From ali at ali.org.ua  Thu Aug  4 13:09:01 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 23:09:01 +0300
Subject: memory leaks and core file
In-Reply-To: <CAJoOBmwk=A7VSnpjDkk0J3OU2s8OnB9=gNa3XJ5E+9HcQpYH_Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On 04.08.2011 22:59, Sergey Leschenko wrote:
> 2011/8/4 Oleg Alistratov <ali at ali.org.ua>:
>>> ????? ????, ??? ????? - ??? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ??????????? ?
>>> DBI, ????????? ? ????.
>> ??????, ? ?? ??? ??? ????? ???????
>> http://search.cpan.org/~pythian/DBD-Oracle-1.28/Oracle.pm#Row_Prefetching
>>
>> ??? ?????????? $sth->{RowsInCache}?
> ???, ? ???? ???????? ?? MySQL ?????? ? ?? ????? ?????? ??????.
> ?????? ?? ????? ??????? - ????????, ?  ????? ???? { my $var = 1 }
> ?????????? ??? leak.
> ???? ?????? ????? ???? ?? ??? ?? ??????  ? ??????? ????????????????.

?????, ?????? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ????????, ??? ??????
??????-?????? Devel::Size

> ????? ???? ????? - ????????? ????????? ? ??????? ?? ???????? (template
> body ;-) ).

????????? :)
> ?? ???-?? ??? ?????????, ???? ???? ?????? ?????-?? ??????????  ???
> ?????????? ?????????? ??????.
>
????? ?????? ?? ????????????????.

--
???? ??????????


From sergle.ua at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 12:59:25 2011
From: sergle.ua at gmail.com (Sergey Leschenko)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 22:59:25 +0300
Subject: memory leaks and core file
In-Reply-To: <4E3AD9C4.80504@ali.org.ua>
References: <CAJoOBmzKhEuqT0VBdyftzoEa42CT+jA0q=whh-BkKhcur3nYzQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <4E2EF8BD.1050101@gmail.com> <CAJoOBmzcCDR7xu7=K0Ku7JFxk+z1vOwk7SxrPRTw=5iQaS5_0g@mail.gmail.com>
 <4E3AD9C4.80504@ali.org.ua>
Message-ID: <CAJoOBmwk=A7VSnpjDkk0J3OU2s8OnB9=gNa3XJ5E+9HcQpYH_Q@mail.gmail.com>

2011/8/4 Oleg Alistratov <ali at ali.org.ua>:
>> ????? ????, ??? ????? - ??? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ??????????? ?
>> DBI, ????????? ? ????.
>
> ??????, ? ?? ??? ??? ????? ???????
> http://search.cpan.org/~pythian/DBD-Oracle-1.28/Oracle.pm#Row_Prefetching
>
> ??? ?????????? $sth->{RowsInCache}?

???, ? ???? ???????? ?? MySQL ?????? ? ?? ????? ?????? ??????.
?????? ?? ????? ??????? - ????????, ?  ????? ???? { my $var = 1 }
?????????? ??? leak.
???? ?????? ????? ???? ?? ??? ?? ??????  ? ??????? ????????????????.

????? ???? ????? - ????????? ????????? ? ??????? ?? ???????? (template
body ;-) ).
?? ???-?? ??? ?????????, ???? ???? ?????? ?????-?? ??????????  ???
?????????? ?????????? ??????.

-- 
Sergey

From ali at ali.org.ua  Thu Aug  4 10:41:24 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:41:24 +0300
Subject: memory leaks and core file
In-Reply-To: <CAJoOBmzcCDR7xu7=K0Ku7JFxk+z1vOwk7SxrPRTw=5iQaS5_0g@mail.gmail.com>
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On 26.07.2011 22:28, Sergey Leschenko wrote:
> ????? ????, ??? ????? - ??? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ??????????? ?
> DBI, ????????? ? ????. 

??????, ? ?? ??? ??? ????? ???????
http://search.cpan.org/~pythian/DBD-Oracle-1.28/Oracle.pm#Row_Prefetching

??? ?????????? $sth->{RowsInCache}?

--
???? ??????????



From zukoff at ukr.net  Mon Aug 15 02:37:36 2011
From: zukoff at ukr.net (=?utf-8?B?enVrb2ZmQHVrci5uZXQ=?=)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:37:36 +0300
Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IGtpZXYucG06INCY0YnRgyDQv9GA0LjQtdC80L3QuNC60LA=?=
Message-ID: <4e48e8e5.d13edf0a.2ef0.7ad0SMTPIN_ADDED@gmr-mx.google.com>

??????????! ??????? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???????, ??????? ????????? ? ? ???????.
? ??? ????!

? ?????????,
?????????

----- Reply message -----
From: "Yaroslav" <ykorshak at gmail.com>
To: <kiev-perl-users-group at googlegroups.com>
Subject: kiev.pm: ??? ?????????
Date: Mon, Aug 15, 2011 12:25


??????, ???????!

???? ??? ??? ????????????? ???? ?????????? Kiev.pm ?? ????????? ? ?????? ?? ??????.
? ??????? ??? ??????, ???? ????????? ????????? ???????, ? ???? ????? ??? ???? ?? ????? pm.org

--
Regards
yko


On 08/15/2011 12:02 PM, Serg Gulko wrote:
> ???????!
>
> ???? ???????????? ???????????, ??? ? ???????????? ??? ?????? kiev.pm
> ????? ?????????? ??????? ??????. ?? ??? ??????? ????, ??? ???????
> ??????????? ? ???????????? ? ? ???????, ??? ?????????? kiev.pm ?????
> ??????? ???????????.
>
> ? ?????????,
> ?????? ??????


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From ykorshak at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 02:25:55 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:25:55 +0300
Subject: kiev.pm: =?UTF-8?B?0JjRidGDINC/0YDQuNC10LzQvdC40LrQsA==?=
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References: <ca38a0be-0a6d-4d36-8ae3-1d173d013c11@e15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <4E30F9F9.2030900@gmail.com> <1311832938.4566.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <15a136b2-014e-42e3-b5c8-96789619c3ce@b19g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <4E48E623.1050104@gmail.com>


??????, ???????!

???? ??? ??? ????????????? ???? ?????????? Kiev.pm ?? ????????? ? ?????? 
?? ??????.
? ??????? ??? ??????, ???? ????????? ????????? ???????, ? ???? ????? ??? 
???? ?? ????? pm.org

--
Regards
yko


On 08/15/2011 12:02 PM, Serg Gulko wrote:
> ???????!
>
> ???? ???????????? ???????????, ??? ? ???????????? ??? ?????? kiev.pm
> ????? ?????????? ??????? ??????. ?? ??? ??????? ????, ??? ???????
> ??????????? ? ???????????? ? ? ???????, ??? ?????????? kiev.pm ?????
> ??????? ???????????.
>
> ? ?????????,
> ?????? ??????


From dim.chernenko at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 02:07:10 2011
From: dim.chernenko at gmail.com (Dmitriy Chernenko)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:07:10 +0300
Subject: kiev.pm: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E9=DD=D5_=D0=D2=C9=C5=CD=CE=C9=CB=C1?=
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Message-ID: <4E48E1BE.9050900@gmail.com>


????? ???????? ?? ????? ?????????, ? ??? ?? ???, ??????!

??????? ?? ???? ????????? ?????? ? ????????????? ????????? ? ??????? ?? 
??? ??????.

