From alecclews at gmail.com  Mon Jul  2 19:25:03 2007
From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:25:03 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Fwd: [WSG Melbourne] Vic ICT for Women
In-Reply-To: <337950078_81511421@mail.webboy.net>
References: <337950078_81511421@mail.webboy.net>
Message-ID: <3c2b63c00707021925u3fa66157x5227b91800764387@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure if this if interest to any of the local Perl Chix

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Date: 03-Jul-2007 11:56
Subject: [WSG Melbourne] Vic ICT for Women
To: announce at wipa.org.au, melbourne-announce at webstandardsgroup.org
Cc: enquiries at vicictforwomen.com.au

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To Whom it may concern,

I am contacting you to advise of an upcoming Vic ICT for Women event that
may be of interest to your members and broader network.

"The Untapped Workforce: attracting women back into the industry" is
presented by Jackie Cooke, Managing Director of Priorities - Flexible
Employment Strategies, 12.30 - 2pm Thursday 19 July -tickets just $40 for
non members.

The event provides and excellent networking opportunity as well as insight
into how companies can improve flexibility to attract and retain women.

Vic ICT for Women is a non profit networking organisation supporting the
entry, retention and progression of women working in the Information
Communication Technology industry. The Network is a critical link between
government, business, the education sector and other industry associations
to collaborate on, and influence the direction of ICT in Victoria.

It was established in response to a growing acknowledgement by government
and the industry of the declining number of women entering the industry as
well as the impact of current low participation levels on the skills base of
ICT in Victoria. The Network represents a real desire by government,
industry and vendors to 'invest in action' to address the skills gap and
lack of interest in pursuing ICT careers by increasing awareness of the
diversity of ICT roles.

Kind regards
Bianca Brownlow
Manager
Vic ICT for Women p: 03 9520 3515 f: 03 9520 3556  www.vicictforwomen.com.au



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From d.godden at ioof.com.au  Tue Jul  3 17:35:20 2007
From: d.godden at ioof.com.au (GODDEN, Dwayne)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:35:20 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Win32::Process
Message-ID: <FB120A6865FF7741A38A948247A91F12129400C0@MELSSRV007.ioof.com.au>

Hello all.

 

                I need some help with Win32::Process.

 

                What I need is when the process die's ( on it's own ) I
need to be restarted.

                Note this also runs in PerlSvc

 

                Code

------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------

 

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;

package PerlSvc;

 

use strict;

use Win32::Process;

 

our %Config;

 

sub Startup {

    my $Process;

    my $smsgateway = PerlSvc::extract_bound_file('sms_gateway.exe');

    Win32::Process::Create(

        $Process,

        $smsgateway,

        'Sms_Gateway.exe',

        0,

        NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS,

        "."

    );

    while (ContinueRun(10)) { }

    $Process->Kill(0);

}

 

sub Pause { }

sub Continue { }

sub Interactive { }

sub Help { }

 

sub Install {

    $Config{ServiceName} = 'SMS_Server';

    $Config{DisplayName} = 'SMS Gateway Server';

 

    # add your additional install messages or functions here

    print "\nInstall compleate\n";

}

 

sub Remove {

    $Config{ServiceName} = 'SMS_Server';

 

    # add your additional remove messages or functions here

    print "\nSMS Server removed\n";

}

 

package main;

 

1;

 

 

 

 

Dwayne Godden
Enterprise Engineer - Communication Specialist

 

IOOF Investment Management
ABN 53 006 695 021
AFS Licence No. 230 524

d.godden at ioof.com.au
Phone 03 8614 4828
Fax 03 8614 4908
Mobile 0411 653 435

Level 10, 303 Collins Street, Melbourne VIC 3000

 

 

 



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From ddick at aapt.net.au  Wed Jul  4 05:11:46 2007
From: ddick at aapt.net.au (David Dick)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:11:46 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Win32::Process
In-Reply-To: <FB120A6865FF7741A38A948247A91F12129400C0@MELSSRV007.ioof.com.au>
References: <FB120A6865FF7741A38A948247A91F12129400C0@MELSSRV007.ioof.com.au>
Message-ID: <468B8E82.5080406@aapt.net.au>

GODDEN, Dwayne wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> I need some help with Win32::Process.
>
> What I need is when the process die?s ( on it?s own ) I need to be 
> restarted.
>
> Note this also runs in PerlSvc
>
Hi Dwayne,
What part of Win32::Process is giving you grief?
Cheers
-Dave

From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Wed Jul  4 23:14:15 2007
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:14:15 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Perl development job advertised on perl.net.au
Message-ID: <468C8C37.9010302@perltraining.com.au>

G'day everyone,

A new job has just been added to the Melbourne Perl Mongers talk page:
http://perl.net.au/wiki/Talk:Melbourne_Perl_Mongers

I've included the details below.  I don't know anything else about this job
other than what it says.

----

Perl Developer required for 1 year fixed term contract

Currently in the process of undertaking a large, organisational wide development
an exciting opportunity for an experienced .Net Developer has arisen, to utilise
their current skill set, and to build upon it in this dynamic up and coming
organisation.

In this role you will work across analysis, design, coding, testing and
implementation of new developments, modifications and enhancements within the
current domain. You will liaise with clients in regard to design and logic
issues and develop and carry out unit and integration test plans. Support must
also be provided for the development environment as well as for existing
applications where required and regular feedback provided to supervisors on
project progress and any issues encountered.

