From piers at ompa.net Sat May 4 05:30:37 2002 From: piers at ompa.net (Piers Harding) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Anybody going to OSCON? Message-ID: <20020504113037.A31745@gnu> Hi, I was wondering if any one is going to OSCON ( http://conferences.oreilly.com ), this July? I am attending, and it would be great to catch up with other PM'ers at that time. Cheers. From pjf at perltraining.com.au Sat May 4 20:15:17 2002 From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Meeting this Wednesday! Message-ID: <20020505111517.C12592@mukc.org.au> G'day Everyone, Just a quick reminder that the next Melb.PM meeting is this Wednesday, 8th of May. Our illustrious (tentative) speakers are (in no particular order). * "All About Expect", by Simon Taylor. * "Device::ParallelPort", by Scott Penrose. * "Transaction tricks with DBI", by Paul Fenwick. * "Time::ZoneInfo", by Scott Penrose. For those of you who have never been to a Melb.PM meeting before: Time: 6:30pm, 8th May 2002 Place: Level 8 myinternet House 14 Blackwood St North Melbourne I look forward to seeing you all there, Paul -- Paul Fenwick | http://perltraining.com.au/ Director of Training | Ph: +61 3 9354 6001 Perl Training Australia | Fax: +61 3 9354 2681 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/melbourne-pm/attachments/20020505/c4686714/attachment.bin From damian at conway.org Sat May 4 20:36:33 2002 From: damian at conway.org (Damian Conway) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Anybody going to OSCON? References: <20020504113037.A31745@gnu> Message-ID: <3CD48C9D.D4EE83F0@conway.org> Piers Harding wrote: > I was wondering if any one is going to OSCON ( > http://conferences.oreilly.com ), this July? I am attending, and it > would be great to catch up with other PM'ers at that time. I'll probably be there. ;-) Damian From piers at ompa.net Sun May 5 05:13:20 2002 From: piers at ompa.net (Piers Harding) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Anybody going to OSCON? In-Reply-To: <3CD48C9D.D4EE83F0@conway.org>; from damian@conway.org on Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:36:33AM +1000 References: <20020504113037.A31745@gnu> <3CD48C9D.D4EE83F0@conway.org> Message-ID: <20020505111320.A16068@gnu> Hehe - I know you'll be their - I'm sure I'll be sitting in one of your classes :-) I was hoping that we might be able to have an impromptu .pm meeting for people that live overseas - it would be great to meet some of the people back in Oz, if anyone is interested? Cheers. On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:36:33AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote: > Piers Harding wrote: > > > I was wondering if any one is going to OSCON ( > > http://conferences.oreilly.com ), this July? I am attending, and it > > would be great to catch up with other PM'ers at that time. > > I'll probably be there. ;-) > > Damian From piers at ompa.net Sun May 5 05:13:20 2002 From: piers at ompa.net (Piers Harding) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Anybody going to OSCON? In-Reply-To: <3CD48C9D.D4EE83F0@conway.org>; from damian@conway.org on Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:36:33AM +1000 References: <20020504113037.A31745@gnu> <3CD48C9D.D4EE83F0@conway.org> Message-ID: <20020505111320.A16068@gnu> Hehe - I know you'll be their - I'm sure I'll be sitting in one of your classes :-) I was hoping that we might be able to have an impromptu .pm meeting for people that live overseas - it would be great to meet some of the people back in Oz, if anyone is interested? Cheers. On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:36:33AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote: > Piers Harding wrote: > > > I was wondering if any one is going to OSCON ( > > http://conferences.oreilly.com ), this July? I am attending, and it > > would be great to catch up with other PM'ers at that time. > > I'll probably be there. ;-) > > Damian From piers at ompa.net Sun May 5 05:13:20 2002 From: piers at ompa.net (Piers Harding) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Anybody going to OSCON? In-Reply-To: <3CD48C9D.D4EE83F0@conway.org>; from damian@conway.org on Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:36:33AM +1000 References: <20020504113037.A31745@gnu> <3CD48C9D.D4EE83F0@conway.org> Message-ID: <20020505111320.A16068@gnu> Hehe - I know you'll be their - I'm sure I'll be