? ?????????, ??????? ????????
> ???????!
>
> ???? ???????????? ???????????, ??? ? ???????????? ??? ?????? kiev.pm
> ????? ?????????? ??????? ??????. ?? ??? ??????? ????, ??? ???????
> ??????????? ? ???????????? ? ? ???????, ??? ?????????? kiev.pm ?????
> ??????? ???????????.
>
> ? ?????????,
> ?????? ??????



From s.gulko at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 02:02:05 2011
From: s.gulko at gmail.com (Serg Gulko)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 02:02:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: =?KOI8-R?B?UmU6IGtpZXYucG06IOnd1SDQ0snFzc7Jy8E=?=
In-Reply-To: <1311832938.4566.19.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <ca38a0be-0a6d-4d36-8ae3-1d173d013c11@e15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
 <4E30F9F9.2030900@gmail.com> <1311832938.4566.19.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <15a136b2-014e-42e3-b5c8-96789619c3ce@b19g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>

???????!

???? ???????????? ???????????, ??? ? ???????????? ??? ?????? kiev.pm
????? ?????????? ??????? ??????. ?? ??? ??????? ????, ??? ???????
??????????? ? ???????????? ? ? ???????, ??? ?????????? kiev.pm ?????
??????? ???????????.

? ?????????,
?????? ??????

From maxim.vuets at gmail.com  Fri Aug 12 00:15:57 2011
From: maxim.vuets at gmail.com (Maxim Vuets)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:15:57 +0300
Subject: =?KOI8-R?B?UmU6IPfT1NLF3sEgS2lldi5wbSAxMS8wOC8xMQ==?=
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2011/8/4 Yaroslav Korshak <ykorshak at gmail.com>:

> ? ??????? ????????? ??????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ??????,
> ? ? ??? ??? ????????? ????????? ????? ??????????.
> ??? ?? ????? ????????? ??????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????????
> ? ????????? ??????? 11/08/11 ? 19:00 ? Coffee Life http://bit.ly/ncRyrp
> ??? ?????????? ? ????????? ? ??????????? ?????????? ??????.

??????? ??????????! ? ?????????? ????? ??????, ? ??????. ?????, ?????,
??-??????? ? ? ?????? ?????? (? ????? ??????-??????). (:

???????, ?? ???????, ??? ??????? ? ??????????? ???????? ???????????.
??? ???????!

??????? ????? ??????? ? ???????????? ?????. ??? ??? ??????????? ?????
????? ??? APL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APL_(programming_language)#Examples
????????: (~R?R?.?R)/R?1??R ??????? ??? ??????? ????? ?? 1 ?? R (%

-- 
maxim.vuets.name

From ali at ali.org.ua  Thu Aug 11 14:18:04 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:18:04 +0300
Subject: =?KOI8-R?Q?=F7=D3=D4=D2=C5=DE=C1_Kiev=2Epm_11/08/11?=
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Message-ID: <4E44470C.2090701@ali.org.ua>




????????? ???????, ??? ? ?????????? kiev.pm ????????? ???? ?????.
?? ??????? ?????? ? ????? 70 ??? 00 ???.

???????? ?????????? ? ????? ????????? ?? ???????????? ?????,
??? ??: ?????? ????????, ????????, ????????? ??? ???????? ??????.

???????????? ?????? ??????????????.

??: ???? ???????, ??? ??????, ??? ????? ??? ????????????? ? ????.





--
???? ?????????? aka ???


From ykorshak at gmail.com  Thu Aug 11 02:50:26 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:50:26 +0300
Subject: =?KOI8-R?Q?=F7=D3=D4=D2=C5=DE=C1_Kiev=2Epm_11/08/11?=
In-Reply-To: <CAMacAtJ718mg-0UUp81gAihyX-8ZkvzFZG1besra3xLBA7RpPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E3A3CCE.2030401@gmail.com> <CAMacAtJ718mg-0UUp81gAihyX-8ZkvzFZG1besra3xLBA7RpPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E43A5E2.5080703@gmail.com>


??????? ?????, ????? ??? ?? ?????.

??????? ??? ????????, ?????????? ?? ? ?????? ?? ???? ???.

--
Regards
yko

On 08/11/2011 12:47 PM, Denis Zhdanov wrote:
> ?????? ????!
> ????? ?? ??????????, ??????? ??????


From denis.zhdanov at gmail.com  Thu Aug 11 02:47:12 2011
From: denis.zhdanov at gmail.com (Denis Zhdanov)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:47:12 +0300
Subject: =?KOI8-R?B?UmU6IPfT1NLF3sEgS2lldi5wbSAxMS8wOC8xMQ==?=
In-Reply-To: <4E3A3CCE.2030401@gmail.com>
References: <4E3A3CCE.2030401@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMacAtJ718mg-0UUp81gAihyX-8ZkvzFZG1besra3xLBA7RpPw@mail.gmail.com>

?????? ????!
????? ?? ??????????, ??????? ??????

4 ??????? 2011??. 9:31 ???????????? Yaroslav Korshak
<ykorshak at gmail.com> ???????:
> ???????!
>
> ? ??????? ????????? ??????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ??????,
> ? ? ??? ??? ????????? ????????? ????? ??????????.
> ??? ?? ????? ????????? ??????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????????
> ? ????????? ??????? 11/08/11 ? 19:00 ? Coffee Life http://bit.ly/ncRyrp
> ??? ?????????? ? ????????? ? ??????????? ?????????? ??????.
>
> ?????, ??? ????????? ????????? ??????? ????????? ????????????? ????,
> ??????????? ??????????? ????? ? ?????? ??????????? ?????????????? ???????.
> ?????????, ????????? ? ????, ???? ?????? ???????? ??????????? ????????????
> ???????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ????????.
>
> ?? ???????? ? ????????? ?????????, ??? ?????????? ????? ?????
> ? ?????? ?? ?????????? ? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ????????.
> ? ??????? ??? ?? ???????? ??????????? ????????, ?????? ?????????? ??
> ?????????.
> ????????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ???????? ????? ?????????? ???????????,
> ????? ? ???????? ??? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?????????.
>
> ???? ?????????? ????????? ? ??????? ?????? ??? ???????? ??????.
> ??????? ??????? git push!
>
> --
> Regards
> yko
>

From ali at ali.org.ua  Thu Aug  4 10:47:16 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:47:16 +0300
Subject: =?KOI8-R?Q?=F7=D3=D4=D2=C5=DE=C1_Kiev=2Epm_11/08/11?=
In-Reply-To: <CAMacAtLz=EXA_zfKq0M=188oDf2pnjEFsQPhU+uSTtGf8=pfog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4E3A3CCE.2030401@gmail.com> <CAMacAtLz=EXA_zfKq0M=188oDf2pnjEFsQPhU+uSTtGf8=pfog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E3ADB24.7040408@ali.org.ua>




On 04.08.2011 12:06, Denis Zhdanov wrote:
> ?????? ????!
> ??????? ?? ? ???????. :) ???? ???????.

? ? ????. ?????? ???, ?????? ;) ???? ?? ??????? ????-????????? ?????.

--
???? ??????????