As the successful candidate it is mandatory that you possess a solid
understanding of Object Oriented methodologies using UML and demonstrable
working experience of web technologies including Perl/CGI/PHP (mandatory for the
role), HTML, XSLT, XML, Javascript and SQL. Linux system administration is also
required along with UNIX scripting languages. It is expected that you possess
strong communication skills along with the ability to work as a team player
within a rapidly changing business environment. A working knowledge of use case
modeling and testing, testing tools and a tertiary qualification in IT will also
be highly regarded.


Contact

Matt Cargill - 03 8613 1335 Email - mcargill at hjb.com.au

From skud at infotrope.net  Wed Jul  4 23:15:55 2007
From: skud at infotrope.net (Kirrily Robert)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:15:55 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Meeting next week?
Message-ID: <b08e1490707042315o2620d0d8k9740761c716396b@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, do we have a meeting next Wednesday, July 11th?

K.

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From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Wed Jul  4 23:21:22 2007
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:21:22 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] AGM minutes?
Message-ID: <468C8DE2.6070706@perltraining.com.au>

Are there AGM minutes floating around?  Who got elected?

	J

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From pjf at perltraining.com.au  Thu Jul  5 03:09:14 2007
From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:09:14 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] AGM minutes?
In-Reply-To: <468C8DE2.6070706@perltraining.com.au>
References: <468C8DE2.6070706@perltraining.com.au>
Message-ID: <468CC34A.3020201@perltraining.com.au>

Jacinta Richardson wrote:
> Are there AGM minutes floating around?  Who got elected?

These are on the wiki, with many thanks to Alec for posting them there:

http://perl.net.au/wiki/Melbourne_Perl_Mongers/Meeting_History_2007

In short, I stepped down as Secretary, Alec became the new secretary, and
the remainder of the positions that were filled remained the same.

Cheerio,

	Paul

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From alecclews at gmail.com  Sun Jul  8 21:09:41 2007
From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:09:41 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] June Meeting this Wed
Message-ID: <1183954181.28029.6.camel@tardis.vic.optushome.com.au>

The 11th July meeting has snuck up on my unawares :-(, so I apologise
for the short notice

Does anyone have topics they would like to talk about? In the run up to
OSDC 07 this is a great opportunity to practise any presentations you
have proposed.





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From leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au  Mon Jul  9 02:23:42 2007
From: leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au (leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:23:42 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] June Meeting this Wed
Message-ID: <6462CBB658614845A7702E379880769802425F22@exhnat2.nsw.hpa>

I can do an arm-waver - the talk will be what I hope to put into the
OSDC2007 CFP, as soon as I can get some time.

L 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: alecclews at gmail.com [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, 9 July 2007 2:10 PM
> To: melbourne-pm at pm.org
> Subject: [Melbourne-pm] June Meeting this Wed
> 
> The 11th July meeting has snuck up on my unawares :-(, so I 
> apologise for the short notice
> 
> Does anyone have topics they would like to talk about? In the 
> run up to OSDC 07 this is a great opportunity to practise any 
> presentations you have proposed.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From alecclews at gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 14:02:21 2007
From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:02:21 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Perl Mongers Meeting: Wed 11 July 2007
Message-ID: <3c2b63c00707091402o63b8fa0dw6453c22f576a0e76@mail.gmail.com>

G'day everyone,

(with apologies for the short notice)

You and all of your friends, family and other interested people are invited to
our meeting

        Date:           Wednesday 11th July 2007
        Time:           6:30pm
        Location:       Editure
                        (Usual place)
                         Level 8, 14 Blackwood Street, North Melbourne

Talks:

         1. Leif Eriksen: Topic TBA

        2. Jacinda Richardson: Demonstration of the Regex Coach

         3. Alec Clews: Enterprise Change Control with RT (abridged)

There is also an ongoing discussion about the future of perl.net.au
(see http://perl.net.au/wiki/Official_Perl_5_wiki_discussion) which we
may continue at the meeting or the pub if anyone is interested.

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From alecclews at gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 18:16:32 2007
From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:16:32 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] (Updated) Perl Mongers Meeting: Wed 11 July 2007
Message-ID: <3c2b63c00707091816u3d71e04ck65f6e3babc3c81bf@mail.gmail.com>

G'day everyone,

(We now have a title for Leif's  presentation)

You and all of your friends, family and other interested people are invited to
our meeting

        Date:           Wednesday 11th July 2007
        Time:           6:30pm
        Location:       Editure
                        (Usual place)
                         Level 8, 14 Blackwood Street, North Melbourne

Talks:

         1. Leif Eriksen: Testing database-driven apps without using a database

        2. Jacinda Richardson: Demonstration of the Regex Coach

         3. Alec Clews: Enterprise Change Control with RT (abridged)

There is also an ongoing discussion about the future of perl.net.au
(see http://perl.net.au/wiki/Official_Perl_5_wiki_discussion) which we
may continue at the meeting or the pub if anyone is interested.

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From leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au  Mon Jul  9 18:22:00 2007
From: leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au (leif.eriksen at hpa.com.au)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:22:00 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] (Updated) Perl Mongers Meeting: Wed 11 July 2007
Message-ID: <6462CBB658614845A7702E379880769802425F4F@exhnat2.nsw.hpa>

I'll just add that my title is a small lie intended to pique your
curiosity - I intend to show how to test without all the infrastructure
of a full-blown RDBMS like Oracle or MySQL. The resulting application
should be easily portable to any RDBMS technology you care to choose.

