From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Sun Jul 1 17:28:46 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Next meeting on July 28th Message-ID: <3B3FA41E.CB09148D@LucidX.com> Address: Cafe Pop, 818 S. Fair Oaks, South Pasadena, 91030 [darkuncle++] Phone number: (626) 403-8111 Time: You'll want to arrive there around 5 or 6 PM on Saturday, July 28th Discussion: This meeting I'd like to discuss plans for the future of LAPM such as set dates and places for meetings, discussions that should be had, such as possibly code reviews, and any other points that people would like to bring up. Maps/More info: You can check maps.yahoo.com for maps or look below. Directions: maps.yahoo.com allows you to find directions, also. If you have any other questions, you can email Scott [darkuncle@darkuncle.net] and me [CommPort5@LucidX.com] about them. I'll see you all there... -Sam -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From asudarikov at xceed.com Sun Jul 1 17:39:22 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Next meeting Message-ID: Okay. Is South Pasadena close to Old Town Pasadena? This date is too close to dates of the Perl Conference 5.0 If I go, I am not sure I'll be back in time. On better news of a day, www.arkadiy.com is now owned by your very own, hosted at Kung Fu Design. Thanks to Jolon and Paul! My new email is arkadiy@arkadiy.com Now, Defcon, anyone? Buy, lease, rent, borrow or steal a motorcycle for July 12 through July 15, cos we there will be a run for Las Vegas those days! So far, I am only one riding... =o( You would also like to see if you want to buy a gun, for the DCShoot, Defcon event on shooting range. As I discovered on the road, you can try to get a gun if you over 18 years of age. Cheers, Arkadiy From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Sun Jul 1 18:23:26 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Next meeting References: Message-ID: <3B3FB0EE.60A1723A@LucidX.com> Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > Okay. > > Is South Pasadena close to Old Town Pasadena? Yeah, the cafe should be about a mile or two south of Old Town Pasadena > This date is too close to dates of the Perl Conference 5.0 If I go, I am not > sure I'll be back in time. July is _full_ of all kinds of stuff so it's really difficult to find any good Saturday at all, but at least TPC is over by that Saturday. Hopefully you'll make it.. > On better news of a day, www.arkadiy.com is now owned by your very own, > hosted at Kung Fu Design. Thanks to Jolon and Paul! My new email is > arkadiy@arkadiy.com Cool, cool..by the way, Jolon and Paul, you gotta start coming again, we're missin you :) > Now, Defcon, anyone? You bet, we'll see you there and any other LAPM'ers (by the way, the SUIDnet/toorcon crew are going to have a little get together, I'll let you guys know to sort of get LAPM involved too just to meet up :) > Buy, lease, rent, borrow or steal a motorcycle for July 12 through July 15, > cos we there will be a run for Las Vegas those days! So far, I am only one > riding... =o( /me is going to be in DeathRace 2001, I'm actually going with someone who is helping set it all up > You would also like to see if you want to buy a gun, for the DCShoot, Defcon > event on shooting range. As I discovered on the road, you can try to get a > gun if you over 18 years of age. I would love to do that, but too bad for the age thing :( > Cheers, > Arkadiy -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From asudarikov at xceed.com Sun Jul 1 18:21:41 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Exlusive write lock Message-ID: How do I set an exlusive write lock on file? Since they changed www.perl.com, I can't find shit. From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Sun Jul 1 19:24:20 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Exlusive write lock References: Message-ID: <3B3FBF34.6FDE329C@LucidX.com> Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > How do I set an exlusive write lock on file? Since they changed > www.perl.com, I can't find shit. use Fnctl ':flock'; flock(FH, LOCK_EX); # LOCK_EX should be 2 on most systems btw, I think you're time is off :) -Sam From asudarikov at xceed.com Sun Jul 1 19:21:44 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Exlusive write lock Message-ID: It's probably because I use Microsoft Exchange server that is located in Dallas, Texas :] From ask at valueclick.com Sun Jul 1 22:08:49 2001 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Exlusive write lock In-Reply-To: <3B3FBF34.6FDE329C@LucidX.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] wrote: > Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > > > How do I set an exlusive write lock on file? Since they changed > > www.perl.com, I can't find shit. > > use Fnctl ':flock'; > flock(FH, LOCK_EX); # LOCK_EX should be 2 on most systems or sysopen(LOCKFILE, $lockfile, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT) or die "can't open $lockfile: $!"; flock(LOCKFILE, LOCK_EX|LOCK_NB) or exit; if you don't want to block. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than 100M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com From ask at valueclick.com Sun Jul 1 22:10:35 2001 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Next meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > Okay. > > Is South Pasadena close to Old Town Pasadena? > > This date is too close to dates of the Perl Conference 5.0 If I go, I am not > sure I'll be back in time. yeah, I agree. I'd surely have PerlOverload.pm that day. But then again, I never show up to the LA.pm meetings anyway. %-) -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); From asudarikov at xceed.com Sun Jul 1 19:21:10 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Exlusive write lock Message-ID: btw, I think you're time is off Huh? =o) From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Mon Jul 2 00:23:25 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Next meeting on July 28th References: <3B3FA41E.CB09148D@LucidX.com> <15167.61586.976404.62772@rls.cx> Message-ID: <3B40054D.F2860A7D@LucidX.com> Robert Spier wrote: > > Arkadiy and Ask have a good point about the July 28th.. Days are hard > to find, but the day after TPC probably isn't the best. I was > thinking of driving down to SD for that weekend to see people at > TPC. (I can't go to TPC for $$ and time reasons, but that weekend a > lot of people will still be around.) > > Maybe a good "social event" would be a carpool down to SD to see > people? > > -R (overwhelmed with moving.) Going to SD wouldn't be a bad idea, actually...anyone who would be in LA that weekend interested? And the people that are already in SD will just stay there, a nice LAPM in SD :) Also, we may have an intertwined meeting between LAPM and JPLPM soon, I'll get more on that info soon -Sam From ask at valueclick.com Mon Jul 2 02:37:52 2001 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Next meeting on July 28th In-Reply-To: <3B40054D.F2860A7D@LucidX.