From denis.zhdanov at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 02:06:50 2011
From: denis.zhdanov at gmail.com (Denis Zhdanov)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:06:50 +0300
Subject: =?KOI8-R?B?UmU6IPfT1NLF3sEgS2lldi5wbSAxMS8wOC8xMQ==?=
In-Reply-To: <4E3A3CCE.2030401@gmail.com>
References: <4E3A3CCE.2030401@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMacAtLz=EXA_zfKq0M=188oDf2pnjEFsQPhU+uSTtGf8=pfog@mail.gmail.com>

?????? ????!
??????? ?? ? ???????. :) ???? ???????.

4 ??????? 2011??. 9:31 ???????????? Yaroslav Korshak
<ykorshak at gmail.com> ???????:
> ???????!
>
> ? ??????? ????????? ??????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ??????,
> ? ? ??? ??? ????????? ????????? ????? ??????????.
> ??? ?? ????? ????????? ??????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????????
> ? ????????? ??????? 11/08/11 ? 19:00 ? Coffee Life http://bit.ly/ncRyrp
> ??? ?????????? ? ????????? ? ??????????? ?????????? ??????.
>
> ?????, ??? ????????? ????????? ??????? ????????? ????????????? ????,
> ??????????? ??????????? ????? ? ?????? ??????????? ?????????????? ???????.
> ?????????, ????????? ? ????, ???? ?????? ???????? ??????????? ????????????
> ???????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ????????.
>
> ?? ???????? ? ????????? ?????????, ??? ?????????? ????? ?????
> ? ?????? ?? ?????????? ? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ????????.
> ? ??????? ??? ?? ???????? ??????????? ????????, ?????? ?????????? ??
> ?????????.
> ????????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ???????? ????? ?????????? ???????????,
> ????? ? ???????? ??? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?????????.
>
> ???? ?????????? ????????? ? ??????? ?????? ??? ???????? ??????.
> ??????? ??????? git push!
>
> --
> Regards
> yko
>

From ykorshak at gmail.com  Wed Aug  3 23:31:42 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav Korshak)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:31:42 +0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?0JLRgdGC0YDQtdGH0LAgS2lldi5wbSAxMS8wOC8xMQ==?=
Message-ID: <4E3A3CCE.2030401@gmail.com>


???????!

? ??????? ????????? ??????? ?????? ???????? ?????? ??????,
? ? ??? ??? ????????? ????????? ????? ??????????.
??? ?? ????? ????????? ??????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????????
? ????????? ??????? 11/08/11 ? 19:00 ? Coffee Life http://bit.ly/ncRyrp
??? ?????????? ? ????????? ? ??????????? ?????????? ??????.

?????, ??? ????????? ????????? ??????? ????????? ????????????? ????,
??????????? ??????????? ????? ? ?????? ??????????? ?????????????? ???????.
?????????, ????????? ? ????, ???? ?????? ???????? ??????????? ????????????
???????? ?????? ??? ?????????? ????????.

?? ???????? ? ????????? ?????????, ??? ?????????? ????? ?????
? ?????? ?? ?????????? ? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ????????.
? ??????? ??? ?? ???????? ??????????? ????????, ?????? ?????????? ?? 
?????????.
????????? ?? ??????? ?????????? ???????? ????? ?????????? ???????????,
????? ? ???????? ??? ?????? ???????? ?????? ?????????.

???? ?????????? ????????? ? ??????? ?????? ??? ???????? ??????.
??????? ??????? git push!

--
Regards
yko


From ali at ali.org.ua  Wed Aug 10 06:56:37 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:56:37 +0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?0L7Qv9GA0L7RgSDQviBwZXJsY3JpdGljL3Blcmx0aWR5?=
In-Reply-To: <CAKckDDDK3-Ow1QzvQiKXFx0e2emK3RU9nLJ1USbBahT3FDKDiA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4E428E15.9060304@ali.org.ua>




On 10.08.2011 14:51, Sergiy Borodych wrote:
> - ??? ?? ?????????? ? ????????????? ????? ??????? ??? perlcritic/perltidy ?
?????? ???????.
> - ??????????? ?? ??/???? ??????? perlcritic/perltidy ? ?????????? ?
????????? ????????, ????? ????????? ????.
> - ???? ???????????, ?? ??? ?
>   ? ??????, ? ?????????? ? VCS (pre/post commit hooks), ?????? ??????? ?

?????? ? ??????, ????? ? ???? ????????? ????????????.
> - ????????? ???? ??????? ?????????? ?? default ?
>   ??? ?????????? ??????? ?? ???????? ? ? ??????????? ?????? ????????????? ?
? ???? perlcriticrc ???? 40 ??????????. ???? ???-?????? ???????? ????
??? ????????? "??????? ???????" :)

????? ????? ?????????. ?????? ????? ????????? ? ?????????? ??????
????????????? ?????
???: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/programming/118510/

--
???? ??????????





From viacheslav.t at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 05:12:33 2011
From: viacheslav.t at gmail.com (vti)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:12:33 +0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?0L7Qv9GA0L7RgSDQviBwZXJsY3JpdGljL3Blcmx0aWR5?=
In-Reply-To: <CAKckDDDK3-Ow1QzvQiKXFx0e2emK3RU9nLJ1USbBahT3FDKDiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKckDDDK3-Ow1QzvQiKXFx0e2emK3RU9nLJ1USbBahT3FDKDiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E4275B1.40001@gmail.com>


> - ??? ?? ?????????? ? ????????????? ????? ??????? ??? perlcritic/perltidy ?

????????????. ?? ??? ?????????, ???????. ????????? BP ?? ????????
????????, ?? ? ? ??????? ???? ??????? ???????????? ????.

> - ??????????? ?? ??/???? ??????? perlcritic/perltidy ? ?????????? ?

??????? ?? ??????????, ?? ? ????????? ??? ???????, ??????? ???? ?? CPAN.

> - ???? ???????????, ?? ??? ?
>   ? ??????, ? ?????????? ? VCS (pre/post commit hooks), ?????? ??????? ?

??????? ?? ??????????? ????.

> - ????????? ???? ??????? ?????????? ?? default ?

? ???????? ? ???????? ?????????????? ????????? ???????? ? ????????????
???????????.

>   ??? ?????????? ??????? ?? ???????? ? ? ??????????? ?????? ????????????? ?

??????????? ?? ????????. ? ?????? ??????? ?????? ???? ????? ??????????
????, ???????? ? ?????????????. ???? ????? ?????????? ?? ??????? :)
?????? ????????? ??????? ???????? ?? ?????? ?????????????.

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From ykorshak at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 05:02:53 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:02:53 +0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?0L7Qv9GA0L7RgSDQviBwZXJsY3JpdGljL3Blcmx0aWR5?=
In-Reply-To: <CAKckDDDK3-Ow1QzvQiKXFx0e2emK3RU9nLJ1USbBahT3FDKDiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKckDDDK3-Ow1QzvQiKXFx0e2emK3RU9nLJ1USbBahT3FDKDiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E42736D.9050303@gmail.com>


??? ????? ????????? ??? ? #ru.pm


On 08/10/2011 02:51 PM, Sergiy Borodych wrote:
> Hello Perl Mongers,
>
> ????? ?? ???????? ????????? ????????,
>   ?? ? ?????? ???????? ????? ????.
>
> - ??? ?? ?????????? ? ????????????? ????? ??????? ??? perlcritic/perltidy ?

perltidy ????????? ??????????????? ? vim:
https://github.com/yko/dotfiles/blob/master/.perltidyrc
https://github.com/yko/dotfiles/blob/master/.vimrc#L103

perlcritic ????????? ??????????????? ? ??????:
https://github.com/yko/monitis-api/blob/master/t/perlcritic.t

?????? ??? ????????? ????????? ??????? ? ?????????
module-starter + Module::Starter::PBP

? ??????????, ??? ??????? ???????  Module::Starter::PBP ????? ??????? 
???????? ???????????, ??? ???????? ???????? :(

???? ?? ?????.