See you there
Leif

> -----Original Message-----
> From: alecclews at gmail.com [mailto:alecclews at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:17 AM
> To: melbourne-pm at pm.org
> Subject: [Melbourne-pm] (Updated) Perl Mongers Meeting: Wed 
> 11 July 2007
> 
> G'day everyone,
> 
> (We now have a title for Leif's  presentation)
> 
> You and all of your friends, family and other interested 
> people are invited to our meeting
> 
>         Date:           Wednesday 11th July 2007
>         Time:           6:30pm
>         Location:       Editure
>                         (Usual place)
>                          Level 8, 14 Blackwood Street, North Melbourne
> 
> Talks:
> 
>          1. Leif Eriksen: Testing database-driven apps 
> without using a database
> 
>         2. Jacinda Richardson: Demonstration of the Regex Coach
> 
>          3. Alec Clews: Enterprise Change Control with RT (abridged)
> 
> There is also an ongoing discussion about the future of 
> perl.net.au (see 
> http://perl.net.au/wiki/Official_Perl_5_wiki_discussion) 
> which we may continue at the meeting or the pub if anyone is 
> interested.
> 
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From pjf at perltraining.com.au  Mon Jul  9 19:04:11 2007
From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:04:11 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] RFC: PerlNet and the Perl 5 wiki
Message-ID: <4692E91B.3010305@perltraining.com.au>

G'day everyone,

There's been a bit of discussion recently with a new Perl 5 wiki that can be
found at:

	http://perlfoundation.org/perl5

In particular, there's an ongoing discussion regarding what the relationship
should be between PerlNet and the new P5 wiki.  If you're interested in the
background, or would like to make your own voice heard, I encourage you to
do so at:

	http://perl.net.au/wiki/Official_Perl_5_wiki_discussion

There's also sporadic conversations (and notification of discussion updates)
on #PerlNet on irc.freenode.net.

Cheerio,

	Paul

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From scottp at dd.com.au  Tue Jul 10 17:03:58 2007
From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:03:58 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Perl Mongers Meeting: Wed 11 July 2007
In-Reply-To: <3c2b63c00707091402o63b8fa0dw6453c22f576a0e76@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3c2b63c00707091402o63b8fa0dw6453c22f576a0e76@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <150693A1-3D7E-4D3E-9893-78BB4BB3C082@dd.com.au>

If we run out of talks and still have time I can talk about Google  
Web Toolkit integration with Perl/Catalyst - abridged version of the  
talk I did for OSDClub.

Scott

On 10/07/2007, at 7:02 AM, Alec Clews wrote:

> G'day everyone,
>
> (with apologies for the short notice)
>
> You and all of your friends, family and other interested people are  
> invited to
> our meeting
>
>         Date:           Wednesday 11th July 2007
>         Time:           6:30pm
>         Location:       Editure
>                         (Usual place)
>                          Level 8, 14 Blackwood Street, North Melbourne
>
> Talks:
>
>          1. Leif Eriksen: Topic TBA
>
>         2. Jacinda Richardson: Demonstration of the Regex Coach
>
>          3. Alec Clews: Enterprise Change Control with RT (abridged)
>
> There is also an ongoing discussion about the future of perl.net.au
> (see http://perl.net.au/wiki/Official_Perl_5_wiki_discussion) which we
> may continue at the meeting or the pub if anyone is interested.
>
> -- 
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From alecclews at gmail.com  Tue Jul 10 17:14:20 2007
From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:14:20 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Perl Mongers Meeting: Wed 11 July 2007
In-Reply-To: <150693A1-3D7E-4D3E-9893-78BB4BB3C082@dd.com.au>
References: <3c2b63c00707091402o63b8fa0dw6453c22f576a0e76@mail.gmail.com>
	<150693A1-3D7E-4D3E-9893-78BB4BB3C082@dd.com.au>
Message-ID: <3c2b63c00707101714yc4e180bl854e077696c8b1e8@mail.gmail.com>

That might have more value than the current state of my talk which is
long on "Enterprise" and "Process" but short on practical examples and
advice.

Can we move mine to say Sept'ish and impose upon you Scott?

On 11/07/07, Scott Penrose <scottp at dd.com.au> wrote:
> If we run out of talks and still have time I can talk about Google
> Web Toolkit integration with Perl/Catalyst - abridged version of the
> talk I did for OSDClub.
>
> Scott
>
> On 10/07/2007, at 7:02 AM, Alec Clews wrote:
>
> > G'day everyone,
> >
> > (with apologies for the short notice)
> >
> > You and all of your friends, family and other interested people are
> > invited to
> > our meeting
> >
> >         Date:           Wednesday 11th July 2007
> >         Time:           6:30pm
> >         Location:       Editure
> >                         (Usual place)
> >                          Level 8, 14 Blackwood Street, North Melbourne
> >
> > Talks:
> >
> >          1. Leif Eriksen: Topic TBA
> >
> >         2. Jacinda Richardson: Demonstration of the Regex Coach
> >
> >          3. Alec Clews: Enterprise Change Control with RT (abridged)
> >
> > There is also an ongoing discussion about the future of perl.net.au
> > (see http://perl.net.au/wiki/Official_Perl_5_wiki_discussion) which we
> > may continue at the meeting or the pub if anyone is interested.
> >
> > --
> > Alec Clews <alecclews at gmail.com>             Melbourne, Australia.
> > Jabber:  alecclews at jabber.org.au             PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C
> > blog:http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/
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> > Melbourne-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pm
>
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> Scott Penrose
> Anthropomorphic Personification Expert
> http://search.cpan.org/search?author=SCOTT
> scott at cpan.org
>
> Dismaimer: While every attempt has been made to make sure that this
> email only contains zeros and ones, there has been no effort made to
> guarantee the quantity or the order.
>
> Please do not send me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
> Microsoft is not the answer. It's the question. And the answer is no.
>
>
>


