[kw-pm] why the hatred for PHP?

[Greg.Fenton at ianywhere.com]

PHP is "hated" because it is improperly used.  It is improperly used 
because it is easy to get started with ... and quickly becomes difficult 
to reorganize.

One should not put large amounts of code into web pages.  This leads to 
copy-n-paste coding, which is the exact opposite of Code Reuse.  Take a 
look at most PHP open source projects and you'll see that they are 
struggling to *remove* PHP from their pages.  If PHP in pages is such a 
good idea...why does Smarty exist??  A templating system for a template 
language???

I'm not saying that there isn't good PHP...but just like Visual Basic, it 
is easy to get started, but often improperly used.  Basically, it comes 
down to people starting on a project before they've figured out what they 
are trying to do.  By the time they get an idea, they already have dozens 
(hundreds?) of pages which HTML and PHP intertwined and they aren't 
willing (unable?) to rework the code to clean it up....this leads to 
non-internationalized, non-browser-agnostic, invent-the-wheel-each-time 
websites.

Not to say that Perl (or any other language) can't be similarily 
abused...but PHP has way too many examples of how *not* to write PHP that 
its hard to get newbies to learn the right way to write PHP...thus PHP is 
"hated".

Don't get me wrong, I use PHP in a number of scenarios...but always have 
to cringe when it comes to string manipulation  ;-)

greg.fenton
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Greg Fenton
Consultant, Solution Services
iAnywhere Solutions




"Marko Vidberg" <marko at isfoundhere.com>
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I coded in Perl for a number of years at my work for all our web projects,
then we switched everything to PHP and I like it much better.  I will
still use Perl for my quick and dirty command line scripting but for web
development how can you beat PHP?


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