sitting in one of your classes :-) I was hoping that we might be able to have an impromptu .pm meeting for people that live overseas - it would be great to meet some of the people back in Oz, if anyone is interested? Cheers. On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:36:33AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote: > Piers Harding wrote: > > > I was wondering if any one is going to OSCON ( > > http://conferences.oreilly.com ), this July? I am attending, and it > > would be great to catch up with other PM'ers at that time. > > I'll probably be there. ;-) > > Damian From newsletters at the-financial-news.com Sun May 5 16:07:22 2002 From: newsletters at the-financial-news.com (The Financial News) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Production Mini-plants in mobile containers. Co-investment Program Message-ID: The Financial News, May 2002 Production Mini-plants in mobile containers. Co-investment Program "...Science Network will supply to countries and developing regions the technology and the necessary support for the production in series of Mini-plants in mobile containers (40-foot). The Mini-plant system is designed in such a way that all the production machinery is fixed on the platform of the container, with all wiring, piping, and installation parts; that is to say, they are fully equipped... and the mini-plant is ready for production." More than 700 portable production systems: Bakeries, Steel Nails, Welding Electrodes, Tire Retreading, Reinforcement Bar Bending for Construction Framework, Sheeting for Roofing, Ceilings and Fa?ades, Plated Drums, Aluminum Buckets, Injected Polypropylene Housewares, Pressed Melamine Items (Glasses, Cups, Plates, Mugs, etc.), Mufflers, Construction Electrically Welded Mesh, Plastic Bags and Packaging, Mobile units of medical assistance, Sanitary Material, Hypodermic Syringes, Hemostatic Clamps, etc. Science Network has started a process of Co-investment for the installation of small Assembly plants to manufacture in series the Mini-plants of portable production on the site, region or country where they may be required. One of the most relevant features is the fact that these plants will be connected to the World Trade System (WTS) with access to more than 50 million raw materials, products and services and automatic transactions for world trade. Because of financial reasons, involving cost and social impact, the right thing to do is to set up assembly plants in the same countries and regions, using local resources (labor, some equipment, etc.) For more information: Mini-plants in mobile containers By Steven P. Leibacher, The Financial News, Editor Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles. Programa de Co-inversion "...Science Network suministrara a paises y regiones en vias de desarrollo la tecnologia y el apoyo necesario para la fabricacion en serie de Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles (40-foot). El sistema de mini-plantas esta dise?ado de forma que todas las maquinas de produccion van instaladas fijas sobre la propia plataforma del contenedor, con el cableado, tuberias e instalaciones; es decir, completamente equipadas... y a partir de ese momento est?n listas para producir." Mas de 700 sistemas de produccion portatil: Panaderias, Producci?n de clavos de acero, Electrodos para soldadura, Recauchutado de neumaticos, Curvado de hierro para armaduras de construccion, Lamina perfilada para cubiertas, techos y cerramientos de fachada, Bidones de chapa, Cubos de aluminio, Menaje de polipropileno inyectado, Piezas de melamina prensada (vasos, platos, tazas, cafeteras, etc.) Silenciadores para vehiculos, Malla electrosoldada para la construccion, Bolsas y envases de plastico, Unidades moviles de asistencia medica, Material sanitario (jeringas hipodermicas, Pinzas hemostaticas, etc.) Science Network ha puesto en marcha un proceso de Co-inversion para la instalacion de peque?as Plantas ensambladoras para fabricar en serie las Mini-plantas de produccion portatil, en el lugar, region o pais que lo necesite. Una de las caracter?sticas relevantes es el hecho de que dichas plantas quedaran conectadas al Sistema del Comercio Mundial (WTS) con acceso a mas de 50 millones de mercancias, materia primas, productos, servicios y las operaciones automaticas de comercio internacional. Resulta obvio que por razones economicas, de costes y de impacto social, lo apropiado es instalar plantas ensambladoras en los mismos paises y regiones asi como utilizar los recursos locales (mano de obra, ciertos equipamientos, etc.) Para recibir mas infromacion: Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles Steven P. Leibacher, The Financial News, Editor ------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you received this in error or would like to be removed from our list, please return us indicating: remove or un-subscribe in 'subject' field, Thanks. Editor ? 