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] wrote: [...] > Going to SD wouldn't be a bad idea, actually... Usually most people leave Friday. I'm pretty sure I will at least. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); From jeff at yoak.com Mon Jul 2 02:43:57 2001 From: jeff at yoak.com (Jeff Yoak) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Exlusive write lock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010702004327.0316cee0@pop.ix.netcom.com> At 06:21 PM 7/1/01 -0500, Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: >How do I set an exlusive write lock on file? Since they changed >www.perl.com, I can't find shit. perldoc -f flock flock($fh,2) or die "flock $!"; Cheers, Jeff From disordr at inntra.net Mon Jul 2 03:38:57 2001 From: disordr at inntra.net (Philip M.) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Next meeting on July 28th In-Reply-To: <3B40054D.F2860A7D@LucidX.com> Message-ID: SD for toorcon? is that what TPC stands for... (sorry its early) Im interested in going to toorcon... when is it again? exact time/date/cost i can take one or 2 people in my car, but i like to listen to loud obtrusive music (you have been warned) -Philip On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] wrote: > Robert Spier wrote: > > > > Arkadiy and Ask have a good point about the July 28th.. Days are hard > > to find, but the day after TPC probably isn't the best. I was > > thinking of driving down to SD for that weekend to see people at > > TPC. (I can't go to TPC for $$ and time reasons, but that weekend a > > lot of people will still be around.) > > > > Maybe a good "social event" would be a carpool down to SD to see > > people? > > > > -R (overwhelmed with moving.) > > Going to SD wouldn't be a bad idea, actually...anyone who would be in LA > that weekend interested? And the people that are already in SD will > just stay there, a nice LAPM in SD :) > Also, we may have an intertwined meeting between LAPM and JPLPM soon, > I'll get more on that info soon > > -Sam > From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Mon Jul 2 10:50:23 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Next meeting on July 28th References: Message-ID: <3B40983F.C5B4EBC3@LucidX.com> "Philip M." wrote: > > SD for toorcon? is that what TPC stands for... (sorry its early) > Im interested in going to toorcon... when is it again? exact > time/date/cost > i can take one or 2 people in my car, but i like to listen to loud > obtrusive music (you have been warned) > > -Philip TPC eq The Perl Confrence, Toorcon is September 28th to 30th which a few of us will be going...I'll be going for sure, not sure who else here will so you have some time to get ready -Sam From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Mon Jul 2 12:02:45 2001 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Next meeting on July 28th In-Reply-To: <3B40054D.F2860A7D@LucidX.com>; from CommPort5@LucidX.com on Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 10:23:25PM -0700 References: <3B3FA41E.CB09148D@LucidX.com> <15167.61586.976404.62772@rls.cx> <3B40054D.F2860A7D@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <20010702100245.A178@darkuncle.net> On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 10:23:25PM -0700, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] exclaimed: > Robert Spier wrote: > > > > Arkadiy and Ask have a good point about the July 28th.. Days are hard > > to find, but the day after TPC probably isn't the best. I was > > thinking of driving down to SD for that weekend to see people at > > TPC. (I can't go to TPC for $$ and time reasons, but that weekend a > > lot of people will still be around.) > > > > Maybe a good "social event" would be a carpool down to SD to see > > people? > > > > -R (overwhelmed with moving.) > > Going to SD wouldn't be a bad idea, actually...anyone who would be in LA > that weekend interested? And the people that are already in SD will > just stay there, a nice LAPM in SD :) heh, I'm ALWAYS down for a drive pretty much anywhere. Can only fit one other in my car, but I guarantee fun (as well as being the first ones in SD!) ;) CP5 has first dibs on the passenger seat ... > Also, we may have an intertwined meeting between LAPM and JPLPM soon, > I'll get more on that info soon I may know a few JPL (or ex-JPL) folks ... think some of the gf's family used to be JPL engineers ... > -Sam -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCB33CCA7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Between our two cars, we should be able to annoy most everybody on the 5 all the way there. ;) > -Philip -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCB33CCA7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My new email is > arkadiy@arkadiy.com > > Now, Defcon, anyone? > > Buy, lease, rent, borrow or steal a motorcycle for July 12 through July 15, > cos we there will be a run for Las Vegas those days! So far, I am only one > riding... =o( nothing would be more cool to me than to race over there on a GSX750-R ... but I think my gf would have a coronary. *sigh* > You would also like to see if you want to buy a gun, for the DCShoot, Defcon > event on shooting range. As I discovered on the road, you can try to get a > gun if you over 18 years of age. heh, big discussion lately on NANOG about a range day at the next NANOG in Oakland too ... > Cheers, > Arkadiy -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCB33CCA7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you're able/want to go to the meeting here in LA on the 28th.. If you want to go to SD instead on the 28th (or maybe leave sometime in the afternoon on the 27th)... If you're going to defcon (13th-15th)... If you're going to toorcon (Sept. 28th-30th!) If you'll still be at TPC Friday night/Saturday [27th/28th] [both tpc and toorcon are in SD and if we go to SD on the 27th/28th, I can round up a bunch of the toorcon people (mainly the ones running it) and we can hang out around there along with tpc people] so tell me what you all say, where you're going, what you want, and we'll get this thing on a roll On a side note, I want to start having a set place and certain day of each month to have a meeting (such as the last saturday of every month at Cafe Pop :), looks like Cafe Pop is good place thanks to Scott so the meeting will always happen but we can still have social events on the side, what do you all think? ten four -Sam From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Mon Jul 2 13:15:29 2001 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Meeting change? (was Re: Next meeting) In-Reply-To: <3B40B471.B98706E@LucidX.com>; from CommPort5@LucidX.com on Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 