>    ??? ?????????? ??????? ?? ???????? ? ? ??????????? ?????? ????????????? ?

? ???????? ?? ???????? ??????? ?? ????????. ??? ????? ???????? ? 
???????? ???????????:

https://github.com/kraih/mojo/commit/e8805d1c235bdc6c9ce3260eafd7fee234c57962

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From sergiy.borodych at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 04:51:54 2011
From: sergiy.borodych at gmail.com (Sergiy Borodych)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:51:54 +0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?0L7Qv9GA0L7RgSDQviBwZXJsY3JpdGljL3Blcmx0aWR5?=
Message-ID: <CAKckDDDK3-Ow1QzvQiKXFx0e2emK3RU9nLJ1USbBahT3FDKDiA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Perl Mongers,

????? ?? ???????? ????????? ????????,
 ?? ? ?????? ???????? ????? ????.

- ??? ?? ?????????? ? ????????????? ????? ??????? ??? perlcritic/perltidy ?

- ??????????? ?? ??/???? ??????? perlcritic/perltidy ? ?????????? ?

- ???? ???????????, ?? ??? ?
  ? ??????, ? ?????????? ? VCS (pre/post commit hooks), ?????? ??????? ?

- ????????? ???? ??????? ?????????? ?? default ?
  ??? ?????????? ??????? ?? ???????? ? ? ??????????? ?????? ????????????? ?


??????? ??????? ?? ??????.

P.S.
??? ?????? perlcritic/perltidy ????? ????????? ? ???? ????????????
?????????? ??? ?????????? :)

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From nordicdyno at yandex.ru  Thu Aug 11 03:05:38 2011
From: nordicdyno at yandex.ru (Orlovsky Alexander)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:05:38 +0400
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?koi8-r?b?ZXhpc3RzINcgQF8=?=
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10.08.2011, 20:28, "Oleg Alistratov" <ali at ali.org.ua>:
> On 10.08.2011 18:54, Alexandr Gomoliako wrote:
>
>> ?On 8/10/11, Oleg Alistratov <ali at ali.org.ua> wrote:
>>> ???????? ??????? ?? ????????? LRU"
>> ?P.S. ??????? ??????? LRU XS ?? cpan, ????? ????????????:
>> ?http://search.cpan.org/~zzz/Tie-Hash-LRU-0.04/lib/Tie/Hash/LRU.pm
>
> ???????! ???????? ? ??????? ?????.
>


? ??????????, ??? ??? ????? ???? ???????? )
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From ali at ali.org.ua  Thu Aug 11 00:43:06 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:43:06 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?utf-8?b?ZXhpc3RzINCyIEBf?=
In-Reply-To: <CAFtO3f=1Y_a7N8xKpbUTVcgAAxxf0mcJWcPxG9Axk6F6vxipTQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10.08.2011 19:40, Yury Pats wrote:

> ???????????, ??????? ?? ????????????.

?? ????????????, ???? ???????????? ?? ?????? ? "???????",
?? ?????? ????????? ????? ??????? ? ?????? ????, ? ?????? %)
?????????? ????, ??? ??? @_ ????? ?????????.

> ???? ??????? ?????? ??? ????????? ?????????? Params::Validate

? ????, ???????. ?? ??? ?? ?? ????? ???,
????? ???? ????????? @_ < $n ?????.



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From ali at ali.org.ua  Wed Aug 10 10:32:02 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 20:32:02 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?utf-8?b?ZXhpc3RzINCyIEBf?=
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On 10.08.2011 19:42, Dmitry Karpich wrote:
> ???? ????? ??????? - ?? ?????, ?????? ???? ??????? @_ ? ?????????
> ??????????.
>
> http://ideone.com/vcUZt
>
> ??????, ??????????????, ? ???? ????, ???????? :)

?? ?? ???????. ? ???? ? ??? ????? ??? ????????.

?? ??? ? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??????????? Mojolicious
:)

>> Can't use string ("element") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use
at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Mojo/Base.pm line 55.

????? ? ????? ??????? ????? ????? ?? ? ????????????? exists ? ????????
???????.
? ?? ??????????.



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From yu.pats at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 09:54:52 2011
From: yu.pats at gmail.com (Yury Pats)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:54:52 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?utf-8?b?ZXhpc3RzINCyIEBf?=
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???? ??????? ?????? ??? ????????? ?????????? Params::Validate
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From zzz at zzz.org.ua  Wed Aug 10 09:46:31 2011
From: zzz at zzz.org.ua (Alexandr Gomoliako)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:46:31 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?koi8-r?b?ZXhpc3RzINcgQF8=?=
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On 8/10/11, Dmitry Karpich <meettya at gmail.com> wrote:
> ???? ????? ??????? - ?? ?????, ?????? ???? ??????? @_ ? ?????????
> ??????????.

> http://ideone.com/vcUZt

???? ?? ?? ?????, ?? ????? ??? ??? ????????? ?????????? ??????:
dump_array my @b = (0, undef, 2);
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From meettya at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 09:42:16 2011
From: meettya at gmail.com (Dmitry Karpich)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 20:42:16 +0400
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?utf-8?b?ZXhpc3RzINCyIEBf?=
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???? ????? ??????? - ?? ?????, ?????? ???? ??????? @_ ? ????????? ??????????.

http://ideone.com/vcUZt

??????, ??????????????, ? ???? ????, ???????? :)


On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Oleg Alistratov wrote:

> 
> 
> On 10.08.2011 18:57, Yury Pats wrote:
>> 
>> ????????? ??? ???????, ????? ????????? ????????????? ?????????????
>> ???????? ? ???????, ??? ?? ?? ???????.
>> 
>> 
> 
> ?????????, ??. ?? ???? TIMTOWTDI.
> 
> ????? ???:
>   scalar(@a) < 3
> 
> ? ????? ???? ?? ? ???:
>  ! exists($a[3])
> 
> ?? ? @_ ??????????? ???????????.
> 
> 
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From yu.pats at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 09:40:42 2011
From: yu.pats at gmail.com (Yury Pats)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:40:42 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?utf-8?b?ZXhpc3RzINCyIEBf?=
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???????????, ??????? ?? ????????????.

On Aug 10, 2011 7:32 PM, "Oleg Alistratov" <ali at ali.org.ua> wrote:
>
>
> On 10.08.2011 18:57, Yury Pats wrote:
>>
>> ????????? ??? ???????, ????? ????????? ????????????? ?????????????
>> ???????? ? ???????, ??? ?? ?? ???????.
>>
>>
>
> ?????????, ??. ?? ???? TIMTOWTDI.
>
> ????? ???:
> scalar(@a) < 3
>
> ? ????? ???? ?? ? ???:
> ! exists($a[3])
>
> ?? ? @_ ??????????? ???????????.
>
>
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From ali at ali.org.ua  Wed Aug 10 09:30:25 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:30:25 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?koi8-r?b?ZXhpc3RzINcgQF8=?=
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On 10.08.2011 18:57, Yury Pats wrote:
>
> ????????? ??? ???????, ????? ????????? ????????????? ?????????????
> ???????? ? ???????, ??? ?? ?? ???????.
>
>

?????????, ??. ?? ???? TIMTOWTDI.

