From rbowen at rcbowen.com Tue Sep 5 20:30:58 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:52 2004 Subject: LPM: parsing Message-ID: <39B59E52.3FAFCAEE@rcbowen.com> Frank sent this to the list from somewhere other than his subscribed address: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:26:23 -0400 From: Frank Price To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: parsing Message-ID: <20000905182623.B24522@latitude> Mail-Followup-To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Hi Lexpm, I need a parser. I want to parse text with multiline and possibly nested delimiters (like HTML tags but not). I looked at Parse::RecDescent but it looks way more than I want. Essentially, I just want to say "here's my delimiter, now give me the stuff it delimits." Any suggestions? -Frank. -- Frank Price | fprice@upended.org | www.upended.org/fprice/ GPG key: www.upended.org/fprice/gpg.asc | E Pluribus Unix From janine at emazing.com Tue Sep 5 20:43:00 2000 From: janine at emazing.com (Janine) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:52 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: parsing In-Reply-To: <39B59E52.3FAFCAEE@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: What do you mean by "nested delimiters"? Can you give an example? Janine > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org > [mailto:owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of Rich Bowen > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 9:31 PM > To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: LPM: parsing > > > Frank sent this to the list from somewhere other than his subscribed > address: > > > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:26:23 -0400 > From: Frank Price > To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: parsing > Message-ID: <20000905182623.B24522@latitude> > Mail-Followup-To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i > > Hi Lexpm, > > I need a parser. I want to parse text with multiline and possibly > nested > delimiters (like HTML tags but not). I looked at Parse::RecDescent > but it looks way more than I want. Essentially, I just want to say > "here's my delimiter, now give me the stuff it delimits." Any > suggestions? > > -Frank. > -- > Frank Price | fprice@upended.org | www.upended.org/fprice/ > GPG key: www.upended.org/fprice/gpg.asc | E Pluribus Unix > From rbowen at rcbowen.com Tue Sep 5 20:52:30 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:52 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: parsing References: Message-ID: <39B5A35E.76DB72F6@rcbowen.com> Janine wrote: > > What do you mean by "nested delimiters"? Can you give an example? I'm guessing something like < one < two > > The <> pairs are nested. Rich From hempy at ket.org Tue Sep 5 21:27:01 2000 From: hempy at ket.org (David Hempy) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:52 2004 Subject: LPM: parsing In-Reply-To: <39B59E52.3FAFCAEE@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000905222257.0252fd98@mail.ket.org> At 09:30 PM 9/5/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Lexpm, > >I need a parser. I want to parse text with multiline and possibly >nested >delimiters (like HTML tags but not). I looked at Parse::RecDescent >but it looks way more than I want. Essentially, I just want to say >"here's my delimiter, now give me the stuff it delimits." Any >suggestions? > >-Frank. >-- >Frank Price | fprice@upended.org | www.upended.org/fprice/ >GPG key: www.upended.org/fprice/gpg.asc | E Pluribus Unix If you need to parse things like the following two lines consisting of three values each... Janine,Louisville,"dog, cat",purple Dave,Lexington,"dogs, cats, and hairballs",red ...you can use Text:CSV. It will let you specify your own delimiters. I thing you can change the record delimiter (ie. linefeed) to parse multiline stuff. Will that do what you need? -dave -- David Hempy Internet Database Administrator Kentucky Educational Television -- (859)258-7164 -- (800)333-9764 From gcasillo at ket.org Wed Sep 6 10:50:43 2000 From: gcasillo at ket.org (Gregg Casillo) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:52 2004 Subject: LPM: Specify pop-up window size using CGI.pm Message-ID: <39B667D3.D3ECDDF8@ket.org> >From a script, I want to open a pop-up window (i.e. new instance of a browser window) with a specific size. I know I can do this using JavaScript with something like this: window.open('width=320,height=240'); Is there a way to specify the height and width of a new browser window using CGI.pm or other Perl methods? Thanks, Gregg Casillo Web Programmer, KET From hempy at ket.org Wed Sep 6 12:12:22 2000 From: hempy at ket.org (David Hempy) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:52 2004 Subject: LPM: Specify pop-up window size using CGI.pm In-Reply-To: <39B667D3.D3ECDDF8@ket.org> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000906130716.02557f08@mail.ket.org> At 11:50 AM 9/6/2000 -0400, you wrote: > From a script, I want to open a pop-up window (i.e. new instance of a >browser window) with a specific size. I know I can do this using >JavaScript with something like this: > >window.open('width=320,height=240'); > >Is there a way to specify the height and width of a new browser window >using CGI.pm or