From rspier at pobox.com Fri Feb 1 15:09:22 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: The Perl Review Message-ID: <15451.1026.275224.300163@rls.cx> [ Forwarded from phl.pm... ] The Perl Review is a new (currently) online Perl Magazine. David Adler and former phl.pm'ers Kurt Starsinic and Adam Turoff are involved with it, as are a number of other prominent folks in the Perl community. I've only had a chance to glance at the first issue, but it looks pretty cool. Go check it out. Walt ----- Forwarded message from "David H. Adler" ----- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:30:12 -0500 From: "David H. Adler" To: "ny.pm" Subject: The Perl Review Mail-Followup-To: "David H. Adler" , "ny.pm" User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Precedence: bulk The mystery is over. http://www.perl.org/ThePerlReview/ Enjoy. dha --=20 David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ I may have to double check on it, but I think that's the sweetest psychopathic comment I've had all week. - Vertilgo **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe ny" to majordomo@lists.pm.org** ----- End forwarded message ----- From ask at valueclick.com Fri Feb 1 15:39:05 2002 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: The Perl Review In-Reply-To: <15451.1026.275224.300163@rls.cx> Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Robert Spier wrote: > The Perl Review is a new (currently) online Perl Magazine. David > Adler and former phl.pm'ers Kurt Starsinic and Adam Turoff are > involved with it, as are a number of other prominent folks in the Perl > community. I've only had a chance to glance at the first issue, but > it looks pretty cool. Go check it out. And it's hosted in L.A. =) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than a billion impressions per week, http://valueclick.com From gstark at electrorent.com Mon Feb 4 11:04:11 2002 From: gstark at electrorent.com (Greg Stark (CP1 / MIS)) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Is there a meet this Saturday? Message-ID: <001301c1ad9d$f79bad10$8506800a@cp1.electrorent.com> Thank you. Gregory Stark Electro Rent Corporation (818)374-6371 From Fdavis at trendventures.com Tue Feb 5 10:45:13 2002 From: Fdavis at trendventures.com (Frank Davis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Is there a meet this Saturday? Message-ID: ...and is everyone still planning on meeting at TrendVentures? -----Original Message----- From: Greg Stark (CP1 / MIS) [mailto:gstark@electrorent.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:04 AM To: list@la.pm.org Subject: LA.pm: Is there a meet this Saturday? Thank you. Gregory Stark Electro Rent Corporation (818)374-6371 From SKamkar at LucidX.com Thu Feb 7 00:55:56 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Fourth North American YAPC: First Call for Participation References: <20020131223612.GA569@pobox.com> <15449.52039.999740.146258@rls.cx> <20020131230114.GF40454@darkuncle.net> Message-ID: <3C6224FC.2030904@LucidX.com> Definately not missing it this year (got there the first 2 years but last year it just happened to be on the same 3 days as finals!) Scott Francis wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:55:03PM -0800, rspier@pobox.com said: > >>http://www.yapc.org/America/cfp.txt >> > > personal testimony: YAPC19100 was without doubt the single most fun > conference I have ever attended. If you can only make one trip to a > conference this year, YAPC is worth consideration. > > (caveat: much of my fun was due to finally meeting IRL some of the folks I > had known on #perl for several years. YMMV.) > > -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From SKamkar at LucidX.com Thu Feb 7 01:01:09 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Is there a meet this Saturday? References: Message-ID: <3C622635.8060502@LucidX.com> Unfortunately we never got that set up -- still need a speaker, anyone have anything interesting to speak about? On another note, finals are finally finished and I just got back from San Diego! Now, for LAPM...Robert suggested a social meeting and I think that'd be good to get back into it again. I'm thinking of the Cheesecake Factory in Old Pasadena for Saturday, March 9th -- if anyone has any objections or recommendations, please let us all know ASAP. We'll definately be rolling soon -Samy Frank Davis wrote: > ...and is everyone still planning on meeting at TrendVentures? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Stark (CP1 / MIS) [mailto:gstark@electrorent.com] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:04 AM > To: list@la.pm.org > Subject: LA.pm: Is there a meet this Saturday? > > > > > Thank you. > > Gregory Stark > Electro Rent Corporation > (818)374-6371 > > > > > > > -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Thu Feb 7 01:09:21 2002 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Is there a meet this Saturday? In-Reply-To: <3C622635.8060502@LucidX.com> References: <3C622635.8060502@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <20020207070921.GB72093@darkuncle.net> On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 11:01:09PM -0800, SKamkar@LucidX.com said: > Unfortunately we never got that set up -- still need a speaker, anyone > have anything interesting to speak about? > > On another note, finals are finally finished and I just got back from > San Diego! > Now, for LAPM...Robert suggested a social meeting and I think that'd be > good to get back into it again. > > I'm thinking of the Cheesecake Factory in Old Pasadena for Saturday, > March 9th -- if anyone has any objections or recommendations, please let > us all know ASAP. We'll definately be rolling soon I'm down - the last time I was w/geeks at Cheesecake Factory it was a lot of fun. And for those that are interested, we may be able to go war driving afterwards. :) > -Samy -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager sfrancis@ [work:] t o n o s . c o m GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 872 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20020206/5a6eb312/attachment.bin From gstark at electrorent.com Thu Feb 7 10:32:10 2002 From: gstark at electrorent.com (Greg Stark (CP1 / MIS)) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LA.pm References: <20020131223612.GA569@pobox.com> <15449.52039.999740.146258@rls.cx> <20020131230114.GF40454@darkuncle.net> <3C6224FC.2030904@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <009001c1aff4$fd929e50$8506800a@cp1.electrorent.com> Folks, I'm very disappointed. I've been waiting since mid December to meet and discuss Perl with others. And, of all the groups in the LA area. Yours looked to be the most active or had the most members. The core of you seem to have had the first meeting of the year on the slopes skiing...sorry to have missed that (I do ski). I'm still looking forward to a early February meeting speaker or not. Things I'd like to know more about (hadn't had the time to explore) - CPAN - Modules in CPAN - New Modules in CPAN - Differences between Perl and mod_Perl (not clear on the mod_Perl build for Apache) - What's new. (gossip) - Plans for the rest of the year. .. Surly this would consume 2-4 hours easily for a first meeting of the year. Gregory Stark Electro Rent Corporation (818)374-6371 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samy Kamkar" To: "Scott Francis" Cc: "Robert Spier" ; Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:55 PM Subject: Re: LA.pm: Fourth North American YAPC: First Call for Participation > Definately not missing it this year (got there the first 2 years but > last year it just happened to be on the same 3 days as finals!) > > Scott Francis wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:55:03PM -0800, rspier@pobox.com said: > > > >>http://www.yapc.org/America/cfp.txt > >> > > > > personal testimony: YAPC19100 was without doubt the single most fun > > conference I have ever attended. If you can only make one trip to a > > conference this year, YAPC is worth consideration. > > > > (caveat: much of my fun was due to finally meeting IRL some of the folks I > > had known on #perl for several years. YMMV.) > > > > > > > -- > Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com > LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com > From SKamkar at LucidX.com Thu Feb 7 11:34:06 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LA.pm References: <20020131223612.GA569@pobox.com> <15449.52039.999740.146258@rls.cx> <20020131230114.GF40454@darkuncle.net> <3C6224FC.2030904@LucidX.com> <009001c1aff4$fd929e50$8506800a@cp1.electrorent.com> Message-ID: <3C62BA8E.3070606@LucidX.com> As of lately we haven't been able to get a speaker, but I'm sure you would like to join us at the early March social meeting (I hope you like cheesecake!) I'll be working on getting a speaker by then for the meeting after, and by then we'll have a place worked out again. Also, an idea for the meeting...since you're interested in modules, rather than one or two speakers, what we could do is have everyone just briefly talk about an interesting module they've used. I'm sure a lot of us have used modules that have been either really userful or just really neat, but we'll have to make sure not all choose the same Conway modules :) [If you're unaware of what I mean by Conway modules, check out: http://search.cpan.org/search?mode=author&query=DCONWAY -- these are Damian Conway's modules, they're all very cool] The social meeting will be planned for Saturday, March 