????? ???:
   scalar(@a) < 3

? ????? ???? ?? ? ???:
  ! exists($a[3])

?? ? @_ ??????????? ???????????.


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From ali at ali.org.ua  Wed Aug 10 09:28:03 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:28:03 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?koi8-r?b?ZXhpc3RzINcgQF8=?=
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On 10.08.2011 18:54, Alexandr Gomoliako wrote:
> On 8/10/11, Oleg Alistratov <ali at ali.org.ua> wrote:
>> ??????? ??????? ?? ????????? LRU"
> P.S. ??????? ??????? LRU XS ?? cpan, ????? ????????????:
> http://search.cpan.org/~zzz/Tie-Hash-LRU-0.04/lib/Tie/Hash/LRU.pm

???????! ???????? ? ??????? ?????.

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From yu.pats at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 08:57:34 2011
From: yu.pats at gmail.com (Yury Pats)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:57:34 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?utf-8?b?ZXhpc3RzINCyIEBf?=
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????????? ??? ???????, ????? ????????? ????????????? ????????????? ????????
? ???????, ??? ?? ?? ???????.

On Aug 10, 2011 6:54 PM, "Oleg Alistratov" <ali at ali.org.ua> wrote:
>
>
> On 10.08.2011 17:21, Nikita Zubkov wrote:
>> http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/exists.html
>>
>> "Be aware that calling exists on array values is deprecated and likely
>> to be removed in a future version of Perl."
> ????? ? ???, ??? ??? ?????????????? ???????? ? 5.12, ? exists ? ????????
> ??? ?????
> ?????????? ? ?????. ?? ????????????????? ? ???? ???????? ?????? ?
> ??????? ???????
> ? ??????, ?????? ?? ??????? ???.
>
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From zzz at zzz.org.ua  Wed Aug 10 08:54:37 2011
From: zzz at zzz.org.ua (Alexandr Gomoliako)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:54:37 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?koi8-r?b?ZXhpc3RzINcgQF8=?=
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On 8/10/11, Oleg Alistratov <ali at ali.org.ua> wrote:
> ??????? ??????? ?? ????????? LRU"

P.S. ??????? ??????? LRU XS ?? cpan, ????? ????????????:
http://search.cpan.org/~zzz/Tie-Hash-LRU-0.04/lib/Tie/Hash/LRU.pm
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From zzz at zzz.org.ua  Wed Aug 10 08:48:59 2011
From: zzz at zzz.org.ua (Alexandr Gomoliako)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:48:59 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?koi8-r?b?ZXhpc3RzINcgQF8=?=
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On 8/10/11, Nikita Zubkov <nikzubkov at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/exists.html
>
> "Be aware that calling exists on array values is deprecated and likely
> to be removed in a future version of Perl."

exists ??? ?????? ?? ??????, ?? ?????? ?????? ??????? ??? ????????:
use Devel::Peek; Dump \@_;
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From ali at ali.org.ua  Wed Aug 10 08:51:49 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:51:49 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?utf-8?b?ZXhpc3RzINCyIEBf?=
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On 10.08.2011 17:21, Nikita Zubkov wrote:
> http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/exists.html
>
> "Be aware that calling exists on array values is deprecated and likely
> to be removed in a future version of Perl."
????? ? ???, ??? ??? ?????????????? ???????? ? 5.12, ? exists ? ????????
??? ?????
?????????? ? ?????. ?? ????????????????? ? ???? ???????? ?????? ?
??????? ???????
? ??????, ?????? ?? ??????? ???.

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From ali at ali.org.ua  Wed Aug 10 07:29:02 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:29:02 +0300
Subject: exists =?UTF-8?B?0LIgQF8=?=
In-Reply-To: <4E42918C.2090202@gmail.com>
References: <4E429003.50804@ali.org.ua> <4E42918C.2090202@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E4295AE.10007@ali.org.ua>




On 10.08.2011 17:11, und3f wrote:
>                 *Be aware* that calling exists on array
>                values is deprecated and likely to be removed in a future
>                version of Perl.

?????? ??? ????????? ? 5.12, ? ??????? ??? ?????? ???????,
?????? ??? ???????? ??? ????????? ? ???? ???????.
>
> ????? ???????? ?? ?????????????? ???????? `defined $_[$i]' ?? ????
> ????? ??? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
> ??? ??????? ????? ??????? ??? ???????? ? ??? ???? ??????????????? ?
> ???????? ???? ?? ?????, ??????? ????????? ??????? ????????? ?????
> ????? ?????????? ????????? ? ???????.

???????, ???. ? ??? ?? ? ????, ??? ? ??????????? ???? ??????? ???????
_??????????_,
?? ?????? ? ???????? ?????, ? exists ?????????? false.

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From nikzubkov at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 07:21:28 2011
From: nikzubkov at gmail.com (Nikita Zubkov)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:21:28 +0400
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?utf-8?b?ZXhpc3RzINCyIEBf?=
In-Reply-To: <4E429003.50804@ali.org.ua>
References: <4E429003.50804@ali.org.ua>
Message-ID: <CAA4UdcSiw59U_KJZgpy9MhHRJyUsPS9NCv9UprN_XYVjGHwJnQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/exists.html

"Be aware that calling exists on array values is deprecated and likely
to be removed in a future version of Perl."

2011/8/10 Oleg Alistratov <ali at ali.org.ua>:
>
> ??????,
>
> ?, ???????, ???????, ??? @_ ?????? ?????? ??????????,
> ?? ? ?? ?????? ??????, ?? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ?????.
>
> ??? ???: http://ideone.com/0BeFd
> ??? ?? ? ????????? ??????????.
>
> exists ??? ???????? @_ ?? ???????????? ?????????, ???? @_
> ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ??????, ? ?? ?????????????????? ??????????.
>
> ?????????????? ? ?????? 8, 10, 12.
>
> ?????? ???????? ? ???????????? ?? ?????, ?????????? ????????? ?????,
> ?? ???? ?? ??? ? ????? ????????? ?? ??????? ?? ??? ????? ?????????.
> ??? ?????, ??? ???????? ? ???? ??? ?? ?????? "?? ?????????? ??????
> ??? ?????????? ???????? ? ???? ??? ?????????? ???????? ???? ? ???????????
> ??????? ??????? ?? ????????? LRU" :) ??????????????, ??????? ???? ???????
> ? ???????.
>
> ??????, ???????, ??????, ???? ??? ??. ? ??? ?? ????.
>
>
> --
> ???? ??????????
> --
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>



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From asyakin at post.km.ru  Wed Aug 10 07:21:30 2011
From: asyakin at post.km.ru (Andrey Asyakin)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:21:30 +0400
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?koi8-r?b?ZXhpc3RzINcgQF8=?=
In-Reply-To: <4E429003.50804@ali.org.ua>
References: <4E429003.50804@ali.org.ua>
Message-ID: <1312986090.10936.0.camel@asyakin-desktop>

??? ?????? exists, ? ???????????? ?????, ??? ???? ?? ????? ??? ?
????????? ????????????: exists may also be called on array elements, but
its behavior is much less obvious and is strongly tied to the use of
delete on arrays. Be aware that calling exists on array values is
deprecated and likely to be removed in a future version of Perl.