other Perl methods? Hmm...maybe I don't understand the problem... In your cgi script running on the server, let's say you are just print-ing the html page, including its embedded javascript: $win_w = 100; $win_h = 150; print "window.open('width=$win_w,height=$win_h');"; By the time it gets to the browser, it will be irrelevant that the javascript code was generated by a script or from a flat file. ...but I feel like that's not what you were looking for... -dave -- David Hempy Internet Database Administrator Kentucky Educational Television -- (859)258-7164 -- (800)333-9764 From fprice at upended.org Thu Sep 7 12:18:19 2000 From: fprice at upended.org (Frank Price) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:52 2004 Subject: LPM: parsing In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000905222257.0252fd98@mail.ket.org>; from hempy@ket.org on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:27:01PM -0400 References: <39B59E52.3FAFCAEE@rcbowen.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000905222257.0252fd98@mail.ket.org> Message-ID: <20000907131819.E25376@latitude.mis.net> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:27:01PM -0400, David Hempy wrote: > At 09:30 PM 9/5/2000 -0400, you wrote: > > If you need to parse things like the following two lines consisting of > three values each... > > Janine,Louisville,"dog, cat",purple > Dave,Lexington,"dogs, cats, and hairballs",red > > ...you can use Text:CSV. It will let you specify your own delimiters. I > thing you can change the record delimiter (ie. linefeed) to parse multiline > stuff. > > Will that do what you need? I think so, if my delims are commas. I was looking at Text::Balanced last night and it appears closest to what I want. It has it's own CPAN entry but comes bundled with Parse::RecDescent. I haven't made it work yet but since it's by That Guru Damian Conway it must be good :-) BTW, if anyone is interested in a neat little paper by Damian on parsing, a reprint from the Perl Journal is online at http://search.cpan.org/doc/DCONWAY/Parse-RecDescent-1.79/tutorial/tutorial.html -Frank. -- Frank Price | fprice@upended.org | www.upended.org/fprice/ GPG key: www.upended.org/fprice/gpg.asc | E Pluribus Unix From fprice at upended.org Thu Sep 7 12:28:45 2000 From: fprice at upended.org (Frank Price) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:52 2004 Subject: LPM: hiding passwords in scripts Message-ID: <20000907132845.F25376@latitude.mis.net> Hi Lexpm, [This question is more general than just perl; please excuse :-] Sometimes I write scripts which require a username/password for authentication. E.g., using Net::Telnet it needs to login as a user, or login to a POP server, or login to a DB etc. If I want the script to be completely automated then it needs to store the password somehow. I'm uncomfortable storing the pw in cleartext in the script itself. I'm even uncomfortable storing it as cleartext in a config file readable only by the invoking user. Storing it encrypted seems ideal, but of course then the problem is decrypting it, since the script (really the server on the other side) requires the pw in cleartext. The crypt() call will encrypt it just fine but can't decrypt an encrypted string. Anyone know of a good solution to this problem? If there's a solution but no perl module yet, there's a project for us! Thanks, -Frank. -- Frank Price | fprice@upended.org | www.upended.org/fprice/ GPG key: www.upended.org/fprice/gpg.asc | E Pluribus Unix From sungo at earthling.net Thu Sep 7 12:50:49 2000 From: sungo at earthling.net (sungo@earthling.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: hiding passwords in scripts In-Reply-To: <20000907132845.F25376@latitude.mis.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Frank Price wrote: > Storing it encrypted seems ideal, but of course then the problem is > decrypting it, since the script (really the server on the other side) > requires the pw in cleartext. The crypt() call will encrypt it just > fine but can't decrypt an encrypted string. > > Anyone know of a good solution to this problem? If there's a solution > but no perl module yet, there's a project for us! the rsa algorithm was released into the public domain yesterday. its a public/secret key dealie like pgp but a lot more secure. no, there's no perl module for it yet. encryption is deep magic. but hey, if someone can explain it to me monosyllabically enough for me to grok it, i'm all for trying :) -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From repett0 at sac.uky.edu Thu Sep 7 13:41:54 2000 From: repett0 at sac.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: offtopic -- meeting and group interaction Message-ID: My name is Ron Petty from UKLUG and UK ACM. We have finally started producing some projects...