10:50:41AM -0700 References: <20010702101202.C178@darkuncle.net> <3B40B471.B98706E@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <20010702111529.F178@darkuncle.net> On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 10:50:41AM -0700, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] exclaimed: [snip] > If you're able/want to go to the meeting here in LA on the 28th.. check. > If you want to go to SD instead on the 28th (or maybe leave sometime in > the afternoon on the 27th)... check. (no preference over the above) > If you're going to defcon (13th-15th)... I'd like to, but unlikely ... > If you're going to toorcon (Sept. 28th-30th!) check. > If you'll still be at TPC Friday night/Saturday [27th/28th] nope. > [both tpc and toorcon are in SD and if we go to SD on the 27th/28th, I > can round up a bunch of the toorcon people (mainly the ones running it) > and we can hang out around there along with tpc people] coolth. > On a side note, I want to start having a set place and certain day of > each month to have a meeting (such as the last saturday of every month > at Cafe Pop :), looks like Cafe Pop is good place thanks to Scott so the > meeting will always happen but we can still have social events on the > side, what do you all think? excellent. they make a killer iced mocha (and I am the resident italian soda master ... ;) ) > ten four > -Sam -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCB33CCA7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You bet If you're going to toorcon (Sept. 28th-30th!) Yes From asudarikov at xceed.com Mon Jul 2 13:02:17 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Meeting change Message-ID: If you're able/want to go to the meeting here in LA on the 28th.. Don't know If you want to go to SD instead on the 28th (or maybe leave sometime in the afternoon on the 27th)... Yes If you'll still be at TPC Friday night/Saturday [27th/28th] I am not sure if I'll go to Perl Conference, but I don't mind driving to San Diego If you're going to defcon (13th-15th)... You bet If you're going to toorcon (Sept. 28th-30th!) Yes From mdeazley at 1stconnect.com Tue Jul 3 10:34:19 2001 From: mdeazley at 1stconnect.com (Mark J. Deazley) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Lurkers Anonymous Message-ID: <01C1039A.F4006CC0.mdeazley@1stconnect.com> I've never made it to one of the meetings as I'm out in the hinterlands of Val Verde. But my two cents is that the meetings need to be on a fixed date and set of locations... Its too hard to plan otherwise. I was launching on July 28th for my moto-vacation so I most likely won't make the next one either. Re: Arkadiy's LV Ride: Do they have CS tourneys at DefCon9 ???? Never been to one. Do they let people over 40 in? ;-~ A midnight moto romp with a pit-stop in Pahrump (o-yeah-baby) might just be in order! And all married GSX squids can stay home ;-). MJD .aka. ST1100MAN aboard 'apoSTate' From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 3 10:59:54 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Lurkers Anonymous References: <01C1039A.F4006CC0.mdeazley@1stconnect.com> Message-ID: <3B41EBFA.4564AD8A@LucidX.com> "Mark J. Deazley" wrote: > > I've never made it to one of the meetings as I'm out in the hinterlands of > Val Verde. But my two cents is that the meetings need to be on a fixed date > and set of locations... Its too hard to plan otherwise. Yup, in a previous email I said that's what I wanted to plan for either the last Saturday or first Saturday of the month at Cafe Pop. Then as long as everything is fine the next meeting we have there, we'll set that data, place, and time the same from then on. > I was launching on July 28th for my moto-vacation so I most likely won't > make the next one either. Hopefully next meeting.. > Re: Arkadiy's LV Ride: Do they have CS tourneys at DefCon9 ???? Never been > to one. Do they let people over 40 in? ;-~ I don't believe they have any tourneys (unless you count the rootwars box cracking) > A midnight moto romp with a pit-stop in Pahrump (o-yeah-baby) might just be > in order! And all married GSX squids can stay home ;-). > > MJD .aka. ST1100MAN aboard 'apoSTate' -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From ask at valueclick.com Tue Jul 3 11:55:00 2001 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Lurkers Anonymous In-Reply-To: <3B41EBFA.4564AD8A@LucidX.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] wrote: > "Mark J. Deazley" wrote: > > > > I've never made it to one of the meetings as I'm out in the hinterlands of > > Val Verde. But my two cents is that the meetings need to be on a fixed date > > and set of locations... Its too hard to plan otherwise. > Yup, in a previous email I said that's what I wanted to plan for either > the last Saturday or first Saturday of the month at Cafe Pop. Then as > long as everything is fine the next meeting we have there, we'll set > that data, place, and time the same from then on. I really liked the idea of a new place every time ... :-) Like, I'd get to "see town" (if I actually showed up, that is). :-) -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 3 12:26:35 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Lurkers Anonymous References: Message-ID: <3B42004B.88F9AB99@LucidX.com> Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > I really liked the idea of a new place every time ... :-) Like, I'd > get to "see town" (if I actually showed up, that is). That's what the social events'll be helpful for :) We'll have a monthly meeting in the same place, same time, every month but on the side we'll randomly set up anything else, such as this trip to SD.. > :-) Agreed. > -- > ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); -Sam From asudarikov at xceed.com Tue Jul 3 12:45:47 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Lurkers Anonymous Message-ID: I have two comments on this. 1. So, I can do: my $text=q( ... some big bad ass multi-line text goes in here ... ); $text=~ m/.{0, 250}\b/s; my $truncated_text=$&; $truncated_text.='...' unless $text eq '' or length $text < 250; Is there a better way to accomplish this? 2. Okay, Counter Strike tourneys? What's that? Post Scriptum: I think it's just fine for us to discuss plans for next meeting. It's almost a month away, god damn it. And I don't think it has to be in a set date or location. Like, whatever. As long as it's cool. I've never made it to one of the meetings as I'm out in the hinterlands of Val Verde. But my two cents is that the meetings need to be on a fixed date and set of locations... Its too hard to plan otherwise. I was launching on July 28th for my moto-vacation so I most likely won't make the next one either. Re: Arkadiy's LV Ride: Do they have CS tourneys at DefCon9 ???? Never been to one. Do they let people over 40 in? ;-~ A midnight moto romp with a pit-stop in Pahrump (o-yeah-baby) might just be in order! And all married GSX squids can stay home ;-). MJD .aka. ST1100MAN aboard 'apoSTate' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20010703/28ff4b2c/attachment.htm From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 3 13:19:47 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Lurkers Anonymous References: Message-ID: <3B420CC3.C06883DF@LucidX.com> > Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > I have two comments on this. > > 1. So, I can do: > > my $text=q( ... some big bad ass multi-line text goes in here ... ); > $text=~ m/.