From naterajj at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 12:08:57 2007 From: naterajj at gmail.com (Juan Jose Natera) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:08:57 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Fwd: The Pittsburgh Perl Workshop 2007 is October 13-14, 2007. In-Reply-To: <470536BA.8010400@robertblackwell.com> References: <470536BA.8010400@robertblackwell.com> Message-ID: <349627440710041208v5edf14b4icd0adb6de62def43@mail.gmail.com> In case you didn't know and want to attend :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- The 2007 Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is only 10 days away. The Pittsburgh Perl Mongers are pleased to announce The PITTSBURGH PERL WORKSHOP, a two-day, low-cost conference on Saturday and Sunday, October 13-14, 2007. The Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is an annual conference dedicated to the Perl programming language. In 2006, the Pittsburgh Perl Mongers hosted the first Perl Workshop based in the United States. This year, the Workshop has been expanded to two days. The 2007 Workshop is structured as a series of short lectures, but the atmosphere is low key and engaging: the perfect combination to open your mind and then cram it full of good stuff. After last year's conference you gave us lots of feedback, and we listened. * The workshop was expanded to a two-day event to allow for more talks, birds-of-a-feather sessions, and social interactions. * A one-day course for programmers with little or no Perl experience?-taught by a world-class Perl trainer?-was added. * The schedule has been improved to allow you more flexibility in choosing sessions to attend. Lightning Talks There's still time to get a third of your fifteen minutes of fame! Submit your lightning talk today. The deadline for early acceptance is one week before the conference (October 6). But if you have an idea on the first day of the conference, we're holding at least two lightning talk spots until the end of that day. However, you have a much better chance of being accepted if submit your talk now. Stay up to date with everything that's going on with the Perl Workshop by subscribing to our RSS feed at http://pghpw.org/ppw2007/atom/en.xml. If you are coming to the Friday Social, RSVP at http://pghpw.org/ppw2007/wiki?node=Friday%20Social. Full details are on the Workshop Web site at http://pghpw.org. Hope to see you there. Robert Blackwell From naterajj at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 22:27:53 2007 From: naterajj at gmail.com (Juan Jose Natera) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:27:53 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Fwd: Job Opportunity at PriceGrabber.com! In-Reply-To: <017501c8061f$ea8cada0$310e6e3f@Internal.PriceGrabber.com> References: <017501c8061f$ea8cada0$310e6e3f@Internal.PriceGrabber.com> Message-ID: <349627440710052227u4f07ad70vd85ff511675751cf@mail.gmail.com> This was sent to our administrative list ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jennifer Maness Date: Oct 3, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: [Losangeles-pm-admins] Job Opportunity at PriceGrabber.com! If you enjoy the challenges of large scale and fast paced developments and love working with a dynamic and ambitious team, without the hassle of politics and red-tape, you have to check us out! We work in small teams within a Linux, Apache, and MySQL environment. Because we are growing, we are seeking a Sr. Software Engineer to help us develop quality innovative applications. Responsibilities: Collaborate on and contribute to a growing codebase of Search Marketing products and tools that serve to manage millions of dollars in revenue per month Come up with bleeding-edge solutions in a highly competitive and ever-evolving SEM landscape Define software architecture for the next generation of highly automated applications Have a "can-do" attitude and work closely with other bright engineers as well as a team of highly-motivated analysts and statisticians Required skills: Serious Perl skills; if these mean anything to you, you're on the right track: $|++ use Thread bless ($data, $class) %a = map {uc($_), 1} our @ISA = qw(Exporter) MySQL or other relevant RDBMS experience, preferably with exposure to optimizing queries for large-scale data sets Fluency in Linux or other *nix flavor (Visual programming? Not here!) 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From pablo at paeli.com Tue Oct 9 14:26:31 2007 From: pablo at paeli.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:26:31 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] telecommute job posting Message-ID: <200710091426.32015.pablo@paeli.com> I received this e-mail from a recruiter and am posting from them: Hello, I am a recruiter and would like to know the appropriate/proper method of making the following opportunity available to your members. I have the following OO Perl/Linux Administration contract (100% telecommute) position available. Do you have experience with both OO Perl for high volume/high performance web sites AND some Linux Administration? If so, please read the job description/requirements below carefully, send me an updated resume that details this necessary experience and then I will call you to tell you all about the company, position and team. ? OO Perl Developer Location: anywhere in U.S. (100% telecommuting) Rate: $40-50/hr (DOE) 1099 or Corp to Corp ? A new start up is looking for an OO Perl contractor that can also support some Linux servers. The company is in the business of credit card transaction processing, is fully funded and has a development staff of 5-6. The architecture and data model designs are complete and the initial OO Perl Development begun. The OO Perl developer will be responsible for the new development of a high volume credit card processing system from the ground up expected to handle 10K transactions/day. The OO Perl is currently developed and deployed on Debian Linux with MySQL (InnoDB) on the backend. The position also involves 24/7 Operations support of Linux servers. The position will approximately consist of 75% Perl Development and 25% Linux Administration This position is almost 100% telecommuting as once