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From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Tue Jul 10 18:44:51 2007
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:44:51 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] SECURECon 2007 - Call For Papers
Message-ID: <46943613.8020503@perltraining.com.au>

Perhaps some here would like to give a presentation.  It's not a big conference,
but it's lots of fun!  In the past participation in the conference has been
free.  I imagine it will be so again this year, but I'm just passing this on
from another mailing list.

	J

-----------------------

SECURECon 2007 - Information Technology Security Conference

November 7-9 2007

The University of Melbourne

SECURECon aims to provide an affordable forum for high quality presentations,
workshops and tutorials about information technology security for the University
of Melbourne IT community and general public.

The 5th SECURECon will feature one day of workshops and tutorials focused on
hands on learning in a lab environment and two days of presentations.

The SECURECon committee invites all interested parties to submit presentations
on any topic in computer security for November 8-9.

The theme for this year will be: Securing open environments

Example technical presentations could cover topics such as Peer-to-peer
security, VOIP, Wireless, Phishing and Internet social networking eg.
www.myspace.com

Other technical talks on hardening operating systems and network infrastructure
are also welcome.

For example of past presentations, please visit
http://securecon.unimelb.edu.au/archive

Presentations will be 50 minutes in length and all submissions (including slides
to present) need to be emailed to:

submit at securecon.unimelb.edu.au

By 5:00pm Monday October 15

All enquiries and an optional bio can also be sent to the above email
address.

Please visit http://securecon.unimelb.edu.au for more information.

Thanks for supporting SECURECon 2007!


--
Cheers,

Nick.

-------------------------------------------------------
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Phone: +61 3 9674 5543
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From scottp at dd.com.au  Wed Jul 11 15:53:04 2007
From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:53:04 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Great news re: pm.org Wiki
Message-ID: <E41D46F4-5311-4B8B-B7C3-D7F2FBE4F7C5@dd.com.au>

pm.org will now be putting up a wiki for any pm.org group that wants  
it - HORRAH ! Finally happening.

It should be up and running really soon (uses the same system as the  
perl6, parrot and perl5 service).

Scott
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From alecclews at gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 23:32:47 2007
From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:32:47 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Fwd: [MXPEG] Conference in Sydney on CI and Testing
In-Reply-To: <5edfc9750707111929v6d7ab78u16b786df3c550503@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5edfc9750707111929v6d7ab78u16b786df3c550503@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c2b63c00707112332q48434f59id42aca38810c40dd@mail.gmail.com>

(Sorry about the HTML)

 I forgot to mention this at the meeting on Tuesday night..... Please cross

post this to relevant interested groups.... They have 100 people so far,
and can fit another 50...
cheers,
Erik

http://www.citconf.com/sydney2007/index.php

The Open Information Foundation, co-founded by Jeffrey Fredrick and Paul
Julius, presents CITCON Asia/Pacific 2007 in Sydney, Australia.

CITCON (Continuous Integration and Testing Conference) brings together
people from every corner of the software development industry to discuss
Continuous Integration and the type of Testing that goes along with it.

- What: OpenSpace
<http://www.citconf.com/sydney2007/openspace.php>event discussing all
aspects of CI and Testing, together
- Where: Sydney Marriott
Hotel<http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/sydcc-sydney-marriott-hotel/>,
36 College St., Sydney, Australia
- When: July 27 & 28, 2007
- Who: Everyone interested in CI and Testing
- Cost: Free

Attendance is limited to 150 delegates on a first-come, first-served basis,
so register <http://www.citconf.com/sydney2007/register.php> now!

If you are interested in finding out more about CITCON Asia/Pacific and
future events please join the CITCON mailing list.

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From pjf at perltraining.com.au  Thu Jul 12 20:38:28 2007
From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:38:28 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Dual-licensing of PerlNet content
Message-ID: <4696F3B4.5000909@perltraining.com.au>

G'day everyone,

My apologies for all the PerlNet e-mails.  This should be the last one you
see from one for a while.

As some of you may be aware, The Perl 5 Wiki
<http://perlfoundation.org/perl5> launched a few days ago.  I've been
working with the P5wiki admins to try and find the best way to allow for
material to be more freely exchanged between the wikis, and I have a favour
to ask of anyone here who has contributed to PerlNet.

Please consider dual-licensing your PerlNet contributions under the Perl 5
license (Artistic/GPL).  This will open the door for them to appear on The
Perl 5 Wiki, in the Perl documentation, and in other places where the Perl 5
license is used.

Indicating that you agree to this dual-license is a *very* simple process.
Just login to PerlNet, go to your user page, and add the following text:

	{{Perl5-license}}

that will place a notice on your page indicating your consent to the Perl 5
license, and add you to a list of agreeing contributors.