(soon to all be documented on the web site) http://www.uklug.net. I know this isn't perl related, but listen before you flame me. I have managed to final meet some of your upper crust and like what your group is doing. Our membership appears to be skyrocking lately. And I have a semi-formal proposal for you. In the hopes of making UK a top 20 research institution we (UKLUG & ACM) are trying to give students and kentucky (anyone) citizens some new oppurtunities(misspelled). In a nutshell we would like to have all the technology groups in the state have some kind of formal correspodence and shared projects. We know this isn't for everyone but.... Someone in your group mentioned maybe hosting a joint conference. (YES WERE FOR THAT). The possibilities are endless. We dont per say have a set aggenda. We thought for about a year and came to the conclusion. If we are going to work with all the groups in Kentucky everyone should have a say. So for a start we would like to hear your interest in such ativities. And if so help us form a committee(members from all groups) to start steering this in the right direction. Thanks Ron Petty From hempy at ket.org Thu Sep 7 14:13:24 2000 From: hempy at ket.org (David Hempy) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: offtopic -- meeting and group interaction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000907151034.024fb928@mail.ket.org> At 02:41 PM 9/7/2000 -0400, you wrote: >In the hopes of making UK a top 20 research institution we (UKLUG & ACM) >are trying to give students and kentucky (anyone) citizens some new >oppurtunities(misspelled). In a nutshell we would like to have all the >technology groups in the state have some kind of formal correspodence and >shared projects. >... >So for a start we would like to hear your interest in such ativities. And >if so help us form a committee(members from all groups) to start steering >this in the right direction. Sounds like an exciting project, Ron. You might consider tapping into CKCS's (Central Kentucky Computer Society) breadth. I believe they quite widely recognized in the region, with subgroups reflecting many aspects of computing. Paul Stackhouse can offer more insight on CKCS than I can. -dave -- David Hempy Internet Database Administrator Kentucky Educational Television -- (859)258-7164 -- (800)333-9764 From rbowen at rcbowen.com Thu Sep 7 16:09:09 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: offtopic -- meeting and group interaction References: Message-ID: <39B803F5.FF4C73DF@rcbowen.com> ... > In the hopes of making UK a top 20 research institution we (UKLUG & ACM) > are trying to give students and kentucky (anyone) citizens some new > oppurtunities(misspelled). In a nutshell we would like to have all the > technology groups in the state have some kind of formal correspodence and > shared projects. We know this isn't for everyone but.... I'm all for this. Making Kentucky a serious consideration for start-up technology companies who would otherwise go to San Jose is a noble, and doable, ambition. Having this movement start with the University, rather than by businesses, is the right way to go. Having said that, having the endorsement and support of Dr Lee Todd (CEO, DataBeam Corporation) would be a valuable thing in this sort of endeavor. Hey, any of you DataBeam folks still on this list? Can we get Dr Todd's ear on this? > Someone in your group mentioned maybe hosting a joint conference. (YES > WERE FOR THAT). The possibilities are endless. We dont per say have a set > aggenda. We thought for about a year and came to the conclusion. If we > are going to work with all the groups in Kentucky everyone should have a > say. > > So for a start we would like to hear your interest in such ativities. And > if so help us form a committee(members from all groups) to start steering > this in the right direction. If you're looking for volunteers, I would be willing to volunteer. Or at least find someone else to volunteer. This sort of thing is a great idea, and there are a lot of cool things that we could do with it. And there's a Perl-centric organization (YAS) that is focused on making things like this happen, and providing the resources for doing it well. Not sure if they'd be interested, but it's a good place to get ideas at the very least. There are a few of us within the PM that talked about a conference, some time ago, but we've just never gathered the steam to do this. Would be very cool. Rich From janine at emazing.com Fri Sep 8 09:52:38 2000 From: janine at emazing.com (Janine) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: offtopic -- meeting and group interaction In-Reply-To: <39B803F5.FF4C73DF@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: > > So for a start we would like to hear your interest in such ativities. And > > if so help us form a committee(members from all groups) to start steering > > this in the right direction. You'll find some volunteers in Louisville. We had a meeting last night, and I mentioned the idea of a regional conference - it was well received. Janine From pstackhouse at ket.org Fri Sep 8 12:01:36 2000 From: pstackhouse at ket.org (Paul Stackhouse) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: offtopic -- meeting and group interaction References: <39B803F5.FF4C73DF@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: <39B91B70.A862D43B@ket.org> > ... > > In the hopes of making UK a top 20 research institution we (UKLUG & ACM) > > are trying to give students and kentucky (anyone) citizens some new > > oppurtunities(misspelled). In a nutshell we would like to have all the > > technology groups in the state have some kind of formal correspodence and > > shared projects. We know this isn't for everyone but.... I passed a copy of your