{0, 250}\b/s; > my $truncated_text=$&; > $truncated_text.='...' unless $text eq '' or length $text < 250; Do you mean > 250? If not, $truncated_text .= '...' unless length($text) < 250; # is all you need You can also do my ($truncated_text) = $text =~ m/(.{0, 250}\b)/s; > 2. Okay, Counter Strike tourneys? What's that? > > Post Scriptum: I think it's just fine for us to discuss plans for next > meeting. It's almost a month away, god damn it. And I don't think it > has to be in a set date or location. Like, whatever. As long as it's > cool. Set dates just help people plan better for them and always be prepared so no one's ever confused, but I agree it has to be cool ;) From disordr at inntra.net Tue Jul 3 06:18:26 2001 From: disordr at inntra.net (Philip M.) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Lurkers Anonymous In-Reply-To: <3B420CC3.C06883DF@LucidX.com> Message-ID: can i still come to the la.pm meetings even though im not a perl programmer ? ;) im learning xml though for work..... wh000p!!! -Philip On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] wrote: > > Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > > > I have two comments on this. > > > > 1. So, I can do: > > > > my $text=q( ... some big bad ass multi-line text goes in here ... ); > > $text=~ m/.{0, 250}\b/s; > > my $truncated_text=$&; > > $truncated_text.='...' unless $text eq '' or length $text < 250; > > Do you mean > 250? > If not, $truncated_text .= '...' unless length($text) < 250; # is all > you need > You can also do > my ($truncated_text) = $text =~ m/(.{0, 250}\b)/s; > > > > 2. Okay, Counter Strike tourneys? What's that? > > > > Post Scriptum: I think it's just fine for us to discuss plans for next > > meeting. It's almost a month away, god damn it. And I don't think it > > has to be in a set date or location. Like, whatever. As long as it's > > cool. > Set dates just help people plan better for them and always be prepared > so no one's ever confused, but I agree it has to be cool ;) > From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 3 13:27:38 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Lurkers Anonymous References: Message-ID: <3B420E9A.4827B4ED@LucidX.com> "Philip M." wrote: > > can i still come to the la.pm meetings even though im not a perl > programmer ? ;) > > im learning xml though for work..... wh000p!!! > > -Philip Sure, why not...I'm talking to the suidnet/toorcon crew in SD to meet up with us if we go to SD, hope you're up for it -Sam From asudarikov at xceed.com Tue Jul 3 13:35:32 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Regex Message-ID: Okay, my ($truncated_text)=$text=~ m/(.{0,250}\b)/s Is that true that m/(.{0,250}\b)/s returns a list value? From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 3 13:56:42 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Lurkers Anonymous References: Message-ID: <3B42156A.2BCFB77D@LucidX.com> > Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > my $truncated_text=$text=~ m/.{0, 250}\b/s; You'll need to keep it my ($truncated_text) = $text=~ m/(.{0, 250}\b)/s; or it will return if it matched or not in $truncated_text... > Ah, yes! But will $text be lexical too? Yup, as long as you declared it with my > And, no, it's gotta be $text < 250, because I don't want ... if it's > empty string or if the original text it less than 250. Ah, then you can just have it $truncated_text .= '...' if length($text) < 250; From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 3 13:58:02 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Regex References: Message-ID: <3B4215BA.8E2E5A82@LucidX.com> Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > Okay, my ($truncated_text)=$text=~ m/(.{0,250}\b)/s > > Is that true that m/(.{0,250}\b)/s returns a list value? yup From asudarikov at xceed.com Tue Jul 3 13:24:08 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Lurkers Anonymous Message-ID: my $truncated_text=$text=~ m/.{0, 250}\b/s; Ah, yes! But will $text be lexical too? And, no, it's gotta be $text < 250, because I don't want ... if it's empty string or if the original text it less than 250. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20010703/8b31d45e/attachment.htm From ask at valueclick.com Tue Jul 3 16:56:11 2001 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Regex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > Is that true that m/(.{0,250}\b)/s returns a list value? yes, in list context it does. -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); From asudarikov at xceed.com Tue Jul 3 13:57:03 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Regex Message-ID: By the same token, if I had a regex matching multiple things, it would return those things separetely, in a list. Correct? > Okay, my ($truncated_text)=$text=~ m/(.{0,250}\b)/s > > Is that true that m/(.{0,250}\b)/s returns a list value? yup From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 3 19:39:22 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Regex References: Message-ID: <3B4265BA.507EEC7E@LucidX.com> Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > By the same token, if I had a regex matching multiple things, it would > return those things separetely, in a list. Correct? yup, for example $temp = "xy"; ($x, $y) = $temp =~ /(.)(.)