every 3-4 months the company will pay all expenses for meetings in Las Vegas. ? REQUIREMENTS MUST have 2+ yrs of OO Perl development on Linux for high volume applications and/or systems MUST have solid database skills (preferable MySQL) including the ability to design relational databases, interface OO Perl code with databases and SQL optimization of queries. Oracle is acceptable. MUST have some Linux System Administration experience Since this is a 100% telecommuting position, good over the phone communication skills mandatory. Plus: MySQL InnoDB mode OR MySQL (any mode) AND either Oracle, Postgres, or Informix Familiar with using ORM (Object Relational Mapping) Experinence using Subversion for Configuration Management Experience with Rose-DB-Object Any DBA skills is a plus but not necessary ? ? ? ? Thank You, ? Al Karaptian eQuest Solutions 310.937.3388 ? al at eQuestSolutions.com From naterajj at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 10:24:41 2007 From: naterajj at gmail.com (Juan Jose Natera) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:24:41 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] 2 positions available at iVenue.com Message-ID: <349627440710111024u7bf65345hb5d9cb918a27f574@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, The company I work for is looking for 2 developers, we have 2 spots open at the moment, we work with many current technologies including Catalyst and Rose::DB::Object. MySQL 5, jQuery (AJAX) and more. For full details please see the ad: http://jobs.perl.org/job/6913 If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Juan Natera From zrusilla at mac.com Mon Oct 22 10:48:20 2007 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:48:20 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] OT: Fires. Everyone OK? Message-ID: <230AE0B6-0115-1000-BB66-1F23C7728C6F-Webmail-10015@mac.com> Please check in. From btilly at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 11:16:49 2007 From: btilly at gmail.com (Ben Tilly) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:16:49 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] OT: Fires. Everyone OK? In-Reply-To: <230AE0B6-0115-1000-BB66-1F23C7728C6F-Webmail-10015@mac.com> References: <230AE0B6-0115-1000-BB66-1F23C7728C6F-Webmail-10015@mac.com> Message-ID: On 10/22/07, Elizabeth Cortell wrote: > Please check in. This is where it would be nice to have a google mashup of where everyone lives. People could then overlay that with the map of where the fires are and I wouldn't feel compelled to respond and say that I'm fine in Long Beach. :-) Ben From bbacker at yahoo.com Mon Oct 22 14:48:53 2007 From: bbacker at yahoo.com (Bryan Backer) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LA.pm] OT: Fires. Everyone OK? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <545352.28579.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> No smoke in Pasadena either (at least yet). Wasn't Ask posting photos of the last set of fires from his house in the hills? Of course, anybody evacuating probably isn't taking the time to read this list right at the moment... --- Ben Tilly wrote: > On 10/22/07, Elizabeth Cortell wrote: > > Please check in. > > This is where it would be nice to have a google mashup of where > everyone lives. People could then overlay that with the map of where > the fires are and I wouldn't feel compelled to respond and say that > I'm fine in Long Beach. :-) > > Ben > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > -- bbacker at mail.yahoo.com From ask at develooper.com Mon Oct 22 15:10:03 2007 From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:10:03 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] OT: Fires. Everyone OK? In-Reply-To: <545352.28579.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <545352.28579.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50A6D50E-14CA-418C-8C34-A4B7D8E15307@develooper.com> On Oct 22, 2007, at 14:48, Bryan Backer wrote: > No smoke in Pasadena either (at least yet). None in Hollywood either (or Burbank where I am today). > Wasn't Ask posting photos of the last set of fires > from his house in the hills? Yeah, in May. Looks like a friendly campfire compared to the one in San Diego now though... http://flickr.com/photos/ask/490879879/in/set-72157600193800344/ http://flickr.com/photos/ask/490855167/in/set-72157600193800344/ http://flickr.com/photos/ask/sets/72157600193800344/ Found this set from San Diego the last couple of days: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewmeyers/sets/72157602611052996/ - ask -- http://develooper.com/ - http://askask.com/ From ron at endpoint.com Mon Oct 22 15:05:55 2007 From: ron at endpoint.com (Ron Phipps) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:05:55 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] OT: Fires. Everyone OK? In-Reply-To: <230AE0B6-0115-1000-BB66-1F23C7728C6F-Webmail-10015@mac.com> References: <230AE0B6-0115-1000-BB66-1F23C7728C6F-Webmail-10015@mac.com> Message-ID: <471D1EC3.2050709@endpoint.com> Elizabeth Cortell wrote: > Please check in. I'm fairly new to the list, but plan to meet with the group soon. We had a close call in Santa Clarita last night, fire got within 1 mile of our house, but it appears to have moved on for now. Looking forward to a good nights sleep :) -- Ron Phipps End Point Corporation ron at endpoint.com From lembark at wrkhors.com Tue Oct 23 07:21:29 2007 From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:21:29 -0400 Subject: [LA.pm] OT: Fires. Everyone OK? In-Reply-To: <50A6D50E-14CA-418C-8C34-A4B7D8E15307@develooper.com> References: <545352.28579.