From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Thu Apr  3 17:38:47 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:38:47 +1100
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] SGM reminder next week: Wednesday 9th April
Message-ID: <47F57897.5010008@perltraining.com.au>

G'day folk,

Our next meeting will be held next week on Wednesday 9th April.

Special General Meeting - Starting 6:30pm sharp
------------------------------------------------

* Summary of Melbourne Perl Mongers' financial situation
* Description of current Melbourne Perl Mongers' state.
* A vote will be put to the membership on the following points.

	* To end the official registered association.

	* To become a part of the Open Source Developers' Club Association.

	* To pass on assets to the Open Source Developers' Club Association

Please note that should we end our official registered association, Melbourne 
Perl Mongers will continue to meet as normal.  This merely removes the 
requirement for us to have a committee and fulfil the legal obligations of being 
an Association.

Only paid members of Melbourne Perl Mongers are required to vote at the SGM. 
The secretary (Alec Clews) should be able to inform you of whether you are a 
paid member.

Regular Meeting - Starting after completion of SGM (approximately 6:45pm)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Talks and celebrations.  More to be announced.


Meeting Location
================

We will meet at DatacomIT.  The address is:

	70 Dorcas Street, Southbank

A map for this location can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2n7alg

For those coming by public transport, it appears you can catch the following trams:

	* 55 West Coburg/Domain Interchange
	* Any trams which go through the Domain Interchange on St Kilda Road
	  (3, 5, 6, 8, 64, 67, 72)
	* 1 East Coburg/South Melbourne Beach


Car access to Dorcas St is via Kings Way, St Kilda Road or Park St. If you are 
not familiar with the area remember that Dorcas St is broken by Kings way and it 
is not possible to drive from the South Melbourne end. Park St does cross Kings 
Way.  Street parking is easy at 6.45PM. There is also secure parking but it 
should not be need unless people turn up very early.

For the pub after the meeting we'll go to the "Town Hall".  This is a 5-10 
minute walk to the other side of Kings way. The address is: 137 Bank St, South 
Melbourne, http://www.townhall.com.au/





From dan at tyrrell.com.au  Mon Apr  7 19:19:48 2008
From: dan at tyrrell.com.au (Dan Tyrrell)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:19:48 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] SGM reminder next week: Wednesday 9th April
In-Reply-To: <47F57897.5010008@perltraining.com.au>
References: <47F57897.5010008@perltraining.com.au>
Message-ID: <b65fd34c0804071919n448fb6edh6b005dc9adf41582@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

There will be internet access. We have setup wifi on a couple of
access points connected to a spare ADSL 2+ Internode connection so
plenty of internet bandwidth (I hope!).There is a GIGE switch hooked
up as well for those that don't trust wifi...

The Town Hall (Pub) has free wifi as well.

Regards

Dan Tyrrell



On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Jacinta Richardson
<jarich at perltraining.com.au> wrote:
> G'day folk,
>
> Our next meeting will be held next week on Wednesday 9th April.
>
> Special General Meeting - Starting 6:30pm sharp
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> * Summary of Melbourne Perl Mongers' financial situation
> * Description of current Melbourne Perl Mongers' state.
> * A vote will be put to the membership on the following points.
>
>        * To end the official registered association.
>
>        * To become a part of the Open Source Developers' Club Association.
>
>        * To pass on assets to the Open Source Developers' Club Association
>
> Please note that should we end our official registered association, Melbourne
> Perl Mongers will continue to meet as normal.  This merely removes the
> requirement for us to have a committee and fulfil the legal obligations of being
> an Association.
>
> Only paid members of Melbourne Perl Mongers are required to vote at the SGM.
> The secretary (Alec Clews) should be able to inform you of whether you are a
> paid member.
>
> Regular Meeting - Starting after completion of SGM (approximately 6:45pm)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Talks and celebrations.  More to be announced.
>
>
> Meeting Location
> ================
>
> We will meet at DatacomIT.  The address is:
>
>        70 Dorcas Street, Southbank
>
> A map for this location can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2n7alg
>
> For those coming by public transport, it appears you can catch the following trams:
>
>        * 55 West Coburg/Domain Interchange
>        * Any trams which go through the Domain Interchange on St Kilda Road
>          (3, 5, 6, 8, 64, 67, 72)
>        * 1 East Coburg/South Melbourne Beach
>
>
> Car access to Dorcas St is via Kings Way, St Kilda Road or Park St. If you are
> not familiar with the area remember that Dorcas St is broken by Kings way and it
> is not possible to drive from the South Melbourne end. Park St does cross Kings
> Way.  Street parking is easy at 6.45PM. There is also secure parking but it
> should not be need unless people turn up very early.
>
> For the pub after the meeting we'll go to the "Town Hall".  This is a 5-10
> minute walk to the other side of Kings way. The address is: 137 Bank St, South
> Melbourne, http://www.townhall.com.au/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
>



