWF3Dw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50BC1B20.90802@gmail.com>

I came to the same conclusion, but Apache::Session doesn't appear in the 
codebase. Is it possible that other files could be being used outside 
the web root?

What do you think might require permissions? I have added the /sessions/ 
folder and given it ownership of www-data (same as Apache) and even 
tried permissions 777. Are there other folders I should be lookign at? 
Or particular users I should try executing processes as?

To my knowledge the OS hasn't been changed recently, but I don't think 
it was a well-maintained box. When I restarted it last week Apache 
complained about missing files from sites that had been decommissioned, 
but their definitions not removed from sites-enabled - so someone had 
been tinkering in there and not properly tidying up after themselves. No 
idea when the box was last restarted, but it's quite possible modules 
were uninstalled or changed months ago and no one would have noticed 
until the box was restarted last week



On 3/12/12 2:06 PM, Benjamin wrote:
>
> Appears to be using Apache::Session somewhere in there and sounds a 
> lot like permission issues.
>
> Have you recently moved the site to a new environment or upgraded the 
> host OS?
>
> Can you grep the Perl source for the application for "Apache::Session" 
> and grab the chunk of related code?
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Rick Giner <rickginer at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rickginer at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I wonder if anyone can help. This may only take a short time to
>     debug for someone in the know. More than happy to compensate for
>     any time spent on it...
>
>     It's been a long while since I have worked with Perl, I am in a
>     Ruby role right now but we have an old (12 year old) Perl website
>     that stopped working after the server rebooted. The shopping cart
>     did, anyway.
>
>     It seems to be trying to read session information relating to the
>     shopping cart, the error showing up in the log is a "Could not
>     open file '/var/lock/session/Apache-Session-blah.lock' for
>     writing: No such file or directory at
>     //usr/share/perl/5.8/CGI/Carp.pm line 314". The /session// folder
>     it refers to doesn't actually exist, though even after I created
>     it the error persists and no session files are being written.
>
>     If anyone has any time to help, we would greatly appreciate it and
>     can arrange for a console into the server and much beer + cash
>     prizes for anyone that helps solve our problem!
>
>     Many thanks,
>
>     Rick Giner
>     0416 500 924 <tel:0416%20500%20924>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Melbourne-pm mailing list
>     Melbourne-pm at pm.org <mailto:Melbourne-pm at pm.org>
>     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
>
>

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From benhare at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 19:26:02 2012
From: benhare at gmail.com (Ben Hare)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:56:02 +1030
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Looking for a Perl consult... problem with
	sessions
In-Reply-To: <50BC1B20.90802@gmail.com>
References: <50BC15A1.7070102@gmail.com>
	<CAAZQHSty64JZm8mWeZaoxAGbjwKh114He65LTx-TYJ52TWF3Dw@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BC1B20.90802@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALOH2dVtPkkvWicFuMEqFF9qWhJ=dDWp-U9mCUNDSG4E_xSbYA@mail.gmail.com>

the error you gave doesn't seem to indicate apache-session is missing
necessarily. perhaps you need to restart apache after fixing the
permissions? ( if it's mod-perl you will ).

