From fprice at upended.org Thu Nov 2 17:26:59 2000 From: fprice at upended.org (Frank Price) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: Static linking for DBD Message-ID: <20001102182659.A3206@localhost.localdomain> Hi -- I'm confused and need some general enlightenment. Am trying to install DBD-Oracle. It won't build, complaining about linker errors (this isn't on linux, btw). The README indicated I might have to link it statically rather than dynamically, and gives some indication of how to go about this. Also says that I'll need to build and install a statically linked DBI so the static perl w/ DBD can find it. So here's what I do: already have perl built, using gcc, linked dynamically. I configure DBI with LINKTYPE=static, do make, then make install. Fine. Now I do the same thing with DBD, but before doing make install, I do make perl (which works), then make test FULLPERL=./perl. According to the docs this does the tests using the statically linked perl I just built. However, it fails. Do I need to go all the way back and build perl to start with that doesn't use dynamic linking? Then do DBI and then DBD? Anyone ever done this? Thanks much, -Frank. -- Frank Price | fprice@upended.org | www.upended.org/fprice/ GPG key: www.upended.org/fprice/gpg.asc | E Pluribus Unix From fprice at upended.org Thu Nov 2 17:32:39 2000 From: fprice at upended.org (Frank Price) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: a problem with modularity using Net::LDAP In-Reply-To: ; from oneiros@dcr.net on Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 02:37:33PM -0400 References: Message-ID: <20001102183239.B3206@localhost.localdomain> Since no one has answered, I'll take a shot. On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 02:37:33PM -0400, Joe Hourcle wrote: > > I'm attempting to make a module which essentially returns an object from a > different module. > > Basically, the plan is, that so I don't have to keep track of multiple > passwords in multiple places, I'm using a module which contains > information which I need for conecting to our LDAP server, but which will > return a Net::LDAP object. > > [and I can pass it arguments so that it'll bind as admin, read-only to > everything, as a standard user or anonymously, to either the main server, > or to one of the two development servers] > > When I return a Net::LDAP object from this module, however, I get: > > Can't call method "search" on an undefined value at > ./update_ldap.pl line 156. Where is search()? The second module? And you are creating it from within the first module, or from the actual script? Do you have a 'use second_module' in the first one? Or are you 'use'ing both from the actual script? Lastly, might be worth starting the debugger to find out just what's happening. -Frank. -- Frank Price | fprice@upended.org | www.upended.org/fprice/ GPG key: www.upended.org/fprice/gpg.asc | E Pluribus Unix From sungo at qx.net Thu Nov 2 17:33:37 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting Message-ID: we have a meeting coming up. where are we meeting? am i speaking on gtk? if not, that's fine but _who is_ speaking then? if i _am_ speaking, i need to know so i can have something to show. (how does the beginnings of a window manager in perl sound? :) lets get this figured out soon (like by the weekend). -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From rbowen at rcbowen.com Thu Nov 2 21:04:03 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting References: Message-ID: <3A022B23.F6533F45@rcbowen.com> sungo@qx.net wrote: > > we have a meeting coming up. > > where are we meeting? > > am i speaking on gtk? if not, that's fine but _who is_ speaking then? > if i _am_ speaking, i need to know so i can have something to show. > (how does the beginnings of a window manager in perl sound? :) > > lets get this figured out soon (like by the weekend). One vote for you speaking on gtk. Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From rbowen at rcbowen.com Fri Nov 3 14:56:52 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: Meeting place? Message-ID: <3A032694.A4B4F5C@rcbowen.com> OK, so where are we going to meet? Possible places are Olive Garden DataBeam? Are any Beamers still on the list? um ... anyone have any other suggestions? We need to decide pretty soon. It would be nice, given that the talk is about a GUI thingy, to have a projection screen of some description so that we can see it. -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From ken.rietz at asbury.edu Fri Nov 3 15:20:02 2000 From: ken.rietz at asbury.edu (ken.rietz@asbury.edu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Meeting place? Message-ID: <23CBF54C1C42D411B2CA0004ACB8555F117CCF@MOSES> > OK, so where are we going to meet? > Possible places are > > Olive Garden > DataBeam? Are any Beamers still on the list? > > um ... anyone have any other suggestions? We need to decide > pretty soon. > > It would be nice, given that the talk is about a GUI thingy, to have a > projection screen of some description so that we can see it. I would offer a place at Asbury (probably complete with a projection screen), except that I am booked on all LPM Monday nights until at least January 2001, and possibly through April 2001. This is obviously no immediate help, but if you hang on, a more long-term arrangement can probably be worked out. -- Ken Rietz From rbowen at rcbowen.com Fri Nov 3 16:02:53 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: FWD: Meeting location Message-ID: <3A03360D.E68AEA01@rcbowen.com> Ron, you really need to send from subscribed addresses. You want me to subscribe this address? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: BOUNCE lexington-pm-list@pm.org: Non-member submission from [Ronald Edward Petty ] Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:31:15 -0500 (EST) From: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org To: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org >From rcbowen@rcbowen.com Fri Nov 3 16:31:13 2000 Received: from sweb.uky.edu (sweb.uky.edu [128.163.2.42]) by happyfunball.pm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA23343 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (repett0@localhost) by sweb.uky.edu (8.11.0/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id eA3LV6i12423 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:31:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:31:06 -0500 (EST) From: Ronald Edward Petty To: Lexington Perl Mongers Subject: EVERYONE :) In-Reply-To: <3A032694.A4B4F5C@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1) I can get a place anywhere practiculy at UK 2) Prof. Mirek is wondering if some of you are still interested in giving speeches here at UK. Please talk to me, noone ever replies :) ron From sungo at qx.net Fri Nov 3 16:09:44 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (Matt Cashner) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: FWD: Meeting location Message-ID: <200011032209.eA3M9lb01385@katerina.cre8tivegroup.com> On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 17:02:53 -0500, Rich Bowen said: > 1) I can get a place anywhere practiculy at UK can we get a multimedia type room (aka projector with a standard monitor jack) for monday? if so, i'd say go for it. > 2) Prof. Mirek is wondering if some of you are still interested in > giving speeches here at UK. i dont see why not. not that anyone wants to listen to me babble for very long but still... > Please talk to me, noone ever replies :) maybe if you subscribed your current email address to the list, you'd get these :P -- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From sungo at qx.net Sun Nov 5 11:16:29 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting Message-ID: earth to lpm? are we having a meeting or not? we cant do that without a meeting place. i really dont feel like preparing a presentation if we're not meeting. so let me know what's going on folks. -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From rbowen at rcbowen.com Sun Nov 5 14:24:41 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting References: Message-ID: <3A05C209.36C9A4BD@rcbowen.com> sungo@qx.net wrote: > > earth to lpm? are we having a meeting or not? we cant do that > without a meeting place. i really dont feel like preparing > a presentation if we're not meeting. so let me know what's > going on folks. LPM is next week. Second Monday. This is just the first. However, I would sure like to have a place to have it. Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From sungo at qx.net Sun Nov 5 14:27:26 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (Matt Cashner) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting Message-ID: <200011052027.eA5KRTH02435@katerina.cre8tivegroup.com> On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 15:24:41 -0500, Rich Bowen said: > LPM is next week. Second Monday. This is just the first. However, I > would sure like to have a place to have it. oh yeah. i do this every month dont it. i really need to code something to help me remember when the frick we have these meetings. but as soon as i do that, we'll switch to the first monday :) /me goes back to his corner. -- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From oneiros at dcr.net Sun Nov 5 22:16:03 2000 From: oneiros at dcr.net (Joe Hourcle) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: a problem with modularity using Net::LDAP In-Reply-To: <20001102183239.B3206@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Frank Price wrote: > Since no one has answered, I'll take a shot. > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 02:37:33PM -0400, Joe Hourcle wrote: > > > > I'm attempting to make a module which essentially returns an object from a > > different module. > > > > Basically, the plan is, that so I don't have to keep track of multiple > > passwords in multiple places, I'm using a module which contains > > information which I need for conecting to our LDAP server, but which will > > return a Net::LDAP object. > > > > [and I can pass it arguments so that it'll bind as admin, read-only to > > everything, as a standard user or anonymously, to either the main server, > > or to one of the two development servers] > > > > When I return a Net::LDAP object from this module, however, I get: > > > > Can't call method "search" on an undefined value at > > ./update_ldap.pl line 156. > > Where is search()? The second module? And you are creating it from > within the first module, or from the actual script? Correct. For clarity's sake, I'll refer to them as the main program, gwldap, and Net::LDAP. the main program is using gwldap, and calling a function which returns a Net::LDAP object. The main program is then calling search() on the object. > Do you have a 'use second_module' in the first one? Or are you > 'use'ing both from the actual script? Hmm...there'sa thought...I'm only 'use'ing Net::LDAP in gwldap, not in the main program. It might be that the object gets dropped when the program sees an object blessed into a class that it doesn't know about directly. [I'd normally check it right this second, but it's been a long day, so I'll try it first thing when I get to work] > Lastly, might be worth starting the debugger to find out just what's > happening. And it's times like this when I really wish I had been to the meetings when the debugger was being discussed. If all else fails, I guess it's probably worth my time to try to learn it. -Joe From hempy at ket.org Mon Nov 6 08:47:48 2000 From: hempy at ket.org (David Hempy) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: a problem with modularity using Net::LDAP In-Reply-To: <20001102183239.B3206@localhost.localdomain> References: Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106093640.029fe398@mail.ket.org> >On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 02:37:33PM -0400, Joe Hourcle wrote: > > > > I'm attempting to make a module which essentially returns an object from a > > different module. > > I'm doing something similar in my pressroom. There are several programs that all use pressroom.pm, which includes: pressroom.pm snippet: >use DBI; > > ## returns a $db handle to the pressroom, or dies with a message. >sub pressroomOpenDB { > my $DSN = "pressroom"; > > my $dbh = DBI->connect("DBI:ODBC:$DSN", '', '', {AutoCommit => 0, > PrintError=>1, RaiseError => 0}); > > unless ($dbh) { > die "Error connecting to $DSN $!\n"; > } > return $dbh; >} Then my calling programs have something like: scout.pl snippet: >use DBI; >use pressroom; #page footers and other common subs. > >my $dbh = pressroomOpenDB(); > >my $image_insert_sth = $dbh->prepare('insert into image ( > imageid, sourceext, releaseid, cutline, usage, imgapr, imgaprby > ) values (?