2002 The Financial News. All rights reserved. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/melbourne-pm/attachments/20020505/02e50133/attachment.htm From scottp at dd.com.au Sun May 5 17:30:27 2002 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: NEW MODULE: Device::ParallelPort Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey Guys If anyone writes a new module in Melbourne PM they should definitely announce it to this list, I know I will be interested. I have finally completed Device::ParallelPort. It is uploaded onto CPAN along with a number of options. Device::ParallelPort - API to do low level control of parallel ports Includes script driver, dummy drivers and an example Printer device. Device::ParallelPort::drv::linux - Direct IO access to i386 ISA style parallel ports on linux Requires Root Access Device::ParallelPort::drv::parport - /dev/parport access to linux parallel port (preferred method). Device::ParallelPort::JayCar - Currently one (more to come) of the JayCar controller boards To come soon (partially worked on but not complete) Device::ParallelPort::drv::win32 - Windows 32 access via a free DLL Device::ParallelPort::drv::FreeBSD - Free BSD (current remember the interface name) driver. I am also keen on adding other devices, so if anyone has any parallel attached non-kernel driver devices that they want control over with perl, let me know. I am also keen on doing a MacOSX version using the many USB Parallel Cables, but I don't even know where to start. Scott - --- Scott Penrose Digital Dimensions http://www.dd.com.au/ scottp@dd.com.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (Darwin) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE81bKPDCFCcmAm26YRAup1AJ9EMvBkcQBWLocTOrlonc1Ux+9fxgCfUx6A Lp6qjoxiuL9rGXL8eAGbtOo= =w8O5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From simon at unisolve.com.au Sun May 5 18:19:54 2002 From: simon at unisolve.com.au (Simon Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Meeting this Wednesday! In-Reply-To: <20020505111517.C12592@mukc.org.au> References: <20020505111517.C12592@mukc.org.au> Message-ID: <200205060919.55447.simon@unisolve.com.au> On Sun, 5 May 2002 11:15, Paul Fenwick wrote: > G'day Everyone, > > Just a quick reminder that the next Melb.PM meeting is > this Wednesday, 8th of May. Our illustrious (tentative) speakers are > (in no particular order). > > * "All About Expect", by Simon Taylor. Just a note for the curious, this will be a talk about Expect.pm, and not the tcl-based tool of the same name. ;-) Regards, Simon Taylor -- Unisolve Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia +61 3 9568 2005 From scottp at dd.com.au Mon May 6 09:13:22 2002 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: NEW MODULE: Sys::Hostname::Long Message-ID: <6C277496-60FB-11D6-915D-003065B58CF8@dd.com.au> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey there... I have uploaded my Sys::Hostname::Long module. This returns the long hostname of your local machine. There are however issues with it. 1) It should not exist, it should be part of Sys::Hostname, and once it works ok that will be my proposal. 2) It is far from complete, I have done a quick test on a few machines. I am looking for additions from anyone I can :-) 3) This module is nothing - I mean really hardly anything. It is simply a set of possible methods for determining a long host name. But rather than developers including all alternatives in their code it is here - in one place. 4) Like the original version (and still current fall back version) of Sys::Hostname it depends on calling external code, which is to say the least - dangerous - not counting slow and unreliable. Hmmmm... has that put off anyone downloading it :-) Scott - --- Scott Penrose Open source and Linux Developer http://linux.dd.com.au/ scottp@dd.com.