On 3 December 2012 13:53, Rick Giner <rickginer at gmail.com> wrote:
> I came to the same conclusion, but Apache::Session doesn't appear in the
> codebase. Is it possible that other files could be being used outside the
> web root?
>
> What do you think might require permissions? I have added the /sessions/
> folder and given it ownership of www-data (same as Apache) and even tried
> permissions 777. Are there other folders I should be lookign at? Or
> particular users I should try executing processes as?
>
> To my knowledge the OS hasn't been changed recently, but I don't think it
> was a well-maintained box. When I restarted it last week Apache complained
> about missing files from sites that had been decommissioned, but their
> definitions not removed from sites-enabled - so someone had been tinkering
> in there and not properly tidying up after themselves. No idea when the box
> was last restarted, but it's quite possible modules were uninstalled or
> changed months ago and no one would have noticed until the box was restarted
> last week
>
>
>
>
> On 3/12/12 2:06 PM, Benjamin wrote:
>
>
> Appears to be using Apache::Session somewhere in there and sounds a lot like
> permission issues.
>
> Have you recently moved the site to a new environment or upgraded the host
> OS?
>
> Can you grep the Perl source for the application for "Apache::Session" and
> grab the chunk of related code?
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Rick Giner <rickginer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if anyone can help. This may only take a short time to debug for
>> someone in the know. More than happy to compensate for any time spent on
>> it...
>>
>> It's been a long while since I have worked with Perl, I am in a Ruby role
>> right now but we have an old (12 year old) Perl website that stopped working
>> after the server rebooted. The shopping cart did, anyway.
>>
>> It seems to be trying to read session information relating to the shopping
>> cart, the error showing up in the log is a "Could not open file
>> '/var/lock/session/Apache-Session-blah.lock' for writing: No such file or
>> directory at /usr/share/perl/5.8/CGI/Carp.pm line 314". The /session/ folder
>> it refers to doesn't actually exist, though even after I created it the
>> error persists and no session files are being written.
>>
>> If anyone has any time to help, we would greatly appreciate it and can
>> arrange for a console into the server and much beer + cash prizes for anyone
>> that helps solve our problem!
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Rick Giner
>> 0416 500 924
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Melbourne-pm mailing list
>> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm



-- 
Benjamin J. Hare
Professional Web Development Services
ABN: 22-48-55-71-887
Phone: +61-415-607-197
Web: http://www.benhare.com
Email: ben at benhare.com

From benhare at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 19:26:56 2012
From: benhare at gmail.com (Ben Hare)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:56:56 +1030
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Looking for a Perl consult... problem with
	sessions
In-Reply-To: <CALOH2dVtPkkvWicFuMEqFF9qWhJ=dDWp-U9mCUNDSG4E_xSbYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50BC15A1.7070102@gmail.com>
	<CAAZQHSty64JZm8mWeZaoxAGbjwKh114He65LTx-TYJ52TWF3Dw@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BC1B20.90802@gmail.com>
	<CALOH2dVtPkkvWicFuMEqFF9qWhJ=dDWp-U9mCUNDSG4E_xSbYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALOH2dXh61izL0WunRUFk3Wni4ACob8WAOh=S2Tj0hEoym+yrw@mail.gmail.com>

actually, you probably shouldn't have to really but i would try it anyway.

On 3 December 2012 13:56, Ben Hare <benhare at gmail.com> wrote:
> the error you gave doesn't seem to indicate apache-session is missing
> necessarily. perhaps you need to restart apache after fixing the
> permissions? ( if it's mod-perl you will ).
>
> On 3 December 2012 13:53, Rick Giner <rickginer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I came to the same conclusion, but Apache::Session doesn't appear in the
>> codebase. Is it possible that other files could be being used outside the
>> web root?
>>
>> What do you think might require permissions? I have added the /sessions/
>> folder and given it ownership of www-data (same as Apache) and even tried
>> permissions 777. Are there other folders I should be lookign at? Or
>> particular users I should try executing processes as?
>>
>> To my knowledge the OS hasn't been changed recently, but I don't think it
>> was a well-maintained box. When I restarted it last week Apache complained
>> about missing files from sites that had been decommissioned, but their
>> definitions not removed from sites-enabled - so someone had been tinkering
>> in there and not properly tidying up after themselves. No idea when the box
>> was last restarted, but it's quite possible modules were uninstalled or
>> changed months ago and no one would have noticed until the box was restarted
>> last week
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/12 2:06 PM, Benjamin wrote:
>>
>>
>> Appears to be using Apache::Session somewhere in there and sounds a lot like
>> permission issues.
>>
>> Have you recently moved the site to a new environment or upgraded the host
>> OS?
>>
>> Can you grep the Perl source for the application for "Apache::Session" and
>> grab the chunk of related code?
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Rick Giner <rickginer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder if anyone can help. This may only take a short time to debug for
>>> someone in the know. More than happy to compensate for any time spent on
>>> it...
>>>
>>> It's been a long while since I have worked with Perl, I am in a Ruby role
>>> right now but we have an old (12 year old) Perl website that stopped working
>>> after the server rebooted. The shopping cart did, anyway.
>>>
>>> It seems to be trying to read session information relating to the shopping
>>> cart, the error showing up in the log is a "Could not open file
>>> '/var/lock/session/Apache-Session-blah.lock' for writing: No such file or
>>> directory at /usr/share/perl/5.8/CGI/Carp.pm line 314". The /session/ folder
>>> it refers to doesn't actually exist, though even after I created it the
>>> error persists and no session files are being written.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any time to help, we would greatly appreciate it and can
>>> arrange for a console into the server and much beer + cash prizes for anyone
>>> that helps solve our problem!
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Rick Giner
>>> 0416 500 924
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Melbourne-pm mailing list
>>> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Melbourne-pm mailing list
>> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
>
>
>
> --
> Benjamin J. Hare
> Professional Web Development Services
> ABN: 22-48-55-71-887
> Phone: +61-415-607-197
> Web: http://www.benhare.com
> Email: ben at benhare.com