9th, 4 PM at the CheeseCake Factory in Old Pasadena as I said in the other email, and again, if anyone has anything else to add/change to this, please let me know ASAP. -Samy Greg Stark (CP1 / MIS) wrote: > Folks, I'm very disappointed. I've been waiting since mid December to meet and discuss Perl with others. And, of all the groups in > the LA area. Yours looked to be the most active or had the most members. The core of you seem to have had the first meeting of the > year on the slopes skiing...sorry to have missed that (I do ski). I'm still looking forward to a early February meeting speaker or > not. > > Things I'd like to know more about (hadn't had the time to explore) > - CPAN > - Modules in CPAN > - New Modules in CPAN > - Differences between Perl and mod_Perl (not clear on the mod_Perl build for Apache) > - What's new. (gossip) > - Plans for the rest of the year. > > .. Surly this would consume 2-4 hours easily for a first meeting of the year. > > Gregory Stark > Electro Rent Corporation > (818)374-6371 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Samy Kamkar" > To: "Scott Francis" > Cc: "Robert Spier" ; > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: LA.pm: Fourth North American YAPC: First Call for Participation > > > >>Definately not missing it this year (got there the first 2 years but >>last year it just happened to be on the same 3 days as finals!) >> >>Scott Francis wrote: >> >> >>>On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:55:03PM -0800, rspier@pobox.com said: >>> >>> >>>>http://www.yapc.org/America/cfp.txt >>>> >>>> >>>personal testimony: YAPC19100 was without doubt the single most fun >>>conference I have ever attended. If you can only make one trip to a >>>conference this year, YAPC is worth consideration. >>> >>>(caveat: much of my fun was due to finally meeting IRL some of the folks I >>>had known on #perl for several years. YMMV.) >>> >>> >>> >> >>-- >>Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com >>LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com >> >> > > > -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From gstark at electrorent.com Thu Feb 7 16:06:31 2002 From: gstark at electrorent.com (Greg Stark (CP1 / MIS)) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Some Topics and things for the March Meeting Message-ID: <00e501c1b023$b3376320$8506800a@cp1.electrorent.com> I'd like to know more about the group and what interests all of you. Below is a questionnaire thing. I'd like to get some feedback. Please reply and indicate the level of interest you have on the items listed below. If it's missing add to the list. I'm just curious.. Ok .. :) Also, About how many people are in the LA.pm? - Active - LA.pm - Largest attendance (in recent memory) ******************************************************************* The Interest List. Rank 0(Zip)-9(Very Hot) - Attending YAPC - Would like to catch a ride with someone. - Presenting at YAPC - CPAN - Modules in CPAN - New Modules in CPAN - Differences between Perl and mod_Perl (not clear on the mod_Perl build for Apache) - What's new. (gossip) - LA.pm Plans for the rest of the year. - Linux -- RedHat --- Embedded Systems --- Devices... --- Tcl/Tk Application Development -- - WAP Devices - Apache -- Unix/Linux -- Windows - Security - Introduction to Perl - Presentation for those new to Perl - The Perl DBI - The Perl DataBase Interface, for MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, etc.. -- PostgreSQL on WinX(NT/2000) --- Admin with pgAdmin II -- SQL Relay -- Oracle -- ODBC --- Solaris --- Linux --- Windows - Stump the Wizard- A game with prizes played with a Perl guru - Golf- The game of trying to accomplish a task in the shortest code possible - Templating Systems -- SSI -- HTML::Mason -- HTML::Embperl -- Apache::AxKit -- Apache::ASP -- Text::Template -- Template Toolkit -- HTML::Template -- HTML_Tree -- Apache::XPP -- ePerl -- CGI::FastTemplate - Apache XML -- Xerces -- Cocoon -- AxKit - The Perl Debugger - What is Good Perl Programming Style - Optimizing Using the Perl Profiler - Perl Tools - Perl Religion- Whatever that means... - Perl Linguistics - Perl 6 - Embedded Perl - Regular Expression Wizardry - Using Perl to Parse Things - Tie and all things fit to be tied - mod_perl - Unicode and Perl Some additions cut from the Berkley.pm site (which has not been updated since 5/2/2001 ...) Rate your Perl knowledge and experience. - Novice/Guru Thank you. Gregory Stark Electro Rent Corporation (818)374-6371 From ask at valueclick.com Thu Feb 7 21:26:19 2002 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Some Topics and things for the March Meeting In-Reply-To: <00e501c1b023$b3376320$8506800a@cp1.electrorent.