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dan at tyrrell.com.au
+61 409 964694

From pjf at perltraining.com.au  Mon Apr  7 21:31:49 2008
From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick)
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:31:49 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Melbourne Perl Mongers TOMORROW (Wednesday 9th April)
Message-ID: <47FAF535.2020706@perltraining.com.au>

G'day Everyone,

Just a reminder that tomorrow will be the Melbourne Perl Mongers Special 
General Meeting and Night of Awesome Coolness.

Where:	DatacomIT
	70 Dorcas Street
	Southbank
	Map: http://tinyurl.com/2n7alg

	See http://tinyurl.com/4lgfrd for directions, parking
	and further information.

When:	Tomorrow (Wed, 9th April)
	6:30pm sharp SGM start
	6:45pm blunt awesome coolness start

Bonus:	* Free wifi/wired internet access (thanks DatacomIT)
	* Pub with free wifi (The Town Hall)

Talks:

* EPIC - A Perl development environment for the Eclipse IDE
	 by Hamish Carpenter

* "All your exceptions suck", using autodie.pm in Perl 5.10.x
	 by Paul Fenwick

Looking forward to seeing you all there!

	Paul

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From melbourne-pm at mjch.net  Wed Apr  9 22:09:57 2008
From: melbourne-pm at mjch.net (Malcolm Herbert)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:09:57 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] examples of Parse::Yapp use?
Message-ID: <20080410050957.GJ28636@mjch.net>

I don't seem to be able to find a simple example of Parse::Yapp out
there that actually works.  I am able to construct a grammar and lexer
routine and run my files through that, but at no point can I get the
results of any of the parsed text out of the module and into the body
of my code ... most frustrating ... 

Does anyone have a short example showing how to use Parse::Yapp?

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mjch at mjch.net                                                left blank

From scottp at dd.com.au  Wed Apr  9 22:33:27 2008
From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:33:27 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] examples of Parse::Yapp use?
In-Reply-To: <20080410050957.GJ28636@mjch.net>
References: <20080410050957.GJ28636@mjch.net>
Message-ID: <A6FD500F-D893-4A52-940A-EF1CC9F67640@dd.com.au>

Here is one we have used at Schoolsnet/Myinternet/CSM/Editure for the  
last 8 years. It is basically the WHERE clause of SQL used for doing a  
search engine...

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You create the PM by:

yapp -m MI::Search::Query::Parser -o lib/MI/Search/Query/Parser.pm lib/ 
MI/Search/Query/Parser.yp

SQL::Statement used to use YAPP I think, but seems now to use  
Parse::RecDescent.

Scott

On 10/04/2008, at 3:09 PM, Malcolm Herbert wrote:
> I don't seem to be able to find a simple example of Parse::Yapp out
> there that actually works.  I am able to construct a grammar and lexer
> routine and run my files through that, but at no point can I get the
> results of any of the parsed text out of the module and into the body
> of my code ... most frustrating ...
>
> Does anyone have a short example showing how to use Parse::Yapp?
>
> -- 
> Malcolm Herbert                                This brain  
> intentionally
> mjch at mjch.net                                                left  
> blank
> _______________________________________________
> Melbourne-pm mailing list
> Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm


From toby.corkindale at rea-group.com  Thu Apr 10 21:08:13 2008
From: toby.corkindale at rea-group.com (Toby Corkindale)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:08:13 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] XML::Compile's WSDL - transport accessor?
Message-ID: <47FEE42D.6050305@rea-group.com>

Hi,
I wondered if anyone has experience with XML::Compile?
I've had good success with it previously, but am struggling to locate 
the right accessor in a particular case.