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <50A6D50E-14CA-418C-8C34-A4B7D8E15307@develooper.com> Message-ID: <471E0369.1020301@wrkhors.com> > Looks like a friendly campfire > compared to the one in San Diego now though... I spent a few years volunteering to tutor hotshots at Camp Louis Routh (Tujunga Canyon) Fire Camp. They work on GED's and train to fight fires (1 day off their sentence for every 8 hrs on a fire). Interesting thing about the program is how changed the guys were after their first real fire. A 30' wall of flame is a great equalizer: it doesn't ask about your color, gang, or crime, it just burns. On the fire break the guys have two choices: cut out the bullshit or die together. Faced with the flame, they jettisoned the crap and started cutting. Interesting thing also is that the fire camps across the state have the highest success rate of any juvinile programs for inmates. It may be that the fires are a useful natural resource -- just don't build wooden structures in front of them. -- Steven Lembark 85-09 90th Street Workhorse Computing Woodhaven, NY 11421 lembark at wrkhors.com +1 888 359 3508 From naterajj at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 23:36:24 2007 From: naterajj at gmail.com (Juan Jose Natera) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:36:24 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Results of the LA.pm survey Message-ID: <349627440710242336p802b1abj655a3776be0ad837@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Much later than I expected and I apologize, here are the results of the survey we did at the last meeting. We got very diverse answers, I've tried to group them into closely related topics. These are the topic you want to see discussed in future meetings: # of Votes Topic 5 Perl 6 4 Web Development Frameworks 4 Debugging 4 Object Oriented Perl 3 Testing 3 Module Writing 3 Parrot 2 Logging 2 Concurrent Programming 1 Haskell 1 Best Practices 1 Object Relational Mapping frameworks 1 mod_perl 1 Rule Based Engines 1 Domain Driven Design 1 Portability 1 Design Patterns 1 Web Services Some modules that were specifically mentioned: Catalyst, HTML::Mason, Moose, log4perl. I can't promise that we will have talks on each and every subject, but we will try our best to get the topics at the top of the list discussed. Of course If you can give a presentation about any of the topics above mentioned, please get in touch with us. Best regards, The LA.pm Team P.S. we hope everyone is safe from the fires that have been ravaging California. From naterajj at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 10:29:14 2007 From: naterajj at gmail.com (Juan Jose Natera) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:29:14 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com Message-ID: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> Announcing LA.pm's next technical meeting! What: Open, but see below When: Thursday, Nov. 8th 2007 from 7:00pm to 9pm Where: Rent.com 2425 Olympic Blvd, Suite 400E Santa Monica, CA We don't have a speaker for this meeting, and thus we are going to try something different. We have 2 hours for speaking of Perl related subjects and we're going to start with: * Perl 5.10 for People Who Aren't Totally Insane - Juan Natera (20 Minutes): I will be repeating the presentation given by Ricardo Signes (rjbs) at the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop 2007 * Creating Domain Specific Languages with Parrot - Juan Natera (30 Minutes): I will demonstrate how to use Parrot to create a language designed specifically for making flight reservations. The rest of the time (70 minutes) is available for other speakers, all you have to do is send a reply to this email saying what will you be talking about and for how long, until we run out of time. If nobody else offers to speak then we will have a short meeting. Rent.com is an Ebay company, and one of the local Perl shops, they are located in Santa Monica. Find out more at http://www.rent.com/company/why IMPORTANT INFORMATION BELOW Google Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2425+Olympic+Blvd,+Suite+400E,+Santa+Monica,+CA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=48.50801,111.621094&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 Parking Instructions: *** Attendees please make sure to park in the Visitors section. PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO BRING YOUR PARKING TICKETS FOR VALIDATION *** Seating is limited and will be available on a first come, first served basis. The LA.pm Team From btilly at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 12:25:10 2007 From: btilly at gmail.com (Ben Tilly) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:25:10 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/28/07, Juan Jose Natera wrote: > Announcing LA.pm's next technical meeting! > > What: > > Open, but see below [...] > We don't have a speaker for this meeting, and thus we are going to > try something different. We have 2 hours for speaking of Perl related > subjects and we're going to start with: [...] > The rest of the time (70 minutes) is available for other speakers, all > you have to do is send a reply to this email saying what will you be > talking about and for how long, until we run out of time. If nobody > else offers to speak then we will have a short meeting. I don't have anything prepared, but I've helped on A/B testing at multiple companies, including Rent. Would the ins and outs of how to do A/B testing be useful to people? For those who don't know, A/B testing is when you develop two versions of the same page and show one to some people and the other to the rest. Then track how those groups do. When you're convinced that one group does better than the other, you cut off the test. The key problem is how to tell whether one group is really doing better, or whether you are looking at a random fluctuation. Ben From pablo at paeli.com Sun Oct 28 13:27:40 2007 From: pablo at paeli.