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (Darwin) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE81o+IDCFCcmAm26YRAvN8AJ92zPxXjJfHqFbJwe6PqC0MyRoTSACdEPdk oEF9zkS95SQk4mQUL22Odvw= =WjnO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rob at cowsnet.com.au Mon May 6 22:59:36 2002 From: rob at cowsnet.com.au (Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: NEW MODULE: Sys::Hostname::Long In-Reply-To: <6C277496-60FB-11D6-915D-003065B58CF8@dd.com.au> Message-ID: <001301c1f57b$9e372080$36662fcb@cowsnetw2kp> G'Day Scott, I had a quick look at this and had a bit of a chuckle - You were right about there not being a lot of code with this module ... It's pretty short and to the point. I was wondering if it would be worth incorporate localised signal trapping similar to that of Sys::Hostname would be worthwhile - particularly for those platforms out there that don't have a hostname external function (although none immediately come to mind, Windows 95 perhaps?) ... BTW Scott, very nice idea to start announcing module uploads to the list - It should help all of us here in Melbourne.pm get a better idea as to what others in our group are up to. I'm hoping to make an update to CGI::Upload later today - I'll announce the changes to the list when I've had a chance to do so. Cheers, Rob Rob Casey Business Manager, Senior IT Consultant Cowsnet Internet and Professional Services http://www.cowsnet.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-melbourne-pm@pm.org > [mailto:owner-melbourne-pm@pm.org] On Behalf Of Scott Penrose > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:13 AM > To: melbourne-pm@pm.org > Subject: NEW MODULE: Sys::Hostname::Long > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey there... > > I have uploaded my Sys::Hostname::Long module. > > This returns the long hostname of your local machine. There > are however > issues with it. > > 1) It should not exist, it should be part of Sys::Hostname, > and once it > works ok that will be my proposal. > > 2) It is far from complete, I have done a quick test on a few > machines. > I am looking for additions from anyone I can :-) > > 3) This module is nothing - I mean really hardly anything. It > is simply > a set of possible methods for determining a long host name. > But rather > than developers including all alternatives in their code it > is here - in > one place. > > 4) Like the original version (and still current fall back version) of > Sys::Hostname it depends on calling external code, which is > to say the > least - dangerous - not counting slow and unreliable. > > Hmmmm... has that put off anyone downloading it :-) > > Scott > - --- > Scott Penrose > Open source and Linux Developer > http://linux.dd.com.au/ > scottp@dd.com.au > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (Darwin) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE81o+IDCFCcmAm26YRAvN8AJ92zPxXjJfHqFbJwe6PqC0MyRoTSACdEPdk > oEF9zkS95SQk4mQUL22Odvw= > =WjnO > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From scottp at dd.com.au Mon May 6 23:55:46 2002 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: NEW MODULE: Sys::Hostname::Long In-Reply-To: <001301c1f57b$9e372080$36662fcb@cowsnetw2kp> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, May 7, 2002, at 01:59 , Rob wrote: > G'Day Scott, > > I had a quick look at this and had a bit of a chuckle - You were right > about there not being a lot of code with this module ... It's pretty > short and to the point. I was wondering if it would be worth > incorporate localised signal trapping similar to that of Sys::Hostname > would be worthwhile - particularly for those platforms out there that > don't have a hostname external function (although none immediately come > to mind, Windows 95 perhaps?) .. ABSOLUTELY. The current version is the 5 minute hack :-) I will have a look at the Sys::Hostname code again and do a little protection. Note that the newer versions of Sys::Hostname use networking methods to get the hostname. I am kind of hoping that someone will point out I can do something similar for fully qualified domain name. > BTW Scott, very nice idea to start announcing module uploads to the list > - It should help all of us here in Melbourne.pm get a better idea as to > what others in our group are up to. I'm hoping to make an update to > CGI::Upload later today - I'll announce the changes to the list when > I've had a chance to do so. Ta. Yes really I did it because I want to hear what everyone else is doing :-) Scott > Cheers, > Rob - --- Scott Penrose Software Architect - Developer http://www.myinternet.com.au/ scottp@myinternet.com.