/; You can guess what the values will be then.. -Sam From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 3 20:42:32 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Trip to San Diego Message-ID: <3B427488.F8AD27B8@LucidX.com> Ok, so we're setting up a trip to San Diego on the 28th for those of you who haven't heard...so far it looks like the people that are going to drive over there: me, Scott [darkuncle], Paul [push...he's been afraid of me lately ;], Arkadiy, Philip (disordr, not sure if you're coming or not..), anyone else up for it? I'll be moving the meeting scheduled for the 28th at the cafe a week up so it will be on August 4th If anyone else wants to drive along just push an email through -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From asudarikov at xceed.com Tue Jul 3 22:10:26 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: RE: Trip to San Diego Message-ID: Oh, yeah. From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Wed Jul 4 00:59:08 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Actual meeting moved up, SD trip stays Message-ID: <3B42B0AC.EE510B3D@LucidX.com> Just to let everyone know, I updated http://la.pm.org and the meetings page. I moved the actual meeting in Cafe Pop to August 4th (originally scheduled for July 28th). Now on the 28th, as you all know, we'll be taking a trip to San Diego. Anyone else interested in driving to SD with us, let me/the list know. Also if anyone is interested in speaking about something at the next meeting, please give me a topic and I'll add it under the discussion section on the meetings page. If you want to know the specifics of the meeting, check http://la.pm.org/meetings/ -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Wed Jul 4 01:10:26 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Defcon Goers Message-ID: <3B42B352.42FDFB74@LucidX.com> Defcon goers...check out http://defcon.lucidx.com, we'll have a meetup there (on the 13th) also for anyone who's going -Samy From disordr at inntra.net Tue Jul 3 19:26:32 2001 From: disordr at inntra.net (Philip M.) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Trip to San Diego In-Reply-To: <3B427488.F8AD27B8@LucidX.com> Message-ID: whats going on in SD on the 28th again? -philip On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] wrote: > Ok, so we're setting up a trip to San Diego on the 28th for those of you > who haven't heard...so far it looks like the people that are going to > drive over there: > me, Scott [darkuncle], Paul [push...he's been afraid of me lately ;], > Arkadiy, Philip (disordr, not sure if you're coming or not..), anyone > else up for it? > I'll be moving the meeting scheduled for the 28th at the cafe a week up > so it will be on August 4th > > If anyone else wants to drive along just push an email through > > -- > Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com > LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org > From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Wed Jul 4 02:35:03 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Trip to San Diego References: Message-ID: <3B42C727.D27B8E63@LucidX.com> "Philip M." wrote: > > whats going on in SD on the 28th again? > -philip Just an after-TPC party for non-TPC-goers or the ones that are still there :) (TPC == the perl confrence), also we'll meet up with the suidnet/toorcon people which you and i know and a few others on the list and just have a good time, it's just a social event and it's not really perl related either but healthy for the group. From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Thu Jul 5 15:31:07 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: [Fwd: programing] job Message-ID: <3B44CE8B.66A6B806@LucidX.com> -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "phillip" Subject: programing Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:11:42 -0700 Size: 14233 Url: http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20010705/b7ffe998/attachment.eml From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 17 12:07:02 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Trip to SD Message-ID: <3B5470B6.7EFDFBD5@LucidX.com> Ok, time to start talking about the trip to San Diego on the 28th. /me just got back from defcon, time to get ready for the trip and ToorCon I'm speaking with a few other people about it but if anyone has any recommendations or anything, please speak up I'm thinking of grouping some people in SD already and also people still there from TPC and going out for some food at different times to have not so huge groups of people or anything, depending on if we know the number or not. Tell me what you all think... -Sam -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Wed Jul 18 23:47:55 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Trip to SD Message-ID: <3B56667B.D1A95B5D@LucidX.com> Ok, well I talked with David Hulton (he runs toorcon) and we shall be meeting up with them sometime on the 28th when we go to San Deigo (so anyone else up for coming?). Try to round up anyone else you'd like to come or meet up with that are already in SD (since TPC end the day before) and if you recommend anything, speak up... So, anyone who went to defcon get an invite to ceazar's challenge? (www.caezarschallenge.org) I'm working on 5B (the question is up on the page), it seemed everyone was working on the napster question, 5A, and just my friends and i on 5B.... Also, we're trying to get a lot of people to come to toorcon this year, so if anyone is interested in coming to a confrence just like BlackHat (but cheaper), you should come. It actually has many of the speakers from BlackHat and is only the price of DefCon and a bunch of LAPM'ers are going so hopefully more can come [it's in SD, too, http://www.toorcon.com, /me == webmaster] and i'd like the word to get spread :) Talk to you all soon.. -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From asudarikov at xceed.com Thu Jul 19 04:10:46 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:01 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Trip to San Diego Message-ID: All right, you cats. I am planning on taking this trip to San Diego on Saturday, July 28. I will have room in my car for [one .. two] people, so whoever might need a ride--consider. Everyone enjoyed their Defcon and had safe ride back home? Good. Take care for now. More Interwoven h4kin' for me tonight. From rspier at pobox.com Fri Jul 20 19:00:04 2001 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Trip to San Diego In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <995673604.3b58c60470718@webmail.jibsheet.com> I'm planning on going too - I've got a car, with room for one other person, and a midget or two. But I'm not sure I want to take my car if other people are going. There are also some people I want to try and meet while in SD... So: who is going? who is driving? -R Quoting Arkadiy Sudarikov : > All right, you cats. > > I am planning on taking this trip to San Diego on Saturday, July 28. I > will > have room in my car for [one .. two] people, so whoever might need a > ride--consider. Everyone enjoyed their Defcon and had safe ride back > home? > Good. Take care for now. More Interwoven h4kin' for me tonight. > > From asudarikov at xceed.com Fri Jul 20 19:37:26 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Regex Message-ID: Dear all, If I need to get name and email, then what's the regex? I have 'Last name, First name '. I need 'Last name, First name', 'email@server.com'. I use this, if ($sender=~ m/^(.+)\s*\<(.+\@.+)\>$/) { print p $1; print p $2 } But there is problem with space between name and email, between '... name <...'