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:27:40 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710281327.41037.pablo@paeli.com> Ben, This sounds really interesting, I hope you can give a talk. -Pablo On Sunday 28 October 2007 12:25:10 pm Ben Tilly wrote: > On 10/28/07, Juan Jose Natera wrote: > > Announcing LA.pm's next technical meeting! > > > > What: > > > > Open, but see below > > [...] > > > We don't have a speaker for this meeting, and thus we are going to > > try something different. We have 2 hours for speaking of Perl related > > subjects and we're going to start with: > > [...] > > > The rest of the time (70 minutes) is available for other speakers, all > > you have to do is send a reply to this email saying what will you be > > talking about and for how long, until we run out of time. If nobody > > else offers to speak then we will have a short meeting. > > I don't have anything prepared, but I've helped on A/B testing at > multiple companies, including Rent. Would the ins and outs of how to > do A/B testing be useful to people? > > For those who don't know, A/B testing is when you develop two versions > of the same page and show one to some people and the other to the > rest. Then track how those groups do. When you're convinced that one > group does better than the other, you cut off the test. > > The key problem is how to tell whether one group is really doing > better, or whether you are looking at a random fluctuation. > > Ben > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm From quinn at fairpath.com Sun Oct 28 18:50:27 2007 From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:50:27 -0800 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:25:10PM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: > I don't have anything prepared, but I've helped on A/B testing at > multiple companies, including Rent. Would the ins and outs of how to > do A/B testing be useful to people? I'm remotely interested. That is, I'm remote (located in San Francisco) and highly interested. :) If you give this talk, would you please consider making slides available? Thanks, PS: I Googled for existing slides, then realized Google is of limited use here, because it insists on searching for A and B as case-insensitive words rather than treating "A/B" as a literal string. Does anyone know of a good but more literal-minded search engine? -- Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/ 510-520-5217 From evaldas at imbrasas.com Sun Oct 28 19:59:13 2007 From: evaldas at imbrasas.com (Evaldas Imbrasas) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:59:13 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: > PS: I Googled for existing slides, then realized Google is of limited use > here, because it insists on searching for A and B as case-insensitive words > rather than treating "A/B" as a literal string. Does anyone know of a > good but more literal-minded search engine? A/B testing is a specific case of multivariate testing where the number of versions tested is equal to 2. Searching for "multivariate testing", "multi variant testing", or even "a b testing" seems to yield many relevant results on google (although most of them seem to be various companies offering their paid apps/services for multivariate testing). That said, I'm sure many LA.pm'ers will find it useful to hear the overview of A/B and multivariate testing, and how to implement it in-house. Ben - you're on. -- ----------------------------------------------------- Evaldas Imbrasas http://www.imbrasas.com From btilly at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 08:03:26 2007 From: btilly at gmail.com (Ben Tilly) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:03:26 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: On 10/28/07, Quinn Weaver wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:25:10PM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: > > > I don't have anything prepared, but I've helped on A/B testing at > > multiple companies, including Rent. Would the ins and outs of how to > > do A/B testing be useful to people? > > I'm remotely interested. > > That is, I'm remote (located in San Francisco) and highly > interested. :) > > If you give this talk, would you please consider making slides available? Ah. That presumes 3 things not at present true. 1. I have somewhere to put said slides. 2. I have slides to put. 3. I have the ability to give the presentation. Having never given one of these before, I have no computer to give the presentation with (I assume Rent can provide one), no slide-preparing software (I'm hoping someone will suggest one), and no internet home appropriate for putting the presentation on (I'm hoping someone will volunteer one, I know multiple people on this list with space). I am, in short, singularly ill-prepared and hopeful of assistance. :-) Assuming all of those change, I'm hoping to prepare slides on my wife's computer, put them up at the donated home, and give a presentation on the borrowed computer off of that location. And I'll gladly let everyone know where the presentation is afterwards. Cheers, Ben From ask at develooper.com Mon Oct 29 08:25:54 2007 From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:25:54 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: <5A6F6847-4241-480B-801C-D9D91BCFB153@develooper.com> On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:03 AM, Ben Tilly wrote: > [...] no slide-preparing software (I'm hoping someone will suggest > one), If you can get access to a mac then Apples Keynote software is completely fabulous for making presentations without either having the software get in the way or ending up spending more time managing the software than writing your presentation. :-) - ask -- http://develooper.com/ - http://askask.com/ From david at fetter.org Mon Oct 29 08:30:35 2007 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:30:35 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: <20071029153035.GA14638@fetter.org> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:03:26AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: > On 10/28/07, Quinn Weaver wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:25:10PM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: > > > > > I don't have anything prepared, but I've helped on A/B testing at > > > multiple companies, including Rent. Would the ins and outs of how to > > > do A/B testing be useful to people? > > > > I'm remotely interested. > > > > That is, I'm remote (located in San Francisco) and highly > > interested. :) > > > > If you give this talk, would you please consider making slides > > available? > > Ah. That presumes 3 things not at present true. > > 1. I have somewhere to put said slides. > 2. I have slides to put. > 3. I have the ability to give the presentation. > > Having never given one of these before, I have no computer to give > the presentation with (I assume Rent can provide one), no > slide-preparing software (I'm hoping someone will suggest one), OpenOffice has decent presentation software, and if you have a Mac available, Keynote is