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?) ') > or die "Cannot prepare insert image. $!"; Only now that I read this email, I'm wondering how this works at all. (It does work, btw.) Seems like pressroomOpenDB's $dbh would go out of scope at the end of the sub. Maybe it is, and I'm just luckily getting away with it? Or does perl automagically realize that I'm still using that value and doing what I mean, not what I say? Hrmm...I thought I was going to be offering a solution, but I'm ending up more confused than I started. Anybody care to set me straight? Is my code a ticking time bomb? -dave :-| -- David Hempy Internet Database Administrator Kentucky Educational Television -- (859)258-7164 -- (800)333-9764 From tombraun at aircontroltechniques.com Mon Nov 6 10:02:04 2000 From: tombraun at aircontroltechniques.com (Tom Braun) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: a problem with modularity using Net::LDAP In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001106093640.029fe398@mail.ket.org> Message-ID: <002001c0480a$ea99e180$080614ac@student.asbury.edu> An ojbect is just a blessed reference, right? In that case, $dbh is technically not a database handle, but a reference to a database handle. Thus $dbh in your pressroomOpenDB sub does go out of scope, but the handle it references is not destroyed since there is another reference to it, namely the $dbh in your calling routine, which gets the value from the return statement before $pressrom::dbh goes out of scope. Recall that data is not destroyed until all references to it go out of scope, not just the first one. Thus the handle stays around. Aren't references fun :-) Tom >I'm doing something similar in my pressroom. There are several programs >that all use pressroom.pm, which includes: > >>pressroom.pm snippet: >>use DBI; >> >> ## returns a $db handle to the pressroom, or dies with a message. >>sub pressroomOpenDB { >> my $DSN = "pressroom"; >> >> my $dbh = DBI->connect("DBI:ODBC:$DSN", '', '', {AutoCommit => 0, >> PrintError=>1, RaiseError => 0}); >> >> unless ($dbh) { >> die "Error connecting to $DSN $!\n"; >> } >> return $dbh; >>} > > >Then my calling programs have something like: > >scout.pl snippet: >>use DBI; >>use pressroom; #page footers and other common subs. >> >>my $dbh = pressroomOpenDB(); >> >>my $image_insert_sth = $dbh->prepare('insert into image ( >> imageid, sourceext, releaseid, cutline, usage, imgapr, imgaprby >> ) values (?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?) ') >> or die "Cannot prepare insert image. $!"; > > > > >Only now that I read this email, I'm wondering how this works at all. (It >does work, btw.) Seems like pressroomOpenDB's $dbh would go out of scope >at the end of the sub. Maybe it is, and I'm just luckily getting away with >it? Or does perl automagically realize that I'm still using that value and >doing what I mean, not what I say? > >Hrmm...I thought I was going to be offering a solution, but I'm ending up >more confused than I started. Anybody care to set me straight? Is my code >a ticking time bomb? > > >-dave :-| From rbowen at rcbowen.com Fri Nov 10 15:27:52 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: Monday Message-ID: <3A0C6857.2D13C57E@rcbowen.com> If nobody can volunteer a meeting place for Monday in the next hour or so, I guess we'll have to cancel again. It's a shame we have to do this. Perhaps we need to have another discussion of times and meeting places, since attendance has really tapered off, and so perhaps the time and location are just bad for people. Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From ken.rietz at asbury.edu Fri Nov 10 16:04:58 2000 From: ken.rietz at asbury.edu (ken.rietz@asbury.edu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Monday Message-ID: <23CBF54C1C42D411B2CA0004ACB8555F117CDA@MOSES> > > If nobody can volunteer a meeting place for Monday in the next hour or > so, I guess we'll have to cancel again. It's a shame we have > to do this. Unfortunate. > > Perhaps we need to have another discussion of times and > meeting places, > since attendance has really tapered off, and so perhaps the time and > location are just bad for people. Make it a mailing list discussion, since I can't be there on Monday nights at the moment, but definitely want to have some input. -- Ken From rbowen at rcbowen.com Fri Nov 10 16:44:04 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Monday References: <23CBF54C1C42D411B2CA0004ACB8555F117CDA@MOSES> Message-ID: <3A0C7A34.8DB41A5A@rcbowen.com> ken.rietz@asbury.edu wrote: > ... > > Perhaps we need to have another discussion of times and > > meeting places, > > since attendance has really tapered off, and so perhaps the time and > > location are just bad for people. > > Make it a mailing list discussion, since I can't be there on Monday > nights at the moment, but definitely want to have some input. Yeah. That's what I meant. What times/places are good for people? It's an annoying discussion, because you can't make everyone happy. But at the moment, we're not making anyone happy. Does anyone have space that they can offer for this? What happened to the promised space at UK? Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Fri Nov 10 17:27:48 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: Monday In-Reply-To: <3A0C6857.2D13C57E@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: I CAN GET A PLACE ON CAMPUS... is this not possible??????? WHY dosen't anyone say something... Ron On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Rich Bowen wrote: > If nobody can volunteer a meeting place for Monday in the next hour or > so, I guess we'll have to cancel again. It's a shame we have to do this. > > Perhaps we need to have another discussion of times and meeting places, > since attendance has really tapered off, and so perhaps the time and > location are just bad for people. > > Rich > -- > Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com > Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ > From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Fri Nov 10 17:28:59 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Monday In-Reply-To: <3A0C7A34.8DB41A5A@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: > Does anyone have space that they can offer for this? What happened to > the promised space at UK? what promised? I said I can get it.. but NOONE ever said for me too.. Ron From sungo at qx.net Fri Nov 10 17:32:21 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Monday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > Does anyone have space that they can offer for this? What happened to > > the promised space at UK? > > what promised? I said I can get it.. but NOONE ever said for me too.. ron, i asked about this about a week ago. please make sure all of your email accounts are subscribed to lpm. chances are you arent getting the mailing list. -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From rbowen at rcbowen.com Fri Nov 10 20:35:45 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: Monday References: Message-ID: <3A0CB081.6E090A33@rcbowen.com> Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > I CAN GET A PLACE ON CAMPUS... is this not possible??????? WHY dosen't > anyone say something... If you can get a place, please do so. You said earlier that you could get it, but we never heard back for sure that you had a place. Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From rbowen at rcbowen.com Fri Nov 10 20:36:18 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Monday References: Message-ID: <3A0CB0A2.B8AABF3@rcbowen.com> Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > Does anyone have space that they can offer for this? What happened to > > the promised space at UK? > > what promised? I said I can get it.. but NOONE ever said for me too.. Sorry. I thought it was assumed. Yes, please, get a place. We need a place to meet. Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Fri Nov 10 21:08:12 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Monday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: so do you still need me to get a room? ron On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 sungo@qx.net wrote: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > > Does anyone have space that they can offer for this? What happened to > > > the promised space at UK? > > > > what promised? I said I can get it.. but NOONE ever said for me too.. > > ron, i asked about this about a week ago. please make sure all of your > email accounts are subscribed to lpm. chances are you arent getting the > mailing list. > > > -------- > Matt Cashner > Web Applications Developer > The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) > sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum > > > > From rbowen at rcbowen.com Fri Nov 10 21:20:48 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Monday References: Message-ID: <3A0CBB10.B57B3CAE@rcbowen.com> Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > so do you still need me to get a room? We do not have a room. If we do not have one some time soon, then this month's PM meeting will be cancelled. If you get us a room, then we will have a meeting there. If not, nobody else has offered anything. Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Fri Nov 10 21:51:50 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Monday In-Reply-To: <3A0CBB10.B57B3CAE@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: Ok Ill get one tomorrow for you.. and the time and dates etc... Ron On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Rich Bowen wrote: > Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > > so do you still need me to get a room? > > We do not have a room. If we do not have one some time soon, then this > month's PM meeting will be cancelled. If you get us a room, then we will > have a meeting there. If not, nobody else has offered anything. > > Rich > -- > Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com > Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ > From sungo at qx.net Sat Nov 11 00:01:52 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Monday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > Ok Ill get one tomorrow for you.. and the time and dates etc... monday. i do believe we usually get started around 6:30 and run usually until about 7:30 or 8. i'll only have about a half hours worth of me babbling planned to allow for questions or other non me related discussion. :) sound good everyone -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From oneiros at dcr.net Sat Nov 11 00:23:28 2000 From: oneiros at dcr.net (Joe Hourcle) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: RE: Monday In-Reply-To: <3A0C7A34.8DB41A5A@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Rich Bowen wrote: > What times/places are good for people? It's an annoying discussion, > because you can't make everyone happy. But at the moment, we're not > making anyone happy. Okay, it's been almost 2 years since this discussion came up last... I don't have time to clean up the interface, but I've cleared out the data from the find-what-time's-good-for-people thingy: http://www.dcr.net/~oneiros/cgi-bin/lexpm/ Results are at: http://www.dcr.net/cgi/oneiros/lexpm/display.pl (once someone votes, that is. As I'm almost 600 miles away these days, I'll not be voting) -Joe From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Sat Nov 11 15:13:59 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room Message-ID: Ok here is the deal.... We have a room reserved for ACM/UKLUG every monday... Whitehall room 208.. However we only meet once or so a month... This is what I propose and everyone will do as I say :) Do you want this monday...? If so its yours , the room is open 530 - infinity.... Then the next week it is acm and then lug then someone else and then back to perlmongers... UNLESS you guys want it more than once a month and we can arrange that also.. is this cool? Ron From rbowen at rcbowen.com Sat Nov 11 15:25:49 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room References: Message-ID: <3A0DB95D.5B69A4A9@rcbowen.com> Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > Ok here is the deal.... We have a room reserved for ACM/UKLUG every > monday... Whitehall room 208.. However we only meet once or so a month... > > This is what I propose and everyone will do as I say :) > > Do you want this monday...? If so its yours , the room is open 530 - > infinity.... Then the next week it is acm and then lug then someone else > and then back to perlmongers... UNLESS you guys want it more than once a > month and we can arrange that also.. is this cool? This rocks. You're the man. So, if we can find parking, we're in Whitehall 208 at the usual time. Anyone NOT know how to get to Whitehall? Is there/can we get a monitor projector for this event? Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From tom at cre8tivegroup.com Sat Nov 11 16:55:06 2000 From: tom at cre8tivegroup.com (Tom Braun) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room References: <3A0DB95D.5B69A4A9@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: <3A0DCE4A.F17E9241@cre8tivegroup.com> Directions might be helpful, yeah. Rich Bowen wrote: > Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > > Ok here is the deal.... We have a room reserved for ACM/UKLUG every > > monday... Whitehall room 208.. However we only meet once or so a month... > > > > This is what I propose and everyone will do as I say :) > > > > Do you want this monday...? If so its yours , the room is open 530 - > > infinity.... Then the next week it is acm and then lug then someone else > > and then back to perlmongers... UNLESS you guys want it more than once a > > month and we can arrange that also.. is this cool? > > This rocks. You're the man. > So, if we can find parking, we're in Whitehall 208 at the usual time. > Anyone NOT know how to get to Whitehall? > Is there/can we get a monitor projector for this event? > > Rich > -- > Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com > Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Sat Nov 11 20:58:51 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room In-Reply-To: <3A0DB95D.5B69A4A9@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: I have never tried to get a monitor / projector Ill have to ask on monday :( ROn On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Rich Bowen wrote: > Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > > Ok here is the deal.... We have a room reserved for ACM/UKLUG every > > monday... Whitehall room 208.. However we only meet once or so a month... > > > > This is what I propose and everyone will do as I say :) > > > > Do you want this monday...? If so its yours , the room is open 530 - > > infinity.... Then the next week it is acm and then lug then someone else > > and then back to perlmongers... UNLESS you guys want it more than once a > > month and we can arrange that also.. is this cool? > > This rocks. You're the man. > So, if we can find parking, we're in Whitehall 208 at the usual time. > Anyone NOT know how to get to Whitehall? > Is there/can we get a monitor projector for this event? > > Rich > -- > Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com > Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ > From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Sat Nov 11 21:00:41 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room In-Reply-To: <3A0DCE4A.F17E9241@cre8tivegroup.com> Message-ID: Um its the building connected to POT(Patterson Office Tower), POT is the 18 story building on campus. Whitehall is the 3 story BIG white building right next POT. Does this make since, there is a map on www.uky.edu somewhere... Ron On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Tom Braun wrote: > Directions might be helpful, yeah. > > Rich Bowen wrote: > > > Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > > > > Ok here is the deal.... We have a room reserved for ACM/UKLUG every > > > monday... Whitehall room 208.. However we only meet once or so a month... > > > > > > This is what I propose and everyone will do as I say :) > > > > > > Do you want this monday...? If so its yours , the room is open 530 - > > > infinity.... Then the next week it is acm and then lug then someone else > > > and then back to perlmongers... UNLESS you guys want it more than once a > > > month and we can arrange that also.. is this cool? > > > > This rocks. You're the man. > > So, if we can find parking, we're in Whitehall 208 at the usual time. > > Anyone NOT know how to get to Whitehall? > > Is there/can we get a monitor projector for this event? > > > > Rich > > -- > > Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com > > Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ > > From sungo at qx.net Sat Nov 11 23:18:42 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room In-Reply-To: <3A0DB95D.5B69A4A9@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Rich Bowen wrote: > This rocks. You're the man. i suppose i need to finish my presentation tomorrow then, eh? :P > So, if we can find parking, we're in Whitehall 208 at the usual time. > Anyone NOT know how to get to Whitehall? ok rich, you seem to know how to get there. what do you say you impart that wisdom upon tom and i tomorrow at work? tom, this means you actually have to make an appearance tomorrow. :P think you can swing that? -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From sungo at qx.net Sat Nov 11 23:25:36 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 12 Nov 2000 sungo@qx.net wrote: by tommorrow i mean monday of course. geesh... i need more sleep... -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From janine at emazing.com Mon Nov 13 09:16:14 2000 From: janine at emazing.com (Janine) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So the meeting for tonight is on? (Am I the only one who didn't check email over the weekend?) I don't think I can make it. :-( Janine > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org > [mailto:owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of sungo@qx.net > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 12:19 AM > To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: LPM: meeting room > > > On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > This rocks. You're the man. > > i suppose i need to finish my presentation tomorrow then, eh? :P > > > So, if we can find parking, we're in Whitehall 208 at the usual time. > > Anyone NOT know how to get to Whitehall? > > ok rich, you seem to know how to get there. what do you say you impart > that wisdom upon tom and i tomorrow at work? tom, this means you actually > have to make an appearance tomorrow. :P think you can swing that? > > > -------- > Matt Cashner > Web Applications Developer > The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) > sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum > > > From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Mon Nov 13 10:57:10 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room In-Reply-To: Message-ID: the room is open 530 on..... There is a test one monday in there sometime the rest of the semester it is at 7 so if its today dont be mad... Im not sure what monday it is. I cannot be there I think... Ill try... Im really behind in homework... Ron On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Janine wrote: > So the meeting for tonight is on? (Am I the only one who didn't check email over the weekend?) I don't think I can make it. :-( > > Janine > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org > > [mailto:owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of sungo@qx.net > > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 12:19 AM > > To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > > Subject: Re: LPM: meeting room > > > > > > On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > > This rocks. You're the man. > > > > i suppose i need to finish my presentation tomorrow then, eh? :P > > > > > So, if we can find parking, we're in Whitehall 208 at the usual time. > > > Anyone NOT know how to get to Whitehall? > > > > ok rich, you seem to know how to get there. what do you say you impart > > that wisdom upon tom and i tomorrow at work? tom, this means you actually > > have to make an appearance tomorrow. :P think you can swing that? > > > > > > -------- > > Matt Cashner > > Web Applications Developer > > The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) > > sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum > > > > > > > From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Mon Nov 13 13:08:37 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: MEETING TONIGHT Message-ID: ARE YOU MEETING TONIGHT OR NOT???????? I NEED TO KNOW... Doesn't matter yer or no but tell me one or the other.. ron From rbowen at rcbowen.com Mon Nov 13 13:57:12 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: MEETING TONIGHT References: Message-ID: <3A104798.C13A5672@rcbowen.com> Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > ARE YOU MEETING TONIGHT OR NOT???????? I NEED TO KNOW... > > Doesn't matter yer or no but tell me one or the other.. Yes, indeedy, we are planning to meet tonight. Thanks again for your getting the room for us. I wonder if you are not getting list traffic? Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From sungo at qx.net Mon Nov 13 13:14:44 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: MEETING TONIGHT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > ARE YOU MEETING TONIGHT OR NOT???????? I NEED TO KNOW... YES WE ARE MEETING. DID WE GET A PROJECTOR? WILL THERE BE FLYING MONKEYS? WHY ARE WE YELLING? -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From sungo at qx.net Mon Nov 13 11:19:00 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > There is a test one monday in there sometime the rest of the semester it > is at 7 so if its today dont be mad... Im not sure what monday it is. I > cannot be there I think... Ill try... Im really behind in homework... so, did we get a projector? and they allow you to reserve a room even though someone might have always reserved that room for a test? /me thinks they need Conference Rooms Pro. :P -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Mon Nov 13 15:40:18 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: MEETING TONIGHT In-Reply-To: <3A104798.C13A5672@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: am i not getting this :) TEST ron On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Rich Bowen wrote: > Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > > ARE YOU MEETING TONIGHT OR NOT???????? I NEED TO KNOW... > > > > Doesn't matter yer or no but tell me one or the other.. > > Yes, indeedy, we are planning to meet tonight. Thanks again for your > getting the room for us. > > I wonder if you are not getting list traffic? > > Rich > -- > Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com > Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ > From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Mon Nov 13 15:40:49 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: MEETING TONIGHT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: sorry no projector :( Next time :) ron On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 sungo@qx.net wrote: > On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > ARE YOU MEETING TONIGHT OR NOT???????? I NEED TO KNOW... > > YES WE ARE MEETING. DID WE GET A PROJECTOR? WILL THERE BE FLYING > MONKEYS? WHY ARE WE YELLING? > > > -------- > Matt Cashner > Web Applications Developer > The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) > sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum > > > From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Mon Nov 13 15:41:41 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: meeting room In-Reply-To: Message-ID: no we have it all mondays, we were warned that 2 mondays this year there will be a test, one has passed one more to come, not sure, probably not till mid december... ron On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 sungo@qx.net wrote: > On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > There is a test one monday in there sometime the rest of the semester it > > is at 7 so if its today dont be mad... Im not sure what monday it is. I > > cannot be there I think... Ill try... Im really behind in homework... > > so, did we get a projector? > > and they allow you to reserve a room even though someone might have always > reserved that room for a test? /me thinks they need Conference Rooms > Pro. :P > > -------- > Matt Cashner > Web Applications Developer > The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) > sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum > > > From pstackhouse at ket.org Tue Nov 14 12:53:38 2000 From: pstackhouse at ket.org (Paul Stackhouse) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: Commercial Alert References: Message-ID: <3A118A32.3FB06BEC@ket.org> I never do this, but here goes: http://www.bookpool.com is currently offering 45% off of Microsoft Press books. I have used, and highly recommend this site for drastically discounted technical books. Their shipping options are broad and rates are very reasonable. I have no affiliation with the site, beyond being a happy customer. How was last night's meeting? -paul -- Paul Stackhouse Webmaster Kentucky Educational TV Voice: 859-258-7135 600 Cooper Drive Fax: 859-258-7399 Lexington, KY 40502 http://www.ket.org From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Tue Nov 14 13:30:50 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: need more people Message-ID: if u guys are going to stay on campus (I hope so along with some others), I will start to work out a deal to get a nice room with a projector dancers etc ... since acm/uklug/perl/maybe ieee all use this room we will ALL benefit from having a better equipt room. So is it worth my effort or not? Ron From rbowen at rcbowen.com Tue Nov 14 14:10:43 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: need more people References: Message-ID: <3A119C43.932EF4BF@rcbowen.com> Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > if u guys are going to stay on campus (I hope so along with some others), > I will start to work out a deal to get a nice room with a projector > dancers etc ... since acm/uklug/perl/maybe ieee all use this room we will > ALL benefit from having a better equipt room. So is it worth my effort or > not? Absolutely. That would be awesome. And some signs around campus couldn't hurt either. Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Tue Nov 14 14:15:36 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: need more people In-Reply-To: <3A119C43.932EF4BF@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: alright well Ill get on it this weekend.... just dont decide next week you want somewhere off campus or ill kill larry wall hahaha jk ron On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Rich Bowen wrote: > Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > > if u guys are going to stay on campus (I hope so along with some others), > > I will start to work out a deal to get a nice room with a projector > > dancers etc ... since acm/uklug/perl/maybe ieee all use this room we will > > ALL benefit from having a better equipt room. So is it worth my effort or > > not? > > Absolutely. That would be awesome. And some signs around campus couldn't > hurt either. > > Rich > -- > Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com > Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ > From sungo at qx.net Tue Nov 14 13:46:11 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: need more people In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > if u guys are going to stay on campus (I hope so along with some others), > I will start to work out a deal to get a nice room with a projector > dancers etc ... since acm/uklug/perl/maybe ieee all use this room we will > ALL benefit from having a better equipt room. So is it worth my effort or > not? i'd say go for it. esp those dancing girls. _that'll_ get attendance up. :P -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From janine at emazing.com Tue Nov 14 16:10:36 2000 From: janine at emazing.com (Janine) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: need more people In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Harumph! What about dancing _boys_? Janine > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org > [mailto:owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of sungo@qx.net > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:46 PM > To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: LPM: need more people > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > if u guys are going to stay on campus (I hope so along with some others), > > I will start to work out a deal to get a nice room with a projector > > dancers etc ... since acm/uklug/perl/maybe ieee all use this room we will > > ALL benefit from having a better equipt room. So is it worth my effort or > > not? > > i'd say go for it. esp those dancing girls. _that'll_ get attendance > up. :P > > -------- > Matt Cashner > Web Applications Developer > The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) > sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum > > > From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Tue Nov 14 17:08:52 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: need more people In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Harumph! What about dancing _boys_? who is this pervert :) sorry we cant afford them :) how convenient Ron From sungo at qx.net Tue Nov 14 17:14:50 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: need more people In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > who is this pervert :) um, a female type person. -------- Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Tue Nov 14 17:50:33 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:55 2004 Subject: LPM: need more people In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I know I was joking :) I have more people wanting to come to the meetings so... BE READY FOR MILLIONS of people to start showing.. ron On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 sungo@qx.net wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > who is this pervert :) > > um, a female type person. > > -------- > Matt Cashner > Web Applications Developer > The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) > sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum > > > From sungo at qx.net Tue Nov 14 17:56:38 2000 From: sungo at qx.net (sungo@qx.net) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:56 2004 Subject: LPM: need more people In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > so... BE READY FOR MILLIONS of people to start showing.. numbers above 10 would cause me to be absolutely flabergasted. ------ Matt Cashner Web Applications Developer The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum From ken.rietz at asbury.edu Wed Nov 15 07:46:13 2000 From: ken.rietz at asbury.edu (ken.rietz@asbury.edu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:56 2004 Subject: LPM: need more people Message-ID: <23CBF54C1C42D411B2CA0004ACB8555F117CDD@MOSES> Forget it. Boys can't dance. :-) -- Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: Janine [mailto:janine@emazing.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:11 PM > To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: RE: LPM: need more people > > > Harumph! What about dancing _boys_? > > Janine > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org > > [mailto:owner-lexington-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of sungo@qx.net > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:46 PM > > To: lexington-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > > Subject: Re: LPM: need more people > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Ronald Edward Petty wrote: > > > > > if u guys are going to stay on campus (I hope so along > with some others), > > > I will start to work out a deal to get a nice room with a > projector > > > dancers etc ... since acm/uklug/perl/maybe ieee all use > this room we will > > > ALL benefit from having a better equipt room. So is it > worth my effort or > > > not? > > > > i'd say go for it. esp those dancing girls. _that'll_ get attendance > > up. :P > > > > -------- > > Matt Cashner > > Web Applications Developer > > The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com) > > sungo@earthling.net | Codito, ergo sum > > > > > > > From rbowen at rcbowen.com Tue Nov 21 22:21:53 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:56 2004 Subject: LPM: December meeting Message-ID: <3A1B49E1.670CD50B@rcbowen.com> I thought it might be nice to try to get things rolling a little ahead of the day before the meeting. December's meeting will be (hopefully) at 6pm, in the Whitehall classroom building, University of Kentucky. If someone would like to speak about something, this would be a great time to speak up. Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From dpitts at mk.net Tue Nov 21 22:52:25 2000 From: dpitts at mk.net (David Pitts) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:56 2004 Subject: LPM: testing tool for web pages and forms... References: <3A1B49E1.670CD50B@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: <008a01c05440$02609ca0$7801a8c0@adverb.com> Has anyone seen/developed/come across/use/etc. a tool that can take a set of test data and hit a web site (such as filling out forms or "clicking" on buttons or url's) to ensure the code behind the web site is working properly? Thanks, David David Pitts President and CEO PTRI www.AboveAndBeyondProgramming.com dpitts@AboveAndBeyondProgramming.com From repett0 at sweb.uky.edu Wed Nov 22 08:23:09 2000 From: repett0 at sweb.uky.edu (Ronald Edward Petty) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:56 2004 Subject: LPM: testing tool for web pages and forms... In-Reply-To: <008a01c05440$02609ca0$7801a8c0@adverb.com> Message-ID: I think apache has a built in feature to do this ron On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, David Pitts wrote: > Has anyone seen/developed/come across/use/etc. a tool that can take a set of > test data and hit a web site (such as filling out forms or "clicking" on > buttons or url's) to ensure the code behind the web site is working > properly? > > Thanks, > > David > David Pitts > President and CEO > PTRI > www.AboveAndBeyondProgramming.com > dpitts@AboveAndBeyondProgramming.com > > > From oneiros at dcr.net Wed Nov 22 08:55:47 2000 From: oneiros at dcr.net (Joe Hourcle) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:56 2004 Subject: LPM: testing tool for web pages and forms... In-Reply-To: <008a01c05440$02609ca0$7801a8c0@adverb.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, David Pitts wrote: > Has anyone seen/developed/come across/use/etc. a tool that can take a set of > test data and hit a web site (such as filling out forms or "clicking" on > buttons or url's) to ensure the code behind the web site is working > properly? It's normally just a matter of opening a TCP connection to the site, and sending the correct information. GET type operations are dirt easy. With POST operations, you need to generate the data to be sent, then send along a Content-Length header with the size of the data string. You may also need to forge the Referer header. If you need to send cookies, I've never done it myself, but in theory it should be easy, you'd just have to request the form first, so that you'd get the appropriate cookies, then send them along with the form submission. If you're just going to be testing against the same data every time, the simplest thing to do is to write the feedback form to post to an abnormal port, then open up something to capture what gets sent to that port, send the form, and then look at the output. It should just take a few tweaks to make it something that you can test the server with. ----- Joe Hourcle From rbowen at rcbowen.com Wed Nov 22 11:22:55 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:56 2004 Subject: LPM: testing tool for web pages and forms... References: <3A1B49E1.670CD50B@rcbowen.com> <008a01c05440$02609ca0$7801a8c0@adverb.com> Message-ID: <3A1C00EE.C488731D@rcbowen.com> David Pitts wrote: > > Has anyone seen/developed/come across/use/etc. a tool that can take a set of > test data and hit a web site (such as filling out forms or "clicking" on > buttons or url's) to ensure the code behind the web site is working > properly? Yes, it's called an intern. Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/ From fireston at lexmark.com Wed Nov 22 11:25:42 2000 From: fireston at lexmark.com (Mik Firestone) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:56 2004 Subject: LPM: testing tool for web pages and forms... In-Reply-To: <3A1C00EE.C488731D@rcbowen.com> Message-ID: <200011221725.MAA04214@interlock2.lexmark.com> *snort* C|N>K That's cold Rich. True, but cold. Mik On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Rich Bowen is rumored to have said: >David Pitts wrote: >> >> Has anyone seen/developed/come across/use/etc. a tool that can take a set of >> test data and hit a web site (such as filling out forms or "clicking" on >> buttons or url's) to ensure the code behind the web site is working >> properly? > >Yes, it's called an intern. > >Rich > -- Mik Firestone fireston@lexmark.com When I become an Evil Overlord: Any and all magic and/or technology that can miraculously resurrect a secondary character who has given up his/her life through self sacrifice will be outlawed and destroyed. From hempy at ket.org Wed Nov 22 12:05:59 2000 From: hempy at ket.org (David Hempy) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:56 2004 Subject: LPM: testing tool for web pages and forms... In-Reply-To: <3A1C00EE.C488731D@rcbowen.com> References: <3A1B49E1.670CD50B@rcbowen.com> <008a01c05440$02609ca0$7801a8c0@adverb.com> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001122130535.03729e50@mail.ket.org> At 12:22 PM 11/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: >David Pitts wrote: > > > > Has anyone seen/developed/come across/use/etc. a tool that can take a > set of > > test data and hit a web site (such as filling out forms or "clicking" on > > buttons or url's) to ensure the code behind the web site is working > > properly? > >Yes, it's called an intern. > >Rich ROTFLMAO, -dave -- David Hempy Internet Database Administrator Kentucky Educational Television -- (859)258-7164 -- (800)333-9764 From rbowen at rcbowen.com Thu Nov 23 19:12:02 2000 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:05:56 2004 Subject: LPM: Test::Harness and Test.pm Message-ID: <3A1DC062.EA74A229@rcbowen.com> Do any of you folks have any experience writing module test suited The Right Way with Test.pm and/or putting tests in the t/ subdirectory? The docs are awful, and I'm spending a huge amount of time trying to find good examples in CPAN of modules that use them, but any pointers, or even good examples, would be much appreciated. Rich -- Author: Apache Server Unleashed - www.apacheunleashed.com Director of Web Application Development - http://www.cre8tivegroup.com/