? ??., 10/08/2011 ? 17:04 +0300, Oleg Alistratov ?????:
> ??????,
> 
> ?, ???????, ???????, ??? @_ ?????? ?????? ??????????,
> ?? ? ?? ?????? ??????, ?? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ?????.
> 
> ??? ???: http://ideone.com/0BeFd
> ??? ?? ? ????????? ??????????.
> 
> exists ??? ???????? @_ ?? ???????????? ?????????, ???? @_
> ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ??????, ? ?? ?????????????????? ??????????.
> 
> ?????????????? ? ?????? 8, 10, 12.
> 
> ?????? ???????? ? ???????????? ?? ?????, ?????????? ????????? ?????,
> ?? ???? ?? ??? ? ????? ????????? ?? ??????? ?? ??? ????? ?????????.
> ??? ?????, ??? ???????? ? ???? ??? ?? ?????? "?? ?????????? ??????
> ??? ?????????? ???????? ? ???? ??? ?????????? ???????? ???? ? ???????????
> ??????? ??????? ?? ????????? LRU" :) ??????????????, ??????? ???? ???????
> ? ???????.
> 
> ??????, ???????, ??????, ???? ??? ??. ? ??? ?? ????.
> 
> 
> --
> ???? ??????????

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From d3fin3 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 07:11:24 2011
From: d3fin3 at gmail.com (und3f)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:11:24 +0300
Subject: exists =?UTF-8?B?0LIgQF8=?=
In-Reply-To: <4E429003.50804@ali.org.ua>
References: <4E429003.50804@ali.org.ua>
Message-ID: <4E42918C.2090202@gmail.com>

??????? ?? perldoc -f exists

               exists may also be called on array elements, but its behavior
               is much less obvious, and is strongly tied to the use of
               "delete" on arrays.  *Be aware* that calling exists on array
               values is deprecated and likely to be removed in a future
               version of Perl.

????? ???????? ?? ?????????????? ???????? `defined $_[$i]' ?? ???? ????? ??? ???????? ????????????? ????????.
??? ??????? ????? ??????? ??? ???????? ? ??? ???? ??????????????? ? ???????? ???? ?? ?????, ??????? ????????? ??????? ????????? ????? ????? ?????????? ????????? ? ???????.

On 10.08.2011 17:04, Oleg Alistratov <ali at ali.org.ua> wrote:
> ??????,
>
> ?, ???????, ???????, ??? @_ ?????? ?????? ??????????,
> ?? ? ?? ?????? ??????, ?? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ?????.
>
> ??? ???: http://ideone.com/0BeFd
> ??? ?? ? ????????? ??????????.
>
> exists ??? ???????? @_ ?? ???????????? ?????????, ???? @_
> ?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ??????, ? ?? ?????????????????? ??????????.
>
> ?????????????? ? ?????? 8, 10, 12.
>
> ?????? ???????? ? ???????????? ?? ?????, ?????????? ????????? ?????,
> ?? ???? ?? ??? ? ????? ????????? ?? ??????? ?? ??? ????? ?????????.
> ??? ?????, ??? ???????? ? ???? ??? ?? ?????? "?? ?????????? ??????
> ??? ?????????? ???????? ? ???? ??? ?????????? ???????? ???? ? ???????????
> ??????? ??????? ?? ????????? LRU" :) ??????????????, ??????? ???? ???????
> ? ???????.
>
> ??????, ???????, ??????, ???? ??? ??. ? ??? ?? ????.
>
>
> --
> ???? ??????????
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From ali at ali.org.ua  Wed Aug 10 07:04:51 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:04:51 +0300
Subject: [Moscow.pm] =?utf-8?b?ZXhpc3RzINCyIEBf?=
Message-ID: <4E429003.50804@ali.org.ua>


??????,

?, ???????, ???????, ??? @_ ?????? ?????? ??????????,
?? ? ?? ?????? ??????, ?? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ?????.

??? ???: http://ideone.com/0BeFd
??? ?? ? ????????? ??????????.

exists ??? ???????? @_ ?? ???????????? ?????????, ???? @_
?????????? ?? ?? ??????? ??????, ? ?? ?????????????????? ??????????.

?????????????? ? ?????? 8, 10, 12.

?????? ???????? ? ???????????? ?? ?????, ?????????? ????????? ?????,
?? ???? ?? ??? ? ????? ????????? ?? ??????? ?? ??? ????? ?????????.
??? ?????, ??? ???????? ? ???? ??? ?? ?????? "?? ?????????? ??????
??? ?????????? ???????? ? ???? ??? ?????????? ???????? ???? ? ???????????
??????? ??????? ?? ????????? LRU" :) ??????????????, ??????? ???? ???????
? ???????.

??????, ???????, ??????, ???? ??? ??. ? ??? ?? ????.


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From simne at yandex.ru  Sat Aug 13 08:36:47 2011
From: simne at yandex.ru (Serge)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:36:47 +0400
Subject: =?koi8-r?B?UmU6IPfT1NLF3sEgS2lldi5wbSAxMS8wOC8xMSAtIMnUz8fJ?=
In-Reply-To: <4E465368.8020107@gmail.com>
References: <4E465368.8020107@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <225051313249807@web117.yandex.ru>

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From ykorshak at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 04:39:12 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav Korshak)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:39:12 +0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?0JLRgdGC0YDQtdGH0LAgS2lldi5wbSAxMS8wOC8xMSAtINC40YI=?=
 =?UTF-8?B?0L7Qs9C4?=
In-Reply-To: <4E465368.8020107@gmail.com>
References: <4E465368.8020107@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E466260.3020708@gmail.com>


????? ??????? github-??????????? 
https://github.com/organizations/kiev-pm ??? ????? ????????.
???????, ? ????????? ??????? ??? ???????? ??????????? ? ????? 
???-??????????? ??? http://kiev.pm.org

P.S.: ???????? ??????? ? ?????????? ????????? - ?????? mail-??????

--
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From ykorshak at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 03:35:20 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav Korshak)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:35:20 +0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?0JLRgdGC0YDQtdGH0LAgS2lldi5wbSAxMS8wOC8xMSAtINC40YLQvtCz?=
 =?UTF-8?B?0Lg=?=
Message-ID: <4E465368.8020107@gmail.com>

???????!

? ?????????? ???? ???. ????????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ????????????, 
?????????? ??????? ???????, ??? Coffee Life ???? ????? ? ??????. ?? 
???????????? ????? ?????, ? ????? ????????????? ? ??????. ??????? 
?????????? ????? ?? ????????. ? ??????? ???????, ??? ?????????? ????? ? 
???????????? ? ????? ?? ????????? ????.
???? ? ?? ????????, ?? ??? ???? ????? ??????? ??????? ?? ??? ??????? 
Kiev.pm, ? ? ??????, ??? ?????????? ???????? ?????????? ? ????????? 
??????? ????? ?????? ?????.
?? ?????????!

??????? ????? ???????:

    * ?????????? ?? ?????? ???? ??????????? ?? ???? ?????? Kiev.pm ??
      ????????.
      ????????? ????????? ???? ??????? ?????? ???????? ??? ???????????,
      ???? ? ??????????? ??? ??? ???????, ?????? ??? ???  ???????, ? ???
      ????? ????? Kiev.pm. ???? ?????????? ???????????? ??? ????????
      ??????? ??? ??????????? ????????. ??????? ???????? ???? ??? ??
      ????????? ? ?????? - ??? ???????????? ?? ??? ??????? ?????????
      ?????????? ? ???? ? ? ????? ??? ????? ???????? ??? ???????.