fantastic, even though it's neither Free nor free. Anybody got thumbs up/down on koffice's offering? > and no internet home appropriate for putting the presentation on > (I'm hoping someone will volunteer one, I know multiple people on > this list with space). Is there space on http://losangeles.pm.org ? > I am, in short, singularly ill-prepared and hopeful of assistance. > :-) "Ill-prepared" is what happens when you show up for the talk without having prepared. What you're doing now is called "preparing well." :) > Assuming all of those change, I'm hoping to prepare slides on my > wife's computer, put them up at the donated home, and give a > presentation on the borrowed computer off of that location. And > I'll gladly let everyone know where the presentation is afterwards. > > Cheers, Ben I don't think I'll be able to get down from Oakland for this one. Break a leg, as they say in show biz. :) Cheers, David -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter at gmail.com Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From alex at acatysmoof.com Mon Oct 29 09:06:49 2007 From: alex at acatysmoof.com (Alex Teslik) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:06:49 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: <20071029160530.M36399@acatysmoof.com> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:03:26 -0700, Ben Tilly wrote > no slide-preparing > software (I'm hoping someone will suggest one) http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5 HTH Alex From naterajj at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 09:13:06 2007 From: naterajj at gmail.com (Juan Jose Natera) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:13:06 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: <349627440710290913t1360b3cbr5c8b26b2d9f17f2@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/07, Ben Tilly wrote: ... > Assuming all of those change, I'm hoping to prepare slides on my > wife's computer, put them up at the donated home, and give a > presentation on the borrowed computer off of that location. And I'll > gladly let everyone know where the presentation is afterwards. > Great!, you can use my laptop for your presentation, it's running Debian, it has OpenOffice and Acrobat Reader. You just need to bring the slides in a thumb-drive or something like that. If you prefer Mac, someone else will have to step up. Juan From geekhunter at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 09:17:31 2007 From: geekhunter at gmail.com (Todd Cranston-Cuebas) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:17:31 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: <349627440710290913t1360b3cbr5c8b26b2d9f17f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> <349627440710290913t1360b3cbr5c8b26b2d9f17f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <803d9f750710290917g54d2e33cyc06ba03cd45700d8@mail.gmail.com> Hey all ;) I was planning on attending but unfortunately, I need to be at another conference that day. I'll do all I can to be at the next meeting. I miss you perl guys! Hope all is well and drop me a note to let me know how things are going. The LA-PM is having such cool talks! Regards, Todd Todd Cranston-Cuebas | Google Staffing | Santa Monica, CA Direct Line: (310) 309-6812 | eMail: tcc at google.com http://www.google.com/jobs http://labs.google.com/why-google.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w887NIa_V9w On 10/29/07, Juan Jose Natera wrote: > > On 10/29/07, Ben Tilly wrote: > ... > > Assuming all of those change, I'm hoping to prepare slides on my > > wife's computer, put them up at the donated home, and give a > > presentation on the borrowed computer off of that location. And I'll > > gladly let everyone know where the presentation is afterwards. > > > > Great!, you can use my laptop for your presentation, it's running > Debian, it has OpenOffice and Acrobat Reader. You just need to bring > the slides in a thumb-drive or something like that. If you prefer Mac, > someone else will have to step up. > > Juan > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20071029/bec2eeea/attachment-0001.html From btilly at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 10:48:42 2007 From: btilly at gmail.com (Ben Tilly) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:48:42 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: <20071029153035.GA14638@fetter.org> References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> <20071029153035.GA14638@fetter.org> Message-ID: On 10/29/07, David Fetter wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:03:26AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: > > On 10/28/07, Quinn Weaver wrote: [...] > > Ah. That presumes 3 things not at present true. > > > > 1. I have somewhere to put said slides. > > 2. I have slides to put. > > 3. I have the ability to give the presentation. > > > > Having never given one of these before, I have no computer to give > > the presentation with (I assume Rent can provide one), no > > slide-preparing software (I'm hoping someone will suggest one), > > OpenOffice has decent presentation software, and if you have a Mac > available, Keynote is fantastic, even though it's neither Free nor > free. Anybody got thumbs up/down on koffice's offering? I'm not interested in spending $79 on iWork for one presentation. And yes, I know that I could use the 30 day free trial, but I still don't want to do it. It just feels dishonest. OpenOffice is possible. But I just tried it. I tried to create a simple page and add a table. (A complex 4x4 table will be key to my presentation.) After 10 minutes of messing around, I realize that it will drive me crazy. I'm sure that if I had to give a lot of presentations I'd learn the software and find it very useful. But for one time, it would literally be easier to produce it myself in HTML. I think I'd prefer something I can develop in a text format. > > and no internet home appropriate for putting the presentation on > > (I'm hoping someone will volunteer one, I know multiple people on > > this list with space). > > Is there space on http://losangeles.pm.org ? Not for me to say, though I'd happily use it if offered. > > I am, in short, singularly ill-prepared and hopeful of