I'm using XML::Compile::WSDL11 to generate some SOAP services, but I 
want to get access to the LWP::UserAgent object.. to do that I need to 
get the XML::Compile::Transport::SOAPHTTP object, but it's eluding me on 
the correct incantations to retrieve it from the X-C-WSDL11 object.

Can anyone help me with the missing step here?

my $wsdl = slurp('service.wsdl');
my $service = XML::Compile::WSDL11->new($wsdl);
my $transport = $service->????; # <---
my $ua = $transport->userAgent;
my $call = $service->compileClient('MyService', port => 'MyPort');
$call->( answer => 42 );

I've manually setup services before and had access to the transport; 
however when using ::WSDL to do it automatically, the options to 
transport don't go across, and I can't figure out how to get back to it..

Cheers,
Toby

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From tjc at wintrmute.net  Thu Apr 10 22:02:13 2008
From: tjc at wintrmute.net (Toby Corkindale)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:02:13 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] XML::Compile::WSDL11 - accessing the transport
	layer
In-Reply-To: <20080411020839.GE27294@roseberry>
References: <20080411020839.GE27294@roseberry>
Message-ID: <20080411050213.GG27294@roseberry>

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:08:39PM +1000, Toby Corkindale wrote:
> I'm using XML::Compile::WSDL11 to generate some SOAP services, but I want to
> get access to the LWP::UserAgent object.. to do that I need to get the
> XML::Compile::Transport::SOAPHTTP object, but it's eluding me on the correct
> incantations to retrieve it from the X-C-WSDL11 object.
> 
> Can anyone help me with the missing step here?

I never did figure out the right way to get to the transport layer, and
eventually decided that X-C-T-SOAPHTTP just didn't export the package-wide
%transporters hash via any means.

I created a work-around, see below if you ever need to do this yourself:

> my $wsdl = slurp('service.wsdl');
> my $service = XML::Compile::WSDL11->new($wsdl);

my $transport = XML::Compile::Transport::SOAPHTTP->new(
    address => $server_uri
);
my $ua = $transport->userAgent;
# Hurrah, now set all your custom LWP::UserAgent options.
# ...

my $call = $service->compileClient('MyService',
    port => 'MyPort',
    transport => $transport,
);

> $call->( answer => 42 );


In this case I already knew what the destination address URL was, and could set
it manually in $server_uri. If you don't know what it is, it can be obtained by
XML::Compile::WSDL11::Operation's endPoints() function; in order to get an
Operation object you can call ->operation on your WSDL object, but you'll have
to pass a valid operation name; a list of these is available from the
WSDL->operations function.


I welcome any suggestions on easier ways to perform this..

Toby

From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Thu Apr 17 21:35:15 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:35:15 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Object Oriented Perl and Database Programming with
	Perl
Message-ID: <48082503.5090003@perltraining.com.au>

G'day folk,

All Melbourne Perl Mongers get a discount on our courses.  So I'd just like to
mention our next few upcoming Perl courses:

     20th - 21st May    Object Oriented Perl            [confirmed]
     22nd - 23rd May    Database Programming with Perl
      3rd -  6th Jun    Programming Perl
      2nd -  5th Sep    Programming Perl

Book on the first two courses before next Friday (25th April) to receive a free
book per person, per course.  http://perltraining.com.au/bookings/Melbourne.html

Mention Melbourne Perl Mongers as your referrer to get a 5% discount per person.
 (Add this to the group booking discount to get a total discount of 10% per
person when booking 3 or more places).

The Object Oriented Perl course will certainly be going ahead, all other courses
are dependant on course numbers.

All the best,

	Jacinta

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From myfwhite at gmail.com  Tue Apr 22 02:21:46 2008
From: myfwhite at gmail.com (Myf White)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:21:46 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next month's meeting
Message-ID: <14bb7600804220221u5c222018w1e63df9f422eba59@mail.gmail.com>

Unfortunately, I just found out the space we used for the last meeting has
been leased and will not be available again. So it looks like something else
will need to be sorted out.