    * ?? ??? ????????????? ??????.
      ??????????? ?? ??? ??? ??? ????? ???????? ?? ???????????? ?
      ????????, ?? ? ????????? ????? ?????????? ???? ????. ??
      ???????????? ??????????? ?????? ???? ????? ?????? ?, ? ?????, ???
      ???????? ???? ????????. ???? ????? ????????? ?????? ????? ????? ?
      ???????? ??????? ? ?????? ???????? (???, ? ??????? ?? ????!).

    * ???????? ?????? ? ???? ??????????
      ?? ??? ????????, ??? ???? Kiev.pm ????????????? ??????, ?,
      ?????????, ??? ??????????, ??? ???? ?????? - ????????? ??????????
      ? ????????? ?????. ?? ????? ????? ?????????????????? ?? ?????
      ?????? ????????. ? ??????? ???? ??????? ????????? ??????, ?.?. ???
      ??????? ? ???? ?? ?????????? ????????? (??????, ??? ?????????????
      ???????!).
      ??????? ???????? ?????? Kiev.pm, ????????????? ?? ???????,
      ???????? ? ???? ????? ???????:
      1. ???????? ??????? ????? Perl-?????????????? ??? ??????
      ??????????, ??? ? ????? Kiev.pm ? ??????? ????????????. ?
      ????????? ????????? ??????? ? ???????? ?????????? (????? ?????? ??
      ???, ? ??????) ??????? ???????? ? ??????? ???????????:
      http://bit.ly/k87gTW
      2. ???????? ????? Perl ??? ????? ???????????????? ? ??????????
      ????????? ???????????? Kiev.pm ? ????? ?????? ?? ??? ????????
      ??????? ?? ?????????????  Perl, ?? ???????? ????? ? ????????
      ?????????  ? ????????? ???? ??????????.

    * ???????? ???? ????????
      ????? ???? ????, ???????? ?? ????????? ??????, ??? ????? ?????????.
      ? ? ??? ??????/???? ??????? ?????, ?????????? ??? ?????????.
      ?????? ? ???????? ?? ?????????????? ? ?????????? ??? ????
      ????????????????: http://bit.ly/nnphGz(Google Docs)
      ???? ? ??? ???? ?????????????? ???? ??? ?????????? ? ???? -
      ?????????? ???, ??????????? ? ?????????, ?????? ? ??????????
      ??????????????.
      ???? ?? ?????? ??????? ??????? ? ?????????? ?????? ?? ??????? -
      ??? ?????.
      ?? ????, ??? ??? ??????/???????:
      ? ????????? ??? ???????? Kiev.pm. ?????????, ??????? ??????????
      ??????, ???? ???? ?? ??????????, ?? ? ??????? ??? ????. ??????????
      ???????? ??????????? ??????? ??? ????????, ????? ??? ????????? ?
      ???????????. ???????????? ?????????? ??????????????.
      ?????? ? Kiev.pm
      http://www.facebook.com/groups/200467680011987/?????????? ???
      ?????????, ?? ??????? ? ???? ???????????? ??? ? ??? ?????.
      ?????? ? linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2042895
      ??????????? ???????? ??? ???????? ???????? ??????? ???????????
      ??????? ???????????? (vti) - ObjectDB (
      http://github.com/vti/object-db2/commits/master/
      <https://docs.google.com/document/d/14PgGEC2zO2MwPgwzieL42629feEMGYXtSdgOr8BGuE0/%28https://github.com/vti/object-db2/commits/master/>).
      ??????????? ? ???? - ????????????? ??????????

    * ??????? ?????
      ??? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ? ???????? ??????????, ???? ?
      ???????? ?????? ?? ????? ????????????.
      ????, ????????????? ???????! ???????, ??? ???? ?? ???? ??? ??
      ??????? ???????????.


????? ?????????? ?? ?????? ????????, ?? ? ?????? ???????? ??? ?????.
???? ??? ??? ???????. ??????????? ?????.

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From ali at ali.org.ua  Sat Aug 27 06:18:20 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:18:20 +0300
Subject: Mojo XS Accessors
In-Reply-To: <4E58D1D6.8040306@gmail.com>
References: <4E466AEE.1060901@gmail.com> <4E478938.2060503@ali.org.ua> <4E58D1D6.8040306@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E58EE9C.5070309@ali.org.ua>




On 27.08.2011 14:15, Yaroslav Korshak wrote:

> ????????? ???? ? ?????? ?????? ??????????, Mojo::Base::XS ???? ?? CPAN,
> ????? ??????????????? ????? ???? ?????. ???? - ? ???????????
> https://github.com/yko/mojo-base-xs
>
> ??????? ?? ???????? ??? Mojolicious - ?????????? ?? 20% ?? ??????
> ??????? ????????????? ??????????. ? ???????? ????? ????? 5-10%, ??? ????
> ???????. ???????????? ????? ??? ????????? ? Mojolicious ("??????????"
> ?????????? ???????? Mojo::Base) ??? ? ??? ????.

?? ??? ?????? ?????. ??????? ???????? ?? ????.


-- 
???? ??????????



From ykorshak at gmail.com  Sat Aug 27 04:15:34 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav Korshak)
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 14:15:34 +0300
Subject: Mojo XS Accessors
In-Reply-To: <4E478938.2060503@ali.org.ua>
References: <4E466AEE.1060901@gmail.com> <4E478938.2060503@ali.org.ua>
Message-ID: <4E58D1D6.8040306@gmail.com>


????????? ???? ? ?????? ?????? ??????????, Mojo::Base::XS ???? ?? CPAN, 
????? ??????????????? ????? ???? ?????. ???? - ? ??????????? 
https://github.com/yko/mojo-base-xs

??????? ?? ???????? ??? Mojolicious - ?????????? ?? 20% ?? ?????? 
??????? ????????????? ??????????. ? ???????? ????? ????? 5-10%, ??? ???? 
???????. ???????????? ????? ??? ????????? ? Mojolicious ("??????????" 
?????????? ???????? Mojo::Base) ??? ? ??? ????.

???? ?? ???? ???????? ?? BlackPerl ?????? ???????????? Mojo::Base::XS 
??? ???????.
--
Regards
yko

On 08/14/2011 11:37 AM, Oleg Alistratov wrote:
>
> On 13.08.2011 15:15, Yaroslav Korshak wrote:
>> ???? ? ???, ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ???????:
>>
>> ? ??????? ??, ??? ? ???? ???? https://github.com/yko/mojo-base-xs
>> ??, ???, ??????? ????? ?????, ????????? ???????? ? threded perl
>> (????????????? ?? perl ??? thread ? multiplicity)
>>
>> ???? ??????????, ?? ?????? ?? ??????
> ???????, ???????. ??, ??? ????. ?????? threaded ? ???? ???????? ???????????.
>
>
> --
> ???? ??????????