assistance. > > :-) > > "Ill-prepared" is what happens when you show up for the talk without > having prepared. What you're doing now is called "preparing well." :) Let me amend that. I am *currently* unprepared. I am attempting to change this state of affairs. :-) > > Assuming all of those change, I'm hoping to prepare slides on my > > wife's computer, put them up at the donated home, and give a > > presentation on the borrowed computer off of that location. And > > I'll gladly let everyone know where the presentation is afterwards. > > > > Cheers, Ben > > I don't think I'll be able to get down from Oakland for this one. > Break a leg, as they say in show biz. :) Thanks. I hope I won't. Cheers, Ben From david at fetter.org Mon Oct 29 11:00:30 2007 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:00:30 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> <20071029153035.GA14638@fetter.org> Message-ID: <20071029180030.GJ14638@fetter.org> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 10:48:42AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: > On 10/29/07, David Fetter wrote: > > > > OpenOffice has decent presentation software, and if you have a Mac > > available, Keynote is fantastic, even though it's neither Free nor > > free. Anybody got thumbs up/down on koffice's offering? > > I'm not interested in spending $79 on iWork for one presentation. > And yes, I know that I could use the 30 day free trial, but I still > don't want to do it. It just feels dishonest. It's well worth the price if you plan to do presentations in the future. > OpenOffice is possible. But I just tried it. I tried to create a > simple page and add a table. (A complex 4x4 table will be key to my > presentation.) After 10 minutes of messing around, I realize that it > will drive me crazy. I'm sure that if I had to give a lot of > presentations I'd learn the software and find it very useful. This is part of what makes Keynote worth the price. Constructing a slide deck is dead easy, and the help system is really helpful. The killer feature from my point of view is the "presenter display," which, as far as I know, is unique to Keynote. > But for one time, it would literally be easier to produce it myself > in HTML. In that case, try S5. Cheers, David. -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fetter at gmail.com Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From ehammond at thinksome.com Mon Oct 29 11:17:24 2007 From: ehammond at thinksome.com (Eric Hammond) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:17:24 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] [lapm] Re: Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> <20071029153035.GA14638@fetter.org> Message-ID: <472623B4.90105@thinksome.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ben Tilly wrote: > one time, it would literally be easier to produce it myself in HTML. Here are a couple options which might help with creating presentations in HTML: HTML Slidy http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/#(1) S5 http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ I haven't tried them, but if you evaluate them and other options, perhaps you could do a presentation on which is best and why. - -- Eric Hammond ehammond at thinksome.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHJiOzN9qi28wBkF0RAoz/AKC/HAfCfTrtk7ZZu+REFU+jlusxqwCgqmGP yPIkwNjNpmRSsXDhJ8kmF9o= =cjWp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From btilly at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 12:11:19 2007 From: btilly at gmail.com (Ben Tilly) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:11:19 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: <20071029160530.M36399@acatysmoof.com> References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> <20071029160530.M36399@acatysmoof.com> Message-ID: On 10/29/07, Alex Teslik wrote: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:03:26 -0700, Ben Tilly wrote > > no slide-preparing > > software (I'm hoping someone will suggest one) > > http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5 That looks easy. Fairly straightforward to write, and since it is fundamentally just HTML, I have no questions how I'll do my table. It won't be the most elegant, but it should be workable. Cheers, Ben From quinn at fairpath.com Mon Oct 29 12:28:04 2007 From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:28:04 -0800 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> <20071029153035.GA14638@fetter.org> Message-ID: <20071029192804.GA47593@fu.funkspiel.org> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 10:48:42AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: > [...] > I think I'd prefer something I can develop in a text format. In that case, I can make one (negative) recommendation: do not use MJD's homebrew text-to-HTML slide program. While the design seems appealingly simple, I found one spends tons of time futzing with whitespace and other formatting, then regenerating the HTML, then repeating the cycle... In other words, it's just the kind of thing you want to avoid. BTW, I don't mean to disparage MJD at all. He's a great contributor to the Perl community, I love his writing, and I use his modules. He himself gives all sorts of warnings about how his slide system is a nasty kludge and how he released it only under pressure and with misgivings. :) So that's my advice. I'm sorry I don't have any positive suggestions, but I don't want to recommend something I haven't used. Good luck, and thanks for going to the trouble of making postable slides! -- Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/ 510-520-5217 From geekhunter at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 13:16:33 2007 From: geekhunter at gmail.com (Todd Cranston-Cuebas) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:16:33 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <20071029015027.GA38387@fu.funkspiel.org> <20071029160530.M36399@acatysmoof.com> Message-ID: <803d9f750710291316k6ef1a705ocb031f30c8295d24@mail.gmail.com> OK, I have to put in my two Google cents. Just use our online presentation tool. It's free and totally works. You can put up the presentation and then get to it from anywhere. Simple like ;) http://docs.google.com