From daniel at coder.com Fri May 2 07:29:47 2003 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:29 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] Perl & XML review (fwd) Message-ID: And here, in inimitable Lloyd fashion, is a very honest review of the book, Perl & XML. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perl & XML Review Well the time has come for me to sing for my supper. O'Reilly was kind enough to give kw.pm a copy of the book Perl & XML in exchange for a review, so here goes. At our last pub social I was surprised when one of our true mavins of all things geek suddenly burst out in fulsome praise for this very book (Now you know what PerlMongers talk about after they've had a few beers, XML). OK so he didn't exactly praise the book, oh OK so he trashed it. So you have to write a review of a book and arguably one of the smartest guys you know has just ripped it to shreds. Furthermore does my opinion stand any chance of not being coloured by the fact that I did not pay $54.95CDN for the book, that I indeed got it as free as in free beer ( yeah OK so I had to write this, me getting paid to write ha ha ha now that is a joke). Well, what did I think of the book? I think it did give me a good introduction to how the Perl community is interacting with the XML community. The authors do talk about names, personalities and religious wars. Not much that I had not already gathered from the web but it is reassuring for me to see it in print. I'm interested in Perl, I'm interested in XML, what does the intersection of those to worlds look like? I think this book is a pretty good little pocket map. That may have made a good magazine article, but a book? Well there are code examples, but it is too slim a volume to be a handbook on the Perl XML modules. As my friend pointed out don't read this book, read the documentation. Also, at points I thought they were trying to assure someone that Perl could do real XML. Could we not assume that anyone who had even scratched the surface of Perl would already know Perl can do anything and also that you probably would not have picked up this book unless you had scratched the surface of Perl. A little preaching to the choir? Thanks O'Reilly, but if you have to pay $54.95 for this book, save your money for one of their more worthy products. Lloyd ------------------------------------------------------------------------- dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org From scruss at sympatico.ca Fri May 2 09:20:12 2003 From: scruss at sympatico.ca (Stewart C. Russell) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:29 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] Perl & XML review (fwd) Message-ID: <20030502142012.LGPK19190.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.18]> Daniel R. Allen quoted Lloyd in saying: > > Thanks O'Reilly, but if you have to pay $54.95 > for this book, save your > money for one of their more worthy products. I'm afraid I have to say I haven't found many of O'Reilly's XML books worth what I paid for them. And I got a couple of them from Factory Direct at $19.99, and I still don't feel as if I got VFM. Stewart (a now-delurked Toronto Perl Monger, who envies that bread place you have in Kitchener.) From pm at datademons.com Fri May 2 09:28:26 2003 From: pm at datademons.com (Justin Wheeler) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:29 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] Perl & XML review (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20030502142012.LGPK19190.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.18]> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 May 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Daniel R. Allen quoted Lloyd in saying: > > > > Thanks O'Reilly, but if you have to pay $54.95 > > for this book, save your > > money for one of their more worthy products. > > I'm afraid I have to say I haven't found many of > O'Reilly's XML books worth what I paid for them. > And I got a couple of them from Factory Direct at > $19.99, and I still don't feel as if I got VFM. While we're on the subject, I haven't dabbled in the XML-Perl mixture. I tried to sit down and get a grasp on it, but I found more XML modules on CPAN than you could shake a stick at. Where would the members of this list suggest I go to start? I'm a Perl-XML newbie. I know Perl, I know XML, I don't know where to start when making them go together. My main interest is in XML and XSL and how they go together in Perl. > (a now-delurked Toronto Perl Monger, who envies that bread place you have in Kitchener.) I'm assuming you mean the Weston's bread factory? That place smells awesome when driving by. *drool* Justin -- There's 10 kinds of people in this world, those that understand binary, and those that don't. From scruss at sympatico.ca Fri May 2 13:31:53 2003 From: scruss at sympatico.ca (Stewart C. Russell) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:29 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] Perl & XML review (fwd) Message-ID: <20030502183154.NFMA22383.