original message to the current president of the Central Kentucky Computer Society - Jim McCormick But a note directly to him would be appreciated, I'm sure. > ... > I'm all for this. Making Kentucky a serious consideration for start-up > technology companies who would otherwise go to San Jose is a noble, and > doable, ambition. Having this movement start with the University, rather > than by businesses, is the right way to go. > > Having said that, having the endorsement and support of Dr Lee Todd > (CEO, DataBeam Corporation) would be a valuable thing in this sort of > endeavor. Two other names: Bruce (?) Cobb (founder of the Cobb Group, and a techno big-wig in Louisville) and Ric Manning of the C-J -paul -- Paul Stackhouse Webmaster Kentucky Educational TV Voice: 859-258-7135 600 Cooper Drive Fax: 859-258-7399 Lexington, KY 40502 http://www.ket.org From hempy at ket.org Fri Sep 8 15:48:50 2000 From: hempy at ket.org (David Hempy) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: offtopic -- meeting and group interaction In-Reply-To: <39B803F5.FF4C73DF@rcbowen.com> References: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000908164559.027131f0@mail.ket.org> At 05:09 PM 9/7/2000 -0400, you wrote: >... > >Having said that, having the endorsement and support of Dr Lee Todd >(CEO, DataBeam Corporation) would be a valuable thing in this sort of >endeavor. Hey, any of you DataBeam folks still on this list? Can we get >Dr Todd's ear on this? > As if on cue, I got an invitation today to attend Dr. Todd's presentation, "Central Kentucky's Transformation to a High Technology Center." October 3rd at UK. I can't make it, but would gladly yield my invite to anyone from the group who would like to go. I'm not sure if it really requires an invitation to attend, but they do ask for a RSVP, so it's hard to say. More info at 258-9395 -dave -- David Hempy Internet Database Administrator Kentucky Educational Television -- (859)258-7164 -- (800)333-9764 From dpitts at mk.net Sat Sep 9 08:37:26 2000 From: dpitts at mk.net (David Pitts) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: offtopic -- meeting and group interaction References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000908164559.027131f0@mail.ket.org> Message-ID: <01e201c01a63$181b4a20$7801a8c0@adverb.com> Ooo...Ooo ...Oooo Can I? Huh? Huh? Huh? Can I? Thanks, David David Pitts President, Pitts Technical Resources, Inc (859) 971-2255 www.dpitts.com dpitts@mk.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hempy" To: Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 4:48 PM Subject: Re: LPM: offtopic -- meeting and group interaction > At 05:09 PM 9/7/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >... > > > >Having said that, having the endorsement and support of Dr Lee Todd > >(CEO, DataBeam Corporation) would be a valuable thing in this sort of > >endeavor. Hey, any of you DataBeam folks still on this list? Can we get > >Dr Todd's ear on this? > > > > As if on cue, I got an invitation today to attend Dr. Todd's presentation, > "Central Kentucky's Transformation to a High Technology Center." October > 3rd at UK. > > I can't make it, but would gladly yield my invite to anyone from the group > who would like to go. I'm not sure if it really requires an invitation to > attend, but they do ask for a RSVP, so it's hard to say. > > More info at 258-9395 > > > -dave > > > -- > David Hempy > Internet Database Administrator > Kentucky Educational Television > -- (859)258-7164 -- (800)333-9764 > > > From rbowen at rcbowen.com Mon Sep 11 10:00:55 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Tonight's meeting Message-ID: <39BCF3A7.60D62EC0@rcbowen.com> Just a reminder that this evening we will be discussing CGI.pm at LPM. And, since I still have not regained posession of my CGI.pm book, I expect that we will be reading documentation. If you prefer to have paper copies, please print yourself up something. Otherwise, we will have docs onscreen, and will be working through whatever amuses people, and probably even looking at some of the icky parts of the code. Please bring your brain, since I don't expect to actually prepare something. --Rich From repett0 at sac.uky.edu Mon Sep 11 17:51:18 2000 From: repett0 at sac.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: A Call To Greatness Message-ID: If you didn't get this please read it. I believe we need to attend some of these events... Ill be talking to Pres. Wethington in a coupld of weeks with a semi formal proposal on how to make student/indusrty/uk/kentucky technology stronger. If you would like to help me with this, Ill be setting a time beginning of next week to have a meeting, if not we can meet before and after. Ron Petty ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:35:43 EDT From: "Charles T. Wethington, Jr." Reply-To: @unspecified-domain To: "Faculty, Staff, and Students" Subject: A Call To Greatness On Thursday, we will begin celebrating the launch of our first comprehensive fund-raising campaign titled "A Call To Greatness." The largest effort of its kind in the state's history, this campaign will generate many of the resources UK needs to become the top-20 public institution to which we aspire. In recognition of the heart and soul of this campaign, we begin our kick-off festivities with a picnic celebration for the University family-all faculty, staff and students. On Friday, take advantage of some 100 academic showcases that offer a glimpse of your University at work. As we unite like never before in pursuit of greatness, I invite your participation in celebrating this extraordinary occasion at UK. Please, join us. Campaign Kick-Off Events for the University Family: Thursday, September 14 11 a.m. - 2 p.m. President's Picnic for students, faculty and staff; Botanical Gardens and Student Center patio. 