[LA.pm] Losangeles-pm Digest, Vol 65, Issue 6 [Gordon Biersch]

Thu May 14 16:14:29 PDT 2009

Long time lurker on the list finally chiming in here. Glad to see some
activity on the list, it's been quiet for too long...

Welcome to Los Angeles, Jordan! Thanks for taking the initiative to
plan a get-together.

I'm in for 7 tonight at Gordon Biersch, I look forward to meeting some
fellow Perl hackers!

P.S. Andy, a pleasant surprise to see you on this list. I remember
interviewing with you back in 2004 for a job at Follett. Are you in LA
now?

Cheers,

-Troy-

Troy Conrad
Macfinity Consulting

818-584-8889 Tel
818-584-8883 Fax
www.macfinity.com

> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 01:36:16 -0700
> From: Ask Bj?rn Hansen <ask at develooper.com>
> Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Burbank?
> To: Jordan Coleman <jordan at jordancoleman.com>
> Cc: Los Angeles Perl Mongers <losangeles-pm at pm.org>
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> On May 12, 2009, at 11:06, Jordan Coleman wrote:
>
>> On May 12, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Jonathan Brown wrote:
>>
>>> Thursday at 7 works for me.
>>
>> Okay, so it sounds like a few people can make it for Thursday at
>> 7:00.  Excellent.  Here's the location:  http://tinyurl.com/gbburbank
>
> Here's a URL with a map.  :-)
>
>        http://www.yellowbot.com/gordon-biersch-burbank-ca.html
>
>
>  - Ask (the yellowbot office is half a block away, but I'm probably
> not able to make it Thursday; next time!)
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:04:23 -0700
> From: pete <p at chudpi.org>
> Subject: [LA.pm] Meetings - general thoughts.
> To: Los Angeles Perl Mongers <losangeles-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
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> On a general note, it seems that there is plenty of interest in
> meeting, we're just not too great at organization.
>
> One way this can be ameliorated - as my old PM group MadMongers in
> Madison, WI did - is to set a recurring meeting in a predefined
> location.  For example, "the LA.pm meetings are first and third
> Thursday at 7:00PM in the [pub] in [address/map link/gps coords]."
> Whoever shows up, shows up and geeks out.  If a meeting gets moved due
> to a special guest speaker or event, the organizer of said event posts
> a notification on  the list and the pm page.
>
> This way the organization becomes, for the most part, automated with
> the exception of special events, which generally already have
> organizers perfectly willing to carry the burden of leadership limited
> to the scope of said event.
>
> It works well for for MadMongers, who meet regularly even in cases of
> the absence of clearly defined leadership.  A few people met, good
> conversation happened, moved to the list, bringing it to life and
> spreading interest of the topic to the mongers that didn't attend the
> meeting, incenticised those mongers to make it to the next meeting
> ....  it can be a catalyst.
>
> I suggest that we stick to the location of this next meeting, as there
> is already sufficient consensus that it works for enough people for at
> least one meeting. We'll see how well it works and go from there.
>
> Just a thought.
> Cheers :-)
> Pete.
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Ask Bj?rn Hansen <ask at develooper.com> wrote:
>> On May 12, 2009, at 11:06, Jordan Coleman wrote:
>>
>>> On May 12, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Jonathan Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thursday at 7 works for me.
>>>
>>> Okay, so it sounds like a few people can make it for Thursday at 7:00.
>>> ?Excellent. ?Here's the location: ?http://tinyurl.com/gbburbank
>>
>> Here's a URL with a map. ?:-)
>>
>> ? ? ? ?http://www.yellowbot.com/gordon-biersch-burbank-ca.html
>>
>>
>> ?- Ask (the yellowbot office is half a block away, but I'm probably not able
>> to make it Thursday; next time!)
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:06:53 -0500
> From: Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com>
> Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Meetings - general thoughts.
> To: pete <p at chudpi.org>
> Cc: Los Angeles Perl Mongers <losangeles-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID: <04622A94-075C-4125-A9A0-6A945B2D75DE at petdance.com>
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> On May 14, 2009, at 12:04 PM, pete wrote:
>
>>
>> One way this can be ameliorated - as my old PM group MadMongers in
>> Madison, WI did - is to set a recurring meeting in a predefined
>
>
> Agreed.  The #1 way to get people to not come is to have them ask "Is
> there a meeting this month?"  Make the meetings happen, no matter
> what, every month.  Yes, they'll conflict with someone's bowling
> night, but too bad.
>
> xoxo,
> Andy
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:56:53 -0700
> From: Ben Tilly <btilly at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Meetings - general thoughts.
> To: pete <p at chudpi.org>
> Cc: Los Angeles Perl Mongers <losangeles-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <acc274b30905141056se1f5503vd5c199f50fa4013d at mail.gmail.com>
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> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM, pete <p at chudpi.org> wrote:
>> On a general note, it seems that there is plenty of interest in
>> meeting, we're just not too great at organization.
>>
>> One way this can be ameliorated - as my old PM group MadMongers in
>> Madison, WI did - is to set a recurring meeting in a predefined
>> location. ?For example, "the LA.pm meetings are first and third
>> Thursday at 7:00PM in the [pub] in [address/map link/gps coords]."
>> Whoever shows up, shows up and geeks out. ?If a meeting gets moved due
>> to a special guest speaker or event, the organizer of said event posts
>> a notification on ?the list and the pm page.
>>
>> This way the organization becomes, for the most part, automated with
>> the exception of special events, which generally already have
>> organizers perfectly willing to carry the burden of leadership limited
>> to the scope of said event.
>>
>> It works well for for MadMongers, who meet regularly even in cases of
>> the absence of clearly defined leadership. ?A few people met, good
>> conversation happened, moved to the list, bringing it to life and
>> spreading interest of the topic to the mongers that didn't attend the
>> meeting, incenticised those mongers to make it to the next meeting
>> .... ?it can be a catalyst.
>
> In general I agree with you.  However the significant issue this group
> in particular faces is how long it takes to get from point A to point
> B around dinner time.  This is sufficiently difficult that it makes
> sense to have a more frequent meeting that rotates around between
> Santa Monica, Burbank, downtown and Pasadena.
>
> To some extent that informally happens already.  For instance there is
> a regular Santa Monica lunch meeting (http://www.thursdaylunch.com/)
> that nobody else knows about or attends.  I wouldn't be surprised to
> find out that there are more options out there.
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:01:49 -0700
> From: David Fetter <david at fetter.org>
> Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Meetings - general thoughts.
> To: losangeles-pm at pm.org
> Message-ID: <20090514180149.GC6244 at fetter.org>
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> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:56:53AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote:
>> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM, pete <p at chudpi.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > One way this can be ameliorated - as my old PM group MadMongers in
>> > Madison, WI did - is to set a recurring meeting in a predefined
>> > location. ?For example, "the LA.pm meetings are first and third
>> > Thursday at 7:00PM in the [pub] in [address/map link/gps coords]."
>> > Whoever shows up, shows up and geeks out. ?If a meeting gets moved
>> > due to a special guest speaker or event, the organizer of said
>> > event posts a notification on ?the list and the pm page.
>>
>> In general I agree with you.  However the significant issue this
>> group in particular faces is how long it takes to get from point A
>> to point B around dinner time.  This is sufficiently difficult that
>> it makes sense to have a more frequent meeting that rotates around
>> between Santa Monica, Burbank, downtown and Pasadena.
>
> It's fine to rotate the location, as we do for the other SFPUG (P for
> PostgreSQL.  Yay!) up in the SF Bay Area.  Having a set day and time
> helps a *lot*.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:19:14 -0700
> From: Miguel Hernandez <migtek at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Meetings - general thoughts.
> To: losangeles-pm at pm.org
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> The Thursday Lunch is a GREAT idea that Eric Hammond put together. While
> I?ve known about it for quite some time, I?ve just never been able to make
> it out there (but hope to change that soon). It?s not Perl-specific but
> definitely geek-oriented so I?m sure some Perlmeisters attend.
>
> Rotating the locations is a great idea, Ben! If we follow-up with that,
> might I suggest Phillippe?s for the downtown locale. The LAMP-SIG planning
> committee usually has its meetings there. They have big tables, free wifi &
> good food @ decent prices. The added benefit is that it?s right across the
> street from Union Station so has real easy access for folks using public
> transportation. I need to find a similar locale in Pasadena but have yet to
> find a spot w/the amenities that Phillippe?s provides.
>
> Another option would be to go the Lunch 2.0 route. While it?s a more
> informal gathering for networking, I like the model. Different companies
> host the event on Fridays, providing space & food. The benefit is obvious
> for said companies- maybe it?s a startup who needs exposure, or a
> well-established shop that?s hiring or a company with a new product or
> getting out of beta. Obviously, it would have to be Perl-specific so it
> might be more legwork but the side-benefits would be great. Finding out a
> company is a Perl shop in this manner would be great. Then again, it might
> have to start with the group coming up with a list of all the Perl shops we
> know about.
>
> Just tossing out ideas,
> --miguel
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