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.22]> Justin Wheeler wrote: > > Where would the members of this > list suggest I go to start? depends what you want to do. Is there a particular XML technology that you want to work with, like RSS? > My main interest is in XML and XSL and how they > go together in Perl. For XSLT, I've always used the Java based command line tools from Saxon and Xalan, sorry. > I'm assuming you mean the Weston's bread > factory? No, I think it's the City (Cafe|Bakery). The place with the bus ticket box as an honour payment system. And probably the best sourdough I've ever tasted. Stewart From shuchit at techie.com Fri May 9 14:39:03 2003 From: shuchit at techie.com (Shuchit Velkar) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:29 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] YAPC::Canada Message-ID: <20030509193903.30797.qmail@mail.com> I will be attending and would be interested in car pooling. How many of us are making it to Ottawa. Shuchit ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From da at coder.com Fri May 9 14:16:43 2003 From: da at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] YAPC::Canada In-Reply-To: <20030509193903.30797.qmail@mail.com> Message-ID: As far as I know, you, me, and Lloyd Carr are going. Lloyd is driving his family and is out of the carpooling game. My plan had been to take my car, which has just developed brake problems and is therefore out of the running. We should talk. :-) -Daniel http://kw.pm.org/ - Kitchener-Waterloo Perlmongers - da@kw.pm.org http://coder.com/ - Prescient Code Solutions - (519) 575-3733 da@coder.com On Fri, 9 May 2003, Shuchit Velkar wrote: > > I will be attending and would be interested in car pooling. How many of us > are making it to Ottawa. > > Shuchit > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. > Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From rpjday at mindspring.com Sat May 10 12:06:10 2003 From: rpjday at mindspring.com (Robert P. J. Day) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] looking for quick and dirty perl/tk registration program Message-ID: my brother is running a local bike race next month, and he's looking for a basic rider registration program; you know, name, address, category and so on. has to run under win98. i suggested perl/tk, so can anyone point me at something like this ready to go? obviously, i can hack the individual fields, but it would be nice to just download something like this. pointers? rday From akohlsmith-kwlug at benshaw.com Mon May 12 08:03:47 2003 From: akohlsmith-kwlug at benshaw.com (Andrew Kohlsmith) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] looking for quick and dirty perl/tk registration program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200305120903.47918@-mixdown.ca> > my brother is running a local bike race next month, and he's > looking for a basic rider registration program; you know, > name, address, category and so on. has to run under win98. > i suggested perl/tk, so can anyone point me at something > like this ready to go? obviously, i can hack the individual > fields, but it would be nice to just download something like > this. If he's already got office, do it in Access. If not, get OpenOffice and PostgreSQL or whatever DB you can get on Win32 for free. This screams for a standard regular everyday database form. Regards, Andrew From elbie at trig.net Wed May 28 14:37:43 2003 From: elbie at trig.net (Christopher Calzonetti) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? Message-ID: <20030528193743.GA55976@trig.net> Now that the dust has had a chance to settle, how was the talk? We're coming up on the beginning of the month, and maybe a report from YAPC might be a good thing to include in June's meeting. While we're at it, last meeting we had in town, we talked briefly about mod_perl as a possible topic for a talk. Is whomever was the authority on that willing to put something together? -- Christopher Calzonetti, Technical Lead, Trig.Net Web: http://www.trig.net/ Mail: mailto:chris@trig.net From elbie at trig.net Wed May 28 14:40:10 2003 From: elbie at trig.net (Christopher Calzonetti) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] ActiveState for commercial use? Message-ID: <20030528194009.GB55976@trig.net> Does anyone know if ActiveState's free distribution, ActivePerl can be used for commercial purposes without violating some kind of license? -- Christopher Calzonetti, Technical Lead, Trig.Net Web: http://www.trig.net/ Mail: mailto:chris@trig.net From warren.mcneil at rogers.com Wed May 28 14:58:41 2003 From: warren.mcneil at rogers.com (Warren McNeil) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] ActiveState for commercial use? In-Reply-To: <20030528194009.GB55976@trig.net> References: <20030528194009.GB55976@trig.net> Message-ID: <20030528195841.GA8341@cr397237-a.ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 03:40:10PM -0400, Christopher Calzonetti wrote: > Does anyone know if ActiveState's free distribution, ActivePerl can be used > for commercial purposes without violating some kind of license? > -- > Christopher Calzonetti, Technical Lead, Trig.Net > Web: http://www.trig.net/ Mail: mailto:chris@trig.net > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm I dug around their website and found their license agreement. See: http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/license_agreement.plex Warren From da at coder.com Wed May 28 14:06:46 2003 From: da at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? In-Reply-To: <20030528193743.GA55976@trig.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 May 2003, Christopher Calzonetti wrote: > Now that the dust has had a chance to settle, Gee, has it?... I'm still catching up, personally. :-) > how was the talk? The entire thing was great. The speakers were good, the keynote by the president of Activestate was good, and the other attendees were lots of fun to hang out with. Oh, and some of us saw The Matrix on opening night, which was also lots of fun. > We're coming up on the beginning of the month, and maybe a report from YAPC > might be a good thing to include in June's meeting. I'm happy to do so; hopefully Lloyd and Shuchit will, as well. For the curious, the proceedings in all of their glory are available at: http://coder.com/yapc-canada/2003/proceedings/ > While we're at it, last meeting we had in town, we talked briefly about > mod_perl as a possible topic for a talk. Is whomever was the authority on > that willing to put something together? Good question. ... -Daniel http://coder.com/ - Prescient Code Solutions - (519) 575-3733 da@coder.com > -- > Christopher Calzonetti, Technical Lead, Trig.Net > Web: http://www.trig.net/ Mail: mailto:chris@trig.net > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Wed May 28 16:08:59 2003 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I completely agree with Daniel, excellent all around. I'll be there to gush about it if anyone wants to listen. (Well not the campus dorm room but next year I'm staying at a motel :-) ) On Wed, 28 May 2003, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 15:06:46 -0400 (EDT) > From: Daniel R. Allen > Cc: kw-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? > > > On Wed, 28 May 2003, Christopher Calzonetti wrote: > > > Now that the dust has had a chance to settle, > > Gee, has it?... I'm still catching up, personally. :-) > > > how was the talk? > > The entire thing was great. The speakers were good, the keynote by the > president of Activestate was good, and the other attendees were lots of > fun to hang out with. Oh, and some of us saw The Matrix on opening night, > which was also lots of fun. > > > We're coming up on the beginning of the month, and maybe a report from YAPC > > might be a good thing to include in June's meeting. > > I'm happy to do so; hopefully Lloyd and Shuchit will, as well. > > For the curious, the proceedings in all of their glory are available at: > http://coder.com/yapc-canada/2003/proceedings/ > > > While we're at it, last meeting we had in town, we talked briefly about > > mod_perl as a possible topic for a talk. Is whomever was the authority on > > that willing to put something together? > > Good question. ... > > -Daniel > > http://coder.com/ - Prescient Code Solutions - (519) 575-3733 da@coder.com > > > -- > > Christopher Calzonetti, Technical Lead, Trig.Net > > Web: http://www.trig.net/ Mail: mailto:chris@trig.net > > _______________________________________________ > > kw-pm mailing list > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org From arguile at lucentstudios.com Thu May 29 08:26:37 2003 From: arguile at lucentstudios.com (Arguile) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1054214798.512.6.camel@broadswd> On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:06, Daniel R. Allen wrote: [snip] > > > While we're at it, last meeting we had in town, we talked briefly about > > mod_perl as a possible topic for a talk. Is whomever was the authority on > > that willing to put something together? > > Good question. ... Yes, I've been putting something together for that. I just realised however that I have to be at a wedding rehearsal that night... I can do it for the July one or if someone else familiar with mod_perl wants the slides I'm preparing to present that's possible. But they wouldn't work as stand alone, the presenter would need to be at least pretty familiar w/ mod_perl. Sorry for the trouble. From da at coder.com Thu May 29 11:33:35 2003 From: da at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? In-Reply-To: <1054214798.512.6.camel@broadswd> Message-ID: I can ask Toronto.pm members who said they'd love to come up to give a talk, whether June is good for them. Though, I'm a bit concerned about whether our summer attendance might be light; I don't want to have somebody visit and only 4 of us show!... Maybe could I get a show of hands from people who are currently planning to come to our