From rondal at usa.net Mon Jul 3 02:48:31 2000 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:32 2004 Subject: Tr: golf invite (fwd) Message-ID: <01e201bfe4cc$4c2ad500$c726000a@junior> ----- Original Message ----- From: brian d foy To: ; ; Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 6:52 AM Subject: golf invite (fwd) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 19:11:24 -0400 > From: Uri Guttman > To: brian d foy > Subject: golf invite > > > brian, > > lease forward this to the monger group leaders and ask them to forward > it to their local lists. note, they have first crack at registering and > in a few days i will announce it everywhere else. you can say something > to that effect (and it is in the invitation too). > > thanx, > > uri > > Announcing the First Annual Perl Golf Apocalypse > > Larry Wall, the father of Perl, has observed that the three virtues of a > programmer are laziness, impatience, and hubris. Laziness has been > explained as doing more with less. A variation of that is doing the same > with less. For quite a while the newsgroup comp.lang.perl.misc has had > threads where each poster was trying to solve a basic problem with > shorter code than the previous post. This type of coding competition was > named Perl Golf by Greg Bacon because in both Perl and physical golf the > goal is to finish with the fewest (key)strokes. > > Now the Perl Golf Committee (led by Uri, who conceived the idea) has been > hard at work organizing a Perl Golf Tournament for the 4th Perl Conference > in Monterey this July. > > The Perl Golf Apocalypse (PGA) is for 10 teams, each comprised of up to 3 > Perl hackers. Each team will be given its own computer to use and will > to try to solve a set of simple problems by writing a short piece of > Perl code. Each team must submit its code, which will then be tested and > compared to the answers from the other teams. Each problem (or hole as > we call them) will be given to all the teams at the same time and will > have a time limit (about 5-7 minutes, depending on the hole). There > will be 9 holes in all and after 4 of them the 5 lowest scoring teams > will be cut (just like in real golf tournaments). > > There are three ways to score points on a hole. > > * First, if the code submitted by a team correctly solves the > problem, 1 point is awarded. > > * Second, the correct answer with the fewest keystrokes is awarded 6 > points with the next two runners up getting 5 and 4 points each. > > * Third, the correct answer which was submitted the earliest, is > awarded 3 points with the next two runners up getting 2 and 1 points > each. > > So a team can earn a maximum of 10 points on one hole. It is important > to note that the execution speed of the code is not a factor in scoring. > > The holes will be judged by a Perl script created by us. It will check > the correctness of all the submissions, rank them by the shortest code > and also rank them by the timestamps on the submitted answer files. Then > the script will award points and keep track of scores for each > team. Another script will be used by the commentators to display the > current point totals for the teams, the scoring for a given hole and the > actual code submitted by the teams. > > After all the holes are finished, the teams will be ranked by score, and > from highest to lowest, they will be allowed to choose their prizes. The > prize list includes computers, refrigerators stuffed with booty, cruise > discounts, cdroms, books, clothing, etc. Everyone who enters the > tournament is guaranteed a prize. > > Our two guests, Chip Salzenberg and Chris Nandor will provide > an entertaining commentary on the proceedings. > > > This invitation is being sent to the Perl Mongers in advance of other > groups to give you a first chance to register to play in the PGA. > Groups of 3 or 2 registering together as a team will be given preference > over single entrants, so get your local monger group to enter a team. > > Send your registration request to golf@sysarch.com with this > information: > > Monger Affiliation > Team Name > Member Count > Real name and email for each team member > > If you are a single entrant, do you want us to put you on a > team? > > Optionally, tell us your level of perl experience > > You can also visit the Perl Golf page at > http://www.sysarch.com/perl/golf/ which has the PGA rules and > invitation, the prize and sponsor list, a real golfing thread from > c.l.p.misc, and more. > > The Perl Golf Apocalypse Team > > Uri Guttman > Brand Hilton > Ronald Kimball > Larry Rosler > Damian Conway > > > > -- > Uri Guttman --------- uri@sysarch.com ---------- http://www.sysarch.com > SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting > The Perl Books Page ----------- http://www.sysarch.com/cgi-bin/perl_books > The Best Search Engine on the Net ---------- http://www.northernlight.com > > > **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** > **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe groups" to majordomo@lists.pm.org** From rondal