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (Darwin) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8115WDCFCcmAm26YRAqeuAJ0TZ62GGWnjNgiZXgGq6XaT/EFjuACgmlOB wSxbP+R1j8TK1xMjIzvgg7s= =EBEl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rob at cowsnet.com.au Tue May 7 00:25:17 2002 From: rob at cowsnet.com.au (Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: NEW MODULE: Sys::Hostname::Long In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001701c1f587$95632f60$36662fcb@cowsnetw2kp> G'Day Scott, > ABSOLUTELY. The current version is the 5 minute hack :-) I > will have a > look at the Sys::Hostname code again and do a little protection. Note > that the newer versions of Sys::Hostname use networking > methods to get > the hostname. I am kind of hoping that someone will point out > I can do > something similar for fully qualified domain name. I just did a bit of digging as I remembered writing something about this on perlmonks - The module which you want to look at I think is Net::Domain. It turns out that this module includes a method for returning the fully-qualified domain name for a host in a much more determined fashion than Sys::Hostname. Another method again would be to attempt to establish a UDP connection to an outside world host and perform a domain lookup on the local IP address of that connection ... This approach however may be somewhat of an overkill. Regards, Rob Rob Casey Business Manager, Senior IT Consultant Cowsnet Internet and Professional Services http://www.cowsnet.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Penrose [mailto:scottp@dd.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 2:56 PM > To: rob@cowsnet.com.au > Cc: melbourne-pm@pm.org > Subject: Re: NEW MODULE: Sys::Hostname::Long > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On Tuesday, May 7, 2002, at 01:59 , Rob wrote: > > > G'Day Scott, > > > > I had a quick look at this and had a bit of a chuckle - You > were right > > about there not being a lot of code with this module ... It's pretty > > short and to the point. I was wondering if it would be worth > > incorporate localised signal trapping similar to that of > Sys::Hostname > > would be worthwhile - particularly for those platforms out > there that > > don't have a hostname external function (although none > immediately come > > to mind, Windows 95 perhaps?) .. > > ABSOLUTELY. The current version is the 5 minute hack :-) I > will have a > look at the Sys::Hostname code again and do a little protection. Note > that the newer versions of Sys::Hostname use networking > methods to get > the hostname. I am kind of hoping that someone will point out > I can do > something similar for fully qualified domain name. > > > BTW Scott, very nice idea to start announcing module > uploads to the list > > - It should help all of us here in Melbourne.pm get a > better idea as to > > what others in our group are up to. I'm hoping to make an update to > > CGI::Upload later today - I'll announce the changes to the list when > > I've had a chance to do so. > > Ta. Yes really I did it because I want to hear what everyone else is > doing :-) > > Scott > > > Cheers, > > Rob > - --- > Scott Penrose > Software Architect - Developer > http://www.myinternet.com.au/ > scottp@myinternet.com.au > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (Darwin) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE8115WDCFCcmAm26YRAqeuAJ0TZ62GGWnjNgiZXgGq6XaT/EFjuACgmlOB > wSxbP+R1j8TK1xMjIzvgg7s= > =EBEl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From §AĴO§_¤ Tue May 7 18:13:34 2002 From: §AĴO§_¤ (§AĴO§_¤) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: =?big5?Q?=A7A=ACO=A7_=A4]=A6=B3=A4=DF=B7Q=A7=EF=C5=DC?= Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From scottp at dd.com.au Fri May 10 17:09:13 2002 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: GPG Access Message-ID: <8F97F0E9-6462-11D6-9A79-003065B58CF8@dd.com.au> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 There are two CPAN modules for GnuPG access GPG and Crypt::GPG They look fairly similar I was wondering if anyone had any feedback on either of them. I think without any feedback I will use Crypt::GPG if for no other reason than it was updated last year, where as GPG was 2000. Scott - --- Scott Penrose Digital Dimensions http://www.dd.com.au/ scottp@dd.com.