. Suggestions, anyone? From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Fri Jul 20 20:02:00 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Regex References: Message-ID: <3B58D488.8729190D@LucidX.com> $example = 'Port, Comm '; ($last, $first, $email) = $example =~ /^([^,]+),\s+([^\s]+)\s+<([^>]+)>$/; print "$first $last - $email\n"; that prints: Comm Port - cp5@lucidx.com Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > Dear all, > > If I need to get name and email, then what's the regex? > > I have 'Last name, First name '. > > I need 'Last name, First name', 'email@server.com'. > > I use this, > > if ($sender=~ m/^(.+)\s*\<(.+\@.+)\>$/) { > print p $1; > print p $2 } > > But there is problem with space between name and email, between '... name > <...'. > > Suggestions, anyone? -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From asudarikov at xceed.com Fri Jul 20 19:50:55 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Regex Message-ID: Nevermind (dummy me) =o) m/^(.+)\b\s*\<(.+\@.+)\>$/ This will do the trick. From asudarikov at xceed.com Mon Jul 23 05:02:56 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Loop Message-ID: Hi peeps. If I want to loop something but really not do anything, just loop, what are ALL of my alternatives? See, check checkes something on the system, and can return true or false. So, if I want it to try to check until I get it, how do I loop, with no output, just loop? while (system 'check') {} -- seems silly =o) From rspier at pobox.com Mon Jul 23 12:16:25 2001 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Loop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <995908585.3b5c5be90fd82@webmail.jibsheet.com> You don't really want ALL of the alternatives. How about: 1 while ( cond ); But really, there's nothing wrong with while( cond ) {}; it's very clear what you mean there. -R Quoting Arkadiy Sudarikov : > Hi peeps. > > If I want to loop something but really not do anything, just loop, what > are > ALL of my alternatives? > > See, check checkes something on the system, and can return true or > false. > So, if I want it to try to check until I get it, how do I loop, with > no > output, just loop? > > while (system 'check') {} -- seems silly =o) > > From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 24 21:21:41 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Trip to SD planned! Message-ID: <3B5E2D35.84D6ED09@LucidX.com> Ok, so if anyone would like to come to SD for us for a day (a mostly-unplanned day :), meet with us at Cafe Pop on Saturday, July 28th at 9AM. Details are up at http://la.pm.org/meetings/ but if you have any questions just email me or the list. Also, whoever is coming, bring FRS radios! -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From asudarikov at xceed.com Tue Jul 24 21:20:26 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Trip to SD planned Message-ID: Huh? Cafe Pop at South Pasadena, San Diego area? From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 24 21:29:00 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: Trip to SD planned References: Message-ID: <3B5E2EEC.98DD97A1@LucidX.com> Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > Huh? Cafe Pop at South Pasadena, San Diego area? No, no :) We meet up in Cafe Pop in South Pasadena, Los Angeles area :) from there we plan our trip and then drive to San Diego From jamespitts at yahoo.com Wed Jul 25 00:17:22 2001 From: jamespitts at yahoo.com (James Pitts) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Loop In-Reply-To: <995908585.3b5c5be90fd82@webmail.jibsheet.com> Message-ID: <20010725051722.81863.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Call me silly, but I sometimes do this: while (0==0) { $condition = &test_stuff(); last if ($condition); } Maybe I just like how that looks, plus it will keep looping so long as 0 continues to equal 0 ... :) - James --- Robert Spier wrote: > You don't really want ALL of the alternatives. > > How about: > > 1 while ( cond ); > > But really, > there's nothing wrong with > > while( cond ) {}; > > it's very clear what you mean there. > > -R > > Quoting Arkadiy Sudarikov : > > > Hi peeps. > > > > If I want to loop something but really not do > anything, just loop, what > > are > > ALL of my alternatives? > > > > See, check checkes something on the system, and > can return true or > > false. > > So, if I want it to try to check until I get it, > how do I loop, with > > no > > output, just loop? > > > > while (system 'check') {} -- seems silly =o) > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From asudarikov at xceed.com Wed Jul 25 01:21:33 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: SIG __WARN__ Message-ID: What would you, guys, recommend to use to ignore warn (and ignore die)? From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Wed Jul 25 01:43:03 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: SIG __WARN__ References: Message-ID: <3B5E6A77.F83C69C0@LucidX.com> Arkadiy Sudarikov wrote: > > What would you, guys, recommend to use to ignore warn (and ignore die)? $SIG{__WARN__} = sub { }; $SIG{__DIE__} = sub { }; # that should work well -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From asudarikov at xceed.com Wed Jul 25 01:44:22 2001 From: asudarikov at xceed.com (Arkadiy Sudarikov) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Re: SIG __WARN__ Message-ID: Piece of shit stupid iPlanet server dies on warnings, I used local $SIG{'__WARN__'}=sub {} and local $SIG{'__DIE__'}=sub {} and it still dies. From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Wed Jul 25 18:55:10 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: new tlds (sorta) Message-ID: <3B5F5C5E.31932F0C@LucidX.com> check this out, http://www.new.net instead of getting the tlds registered through icann, they're making their own icann-type thing.... so far they got a bunch of isps to support them, such as @home, earthlink, prodigy, and a few others they have some neato tlds like .tech...(i almost had a few neat ones like compu.tech but while i was registering them they got registered by someone else ;-o ) -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Thu Jul 26 05:10:18 2001 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: new tlds (sorta) In-Reply-To: <3B5F5C5E.31932F0C@LucidX.com>; from CommPort5@LucidX.com on Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 04:55:10PM -0700 References: <3B5F5C5E.31932F0C@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <20010726031018.A88555@darkuncle.net> On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 04:55:10PM -0700, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] exclaimed: > check this out, http://www.new.net > instead of getting the tlds registered through icann, they're making > their own icann-type thing.... NO NO NO NO NO new.net is the fscking DEVIL. Please read the NANOG archives on this subject at http://www.nanog.org. Multiple colliding fake root-zones is a recipe for disaster (what if Bob has big.tech and somebody somewhere else decides to register it themselves? without a single authoritative root, you have complete