-- 
Benjamin J. Hare
Professional Web Development Services
ABN: 22-48-55-71-887
Phone: +61-415-607-197
Web: http://www.benhare.com
Email: ben at benhare.com

From alienspaces at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 19:34:03 2012
From: alienspaces at gmail.com (Benjamin)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:34:03 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Looking for a Perl consult... problem with
	sessions
In-Reply-To: <CALOH2dXh61izL0WunRUFk3Wni4ACob8WAOh=S2Tj0hEoym+yrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50BC15A1.7070102@gmail.com>
	<CAAZQHSty64JZm8mWeZaoxAGbjwKh114He65LTx-TYJ52TWF3Dw@mail.gmail.com>
	<50BC1B20.90802@gmail.com>
	<CALOH2dVtPkkvWicFuMEqFF9qWhJ=dDWp-U9mCUNDSG4E_xSbYA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALOH2dXh61izL0WunRUFk3Wni4ACob8WAOh=S2Tj0hEoym+yrw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAZQHSvNFd_JvQRnwid8-xHKbaRPqa0XK4CczFoH1hEb+1d0ZA@mail.gmail.com>

Rick,

"Is it possible that other files could be being used outside the web root?"

perl -e 'print join "\n", @INC;'

Will list all locations Perl is looking for modules.

Apache::Session is not missing itself but some module somewhere is
obviously using it.

Apache::Session is able to be told where its lock files are to be stored.

There is a good chance that if the directory /var/lock/sessions was not
present before then whatever the code is that is using Apache::Session may
have specified a different location (just a guess there..)

Do you know where the 'shopping cart' code itself came from? Is the
application based on some other known framework that might aid is giving us
some clues?

Ben




On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Ben Hare <benhare at gmail.com> wrote:

> actually, you probably shouldn't have to really but i would try it anyway.
>
> On 3 December 2012 13:56, Ben Hare <benhare at gmail.com> wrote:
> > the error you gave doesn't seem to indicate apache-session is missing
> > necessarily. perhaps you need to restart apache after fixing the
> > permissions? ( if it's mod-perl you will ).
> >
> > On 3 December 2012 13:53, Rick Giner <rickginer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I came to the same conclusion, but Apache::Session doesn't appear in the
> >> codebase. Is it possible that other files could be being used outside
> the
> >> web root?
> >>
> >> What do you think might require permissions? I have added the /sessions/
> >> folder and given it ownership of www-data (same as Apache) and even
> tried
> >> permissions 777. Are there other folders I should be lookign at? Or
> >> particular users I should try executing processes as?
> >>
> >> To my knowledge the OS hasn't been changed recently, but I don't think
> it
> >> was a well-maintained box. When I restarted it last week Apache
> complained
> >> about missing files from sites that had been decommissioned, but their
> >> definitions not removed from sites-enabled - so someone had been
> tinkering
> >> in there and not properly tidying up after themselves. No idea when the
> box
> >> was last restarted, but it's quite possible modules were uninstalled or
> >> changed months ago and no one would have noticed until the box was
> restarted
> >> last week
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/12/12 2:06 PM, Benjamin wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Appears to be using Apache::Session somewhere in there and sounds a lot
> like
> >> permission issues.
> >>
> >> Have you recently moved the site to a new environment or upgraded the
> host
> >> OS?
> >>
> >> Can you grep the Perl source for the application for "Apache::Session"
> and
> >> grab the chunk of related code?
> >>
> >> Ben
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Rick Giner <rickginer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if anyone can help. This may only take a short time to debug
> for
> >>> someone in the know. More than happy to compensate for any time spent
> on
> >>> it...
> >>>
> >>> It's been a long while since I have worked with Perl, I am in a Ruby
> role
> >>> right now but we have an old (12 year old) Perl website that stopped
> working
> >>> after the server rebooted. The shopping cart did, anyway.
> >>>
> >>> It seems to be trying to read session information relating to the
> shopping
> >>> cart, the error showing up in the log is a "Could not open file
> >>> '/var/lock/session/Apache-Session-blah.lock' for writing: No such file
> or
> >>> directory at /usr/share/perl/5.8/CGI/Carp.pm line 314". The /session/
> folder
> >>> it refers to doesn't actually exist, though even after I created it the
> >>> error persists and no session files are being written.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has any time to help, we would greatly appreciate it and can
> >>> arrange for a console into the server and much beer + cash prizes for
> anyone
> >>> that helps solve our problem!
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Rick Giner
> >>> 0416 500 924
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> >>> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> >> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Benjamin J. Hare
> > Professional Web Development Services
> > ABN: 22-48-55-71-887
> > Phone: +61-415-607-197
> > Web: http://www.benhare.com
> > Email: ben at benhare.com
>
>
>
> --
> Benjamin J. Hare
> Professional Web Development Services
> ABN: 22-48-55-71-887
> Phone: +61-415-607-197
> Web: http://www.benhare.com
> Email: ben at benhare.com
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From shlomif at shlomifish.org  Sun Dec  2 23:25:11 2012
From: shlomif at shlomifish.org (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:25:11 +0200
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] experienced LAMP developer sought for work on
 hourly / project basis
In-Reply-To: <CALOH2dUhL68CxvaSAUyLp30TrxZ7mtGaFPs36AhrV9GND_dBug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALOH2dUhL68CxvaSAUyLp30TrxZ7mtGaFPs36AhrV9GND_dBug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20121203092511.48c0ab88@lap.shlomifish.org>

Hi Ben,

On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:47:02 +1030
Ben Hare <benhare at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am looking to forge a relationship with an experienced LAMP type
> developer to handle "overflow" work on an hourly rate basis. The
> person would ideally be able to take on small project work at short
> notice and complete it in a timely manner. Please note the work will
> be on an as needed / irregular basis.
> 
> The development environment and technologies that you will need to be
> familiar with:
> 
> * Perl ( 5.10.1 )
> * OO programming and test driven development
> * Catalyst w/ mod_fastcgi )
> * Apache
> * MySQL
> * JavaScript ( Prototype, Ext, JQuery )
> * XHTML
> * CSS
> * W3C standards compliance
> * Subversion
> * CentOS ( 6 )
> 
> Experience with PHP and sys. admin. skills would be advantageous.
> 
> If interested, please contact me via email reply with expected hourly
> rate and brief summary of experience ( or if I know you, just for a
> chat! ).

Is this job on-site? If not, can I telecommute from my Tel Aviv, Israel home?

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

> 
> Some more information about me can be found at www.benhare.com.
> 
> PS: Please feel free to forward this email to anyone else who may be
> interested.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ben Hare.
> _______________________________________________
> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm



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<danderson> ?We are NO LONGER the knights who say ?BitKeeper?. We are now
the knights who say ?git, git, git, cogito ? Linus!?.?

Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .

From benhare at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 00:14:39 2012
From: benhare at gmail.com (Ben Hare)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 18:44:39 +1030
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] experienced LAMP developer sought for work on
 hourly / project basis
In-Reply-To: <20121203092511.48c0ab88@lap.shlomifish.org>
References: <CALOH2dUhL68CxvaSAUyLp30TrxZ7mtGaFPs36AhrV9GND_dBug@mail.gmail.com>
	<20121203092511.48c0ab88@lap.shlomifish.org>
Message-ID: <CALOH2dUUBwM-5QfLWEaOCAgUfA__8cQFavUigO+oNN5b0KTGRg@mail.gmail.com>

On 3 December 2012 17:55, Shlomi Fish <shlomif at shlomifish.org> wrote:
>
> Is this job on-site? If not, can I telecommute from my Tel Aviv, Israel home?

i forgot to mention that. yes it would be entirely telecommute ( i
work from home office myself ). normally i work via skype for calls /
chat and email.

overseas is fine, we would just need to agree on an hour at least each
day that you would be contactable via skype when working on something.
of course also note that remuneration would be in $AUD and based on AU
market rates.

thanks for interest. let me know if anything else.

cheers,

Ben.

>
> Regards,
>
>         Shlomi Fish
>
>>
>> Some more information about me can be found at www.benhare.com.
>>
>> PS: Please feel free to forward this email to anyone else who may be
>> interested.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ben Hare.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Melbourne-pm mailing list
>> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
>
>
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Shlomi Fish       http://www.shlomifish.org/
> The Case for File Swapping - http://shlom.in/file-swap
>
> <danderson> ?We are NO LONGER the knights who say ?BitKeeper?. We are now
> the knights who say ?git, git, git, cogito ? Linus!?.?
>
> Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .
> _______________________________________________
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> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm



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Professional Web Development Services
ABN: 22-48-55-71-887
Phone: +61-415-607-197
Web: http://www.benhare.com
Email: ben at benhare.com

From toby.corkindale at strategicdata.com.au  Mon Dec  3 16:02:42 2012
From: toby.corkindale at strategicdata.com.au (Toby Corkindale)
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 11:02:42 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] December Social
Message-ID: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>

Hi,
I've created a Facebook event for the December social meeting.
http://www.facebook.com/events/351649021597764/

Also a meetup.com event:
http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Perl-Mongers/events/93943452/

Location - please discuss. Let's try somewhere that isn't Beer Deluxe 
this time?

-Toby

From toby.corkindale at strategicdata.com.au  Sun Dec  9 19:22:39 2012
From: toby.corkindale at strategicdata.com.au (Toby Corkindale)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:22:39 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] December Social
In-Reply-To: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>
References: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>
Message-ID: <50C5557F.2040005@strategicdata.com.au>

Two days to go.. venue suggestions?

On 04/12/12 11:02, Toby Corkindale wrote:
> Hi,
> I've created a Facebook event for the December social meeting.
> http://www.facebook.com/events/351649021597764/
>
> Also a meetup.com event:
> http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Perl-Mongers/events/93943452/
>
> Location - please discuss. Let's try somewhere that isn't Beer Deluxe
> this time?
>
> -Toby
> _______________________________________________
> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm


From christopher.short at monash.edu  Sun Dec  9 19:26:07 2012
From: christopher.short at monash.edu (Christopher Short)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:26:07 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] December Social
In-Reply-To: <50C5557F.2040005@strategicdata.com.au>
References: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>
	<50C5557F.2040005@strategicdata.com.au>
Message-ID: <CA+FD6gwA_WMuMXZperNk5pahTO83oGjfQpnb2RHdp3EtoWMNUw@mail.gmail.com>

Mitre Tavern?