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (Darwin) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE83EUODCFCcmAm26YRAhevAJ9eJ5DDapSlJl02OI72DG+iQ6FOlwCfQ6lf eiM/qFLtmIxjVao2wPXipn8= =AIOT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scottp at dd.com.au Fri May 10 17:40:42 2002 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: How to set an Architecture or Operating System Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey Dudes, I have a single perl module that will only ever run on Linux i386 for both hardware and operating system reasons. Another runs on any linux >= 2.4 kernels. When you upload modules to CPAN they go on to a test list where they get tested on many platforms. The problem is that I am going to get lots and lots of failures unless I can mark them as only one platform. Does anyone know how this is achieved ? Scott - --- Scott Penrose Software Architect - Developer http://www.myinternet.com.au/ scottp@myinternet.com.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (Darwin) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE83ExwDCFCcmAm26YRAlvSAJ9dysMh0wdOD1t4l+DcPkQ0dq0PWgCggjii 8lIxq9kVV5pFoQiqaymzxco= =S0yL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gcross at alphalink.com.au Sun May 12 08:45:43 2002 From: gcross at alphalink.com.au (Graeme Cross) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Fwd: This month's LUV Programmers SIG meeting Message-ID: <200205121345.g4CDjao07362@mail2.alphalink.com.au> At last week's PM meeting, Scott mentioned that this month's LUV Programmers SIG meeting was going to be a hands-on session with XP. A number of people were interested in more information, so here is the preliminary announcement. If you would like more details, join the SIG mailing list (the SIG page URL is at the bottom of this e-mail) or contact Scott or myself. Cheers Graeme ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: This month's Programmers SIG meeting Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 23:23:47 +1000 From: Graeme Cross To: LUV Programmers SIG The next LUV Programmers SIG meeting is on Tuesday May 28. The meeting will be a hands-on introduction to XP (Extreme Programming). Extreme Programming (XP) is one of the newer agile methodologies for software development and has proven to be both very popular and very controversial. You can find more information on XP at a number of web sites including: http://www.extremeprogramming.org/ and http://www.xprogramming.com/ We are going to use XP to write an application (or two) for LUV, including a web-based membership database application. There will be more information posted to the mailing list over the next two weeks organising the details. Everyone is welcome to the meeting, which is at: 7pm, Tuesday May 28 MyInternet Level 8, Blackwood House 14-20 Blackwood Street, North Melbourne Blackwood Street is the first on the left on Flemington Road, near the Royal Melbourne Hospital. We will be going for dinner afterwards at La Porchetta near the Queen Victoria market. The planned talks for upcoming Programmers SIG meetings are: Jun 25: To be confirmed -- possibly a continuation of the XP session Jul 23: "Using Python to produce business documents, barcodes and PDF files", John Leach Aug 27: "Hacking GUIs with Ruby", Graeme Cross More SIG information can be found at http://programmers.luv.asn.au/ -- Graeme Cross ------------------------------------------------------- From pjf at perltraining.com.au Mon May 13 22:10:32 2002 From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: [ask@perl.org: Re: Larry's State of the Onion slides] Message-ID: <20020514131032.G29633@mukc.org.au> Skipped content of type multipart/mixed-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/melbourne-pm/attachments/20020514/b89a50e7/attachment.bin From newsletters at the-financial-news.com Fri May 17 11:19:08 2002 From: newsletters at the-financial-news.com (The Financial News) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Production Mini-plants in mobile containers. Co-investment Program Message-ID: The Financial News, May 2002 Production Mini-plants in mobile containers. Co-investment Program "...Science Network will supply to countries and developing regions the technology and the necessary support for the production in series of