chaos). new.net is a BAD idea, and the majority of clued network operators, at least, have weighed in against it. It was started by a marketing team that thought they had a clever idea, and made a slick pitch to some VCs. > so far they got a bunch of isps to support them, such as @home, > earthlink, prodigy, and a few others Not exactly ... they may have support, possibly, if they get their act together, and most of the big players will only support new.net if others are already on board. You also have the MAJOR difficulty of new.net only working as a browser plugin (for windows, of course) that changes your system's DNS settings (I don't like the idea of any web-based stuff changing my network setup). The upshot is, as currently designed, new.net only gives 'new' TLDs when you try to browse to them. Meaning you CANNOT SEND EMAIL to any of these 'new' TLDs. Since email is MUCH more prevalent, especially among new domain speculators and vanity domain owners, than website hosting, this is a fatal flaw. > they have some neato tlds like .tech...(i almost had a few neat ones > like compu.tech but while i was registering them they got registered by > someone else ;-o ) I'm ALL in favor of new TLDs, and I can't decide whether ICANN or new.net is less clueless, but neither of them are a good idea. :) > -- > Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com > LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager sfrancis@ [work:] t o n o s . c o m UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you're coming, please email me/the list just so we know how many people to expect on Saturday morning. -Samy -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Fri Jul 27 16:26:52 2001 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meetup in San Diego In-Reply-To: <3B60DA8E.89400F09@LucidX.com>; from CommPort5@LucidX.com on Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 08:05:50PM -0700 References: <3B60DA8E.89400F09@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <20010727142652.C94777@darkuncle.net> On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 08:05:50PM -0700, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] exclaimed: > If you're coming, please email me/the list just so we know how many > people to expect on Saturday morning. see you tomorrow morning :) > -Samy -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager sfrancis@ [work:] t o n o s . c o m UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe somewhere in the North Hollywood/Burbank/Glendale/Pasadena area? -R From ask at valueclick.com Mon Jul 30 00:02:11 2001 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Loop In-Reply-To: <20010725051722.81863.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, James Pitts wrote: > Call me silly, but I sometimes do this: > > while (0==0) { > $condition = &test_stuff(); > last if ($condition); > } it would be much more perl'ish to do while (1) { last unless test_stuff(); } :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than 100M impressions per day, http://valueclick.com From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Mon Jul 30 00:35:11 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: anti-dmca raily tomorrow Message-ID: <3B64F20F.B01E27DB@LucidX.com> This message got bounced...Evan, apperently the address you registered with is different then the one you're sending email with, if you need any help changing it, just email me.. Subject: anti-dmca raily tomorrow From: "Evan Webb" To: Reply-To: ntropy@unre.st X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.1.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey, I just thought I'd give everyone a heads up about the anti-dmca/pro-dmitry sklyarov raily tomorrow. I'm going to go over, (it's at noon, the location is at http://www.freesklyarov.org), with digital camera and poster board. So, I hope to see some of you there! (btw, I've been pretty inactive lately, so most of you probably havent heard from me) Evan Webb evan@unre.st -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Mon Jul 30 12:29:56 2001 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: impromptu la.pm social event: Go Ape! In-Reply-To: <20010729141944.A4872@HRN0717.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU>; from rspier@pobox.com on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 02:19:44PM -0700 References: <20010729141944.A4872@HRN0717.RESNET-STUDENT.UPENN.EDU> Message-ID: <20010730102956.D19694@darkuncle.net> On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 02:19:44PM -0700, Robert Spier exclaimed: > Anyone up for a trip to (the) Planet of the Apes tonight? > > Maybe somewhere in the North Hollywood/Burbank/Glendale/Pasadena area? doh. too late! I already went to Monrovia (east of Pasadena) to see it with the gf and co. Sunday night. Good flick (of course; with Tim Burton and Danny Elfman, you can't go wrong). > -R -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager sfrancis@ [work:] t o n o s . c o m UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have any other questions, please email me. -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 31 15:19:08 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: JPL.pm/LA.pm Joint meeting Message-ID: <3B6712BC.41C87C15@LucidX.com> Also, on September 1st we'll be having a joint meeting with the JPL perl monger since I think it's great for us to meet people from other perl mongers in areas close to us. Ed Wright runs the JPLpm and he's also written the 'Perl Debugged' book which I'm sure some of you have heard of or read. More information will be posted on the page (http://la.pm.org) soon. -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Tue Jul 31 15:23:39 2001 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting this Saturday/Set schedule In-Reply-To: <3B67123C.EB616288@LucidX.com>; from CommPort5@LucidX.com on Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 01:17:00PM -0700 References: <3B67123C.EB616288@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <20010731132339.A25774@darkuncle.net> On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 01:17:00PM -0700, Samy Kamkar [CommPort5] exclaimed: > As said before, there's a meeting this Saturday (on the 4th at 5PM) at > Cafe Pop in South Pasadena. THIS time, I will be there. :) (checking with the gf; several weddings in the next month or two that we have to attend, but barring that, I'll be there.) -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager sfrancis@ [work:] t o n o s . c o m UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(and I already have toorcon on the calendar!) :) -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager sfrancis@ [work:] t o n o s . c o m UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 872 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20010731/30245915/attachment.bin From CommPort5 at LucidX.com Tue Jul 31 17:22:49 2001 From: CommPort5 at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar [CommPort5]) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: [Fwd: LA 2600 meeting.] Message-ID: <3B672FB9.9D9D4A25@LucidX.com> -- Samy Kamkar -- (877) 898-1424 -- CommPort5@LucidX.com LucidX.com / pdump.org / LA.pm.org -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: paul@echelon.nsa.org Subject: LA 2600 meeting. Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:52:48 -0700 Size: 1367 Url: http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20010731/1efc8947/attachment.eml From paul at echelon.nsa.org Tue Jul 31 17:25:39 2001 From: paul at echelon.nsa.org (paul@echelon.nsa.org) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: perl problems Message-ID: root@ns1 ~# PERL bash: PERL: command not found root@ns1 ~# can anyone help!@???? Thanks. From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Tue Jul 31 17:33:15 2001 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: perl problems In-Reply-To: ; from paul@echelon.nsa.org on Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:25:39PM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20010731153314.I25774@darkuncle.net> On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:25:39PM -0700, paul@echelon.nsa.org exclaimed: > root@ns1 ~# PERL > bash: PERL: command not found > root@ns1 ~# > > can anyone help!@???? You're not in Windows-land anymore. Case matters. try 'which perl' and then 'man perl' and then 'perldoc perlfaq' in that order. > Thanks. nice domain spoof, btw. :) -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager sfrancis@ [work:] t o n o s . c o m UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 872 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20010731/3c101acf/attachment.bin From conrad at fringehead.org Tue Jul 31 17:38:10 2001 From: conrad at fringehead.org (Conrad Heiney) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: perl problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010731153810.A7508@pip> Please, God, tell me this is a troll. On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:25:39PM -0700, paul@echelon.nsa.org wrote: > From: > To: > Subject: LA.pm: perl problems > Importance: Normal > > root@ns1 ~# PERL > bash: PERL: command not found > root@ns1 ~# > > can anyone help!@???? > > Thanks. > > -- Conrad Heiney conrad@fringehead.org http://fringehead.org/ ---------- F423 F924 7041 97A9 51C3 99FB C959 BA56 445F FDD4 From paul at echelon.nsa.org Tue Jul 31 17:40:23 2001 From: paul at echelon.nsa.org (paul@echelon.nsa.org) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: perl problems In-Reply-To: <20010731153314.I25774@darkuncle.net> Message-ID: The domain is real, how do you think these emails are coming to me? ;) The previous msg was a joke, I just wanted to send mail to losangeles-pm@happyfunball.pm.org and see if it made it to the list! :) -----Original Message----- From: Scott Francis [mailto:darkuncle@darkuncle.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:33 PM To: paul@echelon.nsa.org Cc: losangeles-pm@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: LA.pm: perl problems On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:25:39PM -0700, paul@echelon.nsa.org exclaimed: > root@ns1 ~# PERL > bash: PERL: command not found > root@ns1 ~# > > can anyone help!@???? You're not in Windows-land anymore. Case matters. try 'which perl' and then 'man perl' and then 'perldoc perlfaq' in that order. > Thanks. nice domain spoof, btw. :) -- Scott Francis darkuncle@ [home:] d a r k u n c l e . n e t Systems/Network Manager sfrancis@ [work:] t o n o s . c o m UNIX | IP networks | security | sysadmin | caffeine | BOFH | general geekery GPG public key 0xCB33CCA7 illum oportet crescere me autem minui From paul at echelon.nsa.org Tue Jul 31 17:50:33 2001 From: paul at echelon.nsa.org (paul@echelon.nsa.org) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: perl problems In-Reply-To: <20010731153810.A7508@pip> Message-ID: I am more of a midget.... not really a "troll" Sorry if I upset you, sometimes humor can upset fragile people. -----Original Message----- From: owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org [mailto:owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org]On Behalf Of Conrad Heiney Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:38 PM To: losangeles-pm@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: LA.pm: perl problems Please, God, tell me this is a troll. On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:25:39PM -0700, paul@echelon.nsa.org wrote: > From: > To: > Subject: LA.pm: perl problems > Importance: Normal > > root@ns1 ~# PERL > bash: PERL: command not found > root@ns1 ~# > > can anyone help!@???? > > Thanks. > > -- Conrad Heiney conrad@fringehead.org http://fringehead.org/ ---------- F423 F924 7041 97A9 51C3 99FB C959 BA56 445F FDD4 From conrad at fringehead.org Tue Jul 31 17:57:34 2001 From: conrad at fringehead.org (Conrad Heiney) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: perl problems In-Reply-To: References: <20010731153810.A7508@pip> Message-ID: <20010731155734.A8025@pip> heh.. not upset, actually laughing my ass off... due to having seen that question a hundred times or more in #perl :) c On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:50:33PM -0700, paul@echelon.nsa.org wrote: > > I am more of a midget.... not really a "troll" > Sorry if I upset you, sometimes humor can upset fragile people. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org [mailto:owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org]On > Behalf Of Conrad Heiney > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:38 PM > To: losangeles-pm@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: LA.pm: perl problems > > > Please, God, tell me this is a troll. > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 03:25:39PM -0700, paul@echelon.nsa.org wrote: > > From: > > To: > > Subject: LA.pm: perl problems > > Importance: Normal > > > > root@ns1 ~# PERL > > bash: PERL: command not found > > root@ns1 ~# > > > > can anyone help!@???? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > -- > Conrad Heiney > conrad@fringehead.org > http://fringehead.org/ > ---------- > > F423 F924 7041 97A9 51C3 99FB C959 BA56 445F FDD4 > > -- Conrad Heiney conrad@fringehead.org http://fringehead.org/ ---------- F423 F924 7041 97A9 51C3 99FB C959 BA56 445F FDD4 From ask at valueclick.com Tue Jul 31 18:14:30 2001 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:02 2004 Subject: LA.pm: perl problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 paul@echelon.nsa.org wrote: > root@ns1 ~# PERL > bash: PERL: command not found > root@ns1 ~# > > can anyone help!@???? http://archive.develooper.com/daily-tips@perl.org/msg00001.html - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do();