at usa.net Wed Jul 5 01:59:53 2000 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:32 2004 Subject: yapc europe Message-ID: <004001bfe64e$a1166420$c726000a@junior> Dear Perl Mongers, YAPC (Yet Another Perl Conference) will be held around 22-24 September 2000 in London. The exact program is not known yet. For more information, visit www.yapc.org/Europe/ If some of you are interested by attending this low cost conference (around ?35), a common organisation (travel, accomodation) could be put in place. Regards, Stephane From rondal at usa.net Wed Jul 12 02:25:59 2000 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:32 2004 Subject: archiving the list Message-ID: <007a01bfebd2$9403cdc0$c726000a@junior> I'm thinking about archiving this list on a server such as www.mail-archive.com Please note that this will make all the list content public. Any objections before I proceed? Regards, Stephane Soon to come: the announce of our first meeting From rondal at usa.net Fri Jul 14 07:05:43 2000 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:32 2004 Subject: message archives Message-ID: <003901bfed8c$5971d560$c726000a@junior> This message serves both as an announcment message as well as a test message. If everything runs smoothly, messages sent to this mailing list will be archived on www.mail-archive.com from now on. Have a look at this great site, searching for liege-pm-list. Following the mail archive faq, the update interval ranges from a few hours to a several days. From a VA Linux Systems machine, I expect it to be a more in the hours range than in the days range ;-) Also, if you don't want your message to be archived, add a 'X-No-Archive: yes' or a 'Restrict: no-external-archive' header to the mail you're sending. Use this sparingly. Regards, Stephane From rondal at usa.net Mon Jul 17 08:08:50 2000 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:32 2004 Subject: first meeting announced Message-ID: <014601bfeff0$8e05d680$c726000a@junior> Dear Perl Mongers, The time has come to set up our first meeting. Following the preferences some of you submitted me, I ended up with the following date: Thursday August 3 2000, around 19h30 (exact time to be defined) I've not chosen the exact place of the meeting yet, but I was thinking about a pub followed by a 'local-food' restaurant here in Liege. (I'm thinking about As Ouhes, a Robert Lesenne's restaurant) Please let me know asap who will be attending and who will not as the choice of the restaurant will depend on how many mongers will be present. Last but not least, if the proposed date does not suit you, let me know. Better to go through all the hassle to find another date that will suit everybody than not having enough attendees for this meeting. I will not be able to please everyone, but at least I can try. Regards, Stephane From rondal at usa.net Thu Jul 20 11:42:07 2000 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:32 2004 Subject: Liege.pm first meeting - date changed Message-ID: <20000720094207.9132.qmail@nw178.netaddress.usa.net> To accomodate some of your's busy schedule, I've been asked to move the meeting on a week-end day. Thus I propose Friday 4 or Saturday 5. Let me know which day best suits you. If both days are ok, let me know as well as it will give me greater flexibility on chosing the final date. I hope that this will not raise new problems. If it does, please inform me and we'll try to find an arrangement that suits everybody. This may look a bit sketchy, but I think it is needed in order to get a maximum of attendees to this first meeting. 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(fwd) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Size: 2191 Url: http://mail.pm.org/archives/liege-pm/attachments/20000725/a67e441e/attachment.eml From rondal at usa.net Wed Jul 26 08:41:01 2000 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:32 2004 Subject: Fwd: [Back issues of TPJ available (for shipping costs)] Message-ID: <20000726064101.16569.qmail@nwcst292.netaddress.usa.net> Back issues of TPJ available (for shipping costs) ------------------------------------------------- TPJ is The Perl Journal (www.tpj.com) If some of you are interested, met me know. We can try to arrange something. Regards, Stephane ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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Regards, Stephane ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From rondal at usa.net Fri Jul 28 05:28:58 2000 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:32 2004 Subject: Liege.pm - date of the first meeting Message-ID: <027501bff87f$e3ac05e0$c726000a@junior> Dear Perl Mongers, Following your feedback, the date of our first meeting has been fixed to Friday August 4 2000, 19h30. I will keep you posted on the exact place, but Liege will be the city where we'll be meeting. So far 5 people have shown strong interests in this meeting. Not too bad for a first time. Some important groups have started smaller than this. Don't forget to confirm your presence. Regards, Stephane