Mini-plants in mobile containers (40-foot). The Mini-plant system is designed in such a way that all the production machinery is fixed on the platform of the container, with all wiring, piping, and installation parts; that is to say, they are fully equipped... and the mini-plant is ready for production." More than 700 portable production systems: Bakeries, Steel Nails, Welding Electrodes, Tire Retreading, Reinforcement Bar Bending for Construction Framework, Sheeting for Roofing, Ceilings and Fa?ades, Plated Drums, Aluminum Buckets, Injected Polypropylene Housewares, Pressed Melamine Items (Glasses, Cups, Plates, Mugs, etc.), Mufflers, Construction Electrically Welded Mesh, Plastic Bags and Packaging, Mobile units of medical assistance, Sanitary Material, Hypodermic Syringes, Hemostatic Clamps, etc. Science Network has started a process of Co-investment for the installation of small Assembly plants to manufacture in series the Mini-plants of portable production on the site, region or country where they may be required. One of the most relevant features is the fact that these plants will be connected to the World Trade System (WTS) with access to more than 50 million raw materials, products and services and automatic transactions for world trade. Because of financial reasons, involving cost and social impact, the right thing to do is to set up assembly plants in the same countries and regions, using local resources (labor, some equipment, etc.) For more information: Mini-plants in mobile containers By Steven P. Leibacher, The Financial News, Editor Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles. Programa de Co-inversion "...Science Network suministrara a paises y regiones en vias de desarrollo la tecnologia y el apoyo necesario para la fabricacion en serie de Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles (40-foot). El sistema de mini-plantas esta dise?ado de forma que todas las maquinas de produccion van instaladas fijas sobre la propia plataforma del contenedor, con el cableado, tuberias e instalaciones; es decir, completamente equipadas... y a partir de ese momento est?n listas para producir." Mas de 700 sistemas de produccion portatil: Panaderias, Producci?n de clavos de acero, Electrodos para soldadura, Recauchutado de neumaticos, Curvado de hierro para armaduras de construccion, Lamina perfilada para cubiertas, techos y cerramientos de fachada, Bidones de chapa, Cubos de aluminio, Menaje de polipropileno inyectado, Piezas de melamina prensada (vasos, platos, tazas, cafeteras, etc.) Silenciadores para vehiculos, Malla electrosoldada para la construccion, Bolsas y envases de plastico, Unidades moviles de asistencia medica, Material sanitario (jeringas hipodermicas, Pinzas hemostaticas, etc.) Science Network ha puesto en marcha un proceso de Co-inversion para la instalacion de peque?as Plantas ensambladoras para fabricar en serie las Mini-plantas de produccion portatil, en el lugar, region o pais que lo necesite. Una de las caracter?sticas relevantes es el hecho de que dichas plantas quedaran conectadas al Sistema del Comercio Mundial (WTS) con acceso a mas de 50 millones de mercancias, materia primas, productos, servicios y las operaciones automaticas de comercio internacional. Resulta obvio que por razones economicas, de costes y de impacto social, lo apropiado es instalar plantas ensambladoras en los mismos paises y regiones asi como utilizar los recursos locales (mano de obra, ciertos equipamientos, etc.) Para recibir mas infromacion: Mini-plantas de produccion en contenedores moviles Steven P. Leibacher, The Financial News, Editor ------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you received this in error or would like to be removed from our list, please return us indicating: remove or un-subscribe in 'subject' field, Thanks. Editor ? 2002 The Financial News. All rights reserved. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/melbourne-pm/attachments/20020517/1f2d9d30/attachment.htm From scottp at dd.com.au Fri May 17 22:35:01 2002 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: SSH, FTP, HTTP, etc all from one Message-ID: <3C0D09BE-6A10-11D6-A1AF-003065B58CF8@dd.com.au> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey Dudes, I often find a need to have a single URL that is used to download files. Think like wget you can type things like wget http://user:password@host/directory/file.ext wget ftp://user:password@host/directory/file.ext Now add to that the ability to do things like wget ssh://user:password@host/directory/file.ext and I am sure there are more... eg: wget dbi://user:password@dsn/query or something inventive The thing is that parsing the URL and then turning it into either a get with LWP or an ftp query with Net::FTP or even Net::SSH::Perl is fine, but I don't want to have to re-implement it every time. Does anyone know of a product available for any of these generically ? I would prefer to separate out the url from login and password Something like... use MyGet; use IO::File; my $f = new IO::File '> /tmp/outfile.$$'; my $g = MyGet->new(); $g->user($user); $g->passwd($passwd); $g->url($url) $g->get($f); Is LWP the right place to start? Many years ago now I wrote 'fcp'. Literally it is equiv to 'rcp' and 'scp' but for FTP files. Meaning I can basically do: fcp *.html scottp@linux.dd.com.au:/tmp/ and it uploads the file. Thus I could download and upload, and do things like: fcp scottp@linux.dd.com.au:/tmp/*.html scottp@melbourne.pm.org:/tmp/ Things like that - but it was REALLY hard to not only parse the URL correctly but also work out exactly the things like recursive directories etc. wget is great, but it is download only and only ftp and http. Any ideas? Do you find that you do this alot yourself ? Scott - --- Scott Penrose Open source and Linux Developer http://linux.dd.com.au/ scottp@dd.com.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (Darwin) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE85cvtDCFCcmAm26YRAgfJAJ9+378oFO1stRlvjQmqyNTSXiHG/ACbBQXU anEIII43qfIY7igVdFPOO6s= =s09t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jhoward at fastmail.fm Fri May 17 23:49:54 2002 From: jhoward at fastmail.fm (Jeremy Howard) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: SSH, FTP, HTTP, etc all from one References: <3C0D09BE-6A10-11D6-A1AF-003065B58CF8@dd.com.au> Message-ID: <3CE5DD72.1030505@fastmail.fm> Scott Penrose wrote: > The thing is that parsing the URL and then turning it into either a > get with LWP or an ftp query with Net::FTP or even Net::SSH::Perl is > fine, but I don't want to have to re-implement it every time. Does > anyone know of a product available for any of these generically ? A good starting point might be http://curl.haxx.se/ , although SSH isn't supported. From scottp at dd.com.au Sat May 18 20:51:23 2002 From: scottp at dd.com.au (Scott Penrose) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Text and GUI Windowing toolkit Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know of a toolkit which can do both TEXT and GUI windows. I want something like Tk or GTK or similar that can also do it on terminals. The sort of things required are very simple - Lists - Check Boxes - Buttons - Text and Password input boxes But I really want to offer both text and windows interfaces. If I had my way it would also offer a HTML/CGI interface then The Circle would be Complete, When I Left You I Was But The Learner Now I Am The Master. Scott - --- Scott Penrose Digital Dimensions http://www.dd.com.au/ scottp@dd.com.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (Darwin) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE85wUgDCFCcmAm26YRAmsQAJwNlYO3kxSJhXLNt8YyP7tlfaFfMACfYp9A IjioqXEt6f4fq4UBLo424EM= =7YDG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gcross at alphalink.com.au Mon May 27 06:58:00 2002 From: gcross at alphalink.com.au (Graeme Cross) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:34 2004 Subject: Fwd: Useful chapter from the new "Perl in a nutshell" Message-ID: <200205271158.g4RBvx114724@mail2.alphalink.com.au> There is a new edition of "Perl in a nutshell" out and O'Reilly have made available a good sample chapter (as a PDF). The chapter is "a quick and merciless guide to the Perl language" and is a fairly useful summary/quick reference. > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Reilly Newsletter [mailto:elists-admin@oreillynet.com] > Sent: Saturday, 25 May 2002 7:59 AM > To: oreilly@paprika.oreillynet.com > Subject: oreilly.com -- What's New > > ************************************************** > What's New on oreilly.com--May 24, 2002 > ************************************************** > > Perl in a Nutshell, 2nd Edition > Chapter 4: The Perl Language > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlnut2/chapter/ch04.pdf - Graeme -- Graeme Cross