Todd On 10/29/07, Ben Tilly wrote: > > On 10/29/07, Alex Teslik wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:03:26 -0700, Ben Tilly wrote > > > no slide-preparing > > > software (I'm hoping someone will suggest one) > > > > http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5 > > That looks easy. Fairly straightforward to write, and since it is > fundamentally just HTML, I have no questions how I'll do my table. > > It won't be the most elegant, but it should be workable. > > Cheers, > Ben > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20071029/e90cf70f/attachment.html From alain at rent.com Mon Oct 29 13:45:45 2007 From: alain at rent.com (Alain Avakian) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:45:45 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Losangeles-pm Digest, Vol 50, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1193690745.3404.106.camel@d-smo-aavakian.rent.com> Ben, If you wish to borrow a laptop for your presentation, I'm sure we can accommodate. Let me know. Of course, as you already know, the laptops here are preconfigured with Windows XP :p On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 12:00 -0700, losangeles-pm-request at pm.org wrote: > Send Losangeles-pm mailing list submissions to > losangeles-pm at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > losangeles-pm-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > losangeles-pm-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Losangeles-pm digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com (Ben Tilly) > 2. Re: Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com (David Fetter) > 3. Re: [lapm] Re: Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com (Eric Hammond) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:48:42 -0700 > From: "Ben Tilly" > Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com > To: "David Fetter" > Cc: Los Angeles Perl Mongers > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 10/29/07, David Fetter wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:03:26AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: > > > On 10/28/07, Quinn Weaver wrote: > [...] > > > Ah. That presumes 3 things not at present true. > > > > > > 1. I have somewhere to put said slides. > > > 2. I have slides to put. > > > 3. I have the ability to give the presentation. > > > > > > Having never given one of these before, I have no computer to give > > > the presentation with (I assume Rent can provide one), no > > > slide-preparing software (I'm hoping someone will suggest one), > > > > OpenOffice has decent presentation software, and if you have a Mac > > available, Keynote is fantastic, even though it's neither Free nor > > free. Anybody got thumbs up/down on koffice's offering? > > I'm not interested in spending $79 on iWork for one presentation. And > yes, I know that I could use the 30 day free trial, but I still don't > want to do it. It just feels dishonest. > > OpenOffice is possible. But I just tried it. I tried to create a > simple page and add a table. (A complex 4x4 table will be key to my > presentation.) After 10 minutes of messing around, I realize that it > will drive me crazy. I'm sure that if I had to give a lot of > presentations I'd learn the software and find it very useful. But for > one time, it would literally be easier to produce it myself in HTML. > > I think I'd prefer something I can develop in a text format. > > > > and no internet home appropriate for putting the presentation on > > > (I'm hoping someone will volunteer one, I know multiple people on > > > this list with space). > > > > Is there space on http://losangeles.pm.org ? > > Not for me to say, though I'd happily use it if offered. > > > > I am, in short, singularly ill-prepared and hopeful of assistance. > > > :-) > > > > "Ill-prepared" is what happens when you show up for the talk without > > having prepared. What you're doing now is called "preparing well." :) > > Let me amend that. I am *currently* unprepared. I am attempting to > change this state of affairs. :-) > > > > Assuming all of those change, I'm hoping to prepare slides on my > > > wife's computer, put them up at the donated home, and give a > > > presentation on the borrowed computer off of that location. And > > > I'll gladly let everyone know where the presentation is afterwards. > > > > > > Cheers, Ben > > > > I don't think I'll be able to get down from Oakland for this one. > > Break a leg, as they say in show biz. :) > > Thanks. I hope I won't. > > Cheers, > Ben > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:00:30 -0700 > From: David Fetter > Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com > To: Ben Tilly > Cc: Los Angeles Perl Mongers > Message-ID: <20071029180030.GJ14638 at fetter.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 10:48:42AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: > > On 10/29/07, David Fetter wrote: > > > > > > OpenOffice has decent presentation software, and if you have a Mac > > > available, Keynote is fantastic, even though it's neither Free nor > > > free. Anybody got thumbs up/down on koffice's offering? > > > > I'm not interested in spending $79 on iWork for one presentation. > > And yes, I know that I could use the 30 day free trial, but I still > > don't want to do it. It just feels dishonest. > > It's well worth the price if you plan to do presentations in the > future. > > > OpenOffice is possible. But I just tried it. I tried to create a > > simple page and add a table. (A complex 4x4 table will be key to my > > presentation.) After 10 minutes of messing around, I realize that it > > will drive me crazy. I'm sure that if I had to give a lot of > > presentations I'd learn the software and find it very useful. > > This is part of what makes Keynote worth the price. Constructing a > slide deck is dead easy, and the help system is really helpful. The > killer feature from my point of view is the "presenter display," > which, as far as I know, is unique to Keynote. > > > But for one time, it would literally be easier to produce it myself > > in HTML. > > In that case, try S5. > > Cheers, > David. -- Alain Avakian Manager, Software Development Rent.com, an eBay company 310.449.6462 alain at rent.