8 p.m. The Ladies of Note featuring Lainie Kazan, Melba Moore and Nnenna Freelon; Singletary Center for the Arts. This is a world premiere performance as these jazz greats combine for their first national tour together. Tickets available through UK Student Center Ticket Office (859) 257-8427. Friday, September 15 1:30 -- 5 p.m. Academic Showcases: Immediately following the official campaign goal announcement, the campus opens its doors to everyone! Visit and participate in nearly 100 events hosted by colleges and programs that highlight the academic and research excellence prevalent at the University. Free and open to the public. Saturday, September 16 9 a.m. - noon. Academic Showcases continue in some colleges. Check individual colleges for schedules. Free and open to the public. 6 p.m. UK vs. Indiana, Commonwealth Stadium. A spectacular halftime show will feature all things great about the University of Kentucky. Ticket information through the UK Athletics Association (859) 257-CATS or 1-800-928-CATS. Sunday, September 17 2 p.m. UK Art Museum Director's Forum, Singletary Center for the Arts. A celebration of the 25th anniversary of the exceptional UK Art Museum. Open to the public. 3 p.m. UK Symphony Orchestra, Singletary Center for the Arts. Hear the fantastic sound of the Symphony Orchestra and learn firsthand the level of excellence that abounds at UK. Free and open to the public. From dpitts at mk.net Mon Sep 11 21:32:44 2000 From: dpitts at mk.net (David Pitts) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Re: Tonight's meeting References: <39BCF3A7.60D62EC0@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: <001501c01c61$bd852940$7801a8c0@adverb.com> This must be that note that I did not get. Sorry... Rich, I can get you your book back whenever you say the word. Thanks, David David Pitts President, Pitts Technical Resources, Inc (859) 971-2255 www.dpitts.com dpitts@mk.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Bowen" To: "Lexington Perl Mongers" Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: LPM: Tonight's meeting > Just a reminder that this evening we will be discussing CGI.pm at LPM. > And, since I still have not regained posession of my CGI.pm book, I > expect that we will be reading documentation. If you prefer to have > paper copies, please print yourself up something. Otherwise, we will > have docs onscreen, and will be working through whatever amuses people, > and probably even looking at some of the icky parts of the code. Please > bring your brain, since I don't expect to actually prepare something. > > --Rich > From rbowen at rcbowen.com Mon Sep 11 21:37:21 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Next month's meeting Message-ID: <39BD96E1.4D812FC3@rcbowen.com> Next month I will not be in attendance at Perl Mongers. Someone else needs to do whatever planning and cajoling is necessary to get people to attend, and conjure up a topic of discussion. This time next month I will be getting ready to go to London for a few days, and I expect I'll be a little busy. --Rich From janine at emazing.com Tue Sep 12 11:23:29 2000 From: janine at emazing.com (Janine) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Next month's meeting In-Reply-To: <39BD96E1.4D812FC3@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: What did everyone think about last night's CGI.pm discussion? Do we want to try that again, maybe with a different module? Janine > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org > [mailto:owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of Rich Bowen > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:37 PM > To: Lexington Perl Mongers > Subject: LPM: Next month's meeting > > > Next month I will not be in attendance at Perl Mongers. Someone else > needs to do whatever planning and cajoling is necessary to get people to > attend, and conjure up a topic of discussion. This time next month I > will be getting ready to go to London for a few days, and I expect I'll > be a little busy. > > --Rich > > From rbowen at rcbowen.com Tue Sep 12 20:04:55 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Next month's meeting References: Message-ID: <39BED2B7.E7F63468@rcbowen.com> Janine wrote: > > What did everyone think about last night's CGI.pm discussion? Do we want to try that again, maybe with a different module? I thought it was OK, but could have used a leader (I tried to steer, but I did not lead) and a little more preparation. I think that there are probably more things that one could do with CGI.pm, but perhaps we should move on. Tk was mentioned as a possible module to look at. LWP might be good. Quantum::Superpositions might be fun. Rich From fprice at upended.org Tue Sep 12 21:20:14 2000 From: fprice at upended.org (Frank Price) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Next month's meeting In-Reply-To: <39BED2B7.E7F63468@rcbowen.com>; from rbowen@rcbowen.com on Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 09:04:55PM -0400 References: <39BED2B7.E7F63468@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: <20000912222014.A28529@latitude.mis.net> On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 09:04:55PM -0400, Rich Bowen wrote: > Janine wrote: > > > > What did everyone think about last night's CGI.pm discussion? Do we want to try that again, maybe with a different module? > > I thought it was OK, but could have used a leader (I tried to steer, but > I did not lead) and a little more preparation. I think that there are > probably more things that one could do with CGI.pm, but perhaps we > should move on. I'll try to do better next time :-) My vote is to pick a simpler and shorter module for next time, until we get good at picking these apart. CGI is just too huge. > Tk was mentioned as a possible module to look at. LWP might be good. > Quantum::Superpositions might be fun. I vote for one of the Net:: ones. -Frank. -- Frank Price | fprice@upended.org | www.upended.org/fprice/ GPG key: www.upended.org/fprice/gpg.asc | E Pluribus Unix From dpitts at mk.net Tue Sep 12 21:59:47 2000 From: dpitts at mk.net (David Pitts) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Re: RE: Next month's meeting References: Message-ID: <023101c01d2e$ad2ecb00$7801a8c0@adverb.com> I thought it was a good idea. I would have liked to have been a little more prepared - which was my fault. I think that this would be a good trend to set. $0.02 Thanks, David David Pitts President, Pitts Technical Resources, Inc (859) 971-2255 www.dpitts.com dpitts@mk.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janine" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 12:23 PM Subject: LPM: RE: Next month's meeting > What did everyone think about last night's CGI.pm discussion? Do we want to try that again, maybe with a different module? > > Janine > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org > > [mailto:owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of Rich Bowen > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:37 PM > > To: Lexington Perl Mongers > > Subject: LPM: Next month's meeting > > > > > > Next month I will not be in attendance at Perl Mongers. Someone else > > needs to do whatever planning and cajoling is necessary to get people to > > attend, and conjure up a topic of discussion. This time next month I > > will be getting ready to go to London for a few days, and I expect I'll > > be a little busy. > > > > --Rich > > > > > From rbowen at rcbowen.com Wed Sep 13 10:11:31 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Next Month's Meeting Message-ID: <20000913111131.A7442@rcbowen.com> Sent from a non-subscribed address ----- Forwarded message from owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org ----- Reply-To: From: "Janine Ladick" To: Subject: RE: LPM: RE: Next month's meeting Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:56:36 -0400 Here's one of my two cents - Rich wrote: > > I thought it was OK, but could have used a leader (I tried to steer, but > > I did not lead) and a little more preparation. I think that there are > > probably more things that one could do with CGI.pm, but perhaps we > > should move on. I thought the meeting went well. I'm a big fan of letting the discussion have a life of its own. In the Louisville group I aim to be a moderator rather than a leader. I've found that if I do a lot of preparation and show up with an agenda, people expect me to teach them something and they participate less. So to encourage participation, only our newbie sessions have structure. And here's the other - Frank wrote: > My vote is to pick a simpler and shorter module for next time, until > we get good at picking these apart. CGI is just too huge. Yeah, CGI is big, but it's also full of interesting stuff. Maybe we could come back to it at a later time, after we "get good" by practicing on smaller modules. Janine ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Director of Web Application Development - The Creative Group http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ Author - Apache Server Unleashed - http://apacheunleashed.com/ From gcasillo at ket.org Wed Sep 13 12:48:56 2000 From: gcasillo at ket.org (Gregg Casillo) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Next month's meeting References: <39BD96E1.4D812FC3@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: <39BFBE07.78A34F08@ket.org> I regret to inform the group that our current meeting time and place have been trumped by an in-house, KET group. Here's what I've been told: I've run this by John and our solution was to ask you to move your meeting time to 6:30 rather than 6:00 on the second Monday, OR, to a different day. Since the German Team staff meeting is an inhouse based meeting, it takes precedence over any out-of-house meetings. ...The room is not used after 5 p.m. by any group Tuesday-Sunday. So, our options at KET are as follows: 1) meet at 6:00 (or another time) on a different day of the week 2) meet at 6:30 on the same day (second Monday of month) 3) meet