For more information regarding on dual-licensing, see:

	http://perl.net.au/wiki/Perl_5_wiki_HOWTO

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me directly, or
to join the discussions on irc.freenode.net #PerlNet

All the very best,

	Paul

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From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Sun Jul 15 18:17:38 2007
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:17:38 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Regex Coach address and meeting summary
Message-ID: <469AC732.7060006@perltraining.com.au>

For those who wanted the URL to the Regex Coach program I showed off during the
last meeting it is:  http://weitz.de/regex-coach/

For those who missed some or all of the meeting, Leif has provided a summary on
our meeting history page at:

http://perl.net.au/wiki/Melbourne_Perl_Mongers/Meeting_History_2007

I look forward to seeing you all at the OSDClub meeting we're hosting on the 8th
August.  If anyone has any (mostly) language-agnostic but otherwise really
interesting topics they'd like to give a talk on, I'd love to hear from you.

	Jacinta

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From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Sun Jul 15 19:30:24 2007
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:30:24 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Web provider for Catalyst applications
Message-ID: <469AD840.9000003@perltraining.com.au>

G'day everyone,

A client of mine has some Perl and Catalyst applications she'd like to move
to another hosting provider and has asked me for some advice.  Although I can
suggest some great US companies which offer Catalyst out of the box on virtual
servers etc, I'm having some difficulty finding anyone in Australia who does so
as well.  At the moment having an Australian ISP is a requirement, with a
preference for an east-coast main office.

We are willing to consider a VPS package which provides root access, as I'm very
happy to do the Perl and Catalyst installation if required.  However I'm not
planning on being her long-term system administrator, so I'd like a plan which
includes general system maintenance including keeping Perl, Catalyst and the
database software up to date.  We'd be even happier for shared hosting so long
as Perl 5.8.x and Catalyst were available.

Price is obviously a concern, but I am happy to giver her quotes of anything up
to $100/month, ($1200/year).  I don't know that she'd pick something that high,
but I'm determined to give her options.

Can anyone recommend a business which is going to be able to fulfil these needs?

All the best,

	Jacinta

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From alecclews at gmail.com  Mon Jul 16 14:02:56 2007
From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:02:56 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Regex Coach address and meeting summary
In-Reply-To: <469AC732.7060006@perltraining.com.au>
References: <469AC732.7060006@perltraining.com.au>
Message-ID: <1184619776.19656.1.camel@tardis.vic.optushome.com.au>

There is some help on running Regex Coach under Linux Wine at
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=7513

Seems to work for me

(I've also added a pointer on PerlNet)

On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 11:17 +1000, Jacinta Richardson wrote:
> For those who wanted the URL to the Regex Coach program I showed off during the
> last meeting it is:  http://weitz.de/regex-coach/
> 
> For those who missed some or all of the meeting, Leif has provided a summary on
> our meeting history page at:
> 
> http://perl.net.au/wiki/Melbourne_Perl_Mongers/Meeting_History_2007
> 
> I look forward to seeing you all at the OSDClub meeting we're hosting on the 8th
> August.  If anyone has any (mostly) language-agnostic but otherwise really
> interesting topics they'd like to give a talk on, I'd love to hear from you.
> 
> 	Jacinta
> 
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From adam.clarke at strategicdata.com.au  Tue Jul 17 05:25:29 2007
From: adam.clarke at strategicdata.com.au (Adam Clarke)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:25:29 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Web provider for Catalyst applications
In-Reply-To: <469AD840.9000003@perltraining.com.au>
References: <469AD840.9000003@perltraining.com.au>
Message-ID: <2D9A3130-91D2-4C93-B064-4B90E80E4D2E@strategicdata.com.au>

On 16/07/2007, at 12:30 PM, Jacinta Richardson wrote:

> ,A client of mine has some Perl and Catalyst applications she'd  
> like to move
> to another hosting provider and has asked me for some advice.   
> Although I can
> suggest some great US companies which offer Catalyst out of the box  
> on virtual
> servers etc, I'm having some difficulty finding anyone in Australia  
> who does so
> as well.  At the moment having an Australian ISP is a requirement,  
> with a
> preference for an east-coast main office.

http://rimuhosting.com/

They are actually from NZ so if the above requirements are hard then  
they may be no good. That said they have some things in their favour

o  they have VPS servers in Brisbane (as well as Dallas, NY, and  
London), so they may meet the intent rather then the letter of the  
above requirements.
o choice of Linux distros
    * Centos5 (RimuHosting Recommended Distro)
    * RimuHosting Enterprise Linux 4 (RHEL4-based)
    * Debian 4.0 (aka Etch)
    * Debian 3.1 (aka Sarge)
    * Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake with 5 yr long term support (LTS))
    * Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn, latest 6 monthly release)
    * Fedora 7
    * Fedora Core 6
o I have heard them recommended quite a few times
o only offer products where you get root (SSH)
o offer discounts to OSS developers

USD $40/month buys a pretty decent package in the US, bandwidth on  
the Aussie servers is more expensive than civilised places so they  
cost more.

We are looking at a US based one for a client at the moment.