On 10 December 2012 14:22, Toby Corkindale <
toby.corkindale at strategicdata.com.au> wrote:

> Two days to go.. venue suggestions?
>
>
> On 04/12/12 11:02, Toby Corkindale wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I've created a Facebook event for the December social meeting.
>> http://www.facebook.com/**events/351649021597764/<http://www.facebook.com/events/351649021597764/>
>>
>> Also a meetup.com event:
>> http://www.meetup.com/**Melbourne-Perl-Mongers/events/**93943452/<http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Perl-Mongers/events/93943452/>
>>
>> Location - please discuss. Let's try somewhere that isn't Beer Deluxe
>> this time?
>>
>> -Toby
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> Melbourne-pm mailing list
>> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/**listinfo/melbourne-pm<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm>
>>
>
> ______________________________**_________________
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From tjc at wintrmute.net  Tue Dec 11 02:39:16 2012
From: tjc at wintrmute.net (Toby Wintermute)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:39:16 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] December Social
In-Reply-To: <50C5557F.2040005@strategicdata.com.au>
References: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>
	<50C5557F.2040005@strategicdata.com.au>
Message-ID: <CABEgq96ao2VTHNjqv_zuDohcNxyBdHLSZYhMQabmsh+qOjGh8A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Christopher suggested the Mitre Tavern.
Jacinta has suggested (on meetup.com) that city bars are likely to be
booked out for xmas parties at this time of year; I don't know if that
is the case with the Mitre or not?
Jacinta also suggested BBQs in parks after work as an option, with
some suggestions.

I'm afraid I am really not able to coordinate this online very well at
the moment. Please discuss what sort of event you'd like! Please
excuse me if my replies are brief.

Another matter; numbers. How big a place do we need?
Between meetup and facebook we have five people; I don't know if
anyone else has advertised to Twitter/LinkedIn/etc? (I haven't)
And I imagine some people will be on this list only.
Doesn't sound like we'd need that big a spot then?

-T

On 10 December 2012 14:22, Toby Corkindale
<toby.corkindale at strategicdata.com.au> wrote:
> Two days to go.. venue suggestions?
>
>
> On 04/12/12 11:02, Toby Corkindale wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I've created a Facebook event for the December social meeting.
>> http://www.facebook.com/events/351649021597764/
>>
>> Also a meetup.com event:
>> http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Perl-Mongers/events/93943452/
>>
>> Location - please discuss. Let's try somewhere that isn't Beer Deluxe
>> this time?
>>
>> -Toby
>> _______________________________________________
>> Melbourne-pm mailing list
>> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm



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The falcon cannot hear the falconer
Things fall apart; the center cannot hold
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Tue Dec 11 16:36:31 2012
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:36:31 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] December Social
In-Reply-To: <CABEgq96ao2VTHNjqv_zuDohcNxyBdHLSZYhMQabmsh+qOjGh8A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>
	<50C5557F.2040005@strategicdata.com.au>
	<CABEgq96ao2VTHNjqv_zuDohcNxyBdHLSZYhMQabmsh+qOjGh8A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50C7D18F.5010902@perltraining.com.au>

On 11/12/12 21:39, Toby Wintermute wrote:
> I'm afraid I am really not able to coordinate this online very well at
> the moment.
>
> Another matter; numbers. How big a place do we need?
> Between meetup and facebook we have five people;

I unilaterally declare we go to the Mitre.  And if that doesn't work, we 
can probably find somewhere else.  Meet at the Mitre Tavern, 5 Bank Pl, 
Melbourne, at 6:30pm and celebrate the end of the year.  Those who 
attended, like myself and Steven (if he turns up) can regale you with 
stories from OSDC that you missed last week.

All the best,

     J

From tjc at wintrmute.net  Tue Dec 11 17:41:39 2012
From: tjc at wintrmute.net (Toby Wintermute)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:41:39 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] December Social
In-Reply-To: <50C7D18F.5010902@perltraining.com.au>
References: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>
	<50C5557F.2040005@strategicdata.com.au>
	<CABEgq96ao2VTHNjqv_zuDohcNxyBdHLSZYhMQabmsh+qOjGh8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<50C7D18F.5010902@perltraining.com.au>
Message-ID: <CABEgq95=yPb_gQ4u=9G+pKbqBiG-Vt71q22_V=UMdsdjOF7z-g@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you.
Looking forward to seeing you all tonight.

