[Melbourne-pm] Training + experience = expertise? (Was: SPUG: Introducing The Perl College)

Nathan Bailey Nathan.Bailey at its.monash.edu
Mon Mar 3 20:43:29 PST 2008

Hmm, sounds a bit Google summer-of-code-ish.

So we could get them some training, get them some experience and then  
sell them off to the highest bidder.
Employers get smarter/more proven programmers (rather than someone who  
has just put 'Perl' in their CV along with 50 other technologies)
The student gets a great job in a growing technology (and if they join  
MelbPM, a $6-7K higher salary, apparently ;-)
And we take a recruiters cut (which is what I presume Uri and Damian  
are doing in the US).

I'm up for it :-)


On 03/03/2008, at 12:23 PM, Scott Penrose wrote:

> Could we run it like an exercise boot camp...
> e.g.
> Choose some worthy open source project.
> Organise twice per week 60 or 90 minute morning sessions developing  
> in a lab.
> Do this for say 6 weeks (12 sessions).
> Scott
> On 03/03/2008, at 12:20 PM, Nathan Bailey wrote:
>> Is it just training? or is there also some "on the job" experience?
>> As good as Damian is, I don't think a week of Damian turns a junior
>> into an intermediate - you need to also apply that knowledge for a
>> period of time before you really retain/attain it.
>> I've been thinking about how to run a perl/open-source bootcamp for a
>> while, but I think it needs to follow with 3 months of real work  
>> (in a
>> semi-coached environment). Then you can vouch for the capability of
>> the graduates (= they get a testamur for both their studies and their
>> work - so students who really apply themselves should get these best
>> jobs :-)
>> re,
>> N
>> On 03/03/2008, at 12:04 PM, Jacinta Richardson wrote:
>>> For those who haven't found out by other means, I thought I'd point
>>> out what Uri
>>> Guttman and Damian Conway are up to in the US.  Note this isn't
>>> happening here
>>> (yet), so you probably can't apply, I'm just sharing news.
>>> What a great idea, huh?
>>> 	J
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: SPUG: Introducing The Perl College
>>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:46:19 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: Andrew Sweger <andrew at sweger.net>
>>> To: SPUG Members <members at seattleperl.org>
>>> Forwarding to SPUG on behalf of Uri Guttman. My apologies if this is
>>> your
>>> third (or morth) viewing of this message.
>>> What is the Perl College?
>>> 	The Perl College is a creative merger of job training and job
>>> 	fairs. Here are its primary goals:
>>> 	* Provide free top quality training to qualified
>>> 	  junior level Perl developers
>>> 	* Improve their Perl skills to the intermediate level
>>> 	* Match the new graduates with Perl jobs in the hiring companies
>>> 	* http://perlhunter.com/college.html
>>> 	The Perl College was created to address these issues in
>>> 	recruiting Perl coders:
>>> 	* A shortage of intermediate level Perl developers
>>> 	* A surplus of junior level Perl developers
>>> 	* Some are not developing Perl full time
>>> 	* Many are looking for a career developing Perl but can't get
>>> 	  needed training and experience
>>> 	* Companies lacking the resources to train Perl developers
>>> 	We are currently seeking both sponsors and students for this
>>> 	unique education/recruitment opportunity.
>>> Hiring Sponsors: Thirty great applicants - cheap!
>>> 	Imagine how much it would cost in both time and money to find
>>> 	and train a qualified applicant for your Perl jobs. The Perl
>>> 	College dramatically improves the efficiency of this process by
>>> 	pre-screening and accepting only the most motivated
>>> 	students. Then we take it one step further. We take those
>>> 	already highly motivated students and train them up to a solid
>>> 	intermediate level of Perl skills. Efficiency, cost
>>> 	effectiveness and quality results - what could be better for
>>> 	your Perl recruitment needs?
>>> Student Candidates: Put yourself ahead of the competition.
>>> 	If selected you will have a week of free training from Damian
>>> 	Conway (valued at $3000). Plus you will exposed to employers who
>>> 	are actively seeking intermediate level Perl developers.
>>> 	Competition to get in will be fierce so put your best foot
>>> 	forward. Don't wait to apply as we will take only the thirty
>>> 	most qualified students.
>>> For more information on The Perl College, and how to apply to be a
>>> sponsor or a student go to these pages:
>>> 	http://perlhunter.com/college.html
>>> 	http://perlhunter.com/sponsors.html
>>> 	http://perlhunter.com/students.html
>>> Thanks,
>>> Uri Guttman, Dean of The Perl College
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