Cheers
--
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www.strategicdata.com.au




From melbourne.pm at joshheumann.com  Tue Jul 17 06:13:02 2007
From: melbourne.pm at joshheumann.com (Josh Heumann)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:13:02 -0700
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Web provider for Catalyst applications
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References: <469AD840.9000003@perltraining.com.au>
	<2D9A3130-91D2-4C93-B064-4B90E80E4D2E@strategicdata.com.au>
Message-ID: <20070717131302.GA16529@joshheumann.com>

<quote who='Adam Clarke' when='Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:25:29PM +1000'>
> http://rimuhosting.com/

I guess that means I *can* recommend one after all.  I've been using
Rimu for several years now, and I'm liking it enough.  The folks who man
the IM help desk aren't terribly clever, but the package I've got with a
friend (we're on the Denver server, I believe) gives us root as well as
any distro we want. I've even installed both Catalyst and Jifty on it.

Jacinta, I'd be happy to answer any other questions if they sound like
they might be a good fit for your client.

J

From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Thu Jul 19 20:07:12 2007
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:07:12 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] LCA CFP closes today
Message-ID: <46A026E0.2050808@perltraining.com.au>

As you probably know the next Linux.conf.au will be running in Melbourne in
January.  If you were planning on submitting a talk proposal, this is a reminder
that the CFP closes in 11 hours  (11:59pm Friday 20th July).

http://linux.conf.au/presentations/announcement

All the best,

	J

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From alecclews at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 01:25:22 2007
From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:25:22 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Fwd: [WSG Melbourne] Webby Women, We Need You!
In-Reply-To: <75969234_96474431@mail.webboy.net>
References: <75969234_96474431@mail.webboy.net>
Message-ID: <3c2b63c00707230125w9c20d0dnbb4a2a66d906d448@mail.gmail.com>

FYI:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Matthew Magain <matthew at magain.com>
Date: 23-Jul-2007 11:00
Subject: [WSG Melbourne] Webby Women, We Need You!
To: melbourne-announce at webstandardsgroup.org


**************************************************************
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**************************************************************
Hi Melbourne WSG peeps

Next Thursday, we're holding what we hope to the first in a series of
short debates about issues affecting web professionals, and it should be
a lot of fun. I've just published the details to the WSG site:

http://webstandardsgroup.org/meetings/index.cfm?event_id=98

There's just one thing: we need a few more debaters to step forward.
Ideally, it would be cool if we got some girls involved, so that the
evening is not one big sausage-fest. Go take a look at the topics (no,
they're not all technical!). If you think you have 3 minutes to say on
any of them, write back to me ASAP! And if you know of anyone who you
think would like to be involved, please forward this email to them.

Hope to hear from you,

Regards
Matt


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From alecclews at gmail.com  Wed Jul 25 21:48:24 2007
From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:48:24 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Committee Meeting
Message-ID: <3c2b63c00707252148n4a779ca5lf2e63501239042aa@mail.gmail.com>

When does MPM hold committee meetings?

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From skud at infotrope.net  Thu Jul 26 06:36:11 2007
From: skud at infotrope.net (Kirrily Robert)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:36:11 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] Take the Perl Survey
Message-ID: <b08e1490707260636u1e3a29d9yeb93d8bf8d9ce56e@mail.gmail.com>

Not often we get the jump on the US during conference season, but
they're only just waking up and dealing with their hangovers right
now.

Anyway, I just set this up:  http://perlsurvey.org

Here's the official promo blurb:

-----

Take part in the 2007 Perl Survey!

The Perl Survey is an attempt to capture a picture of the Perl community
in all its diversity.  No matter what sort of Perl programmer you are,
we'd love to hear from you.

The survey can be found at: http://perlsurvey.org

It only takes about 5 minutes to complete.

The survey will be open until September 30th, 2007.  After that, we'll be
reporting on the results and making the data freely available.

Please feel free to forward this email to anyone other Perl programmers
you know.

Thanks for your help!

Yours,

Kirrily "Skud" Robert
The Perl Survey
info at perlsurvey.org


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From lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au  Thu Jul 26 21:14:10 2007
From: lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au (Leigh Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:14:10 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] DBI connect()'s, scope and disconnects
Message-ID: <H0000069001dd3cd.1185509650.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>

Hi All,
Can someone clear up a couple of things for me here?
I have some code which does something like this:
 
foreach(@an_array)
{
 
    my $dbh=DBI->connect($dsn);
    # Do some other stuff here.
    last if (some_condition == true);
    $dbh->disconnect();
 
}
 
Question is, if some_condition is true, the loop ends and $dbh goes out
of scope. Does disconnect() get called on $dbh automatically? Or do I
have a database connection still, even though I can't actually use it?
This could cause grief for the database server if stale connections are
still hanging around.
 
On a related note, does disconnect() get called automatically when a
program ends? Even if not explicitly called?
 
 
 
 
Regards,
             Leigh
 
Leigh Sharpe
Network Systems Engineer
Pacific Wireless
Ph +61 3 9584 8966
Mob 0408 009 502
Helpdesk 1300 300 616
email lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au
web www.pacificwireless.com.au
 

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From brendon.oliver at gmail.com  Thu Jul 26 21:23:20 2007
From: brendon.oliver at gmail.com (Brendon Oliver)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:23:20 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] DBI connect()'s, scope and disconnects
In-Reply-To: <H0000069001dd3cd.1185509650.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>
References: <H0000069001dd3cd.1185509650.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>
Message-ID: <200707271423.20073.brendon.oliver@gmail.com>

On Friday 27 July 2007 14:14:10 Leigh Sharpe wrote:
> Hi All,
> Can someone clear up a couple of things for me here?
> I have some code which does something like this:
>
> foreach(@an_array)
> {
>
>     my $dbh=DBI->connect($dsn);
>     # Do some other stuff here.
>     last if (some_condition == true);
>     $dbh->disconnect();
>
> }

If you have a currently-executing statement handle (eg. looping though query 
results), you may get some complaints from that (something along the lines of 
telling you that you should call finish() first), but generally destruction 
of a database object will close the connection (at least, that seems to be 
the case with DBD::Pg handles).