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From ddick at aapt.net.au  Thu Apr 24 03:18:52 2008
From: ddick at aapt.net.au (David Dick)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:18:52 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next month's meeting
In-Reply-To: <14bb7600804220221u5c222018w1e63df9f422eba59@mail.gmail.com>
References: <14bb7600804220221u5c222018w1e63df9f422eba59@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48105E8C.70803@aapt.net.au>


> Unfortunately, I just found out the space we used for the last meeting 
> has been leased and will not be available again. So it looks like 
> something else will need to be sorted out.

In case we need a place, my current employer, Remasys, has kindly 
offered to host Perl Monger meetings for as long as i am working there.  
they are at Level 1 / 172 Flinders St (just opposite Federation Square).


From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Tue Apr 29 00:52:18 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:52:18 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next month's meeting
In-Reply-To: <48105E8C.70803@aapt.net.au>
References: <14bb7600804220221u5c222018w1e63df9f422eba59@mail.gmail.com>
	<48105E8C.70803@aapt.net.au>
Message-ID: <4816D3B2.6060502@perltraining.com.au>

David Dick wrote:

> In case we need a place, my current employer, Remasys, has kindly 
> offered to host Perl Monger meetings for as long as i am working there.  
> they are at Level 1 / 172 Flinders St (just opposite Federation Square).

That would be awesome, thankyou very much for this David!  Will there be a data
projector?

	J

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From ddick at aapt.net.au  Tue Apr 29 03:20:38 2008
From: ddick at aapt.net.au (David Dick)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:20:38 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next month's meeting
In-Reply-To: <4816F63C.1070608@aapt.net.au>
References: <14bb7600804220221u5c222018w1e63df9f422eba59@mail.gmail.com>
	<48105E8C.70803@aapt.net.au> <4816D3B2.6060502@perltraining.com.au>
	<4816F63C.1070608@aapt.net.au>
Message-ID: <4816F676.5080504@aapt.net.au>

David Dick wrote:
> Jacinta Richardson wrote:
>> David Dick wrote:
>>
>> That would be awesome, thankyou very much for this David!  Will there 
>> be a data
>> projector?
>>
>>   
> Presentation stuff is not my strong point, but will research and 
> report back. :)
>
neither is replying to lists. :)


From swatkins at fastmail.fm  Tue Apr 29 05:14:59 2008
From: swatkins at fastmail.fm (Sam Watkins)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:14:59 +0800
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] a perl html template processor I wrote
Message-ID: <1209471299.31612.1250457169@webmail.messagingengine.com>

hi,

I wrote an html template processor for a CGI/perl job,
it can do things like:


  <p bind="message"/>

  <table>
  <tr bind="sql:select foo, bar from tab">
    <td>$foo</td> <td>$bar</td>
  </tr>
  </table>

  <p bind="file:some_text.txt"/>

  <pre bind="people">
  name: $name
  sex: $sex
  age: $age
  </pre>


which might become:


  <p>message number one</p>

  <p>another message</p>

  <table>
  <tr>
    <td>frog</td> <td>99</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>cow</td> <td>42</td>
  </tr>
  </table>

  <p>this is the text that
  was in some_text.txt file</p>

  <pre>
  name: joe
  sex: m
  age: 22
  </pre>

  <pre>
  name: alice
  sex: f
  age: 19
  </pre>

There are two ways to get at variables, using $varname and using
bind="varname".  It works with singletons, arrays, objects/hashes, plain
text and html text.

No need for loops; just bind to an array variable.
No need for conditionals; just bind to an array variable that might have
0 or 1 members.


I think it's quite a nice system, the syntax and design is simpler than
other template programs I've seen.


My CGI library also handles extra parameters on form buttons, like:

  item 12: <input type="submit" name="Delete__12" value="Delete">

There's no other way to pass button-specific info with a form submit.