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Greg Stark wrote: > - Differences between Perl and mod_Perl (not clear on the > mod_Perl build for Apache) mod_perl is a module for Apache that gives access to the full Apache API from Perl. http://perl.apache.org/guide/intro.html#What_is_mod_perl > --- Tcl/Tk Application Development Yuk. :-) > - WAP Devices ZzZzZzz... > -- Xerces > -- Cocoon Don't curse! > Rate your Perl knowledge and experience. > - Novice/Guru Advanced Novice. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than a billion impressions per week, http://valueclick.com From clive at brandx.net Thu Feb 7 21:38:26 2002 From: clive at brandx.net (Clive Holloway) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: introduction Message-ID: <0202071938260T.26608@DSL106-072.brandx.net> hi all, dragged myself away from The Monastry to try to meet up with fellow Perl heads in RL. rather than boring you all to death, probably easier if you read my home node if interested: http://www.perlmonks.com/index.pl?node_id=61104 So, what have I missed? :) cLive ;-) From jamespitts at yahoo.com Fri Feb 8 13:58:25 2002 From: jamespitts at yahoo.com (James Pitts) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Some Topics and things for the March Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020208195825.92710.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com> There is one topic I'd like to get some feedback on at the next meeting. What I'd like to discuss is how to model collectible trading card game play in order to balance a deck. I am not a big-time Magic player or anything, I am just interested in starting up a collectible card game and would like to see how perl could be used to make it a better game. What I thought would be a challenging would be to program a card game simulator which would fire up multiple games with shuffled decks to adjust, for example, how many moves it would take to win. Of course, the problems involved with this sort of thing are numerous (for example, how would you account for the special cards that alter the rules of the game?). Still, it would make an interesting topic. - James Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Greg Stark wrote: > - Differences between Perl and mod_Perl (not clear on the > mod_Perl build for Apache) mod_perl is a module for Apache that gives access to the full Apache API from Perl. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20020208/0f987670/attachment.htm From SKamkar at LucidX.com Fri Feb 8 22:14:24 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: MEETING SET Message-ID: <3C64A220.7060304@LucidX.com> Our next (social) meeting is set for Saturday, March 9th. Here's the details: Date: Saturday, March 9th Time: 4 PM Cheesecake Factory (626-584-6000) 2 West Colorado Blvd. Pasadena, 91101 [Old Town] A map is available at http://la.pm.org/meetings/ as well as all other info listed here All topics of discussion are welcome, as this is a social meeting, and it'll be nice to see you all and to meet the rest of you! -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From SKamkar at LucidX.com Fri Feb 8 22:32:46 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Some Topics and things for the March Meeting References: <00e501c1b023$b3376320$8506800a@cp1.electrorent.com> Message-ID: <3C64A66E.5000604@LucidX.com> > - Attending YAPC YAPC should definately be a go (8) > - Would like to catch a ride with someone. I'm hoping for a plane for this trip :) (1) > - Presenting at YAPC Not this year > - CPAN I use it when I need it (5) > - Modules in CPAN The same..(5) > - New Modules in CPAN I haven't kept up with new ones (1) > - Differences between Perl and mod_Perl (not clear on the > mod_Perl build for Apache) Got some answers already :) we can discuss this at the March meeting > - What's new. (gossip) We'll have fun with this at the meeting > - LA.pm Plans for the rest of the year. Will be good for the meeting as well :) > - Linux Eh...I haven't used Linux for a few years so I don't know how behind I am, I'm a BSD person and an interest of 8/10 to that > -- RedHat 2 (It gets a 2 rather than a 0 just because the security issues are interesting) > --- Embedded Systems > --- Devices... > --- Tcl/Tk Application Development s/Tcl/$^X/ # :) > -- > - WAP Devices > - Apache > -- Unix/Linux > -- Windows > - Security Security++ (9) I may have something to share on screamingCobra (http://cobra.lucidx.com) as well as the HTML engine at the meeting, hope to get some feedback > - Introduction to Perl - Presentation for those new to Perl > - The Perl DBI - The Perl DataBase Interface, for > MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, etc.. > -- PostgreSQL on WinX(NT/2000) > --- Admin with pgAdmin II > -- SQL Relay > -- Oracle > -- ODBC > --- Solaris > --- Linux > --- Windows interest count of 6 > - Stump the Wizard- A game with prizes played with a Perl guru > - Golf- The game of trying to accomplish a task in the shortest > code possible 9! > - Templating Systems > -- SSI > -- HTML::Mason > -- HTML::Embperl > -- Apache::AxKit > -- Apache::ASP > -- Text::Template > -- Template Toolkit > -- HTML::Template > -- HTML_Tree > -- Apache::XPP > -- ePerl > -- CGI::FastTemplate > > - Apache XML > -- Xerces > -- Cocoon > -- AxKit > - The Perl Debugger > - What is Good Perl Programming Style > - Optimizing Using the Perl Profiler > - Perl Tools > - Perl Religion- Whatever that means... > - Perl Linguistics Sa da tay! > - Perl 6 interest of 8 > - Embedded Perl > - Regular Expression Wizardry Gotta love that (8) > - Using Perl to Parse Things HTML -- we'll talk about that one at the meeting :) > - Tie and all things fit to be tied > - mod_perl > - Unicode and Perl > > Some additions cut from the Berkley.pm site (which has not been updated > since 5/2/2001 ...) > > Rate your Perl knowledge and experience. > - Novice/Guru > > Thank you. > Gregory Stark > Electro Rent Corporation > (818)374-6371 > > > > -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From jeannelan at wwc.com Sat Feb 9 14:14:49 2002 From: jeannelan at wwc.com (Jeanne Langfeldt) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Hi & ? Message-ID: <099701c1b1a6$6e1ee310$adbc1840@Klamath> Hi, I am new to the list and the LA area, and have been into Perl for a couple of years now. I am looking for a webHost - any recommendations would be appreciated. Jeanne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20020209/67324228/attachment.htm From jamespitts at yahoo.com Sat Feb 9 15:10:07 2002 From: jamespitts at yahoo.com (James Pitts) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Hi & ? In-Reply-To: <099701c1b1a6$6e1ee310$adbc1840@Klamath> Message-ID: <20020209211007.25271.qmail@web21410.mail.yahoo.com> I have used Hostpro.com for several different mysql / perl projects. The problem with this provider (and many others) is that they don't allow you to install CPAN modules; you are stuck with what they think you need. Any suggestions out there about a good / cheap "virtual server" hosting service which gives you root? - James > I am looking for a webHost - any recommendations > would be appreciated. > > Jeanne > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com From SKamkar at LucidX.com Sat Feb 9 16:30:34 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Hi & ? References: <20020209211007.25271.qmail@web21410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3C65A30A.4070102@LucidX.com> You can still use modules that you don't have permissions to install. All you do is install like normal except don't do a 'make install'. Then you keep either the entire directory or just the 'blib/' dir that was created inside, and in your programs you do either of the following: use blib "/entire/path/to/ModuleDir"; # or use blib "/entire/path/to/blib"; use Module; For example, if I wanted to use Term::ANSIColor on a machine that didn't have it and I don't have root: $ cd /home/me $ wget http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/RRA/ANSIColor-1.04.tar.gz $ tar -zxvf ANSIColor-1.04.tar.gz $ rm ANSIColor-1.04.tar.gz $ cd ANSIColor-1.04 $ perl Makefile.PL $ make $ mv blib /home/me From now on, if I ever want to use Term::ANSIColor, I do the following in my perl programs: use blib "/home/me/blib"; # or just "/home/me" since it will # check for the blib dir inside use Term::ANSIColor; ... I'm sure there's a way when you run Makefile.PL or `make install` to have it automagically install into, say, /home/me/modules/ so everytime you want to install a module you easily just add an arguement to `make install` that will install it in the directory of your choice and in all your programs you always stick in a: use blib "/home/me/modules"; I'll look into that tonight and see what's the easiest way to get this done, and if there's no easy way, I'll just have to make an easy way :) [unless anyone else on the list already knows a way...? besides changing the INSTALL* paths in the Makefile..] -Samy James Pitts wrote: > I have used Hostpro.com for several different mysql / > perl projects. The problem with this provider (and > many others) is that they don't allow you to install > CPAN modules; you are stuck with what they think you > need. > > Any suggestions out there about a good / cheap > "virtual server" hosting service which gives you root? > > - James > > >>I am looking for a webHost - any recommendations >>would be appreciated. >> >>Jeanne >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From rosie+ at cs.cmu.edu Sat Feb 9 17:20:37 2002 From: rosie+ at cs.cmu.edu (Rosie