[Melbourne-pm] more computer programming stuff

Nathan Bentley nathanb at finite.com.au
Sun Sep 21 18:53:12 PDT 2008

Hi John

As a recruiter I can tell you where the money is at the moment and
speculate on the future if cash is your priority?

Given that you likely have a creative bent since you're doing design Guy
is spot on in his recommendation for Flash and the like. 

The development languages like Perl, C's and C.net's might not be as
useful to you from a career point of view as
AS3/Flash/Flex/AIR/Silverlight or Jscript/AJAX since they're the hot
topic with growing Internet trends where media studies also put options
on the table.

If you want to play it safe, ASP.net might give you the best of both
worlds? PHP plays with the creative languages more and more and there is
a lot of community driven resource to help you learn it also.

PHP is getting a bit more portable these days too, although Java is
still the king of the hill for growth sectors like portable media.

In terms of training, I know of a couple of places that can knock you
out a quick course, but, as with all development you're going to need to
get a basic introduction and then work the language yourself to learn
it. You'll end up paying huge amounts of coin for very little practical
knowledge if you rely on training institutions alone.

What's that quote from the Matrix? "Knowing the path isn't walking the

A crowd named dynamicwebtraining.com.au had a good rep in Sydney when I
was in the industry, they can offer a fair bit, but get your wallet

Good luck with it!

Nathan Bentley

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-----Original Message-----
From: melbourne-pm-bounces+nathanb=finite.com.au at pm.org
[mailto:melbourne-pm-bounces+nathanb=finite.com.au at pm.org] On Behalf Of
Guy Morton
Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2008 12:47 AM
To: John Thornton
Cc: Melbourne Perlmongers
Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] more computer programming stuff

Forget Dreamweaver. Learn Flex (or SVG+Javascript, or preferably both).

Get an iPhone and write an app for it in SVG+Javascript..


On 20/09/2008, at 9:17 PM, John Thornton wrote:

>      Hello
>           I am a uni graduate [BA in maths/philosophy...yeah I know I
> wasted my youth :)] and at the moment I am doing a Dip of Graphics  
> Design by
> distance mode. It's a pretty tough course actually: photoshop,  
> Indesign etc.
> I am looking to work in the graphic design area in the future.  
> Anyway, I am
> enjoying getting into programming so much, especially Java and Ruby,  
> that I
> am open to doing a computer science/programming course in the  
> future. Anyone
> know of any that are aimed at people with no programming knowledge  
> or close
> to it? I would prefer TAFE or off campus. I do not understand the
> postgraduate fee system. I want something hands on where I get to  
> program.
> Sure, you have to understand something about what an object is to do  
> OOP.
> Fine. But I mean I don't need the history of programming, socio  
> postmodern
> Derrida critique of the programming ethos etc etc [OK that's a touch
> sarcastic].
>      I really have to make a big decision in the near future with  
> where I
> go with this graphics stuff. One option is to complement it with  
> some web
> programming/set up stuff which would be where programming could come  
> in.
> Other options are to spend my money instead on more software and  
> even at
> student prices software in graphics costs a bit! I have Indesign,
> Illustrator, Photoshop, Flash and Dreamweaver. They are HUGE  
> programs. If
> anyone knows of any good Dreamweaver/web courses that would be good  
> too.
>     Anyway, hope that the Storm can come back. [I am a Melbournite]
>     John
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