meeting on the 19th? Just drop me an email if you'd like to come; not a firm committment. I'll wait a few days then if there are more than, say, 6, ask Toronto folx. A question for list discussion: would a different day of week, or an earlier meeting followed by going somewhere for food, make it more attractive? :-) In case you're curious, we've gotten offers for talks on Testing or Class::DBI from Michael Graham; and "building PDFs on the fly" from Richard Dice. Any of these sound great; I missed both of Michael's talks at YAPC::Canada. -Daniel http://coder.com/ - Prescient Code Solutions - (519) 575-3733 da@coder.com On 29 May 2003, Arguile wrote: > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:06, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > [snip] > > > > > While we're at it, last meeting we had in town, we talked briefly about > > > mod_perl as a possible topic for a talk. Is whomever was the authority on > > > that willing to put something together? > > > > Good question. ... > > Yes, I've been putting something together for that. I just realised > however that I have to be at a wedding rehearsal that night... > > I can do it for the July one or if someone else familiar with mod_perl > wants the slides I'm preparing to present that's possible. But they > wouldn't work as stand alone, the presenter would need to be at least > pretty familiar w/ mod_perl. > > Sorry for the trouble. > > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From elbie at trig.net Thu May 29 13:05:46 2003 From: elbie at trig.net (Christopher Calzonetti) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? In-Reply-To: References: <1054214798.512.6.camel@broadswd> Message-ID: <20030529180546.GA68722@trig.net> I'd be there. On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 12:33:35PM -0400, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > ... > Maybe could I get a show of hands from people who are currently planning > to come to our meeting on the 19th? Just drop me an email if you'd like > to come; not a firm committment. I'll wait a few days then if there are > more than, say, 6, ask Toronto folx. > ... From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Thu May 29 18:55:20 2003 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'll be there. Food always sounds good :-) The Testing talk by Michael Graham was excellent, so it would be a shame to waste it, we should maybe hold off till the fall when we have a better chance of a good turnout. I suggest we keep the summer meetings on the lighter side, beer on the patio anyone :-) On Thu, 29 May 2003, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:33:35 -0400 (EDT) > From: Daniel R. Allen > To: Arguile > Cc: kw-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? > > I can ask Toronto.pm members who said they'd love to come up to give a > talk, whether June is good for them. Though, I'm a bit concerned about > whether our summer attendance might be light; I don't want to have > somebody visit and only 4 of us show!... > > Maybe could I get a show of hands from people who are currently planning > to come to our meeting on the 19th? Just drop me an email if you'd like > to come; not a firm committment. I'll wait a few days then if there are > more than, say, 6, ask Toronto folx. > > A question for list discussion: would a different day of week, or an > earlier meeting followed by going somewhere for food, make it more > attractive? :-) > > In case you're curious, we've gotten offers for talks on Testing or > Class::DBI from Michael Graham; and "building PDFs on the fly" from > Richard Dice. Any of these sound great; I missed both of Michael's talks > at YAPC::Canada. > > -Daniel > > http://coder.com/ - Prescient Code Solutions - (519) 575-3733 da@coder.com > > On 29 May 2003, Arguile wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:06, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > While we're at it, last meeting we had in town, we talked briefly about > > > > mod_perl as a possible topic for a talk. Is whomever was the authority on > > > > that willing to put something together? > > > > > > Good question. ... > > > > Yes, I've been putting something together for that. I just realised > > however that I have to be at a wedding rehearsal that night... > > > > I can do it for the July one or if someone else familiar with mod_perl > > wants the slides I'm preparing to present that's possible. But they > > wouldn't work as stand alone, the presenter would need to be at least > > pretty familiar w/ mod_perl. > > > > Sorry for the trouble. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kw-pm mailing list > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org From pm at datademons.com Thu May 29 22:58:21 2003 From: pm at datademons.com (Justin Wheeler) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm not a fan of beer, but I'll have Coke and wings myself. ;) ... I'm still yet to come to my first meeting.. been a member for a short while, but thus far, meetings have fallen on absolutely terrible days for me. I'm hoping to make it to the next one though. Regards, Justin Wheeler -- Never let your mind wander. It's too small to be out on its own. On Thu, 29 May 2003, lloyd carr wrote: > I'll be there. > > Food always sounds good :-) > > The Testing talk by Michael Graham was excellent, so it would be a shame > to waste it, we should maybe hold off till the fall when we have a better > chance of a good turnout. > > I suggest we keep the summer meetings on the lighter side, beer on the > patio anyone :-) > > On Thu, 29 May 2003, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:33:35 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Daniel R. Allen > > To: Arguile > > Cc: kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > Subject: Re: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? > > > > I can ask Toronto.pm members who said they'd love to come up to give a > > talk, whether June is good for them. Though, I'm a bit concerned about > > whether our summer attendance might be light; I don't want to have > > somebody visit and only 4 of us show!... > > > > Maybe could I get a show of hands from people who are currently planning > > to come to our meeting on the 19th? Just drop me an email if you'd like > > to come; not a firm committment. I'll wait a few days then if there are > > more than, say, 6, ask Toronto folx. > > > > A question for list discussion: would a different day of week, or an > > earlier meeting followed by going somewhere for food, make it more > > attractive? :-) > > > > In case you're curious, we've gotten offers for talks on Testing or > > Class::DBI from Michael Graham; and "building PDFs on the fly" from > > Richard Dice. Any of these sound great; I missed both of Michael's talks > > at YAPC::Canada. > > > > -Daniel > > > > http://coder.com/ - Prescient Code Solutions - (519) 575-3733 da@coder.com > > > > On 29 May 2003, Arguile wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:06, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > While we're at it, last meeting we had in town, we talked briefly about > > > > > mod_perl as a possible topic for a talk. Is whomever was the authority on > > > > > that willing to put something together? > > > > > > > > Good question. ... > > > > > > Yes, I've been putting something together for that. I just realised > > > however that I have to be at a wedding rehearsal that night... > > > > > > I can do it for the July one or if someone else familiar with mod_perl > > > wants the slides I'm preparing to present that's possible. But they > > > wouldn't work as stand alone, the presenter would need to be at least > > > pretty familiar w/ mod_perl. > > > > > > Sorry for the trouble. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > kw-pm mailing list > > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kw-pm mailing list > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org > > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From KP100012 at exchange.Canada.NCR.com Fri May 30 07:58:08 2003 From: KP100012 at exchange.Canada.NCR.com (Pham, Khue D) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? Message-ID: I will try to come. -----Original Message----- From: lloyd carr [mailto:dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:55 PM To: Daniel R. Allen Cc: Arguile; kw-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: Re: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? I'll be there. Food always sounds good :-) The Testing talk by Michael Graham was excellent, so it would be a shame to waste it, we should maybe hold off till the fall when we have a better chance of a good turnout. I suggest we keep the summer meetings on the lighter side, beer on the patio anyone :-) On Thu, 29 May 2003, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:33:35 -0400 (EDT) > From: Daniel R. Allen > To: Arguile > Cc: kw-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? > > I can ask Toronto.pm members who said they'd love to come up to give a > talk, whether June is good for them. Though, I'm a bit concerned > about whether our summer attendance might be light; I don't want to > have somebody visit and only 4 of us show!... > > Maybe could I get a show of hands from people who are currently > planning to come to our meeting on the 19th? Just drop me an email if > you'd like to come; not a firm committment. I'll wait a few days then > if there are more than, say, 6, ask Toronto folx. > > A question for list discussion: would a different day of week, or an > earlier meeting followed by going somewhere for food, make it more > attractive? :-) > > In case you're curious, we've gotten offers for talks on Testing or > Class::DBI from Michael Graham; and "building PDFs on the fly" from > Richard Dice. Any of these sound great; I missed both of Michael's > talks at YAPC::Canada. > > -Daniel > > http://coder.com/ - Prescient Code Solutions - (519) 575-3733 > da@coder.com > > On 29 May 2003, Arguile wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:06, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > While we're at it, last meeting we had in town, we talked > > > > briefly about mod_perl as a possible topic for a talk. Is > > > > whomever was the authority on that willing to put something > > > > together? > > > > > > Good question. ... > > > > Yes, I've been putting something together for that. I just realised > > however that I have to be at a wedding rehearsal that night... > > > > I can do it for the July one or if someone else familiar with > > mod_perl wants the slides I'm preparing to present that's possible. > > But they wouldn't work as stand alone, the presenter would need to > > be at least pretty familiar w/ mod_perl. > > > > Sorry for the trouble. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kw-pm mailing list > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org _______________________________________________ kw-pm mailing list kw-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm From shuchit at techie.com Fri May 30 08:57:47 2003 From: shuchit at techie.com (Shuchit Velkar) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? Message-ID: <20030530135748.49226.qmail@mail.com> > Maybe could I get a show of hands from people who are currently > planning to come to our meeting on the 19th? Just drop me an email if you'd > like to come; not a firm committment. I'll wait a few days then if there > are more than, say, 6, ask Toronto folx. I will probably show up. Shuchit ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Sat May 31 01:21:24 2003 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So what day is good for you Justin? It's summer we're flexible and we always like to meet new Perl people :-) On Thu, 29 May 2003, Justin Wheeler wrote: > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 23:58:21 -0400 (EDT) > From: Justin Wheeler > To: kw-pm@mail.pm.org > Subject: Re: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? > > I'm not a fan of beer, but I'll have Coke and wings myself. ;) > > ... I'm still yet to come to my first meeting.. been a member for a short > while, but thus far, meetings have fallen on absolutely terrible days for > me. > > I'm hoping to make it to the next one though. > > Regards, > Justin Wheeler > > -- > Never let your mind wander. It's too small to be out on its own. > > On Thu, 29 May 2003, lloyd carr wrote: > > > I'll be there. > > > > Food always sounds good :-) > > > > The Testing talk by Michael Graham was excellent, so it would be a shame > > to waste it, we should maybe hold off till the fall when we have a better > > chance of a good turnout. > > > > I suggest we keep the summer meetings on the lighter side, beer on the > > patio anyone :-) > > > > On Thu, 29 May 2003, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > > > > > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:33:35 -0400 (EDT) > > > From: Daniel R. Allen > > > To: Arguile > > > Cc: kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > > Subject: Re: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? > > > > > > I can ask Toronto.pm members who said they'd love to come up to give a > > > talk, whether June is good for them. Though, I'm a bit concerned about > > > whether our summer attendance might be light; I don't want to have > > > somebody visit and only 4 of us show!... > > > > > > Maybe could I get a show of hands from people who are currently planning > > > to come to our meeting on the 19th? Just drop me an email if you'd like > > > to come; not a firm committment. I'll wait a few days then if there are > > > more than, say, 6, ask Toronto folx. > > > > > > A question for list discussion: would a different day of week, or an > > > earlier meeting followed by going somewhere for food, make it more > > > attractive? :-) > > > > > > In case you're curious, we've gotten offers for talks on Testing or > > > Class::DBI from Michael Graham; and "building PDFs on the fly" from > > > Richard Dice. Any of these sound great; I missed both of Michael's talks > > > at YAPC::Canada. > > > > > > -Daniel > > > > > > http://coder.com/ - Prescient Code Solutions - (519) 575-3733 da@coder.com > > > > > > On 29 May 2003, Arguile wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:06, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > While we're at it, last meeting we had in town, we talked briefly about > > > > > > mod_perl as a possible topic for a talk. Is whomever was the authority on > > > > > > that willing to put something together? > > > > > > > > > > Good question. ... > > > > > > > > Yes, I've been putting something together for that. I just realised > > > > however that I have to be at a wedding rehearsal that night... > > > > > > > > I can do it for the July one or if someone else familiar with mod_perl > > > > wants the slides I'm preparing to present that's possible. But they > > > > wouldn't work as stand alone, the presenter would need to be at least > > > > pretty familiar w/ mod_perl. > > > > > > > > Sorry for the trouble. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > kw-pm mailing list > > > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > kw-pm mailing list > > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > > > > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org > > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kw-pm mailing list > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org From pm at datademons.com Sat May 31 13:30:42 2003 From: pm at datademons.com (Justin Wheeler) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:30 2004 Subject: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The days they're on are normally good days for me.. it's just coincidental that the last few times have turned out to be bad -- had tickets to a hockey game, sister was in a car accident (she's ok), and a family birthday. Regards, Justin Wheeler -- E Pluribus Modem On Sat, 31 May 2003, lloyd carr wrote: > So what day is good for you Justin? > It's summer we're flexible and we always like to meet new Perl people :-) > > On Thu, 29 May 2003, Justin Wheeler wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 23:58:21 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Justin Wheeler > > To: kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > Subject: Re: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? > > > > I'm not a fan of beer, but I'll have Coke and wings myself. ;) > > > > ... I'm still yet to come to my first meeting.. been a member for a short > > while, but thus far, meetings have fallen on absolutely terrible days for > > me. > > > > I'm hoping to make it to the next one though. > > > > Regards, > > Justin Wheeler > > > > -- > > Never let your mind wander. It's too small to be out on its own. > > > > On Thu, 29 May 2003, lloyd carr wrote: > > > > > I'll be there. > > > > > > Food always sounds good :-) > > > > > > The Testing talk by Michael Graham was excellent, so it would be a shame > > > to waste it, we should maybe hold off till the fall when we have a better > > > chance of a good turnout. > > > > > > I suggest we keep the summer meetings on the lighter side, beer on the > > > patio anyone :-) > > > > > > On Thu, 29 May 2003, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:33:35 -0400 (EDT) > > > > From: Daniel R. Allen > > > > To: Arguile > > > > Cc: kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > > > Subject: Re: [kw-pm] How was YAPC::CA? > > > > > > > > I can ask Toronto.pm members who said they'd love to come up to give a > > > > talk, whether June is good for them. Though, I'm a bit concerned about > > > > whether our summer attendance might be light; I don't want to have > > > > somebody visit and only 4 of us show!... > > > > > > > > Maybe could I get a show of hands from people who are currently planning > > > > to come to our meeting on the 19th? Just drop me an email if you'd like > > > > to come; not a firm committment. I'll wait a few days then if there are > > > > more than, say, 6, ask Toronto folx. > > > > > > > > A question for list discussion: would a different day of week, or an > > > > earlier meeting followed by going somewhere for food, make it more > > > > attractive? :-) > > > > > > > > In case you're curious, we've gotten offers for talks on Testing or > > > > Class::DBI from Michael Graham; and "building PDFs on the fly" from > > > > Richard Dice. Any of these sound great; I missed both of Michael's talks > > > > at YAPC::Canada. > > > > > > > > -Daniel > > > > > > > > http://coder.com/ - Prescient Code Solutions - (519) 575-3733 da@coder.com > > > > > > > > On 29 May 2003, Arguile wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:06, Daniel R. Allen wrote: > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > While we're at it, last meeting we had in town, we talked briefly about > > > > > > > mod_perl as a possible topic for a talk. Is whomever was the authority on > > > > > > > that willing to put something together? > > > > > > > > > > > > Good question. ... > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I've been putting something together for that. I just realised > > > > > however that I have to be at a wedding rehearsal that night... > > > > > > > > > > I can do it for the July one or if someone else familiar with mod_perl > > > > > wants the slides I'm preparing to present that's possible. But they > > > > > wouldn't work as stand alone, the presenter would need to be at least > > > > > pretty familiar w/ mod_perl. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the trouble. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > kw-pm mailing list > > > > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > kw-pm mailing list > > > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > > > > > > > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org > > > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > kw-pm mailing list > > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kw-pm mailing list > > kw-pm@mail.pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org > >