Is this interesting to anyone who does web development?


regards,

Sam

From alfiejohn at gmail.com  Tue Apr 29 06:12:31 2008
From: alfiejohn at gmail.com (Alfie John)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:12:31 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] a perl html template processor I wrote
In-Reply-To: <1209471299.31612.1250457169@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <1209471299.31612.1250457169@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <bb79c8f30804290612u47da330fvbf4ccd00d039bec3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Sam,

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Sam Watkins <swatkins at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>  I wrote an html template processor for a CGI/perl job,
>
>  I think it's quite a nice system, the syntax and design is simpler than
>  other template programs I've seen.
>
>  Is this interesting to anyone who does web development?

Some say that a HTML templating system is a Perl rite of passage.
Depending on what your needs are, you might want to try the simple
(and lite) HTML::Template, or even a more complex but complete
HTML::Mason:

  http://search.cpan.org/search?m=all&q=template&s=1&n=100

Although you might have invented a rounder wheel, you should maybe
consider CPAN in future. You could even say, CPAN is "Rule 34" for
Perl :)

Alfie

From deepfryed at gmail.com  Tue Apr 29 06:33:12 2008
From: deepfryed at gmail.com (deepfryed at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:33:12 +0800
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] a perl html template processor I wrote
In-Reply-To: <bb79c8f30804290612u47da330fvbf4ccd00d039bec3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1209471299.31612.1250457169@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<bb79c8f30804290612u47da330fvbf4ccd00d039bec3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <70b2ff110804290633i5b8639bds3bd77ccb8487f8bc@mail.gmail.com>

TIMTOWTDI  :-)

I like the idea of leveraging structure in html for templating,
although it would mean that it will not be flexible like a more full
flown engine such as TT.  I would be interested in taking a look.


On 4/29/08, Alfie John <alfiejohn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Sam Watkins <swatkins at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >  I wrote an html template processor for a CGI/perl job,
> >
> >  I think it's quite a nice system, the syntax and design is simpler than
> >  other template programs I've seen.
> >
> >  Is this interesting to anyone who does web development?
>
> Some say that a HTML templating system is a Perl rite of passage.
> Depending on what your needs are, you might want to try the simple
> (and lite) HTML::Template, or even a more complex but complete
> HTML::Mason:
>
>   http://search.cpan.org/search?m=all&q=template&s=1&n=100
>
> Although you might have invented a rounder wheel, you should maybe
> consider CPAN in future. You could even say, CPAN is "Rule 34" for
> Perl :)
>
> Alfie
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From daniel at rimspace.net  Tue Apr 29 19:57:07 2008
From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:57:07 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] a perl html template processor I wrote
In-Reply-To: <bb79c8f30804290612u47da330fvbf4ccd00d039bec3@mail.gmail.com>
	(Alfie John's message of "Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:12:31 +1000")
References: <1209471299.31612.1250457169@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<bb79c8f30804290612u47da330fvbf4ccd00d039bec3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87y76w3v98.fsf@rimspace.net>

"Alfie John" <alfiejohn at gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Sam Watkins <swatkins at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>>  I wrote an html template processor for a CGI/perl job,
>>
>>  I think it's quite a nice system, the syntax and design is simpler than
>>  other template programs I've seen.
>>
>>  Is this interesting to anyone who does web development?
>
> Some say that a HTML templating system is a Perl rite of passage.

Everyone writes one is some language or other, I think, just like
everyone eventually reinvents sed, a memory allocator, garbage
collection, a "real" macro pre-processor and their very own OS or GUI
widget library.

> Depending on what your needs are, you might want to try the simple
> (and lite) HTML::Template, or even a more complex but complete
> HTML::Mason:

I would turn to Template::Toolkit, which generally strikes a good
balance between a complete template language and the original language.

Oh, and ships with bindings to databases.  Just sayin'.

Regards,
        Daniel

From ddick at aapt.net.au  Wed Apr 30 04:33:21 2008
From: ddick at aapt.net.au (David Dick)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:33:21 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next month's meeting
In-Reply-To: <4816D3B2.6060502@perltraining.com.au>
References: <14bb7600804220221u5c222018w1e63df9f422eba59@mail.gmail.com>
	<48105E8C.70803@aapt.net.au> <4816D3B2.6060502@perltraining.com.au>
Message-ID: <48185901.6010302@aapt.net.au>

Jacinta Richardson wrote:
>
> That would be awesome, thankyou very much for this David!  Will there be a data
> projector?
>   
Confirmed. One ceiling mounted data projector!