> Question is, if some_condition is true, the loop ends and $dbh goes out
> of scope. 

Why not just disconnect before the condition?

foreach(@an_array)
{
     my $dbh=DBI->connect($dsn);
     # Do some other stuff here.
     $dbh->disconnect();
     last if (some_condition == true);
}

seems to me to make more sense that way...

cheers,

- B>




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From thatha at gmail.com  Thu Jul 26 21:26:52 2007
From: thatha at gmail.com (Gautam Gopalakrishnan)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:26:52 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] DBI connect()'s, scope and disconnects
In-Reply-To: <H0000069001dd3cd.1185509650.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>
References: <H0000069001dd3cd.1185509650.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>
Message-ID: <a3ada2d10707262126hdf0be74t44d4db446eb2bc8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

> foreach(@an_array)
> {
>     my $dbh=DBI->connect($dsn);
>     # Do some other stuff here.
>     last if (some_condition == true);
>     $dbh->disconnect();
>
> }
>
> Question is, if some_condition is true, the loop ends and $dbh goes out of
> scope. Does disconnect() get called on $dbh automatically?

It does (as per the documentation) but safer way would be to put the
disconnect inside a continue block.

foreach (@array) {
   #connect, and do stuff
}
continue {
   $dbh->disconnect() (if defined $dbh)
}

Though opening and closing the db handle outside the loop is the
better way to do things ...

From lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au  Thu Jul 26 21:27:52 2007
From: lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au (Leigh Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:27:52 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] DBI connect()'s, scope and disconnects
In-Reply-To: <200707271423.20073.brendon.oliver@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <H0000069001dd4f1.1185510471.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>

 

>If you have a currently-executing statement handle (eg. looping though query 
>results), you may get some complaints from that (something along the lines of 
>telling you that you should call finish() first), but generally destruction 
>of a database object will close the connection (at least, that seems to be 
>the case with DBD::Pg handles).

I make sure all statement handles are finished at this point, so that's not a problem.
(This is actually using DBD::mysql)..

>foreach(@an_array)
>{
>     my $dbh=DBI->connect($dsn);
>     # Do some other stuff here.
>     $dbh->disconnect();
>     last if (some_condition == true);
>}
> seems to me to make more sense that way...


Except when you want to keep using the connection if the condition is false.

Regards,
             Leigh
 
Leigh Sharpe
Network Systems Engineer
Pacific Wireless
Ph +61 3 9584 8966
Mob 0408 009 502
Helpdesk 1300 300 616
email lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au
web www.pacificwireless.com.au

-----Original Message-----
From: Brendon Oliver [mailto:brendon.oliver at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 27 July 2007 2:23 PM
To: melbourne-pm
Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] DBI connect()'s, scope and disconnects

On Friday 27 July 2007 14:14:10 Leigh Sharpe wrote:
> Hi All,
> Can someone clear up a couple of things for me here?
> I have some code which does something like this:
>
> foreach(@an_array)
> {
>
>     my $dbh=DBI->connect($dsn);
>     # Do some other stuff here.
>     last if (some_condition == true);
>     $dbh->disconnect();
>
> }

If you have a currently-executing statement handle (eg. looping though query 
results), you may get some complaints from that (something along the lines of 
telling you that you should call finish() first), but generally destruction 
of a database object will close the connection (at least, that seems to be 
the case with DBD::Pg handles).

> Question is, if some_condition is true, the loop ends and $dbh goes out
> of scope. 

Why not just disconnect before the condition?

foreach(@an_array)
{
     my $dbh=DBI->connect($dsn);
     # Do some other stuff here.
     $dbh->disconnect();
     last if (some_condition == true);
}

seems to me to make more sense that way...

cheers,

- B>




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From brendon.oliver at gmail.com  Thu Jul 26 21:32:15 2007
From: brendon.oliver at gmail.com (Brendon Oliver)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:32:15 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] DBI connect()'s, scope and disconnects
In-Reply-To: <H0000069001dd4f1.1185510471.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>
References: <H0000069001dd4f1.1185510471.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>
Message-ID: <200707271432.15753.brendon.oliver@gmail.com>

On Friday 27 July 2007 14:27:52 Leigh Sharpe wrote:

> >foreach(@an_array)
> >{
> >     my $dbh=DBI->connect($dsn);
> >     # Do some other stuff here.
> >     $dbh->disconnect();
> >     last if (some_condition == true);
> >}
> > seems to me to make more sense that way...
>
> Except when you want to keep using the connection if the condition is
> false.


well.. you didn't say there was more stuff between the 'last if...' and the 
disconnect() in your example ;-)

Also, unless the DBI->connect($dsn) in your loop has some magic which pools 
connections, I believe you will get a new connection on each iteration 
through the loop...

Cheers,

- B.