On 12 December 2012 11:36, Jacinta Richardson
<jarich at perltraining.com.au> wrote:
> On 11/12/12 21:39, Toby Wintermute wrote:
>>
>> I'm afraid I am really not able to coordinate this online very well at
>> the moment.
>>
>> Another matter; numbers. How big a place do we need?
>> Between meetup and facebook we have five people;
>
>
> I unilaterally declare we go to the Mitre.  And if that doesn't work, we can
> probably find somewhere else.  Meet at the Mitre Tavern, 5 Bank Pl,
> Melbourne, at 6:30pm and celebrate the end of the year.  Those who attended,
> like myself and Steven (if he turns up) can regale you with stories from
> OSDC that you missed last week.
>
> All the best,
>
>
>     J
> _______________________________________________
> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm



-- 
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The falcon cannot hear the falconer
Things fall apart; the center cannot hold
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

From greg.george at orica.com  Tue Dec 11 18:33:21 2012
From: greg.george at orica.com (greg.george at orica.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:33:21 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] December Social
In-Reply-To: <50C7D18F.5010902@perltraining.com.au>
References: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>	<50C5557F.2040005@strategicdata.com.au>
	<CABEgq96ao2VTHNjqv_zuDohcNxyBdHLSZYhMQabmsh+qOjGh8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<50C7D18F.5010902@perltraining.com.au>
Message-ID: <OF04B3DE52.EAC5DC1E-ONCA257AD2.000DF585-CA257AD2.000E0A37@orica.com>

See you there:
Mitre Tavern, 5 Bank Pl, Melbourne, at 6:30pm 

Regards,
Greg George  
IT Systems Integration Analyst|Globalisation|Release, Deploy & 
Projects|Global IT Infrastructure & Operations|Orica Ltd
p. +613 9091 2492 | f. +613 9091 2444 | e. greg.george at orica.com
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From kahlil.hodgson at dealmax.com.au  Tue Dec 11 19:05:02 2012
From: kahlil.hodgson at dealmax.com.au (Kahlil Hodgson)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:05:02 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] December Social
In-Reply-To: <OF04B3DE52.EAC5DC1E-ONCA257AD2.000DF585-CA257AD2.000E0A37@orica.com>
References: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>	<50C5557F.2040005@strategicdata.com.au>
	<CABEgq96ao2VTHNjqv_zuDohcNxyBdHLSZYhMQabmsh+qOjGh8A@mail.gmail.com>
	<50C7D18F.5010902@perltraining.com.au>
	<OF04B3DE52.EAC5DC1E-ONCA257AD2.000DF585-CA257AD2.000E0A37@orica.com>
Message-ID: <50C7F45E.5000208@dealmax.com.au>

Beer is good.

K

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the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.  Therefore,
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason.  By all
means, do not use a hammer."  -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Wed Dec 12 18:12:15 2012
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:12:15 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Unicode slides (was Re:  December Social)
In-Reply-To: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>
References: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>
Message-ID: <50C9397F.1040201@perltraining.com.au>

It was good to see you all last night.  What a turn out!

I've attached my Unicode talk slides because Myf asked about them.

     J
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From myfwhite at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 05:53:58 2012
From: myfwhite at gmail.com (Myf White)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:53:58 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Unicode slides (was Re: December Social)
In-Reply-To: <50C9397F.1040201@perltraining.com.au>
References: <50BD3DA2.4060807@strategicdata.com.au>
	<50C9397F.1040201@perltraining.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAP7036UpfW1gPGYdShZOZ1GZy9HU5+G7jVVm87O2N1jT_PE-zw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks so much. I finally got around to reading these. The info is very
helpful to me for part of a project I'm working on.


Kind Regards,
Myf White

*Phone: *0413 757 052*
Email:* myfwhite at gmail.com


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Jacinta Richardson <
jarich at perltraining.com.au> wrote:

> It was good to see you all last night.  What a turn out!
>
> I've attached my Unicode talk slides because Myf asked about them.
>
>     J
>
> _______________________________________________
> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
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