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20071029/528f735d/attachment.html From pablo at paeli.com Tue Oct 30 14:02:38 2007 From: pablo at paeli.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:02:38 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710301402.38380.pablo@paeli.com> I can give a 10 minute introductory talk about using template toolkit and perl, mostly examples of things we do. On Sunday 28 October 2007 10:29:14 am Juan Jose Natera wrote: > Announcing LA.pm's next technical meeting! > > What: > > Open, but see below > > When: > > Thursday, Nov. 8th 2007 from 7:00pm to 9pm > > Where: > > Rent.com > 2425 Olympic Blvd, Suite 400E > Santa Monica, CA > > We don't have a speaker for this meeting, and thus we are going to > try something different. We have 2 hours for speaking of Perl related > subjects and we're going to start with: > > * Perl 5.10 for People Who Aren't Totally Insane - Juan Natera (20 > Minutes): > > I will be repeating the presentation given by Ricardo Signes (rjbs) > at the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop 2007 > > * Creating Domain Specific Languages with Parrot - Juan Natera (30 > Minutes): > > I will demonstrate how to use Parrot to create a language designed > specifically for making flight reservations. > > The rest of the time (70 minutes) is available for other speakers, all > you have to do is send a reply to this email saying what will you be > talking about and for how long, until we run out of time. If nobody > else offers to speak then we will have a short meeting. > > Rent.com is an Ebay company, and one of the local Perl shops, they are > located in Santa Monica. Find out more at > > http://www.rent.com/company/why > > IMPORTANT INFORMATION BELOW > > Google Map: > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2425+Olympic+Blvd,+Suite+4 >00E,+Santa+Monica,+CA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=48.50801,111.621094&ie=UTF >8&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 > > Parking Instructions: > *** Attendees please make sure to park in the Visitors section. > PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO BRING YOUR PARKING TICKETS FOR VALIDATION *** > > Seating is limited and will be available on a first come, first served > basis. > > The LA.pm Team > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm From pablo at paeli.com Tue Oct 30 14:54:41 2007 From: pablo at paeli.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:54:41 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Tech. Meeting Nov 8th @ Rent.com In-Reply-To: <803d9f750710291316k6ef1a705ocb031f30c8295d24@mail.gmail.com> References: <349627440710281029m703db8eck6122e06dc22ce876@mail.gmail.com> <803d9f750710291316k6ef1a705ocb031f30c8295d24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200710301454.41629.pablo@paeli.com> I just tried creating a presentation and it's very easy to use, thanks Google! :-) On Monday 29 October 2007 1:16:33 pm Todd Cranston-Cuebas wrote: > OK, I have to put in my two Google cents. Just use our online presentation > tool. It's free and totally works. You can put up the presentation and then > get to it from anywhere. Simple like ;) > > http://docs.google.com > > Todd > > On 10/29/07, Ben Tilly wrote: > > On 10/29/07, Alex Teslik wrote: > > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:03:26 -0700, Ben Tilly wrote > > > > > > > no slide-preparing > > > > software (I'm hoping someone will suggest one) > > > > > > http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5 > > > > That looks easy. Fairly straightforward to write, and since it is > > fundamentally just HTML, I have no questions how I'll do my table. > > > > It won't be the most elegant, but it should be workable. > > > > Cheers, > > Ben > > _______________________________________________ > > Losangeles-pm mailing list > > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm From bibayoff at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 20:07:23 2007 From: bibayoff at gmail.com (Steve M Bibayoff) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:07:23 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Richard Stallman speaking at UC Irvine on Friday In-Reply-To: <540b90d0710302006h25bacd00v224e08d4a3aa2acc@mail.gmail.com> References: <540b90d0710302006h25bacd00v224e08d4a3aa2acc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <540b90d0710302007k4adf154avdd8be34f171a3bad@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Richard Stallman will be speaking at UC Irvine this Friday, Nov 2nd at 10:00am at the CalIT2 Auditorium. Richard Stallman is the Chief Gnu of the Free Software Foundation, the organization responsible for a substantial part of the utility of GNU/Linux system. He is also the intellectual father of the GNU General Public Licence, one of the most disruptive manifestos of the software age. He will speak on: ** The Danger of Software Patents ** "Richard Stallman launched the development of the GNU operating system (see www.gnu.org) in 1984. GNU is free software: everyone has the freedom to copy it and redistribute it, as well as to make changes either large or small. The GNU/Linux system, basically the GNU operating system with Linux added, is used on tens of millions of computers today. Stallman has received the ACM Grace Hopper Award, a MacArthur Foundation fellowship, the Electronic Frontier Foundation's Pioneer award, and the the Takeda Award for Social/Economic Betterment, as well as several honorary doctorates." 10:00am on Friday Nov 2nd at the CalIT2 Auditorium. The CalIT2 building is #325 at Coordinates H-8 on the UCI Campus Map: http://today.uci.edu/pdf/UCI_07_map_campus_core.pdf Parking is $7.00. Directions to UC Irvine can be found here: http://today.uci.edu/pdf/UCI_07_map_loc.pdf Also, if anyone is interested, there may be an ad hoc dinner party w/ Richard Stallman on Sunday evening/night right after BarCampLA ( http://barcampla.org/ ). If interested in attending this dinner, please email me OFFLIST w/, preferable, your cel phone # so I could text message you when I have the details. If you don't want to give me your cel phone number, I'll be happy to send out an email w/ the info. Any questions, please email me, Steve