elsewhere Personally, I'd rather not meet at 6:30 since our meetings generally run until 8:00 already. Any later would be tough for me. Are there any other places suitable for our meetings? Since my manager requires either myself or Dave Hempy to be there for the duration of the meeting, I feel a little burdened especially if I have something pressing to work on during or around our meeting. I think Dave feels the same way. As far as meeting ideas, someone mentioned the Net:: modules. I would love to look over any of the Net modules, especially Net::SMTP. Gregg Casillo Web Programmer, KET From janine at emazing.com Wed Sep 13 13:03:10 2000 From: janine at emazing.com (Janine) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Next month's meeting In-Reply-To: <39BFBE07.78A34F08@ket.org> Message-ID: What about moving the meeting time back to 6:30 pm and skipping the group meal? That should make the meeting a bit shorter, which might be helpful for Gregg and Dave. The later start will also make it a bit easier for me to get there on time. Janine > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org > [mailto:owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of Gregg Casillo > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:49 PM > To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: LPM: Next month's meeting > > > I regret to inform the group that our current meeting time and place have > been trumped by an in-house, KET group. Here's what I've been told: > > > I've run this by John and our solution was to ask you to move your > meeting time to 6:30 rather than 6:00 on the second Monday, OR, to a > different day. Since the German Team staff meeting is an inhouse based > meeting, it takes precedence over any out-of-house meetings. > ...The room is not used after 5 p.m. by any group Tuesday-Sunday. > > > So, our options at KET are as follows: > 1) meet at 6:00 (or another time) on a different day of the week > 2) meet at 6:30 on the same day (second Monday of month) > 3) meet elsewhere > > Personally, I'd rather not meet at 6:30 since our meetings generally run > until 8:00 already. Any later would be tough for me. Are there any other > places suitable for our meetings? Since my manager requires either myself or > Dave Hempy to be there for the duration of the meeting, I feel a little > burdened especially if I have something pressing to work on during or around > our meeting. I think Dave feels the same way. > > As far as meeting ideas, someone mentioned the Net:: modules. I would love > to look over any of the Net modules, especially Net::SMTP. > > Gregg Casillo > Web Programmer, KET > > > From repett0 at sac.uky.edu Wed Sep 13 13:36:00 2000 From: repett0 at sac.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Next month's meeting In-Reply-To: <39BFBE07.78A34F08@ket.org> Message-ID: anyone wanna have it on campus (UK). If so I can DIFFENTLY find a place.. Ron On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Gregg Casillo wrote: > I regret to inform the group that our current meeting time and place have > been trumped by an in-house, KET group. Here's what I've been told: > > > I've run this by John and our solution was to ask you to move your > meeting time to 6:30 rather than 6:00 on the second Monday, OR, to a > different day. Since the German Team staff meeting is an inhouse based > meeting, it takes precedence over any out-of-house meetings. > ...The room is not used after 5 p.m. by any group Tuesday-Sunday. > > > So, our options at KET are as follows: > 1) meet at 6:00 (or another time) on a different day of the week > 2) meet at 6:30 on the same day (second Monday of month) > 3) meet elsewhere > > Personally, I'd rather not meet at 6:30 since our meetings generally run > until 8:00 already. Any later would be tough for me. Are there any other > places suitable for our meetings? Since my manager requires either myself or > Dave Hempy to be there for the duration of the meeting, I feel a little > burdened especially if I have something pressing to work on during or around > our meeting. I think Dave feels the same way. > > As far as meeting ideas, someone mentioned the Net:: modules. I would love > to look over any of the Net modules, especially Net::SMTP. > > Gregg Casillo > Web Programmer, KET > > > From fprice at upended.org Wed Sep 13 15:50:51 2000 From: fprice at upended.org (Frank Price) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Next month's meeting In-Reply-To: ; from janine@emazing.com on Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 02:03:10PM -0400 References: <39BFBE07.78A34F08@ket.org> Message-ID: <20000913165051.A29211@latitude.mis.net> On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 02:03:10PM -0400, Janine wrote: > What about moving the meeting time back to 6:30 pm and skipping the > group meal? That should make the meeting a bit shorter, which might > be helpful for Gregg and Dave. The later start will also make it a > bit easier for me to get there on time. I'm ok with 6:30, and I already know how to find KET so that's a plus. While we're talking about it, I'd like to thank Dave and Gregg and the KET folks for the access to a great meeting place. Whether or not we continue there, it's much nicer than the crufty basements where some groups