From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Wed Apr 30 19:22:29 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 12:22:29 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting: 14th May.  LIGHTNING TALKS
Message-ID: <48192965.7030601@perltraining.com.au>

The next Melbourne Perl Mongers meeting will be held:

	6:30pm 14th May
	Level 1
	172 Flinders St
	(just opposite Federation Square)

David Dick and AAPT have kindly volunteered to host us, and if there are more
details about getting in, I trust he'll let us know.

I suggest for this meeting that we run a series of lightning talks.  These are
3-5 minute long talks, ideally about a single idea.  They can be comedic or
serious, simple or complex, but they must be no longer than 5 minutes long.
This is a great opportunity for everyone to get up and say something, especially
if you've never presented anything before!  Slides are optional.  You can just
get up and introduce yourself and tell us what you do - that would be awesome!

Think about your topic(s) then send it through to the list.  We should have time
for pretty much everyone to present once, but it would be good for scheduling
purposes to know in advance who wants to speak.  If you don't have a laptop you
can bring along to present from, send your slides (if you plan to use them) to
Paul by Monday 12th (pjf at perltraining.com.au)

If you decide you want to give a talk, on the night, that's no problem at all.

Unfortunately I'll be interstate and won't be able to attend, so I hope you have
a great time without me.

	J	

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From toby.corkindale at rea-group.com  Wed Apr 30 20:18:30 2008
From: toby.corkindale at rea-group.com (Toby Corkindale)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 13:18:30 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting: 14th May.  LIGHTNING TALKS
In-Reply-To: <48192965.7030601@perltraining.com.au>
References: <48192965.7030601@perltraining.com.au>
Message-ID: <48193686.9040700@rea-group.com>

Jacinta Richardson wrote:
> The next Melbourne Perl Mongers meeting will be held:
> 
> 	6:30pm 14th May
> 	Level 1
> 	172 Flinders St
> 	(just opposite Federation Square)
> 
> David Dick and AAPT have kindly volunteered to host us, and if there are more
> details about getting in, I trust he'll let us know.
> 
> I suggest for this meeting that we run a series of lightning talks.  These are
> 3-5 minute long talks, ideally about a single idea.  They can be comedic or
> serious, simple or complex, but they must be no longer than 5 minutes long.
> This is a great opportunity for everyone to get up and say something, especially
> if you've never presented anything before!  Slides are optional.  You can just
> get up and introduce yourself and tell us what you do - that would be awesome!

It's not strictly Perl, nor a 5 min talk, but I mentioned to Paul at the 
last meeting that I could do a quick talk on using Git for source 
control, with a quick run-through of how to use it.

I'm still happy to do a cut-down version in five minutes though, if 
people are interested?

Cheers,
Toby

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From pjf at perltraining.com.au  Wed Apr 30 22:54:51 2008
From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 15:54:51 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Next meeting: 14th May.  LIGHTNING TALKS
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	<48193686.9040700@rea-group.com>
Message-ID: <48195B2B.6030700@perltraining.com.au>

G'day Toby / MPM,

Toby Corkindale wrote:

> It's not strictly Perl, nor a 5 min talk, but I mentioned to Paul at the 
> last meeting that I could do a quick talk on using Git for source 
> control, with a quick run-through of how to use it.

Oh goodness!  You did indeed!  Talking about git could be considered a bit 
Perlish, since the Perl 5 source is moving to git as its source-control 
system.  You could make it especially Perlish if you added git-fu on how to 
run Perl::Critic or something similar before code gets committed.

> I'm still happy to do a cut-down version in five minutes though, if 
> people are interested?

You immediately qualify on the 5-minute version because if we're doing 
lightning talks, then that's a lightning talk.  ;)

I'd personally love to see git as a longer talk (unless anyone complains), 
so I'd propose the git talk as the "feature talk" for the evening, with 
lightning talks either before or after.

Cheerio,

	Paul

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