-- 
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but they do not know the utility of futility.
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From lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au  Thu Jul 26 21:50:09 2007
From: lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au (Leigh Sharpe)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:50:09 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] DBI connect()'s, scope and disconnects
In-Reply-To: <a3ada2d10707262126hdf0be74t44d4db446eb2bc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <H0000069001dd4fa.1185511809.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>

 


>foreach (@array) {
>   #connect, and do stuff
>}
>continue {
>   $dbh->disconnect() (if defined $dbh)
>}

Isn't $dbh already out of scope once the continue block is called?

Regards,
             Leigh
 
Leigh Sharpe
Network Systems Engineer
Pacific Wireless
Ph +61 3 9584 8966
Mob 0408 009 502
Helpdesk 1300 300 616
email lsharpe at pacificwireless.com.au
web www.pacificwireless.com.au

-----Original Message-----
From: Gautam Gopalakrishnan [mailto:thatha at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 27 July 2007 2:27 PM
To: melbourne-pm
Subject: Re: [Melbourne-pm] DBI connect()'s, scope and disconnects

Hi,

> foreach(@an_array)
> {
>     my $dbh=DBI->connect($dsn);
>     # Do some other stuff here.
>     last if (some_condition == true);
>     $dbh->disconnect();
>
> }
>
> Question is, if some_condition is true, the loop ends and $dbh goes out of
> scope. Does disconnect() get called on $dbh automatically?

It does (as per the documentation) but safer way would be to put the
disconnect inside a continue block.

foreach (@array) {
   #connect, and do stuff
}
continue {
   $dbh->disconnect() (if defined $dbh)
}

Though opening and closing the db handle outside the loop is the
better way to do things ...
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From thatha at gmail.com  Thu Jul 26 22:12:23 2007
From: thatha at gmail.com (Gautam Gopalakrishnan)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:12:23 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] DBI connect()'s, scope and disconnects
In-Reply-To: <H0000069001dd4fa.1185511809.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>
References: <a3ada2d10707262126hdf0be74t44d4db446eb2bc8@mail.gmail.com>
	<H0000069001dd4fa.1185511809.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>
Message-ID: <a3ada2d10707262212n652f8093u2ed6ff2222c8743a@mail.gmail.com>

> >foreach (@array) {
> >   #connect, and do stuff
> >}
> >continue {
> >   $dbh->disconnect() (if defined $dbh)
> >}
>
> Isn't $dbh already out of scope once the continue block is called?

$ perl -le 'while(my $x = <>) {print "1.$x"} continue{print "2.$x"}'
works like how I wanted it to.

$ perl -le 'while(<>) {my $x=$_; print "1.$x"} continue{print "2.$x"}'
does not and this is the case we're talking about. You can get around
it by declaring $dbh just before the loop, but not sure if that's
acceptable.

From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Sat Jul 28 00:09:00 2007
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:09:00 +1000
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] DBI connect()'s, scope and disconnects
In-Reply-To: <H0000069001dd3cd.1185509650.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>
References: <H0000069001dd3cd.1185509650.mail.pacificwireless.net.au@MHS>
Message-ID: <46AAEB8C.5020203@perltraining.com.au>

Leigh Sharpe wrote:

> Question is, if some_condition is true, the loop ends and $dbh goes out
> of scope. Does disconnect() get called on $dbh automatically? Or do I
> have a database connection still, even though I can't actually use it?

disconnect gets called automatically when the handle goes out of scope.  This
happens because the object is destroyed.

> On a related note, does disconnect() get called automatically when a
> program ends? Even if not explicitly called?

Yes.  The same as above, whenever the database handle goes out of scope
(possibly at the end of your program) its DESTROY method is called and this
calls disconnect for you if the handle is active.

On another note though, are you connecting to the same database for each array
item?  If so, then your program will be faster if you connect first, do the
foreach and then disconnect.

All the best,

	Jacinta

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From paul.rodger at n6.com.au  Sat Jul 28 23:56:43 2007
From: paul.rodger at n6.com.au (Paul Rodger)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:56:43 -0700
Subject: [Melbourne-pm] [job] mod_perl developer for learning management
	system
Message-ID: <415AD65C134E3F4FA0B4D06C88D63F30BA7F37E2@EXVMBX015-3.exch015.msoutlookonline.net>

# Hello Melbourne Perl Mongers.

my $job_ad = '

We require perl programmers for work on a web-based Learning Management System (LMS)
using mod_perl and Oracle.

Required skills:
    * Perl programming experience in a web environment
    * Relational database and SQL skills
    * HTML/Javascript
    * Good communication skills

Bonus skills:
    * Oracle
    * Apache and mod_perl
    * Unix (especially Linux)
    * Experience with Learning Management Systems
    * SCORM and AICC
    * CSS, XML and AJAX
    * Subversion or CVS
    * Prototyping
    * Client-side Java
    * Unicode and internationalisation

About Nexus6 Software

We are a small and friendly software development house specialising in
building web applications (mostly Learning Management Systems).
We are located literally ten metres from Brunswick Street in Fitzroy, Melbourne.
We try to offer a flexible, casual and salesperson-free environment.

Please send all resumes or questions to jobs at n6.com.au

';

if ($self->job_match($job_ad))
{
    use Mail::Sender;
    my $sender = Mail::Sender->new({smtp    => 'localhost',
                                    from    => $my_email_addr,
                                    subject => "my resume",
                                    to      => 'jobs at n6.com.au'});
    $sender->MailFile({msg => "my resume", file => "resume.pdf"});
}

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