I've been in met :-) -Frank. -- Frank Price | fprice@upended.org | www.upended.org/fprice/ GPG key: www.upended.org/fprice/gpg.asc | E Pluribus Unix From rbowen at rcbowen.com Thu Sep 14 08:05:08 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Yet another Non-member submission Message-ID: <39C0CD04.E4762840@rcbowen.com> From: Ronald Edward Petty To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: UKACM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Alright, this is not for everyone so I appologize :( Sorry I couldn't make the meeting this time. I will try again. This monday we are having the first ACM meeting. http://www.cslab.uky.edu/~repett0/ACM.html If whoever was interested in forming a larger group and would like to talk about hosting regional conferences, please come. We can talk at the end of the meeting, and I would like to let the freshmen and others now that there is an active technology community in Lexington and Kentucky, not just UK. So if you can please come, if not, just come to see potential new hires for your companies :) Ron Petty ACM president Perl user sometimes :( From tom at ichthus.org Sun Sep 17 12:03:20 2000 From: tom at ichthus.org (Tom Braun) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Next month's meeting In-Reply-To: <39BFBE07.78A34F08@ket.org> Message-ID: <000401c020c9$307a2340$080614ac@student.asbury.edu> I could probably also find us a meeting place on Asbury's campus here in Wilmore, if that is preferable to everyone. I know that would be really close for Rich, Matt, Ken, and myself, but would probably be a little further for the rest of you. If the group wants to meet here, then let me know, and I will talk to the powers that be on this end and see if I can reserve us a room. (I just don't want to reserve it if there's no interst.) Tom -----Original Message----- From: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org [mailto:owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of Gregg Casillo Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:49 PM To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: LPM: Next month's meeting I regret to inform the group that our current meeting time and place have been trumped by an in-house, KET group. Here's what I've been told: I've run this by John and our solution was to ask you to move your meeting time to 6:30 rather than 6:00 on the second Monday, OR, to a different day. Since the German Team staff meeting is an inhouse based meeting, it takes precedence over any out-of-house meetings. ...The room is not used after 5 p.m. by any group Tuesday-Sunday. So, our options at KET are as follows: 1) meet at 6:00 (or another time) on a different day of the week 2) meet at 6:30 on the same day (second Monday of month) 3) meet elsewhere Personally, I'd rather not meet at 6:30 since our meetings generally run until 8:00 already. Any later would be tough for me. Are there any other places suitable for our meetings? Since my manager requires either myself or Dave Hempy to be there for the duration of the meeting, I feel a little burdened especially if I have something pressing to work on during or around our meeting. I think Dave feels the same way. As far as meeting ideas, someone mentioned the Net:: modules. I would love to look over any of the Net modules, especially Net::SMTP. Gregg Casillo Web Programmer, KET From BMarlin at accentsystems.com Tue Sep 19 15:31:21 2000 From: BMarlin at accentsystems.com (Bill Marlin) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Data Dumper Module for Mysql Message-ID: <61FE4D9C8A6ED211937100805FBB3BF4580A76@BUCKWHEAT> Has anyone used the DataDumper module to help with the installing of DBD 1.1215 with mysql 3.23.18 on Caldera OpenLinux(TM) Version 2.3 This was suggested to myself on the Mysql list serv and just wondered if anyone had any thoughts on this since it is a Perl module. Thanks, Bill From sungo at qx.net Tue Sep 19 15:45:25 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Data Dumper Module for Mysql Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Bill Marlin wrote: > Has anyone used the DataDumper module to help with the installing of DBD Data::Dumper is required by DBI and DBD::mysql. use "perl -MCPAN -e 'install DBD::mysql'" the CPAN module will take care of dependencies for you and yell at you if problems arise. -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From rbowen at rcbowen.com Sun Sep 24 22:00:04 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:53 2004 Subject: LPM: Tuits needed Message-ID: <39CEBFB4.9E588E40@rcbowen.com> I have something on my to do list that has been there for about a month, and I thought I'd throw it out there and see if someone else is interested. What I want is pretty simple - I just lack tuits. I want a Perl program (GD or ImageMajik or Imager or something else) that will take command line arguments and generate a Perl Mongers announcement poster (see http://lexington.pm.org/lpm_poster.gif for example) which has the date, subject of discussion, and perhaps some other information. Might be an entertaining project for someone new to GD (or whatever other module you want to use for this). The problem I was having was getting TrueType working for GD, and I just did not have the time to work on it any more. Rich