Jones) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Hi & ? In-Reply-To: <3C65A30A.4070102@LucidX.com> Message-ID: What I generally do is what Samy suggested; give make an argument throught the Makefile.pl file: perl Makefile.pl LIB=/home/me/perlinstalldir/ then do all of make make test and make install and make install puts everything into /home/me/perlinstalldir/ Then in the BEGIN block of my perl scripts I put: # @INC has the places perl looks for modules unshift @INC, ("/home/me/perlinstalldir/", "/home/me/perlinstalldir/i686-linux/"); More generally, in case I have modules or handy little scripts etc installed in the same directory as the script itself, my begin block looks something like this: BEGIN { $perlinstalldir = "/home/me/perlinstalldir/"; $mypath = $0; # see where this perl script lives @dirs = split(/\//, $mypath); # unix-specific pop(@dirs); # strip of the name of the script if (@dirs) { $mypath = join('/', @dirs); } # put the path back # together else { $mypath = "."; } # or use . if we didn't have a whole path # these modules aren't available in the main distribution unshift @INC, ($perlinstalldir, "$perlinstalldir/i686-linux/", $mypath); } Rosie. From rspier at pobox.com Mon Feb 18 16:43:36 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Field Trip? Message-ID: <15473.33688.632957.351623@rls.cx> http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/02/17/cia.exhibit.ap.ap/index.html From bbacker at yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 01:35:57 2002 From: bbacker at yahoo.com (Bryan Backer) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: [SGVLUG] perl job - any takers In-Reply-To: <20020221202357.25839.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020223073557.63008.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com> There's also a local perl users' group at http://la.pm.org I'll cc their list with this msg -- visit their website if you'd like more info on their meetings. Bryan --- mathew s wrote: > > Hi, > > if there is no takers at sgvlug, > try lula.(org) also - I know > of a few perlers there. > > best > matti > > --- andrew mejia wrote: > > ok, > > > > i know this is not an advertising board for jobs, > > but > > i am trying to think of the people in the SGVLUG > > first. > > > > my company has a job that requires a perl programmer > > and i wanted to offer it to any of you before i > > would > > post it on craigslist.org. > > > > this is an ongoing project that could be 20-40 hours > > a > > week for up to 6 months, maybe longer. the project > > is > > for a major IT company with products that we geeks > > really like. > > > > any takers? > > please send to my personal email: > > mejia_linux@yahoo.com > > > > thanks, > > andrew > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com ===== ------------ bbacker@mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com From bbacker at yahoo.com Sat Feb 23 01:45:28 2002 From: bbacker at yahoo.com (Bryan Backer) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: [SGVLUG] perl job - any takers In-Reply-To: <20020222220556.7385.qmail@web11806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020223074528.53319.qmail@web12107.mail.yahoo.com> OK -- guess I should have worked my way through all the mail first... I'd still encourage local folks with an interest in perl to visit la.pm.org. Bryan --- andrew mejia wrote: > SGVLUG, > > Thanks to everyone for forwarding on suggestions/names > /resumes/links, etc... RE: the Perl job my company was > outsourcing for... > > it turns out that the PM hired someone she knew from a > previous gig. it's not always what you know, but > who you know. :( > > BTW, the gig was for a project for SUN Micro. we have > items coming up now and then and i promise to post > here first before looking elsewhere. > > thanks again! > andrew > > > --- mathew s wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > if there is no takers at sgvlug, > > try lula.(org) also - I know > > of a few perlers there. > > > > best > > matti > > > > --- andrew mejia wrote: > > > ok, > > > > > > i know this is not an advertising board for jobs, > > > but > > > i am trying to think of the people in the SGVLUG > > > first. > > > > > > my company has a job that requires a perl > > programmer > > > and i wanted to offer it to any of you before i > > > would > > > post it on craigslist.org. > > > > > > this is an ongoing project that could be 20-40 > > hours > > > a > > > week for up to 6 months, maybe longer. the > > project > > > is > > > for a major IT company with products that we geeks > > > really like. > > > > > > any takers? > > > please send to my personal email: > > > mejia_linux@yahoo.com > > > > > > thanks, > > > andrew > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > > http://sports.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com ===== ------------ bbacker@mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com From SKamkar at LucidX.com Tue Feb 26 00:52:59 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LAPM Golf Challenge Message-ID: <3C7B30CB.2000305@LucidX.com> I would like to present to you all the LAPM Golf Challence (LAPMGC)! The LAPMGC will be an exclusive competition for LAPMers to win prizes for their shortest code written to accomplish specific tasks. All information is at http://la.pm.org/golf/ Please let me know what you all think! Also, donations are welcome -- I'll just start giving out my own books to winners but hopefully soon we can get a nice pile of Perl/geek-stuff to give to each meeting's winner(s) :) -Samy -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Tue Feb 26 01:00:25 2002 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LAPM Golf Challenge In-Reply-To: <3C7B30CB.2000305@LucidX.com> References: <3C7B30CB.2000305@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <20020226070025.GA65213@darkuncle.net> On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 10:52:59PM -0800, SKamkar@LucidX.com said: > I would like to present to you all the LAPM Golf Challence (LAPMGC)! > > The LAPMGC will be an exclusive competition for LAPMers to win prizes > for their shortest code written to accomplish specific tasks. > > All information is at http://la.pm.org/golf/ > Please let me know what you all think! > > Also, donations are welcome -- I'll just start giving out my own books > to winners but hopefully soon we can get a nice pile of Perl/geek-stuff > to give to each meeting's winner(s) :) we _should_ be able to get ORA to donate some stuff ... don't we know some ORA folk from #perl? > -Samy -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager sfrancis@ [work:] t o n o s . c o m GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 872 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20020225/27f067c3/attachment.bin From SKamkar at LucidX.com Thu Feb 28 15:33:20 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LAPM mirror for those who can't access Message-ID: <3C7EA220.5020601@LucidX.com> Looks like two of you pacbell users can't access the site for some reason. Well here is a mirror I set up on a verio connection, you guys should be fine with this so if any of you are never able to access http://la.pm.org/, you can access: http://lapm.lucidx.com/ All updates will be reflected on there -Samy -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From rspier at pobox.com Thu Feb 28 15:41:39 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: LAPM mirror for those who can't access In-Reply-To: <3C7EA220.5020601@LucidX.com> References: <3C7EA220.5020601@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <15486.42003.923045.769492@rls.cx> Why don't you make the default on verio so we don't have to worry about this, and future pacbell users (of which there probablly will be more) won't have the problem either. Or, we can just move it to hfb.pm.org -R Samy Kamkar writes: >Looks like two of you pacbell users can't access the site for some reason. >Well here is a mirror I set up on a verio connection, you guys should be >fine with this so if any of you are never able to access >http://la.pm.org/, you can access: >http://lapm.lucidx.com/ >All updates will be reflected on there >-Samy > >-- >Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com >LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com -- From SKamkar at LucidX.com Thu Feb 28 15:45:34 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:12 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: LAPM mirror for those who can't access References: <3C7EA220.5020601@LucidX.com> <15486.42003.923045.769492@rls.cx> Message-ID: <3C7EA4FE.1040907@LucidX.com> I'm going to talk to pacbell first, see what the prob is. If they can't fix it, I'll get the dns updated for la.pm.org to the verio machine Robert Spier wrote: > Why don't you make the default on verio so we don't have to worry > about this, and future pacbell users (of which there probablly will be > more) won't have the problem either. > > Or, we can just move it to hfb.pm.org > > -R > > Samy Kamkar writes: > >>Looks like two of you pacbell users can't access the site for some reason. >>Well here is a mirror I set up on a verio connection, you guys should be >>fine with this so if any of you are never able to access >>http://la.pm.org/, you can access: >>http://lapm.lucidx.com/ >>All updates will be reflected on there >>-Samy >> >>-- >>Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- cp5@LucidX.com >>LucidX.com / cobra.LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com >> >