From ykorshak at gmail.com  Wed Aug 17 00:33:33 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav Korshak)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:33:33 +0300
Subject: Mojo XS Accessors
In-Reply-To: <4E478938.2060503@ali.org.ua>
References: <4E466AEE.1060901@gmail.com> <4E478938.2060503@ali.org.ua>
Message-ID: <4E4B6ECD.7030400@cpan.org>


?????? ? ????? experimental ???? ??????? ?????????? ???? ????????? ? 
threaded, 5.10 ? ?????? ???????? Mojolicious.
???????? ??????????. ?? ? ??????????? - ??? ???????.
???? ???? ?????????.

??? DESTROY ???????? ??????? ???????: ???????????? ??????? ?????????? ? 
?????? G_EVAL, ????? ??? ????? ????????? reference to dead object ? ? 
DESTROY ??? ???????? :( ?? ??????? ???? ??? perl 5.10

???????? ????? ????????????? ??????. ???????? ??? ???????? ????????? 
???????? ?? ????????? ?? coderef. ?? ??? ????? ?????? ???????? ??????? 
??? pure perl. ????????? ?? ?????. ? ???? ??, ? ??????? ????????????, 
??????? ??????.

?????? ???????? ????????, ???????????? ? ?????? ??????????? ????? ?????, 
?????? ??? accessor body ????? ?? ??????????.

On 08/14/2011 11:37 AM, Oleg Alistratov wrote:
> ???????, ???????. ??, ??? ????. ?????? threaded ? ???? ???????? ???????????.
>
>
> --
> ???? ??????????



From ali at ali.org.ua  Sun Aug 14 01:37:12 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:37:12 +0300
Subject: Mojo XS Accessors
In-Reply-To: <4E466AEE.1060901@gmail.com>
References: <4E466AEE.1060901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E478938.2060503@ali.org.ua>




On 13.08.2011 15:15, Yaroslav Korshak wrote:
> ???? ? ???, ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ???????:
> 
> ? ??????? ??, ??? ? ???? ???? https://github.com/yko/mojo-base-xs
> ??, ???, ??????? ????? ?????, ????????? ???????? ? threded perl
> (????????????? ?? perl ??? thread ? multiplicity)
> 
> ???? ??????????, ?? ?????? ?? ??????

???????, ???????. ??, ??? ????. ?????? threaded ? ???? ???????? ???????????.


--
???? ??????????


From ykorshak at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 05:15:42 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav Korshak)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:15:42 +0300
Subject: Mojo XS Accessors
Message-ID: <4E466AEE.1060901@gmail.com>


???? ? ???, ??? ????????????? ?????? ? ???????:

? ??????? ??, ??? ? ???? ???? https://github.com/yko/mojo-base-xs
??, ???, ??????? ????? ?????, ????????? ???????? ? threded perl
(????????????? ?? perl ??? thread ? multiplicity)

???? ??????????, ?? ?????? ?? ??????

--
Regards
yko


From dshadowukraine at gmail.com  Thu Aug 25 07:10:32 2011
From: dshadowukraine at gmail.com (Konstantin Cherednichenko)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:10:32 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
In-Reply-To: <CAKckDDCL269w-59TiGf6gGSGBTrWj8AzEnensEUbb9OneF27rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKckDDAuDCwFW2x+1Wk+=0-KXf5-c6kWwHe_om0ncEZGcTY9BA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E5395A4.2040601@gmail.com>
	<CAMacAtJ6xHRuDjxjjOfYG_J7v9T64YSog86rTc8u3-4GKiw_+g@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E564443.9040606@gmail.com>
	<CAMmbzYpKUoLEh0g_xCPXxPgFsVduHsY9LhTAO4DPMvcN9zZsXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKckDDCL269w-59TiGf6gGSGBTrWj8AzEnensEUbb9OneF27rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMmbzYq__dOSdwO7vfemjJ2W0ZdxmABKXUPPK0KfCJ1=K9gTSQ@mail.gmail.com>

? ??? ?????! :-)

You install libwww-perl using the normal perl module distribution drill:

   perl Makefile.PL
   make
   make test
   make install


2011/8/25 Sergiy Borodych <sergiy.borodych at gmail.com>

> ????? ????? ?????
>
> http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/GAAS/libwww-perl-6.02/Makefile.PL
>
> ??? ?
>
> ?????? ???? ??????? -w ?
>
> 2011/8/25 Konstantin Cherednichenko <dshadowukraine at gmail.com>:
> > ?????. ?? FreeBSD ? Mac OS X ????? ???????? ?? ?????. ? ?????? ????
> ??????
> > ?????
> >
> > 2011/8/25 Sergiy Borodych <sergiy.borodych at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> ???? ??????? ?? ??????!
> >>
> >> ?? ??? ?????? ? ?????
> >>
> >> #!perl
> >>
> >> ? ??? ? ?????? ???????? ? ????????????? ?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 08/23/2011 03:43 PM, Denis Zhdanov wrote:
> >> > ?????? ????!
> >> > ????????? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)#Portability
> >> > ??????? ??? ???????? ??????????? ? OpenServer 5.0.6 ? Unicos 9.0.2 ?
> >> > ??????? ????  /bin/env ?? ??? /usr/bin/env - ?? ?? ????? ??? ??? ??
> >> > ????? ????? ???????????? ????. ??? ????? ????????? ??? ????? ????
> >> > ???????? ? ????????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? - ? ?????? ?? ??????
> >> > ???????? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????? #/usr/bin/env perl -d ??????.
> >> > ?? ? ??? ????? env - security issue, ? ??? ?????? ??? ??????? ????
> >> > ????? ????????? ??????? ? PATH ??? ?????? perl ? ??? ?????????? ??????
> >> > ?????????? perl ($PATH ??? ? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?? ?????????
> >> > ???????? ?????????? ??????????).
> >> >
> >> > 23 ??????? 2011 ?. 14:57 ???????????? Yaroslav Korshak
> >> > <ykorshak at gmail.com> ???????:
> >> >> Hello bor
> >> >>
> >> >> perlbrew ????????? ??????? ????????? ?????? perl ? ?????????????
> ?????
> >> >> ????.
> >> >> ?? ???? ? ???? ???? ??????????? ??????? ? ?????????? #!/usr/bin/perl
> ??
> >> >> ???
> >> >> ????????? ??????? ? ????????.
> >> >> ?? ??? ????? ??????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ?
> >> >> Module::Starter,
> >> >> ?????? ??? ?????, ??? ???? ???? ? ????? ?????????:
> >> >> cpanm ????????? ??? ?????????? ? perl-5.14.1, ? module-starter
> >> >> (????????????? ? ??? ?? perl-5.14.1) ??????????? ????? perl-5.10.1
> >> >> ??????????, ???? ??? ?????, ? ?????? ????????? ?????????, ????? ??
> ????
> >> >> /usr/bin/env ? ????? ???????? ????? ?? ????? ??????????.
> >> >> ???? ???? ?? ????.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> yko
> >> >>
> >> >> On 08/23/2011 02:39 PM, Sergiy Borodych wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hello mongers,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????
> >> >>> #!/usr/bin/env perl
> >> >>> ??????
> >> >>> #!/usr/bin/perl
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ????? ?? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????????:
> >> >>> ? ? ??? ??? ??????? ?
> >> >>> ????? ????? ? ????? ????????? ?
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Konstantin Cherednichenko
> > KC439-RIPE, KC96-UANIC
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sergiy Borodych
> http://bor.org.ua
>



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From: sergiy.borodych at gmail.com (Sergiy Borodych)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:05:58 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
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????? ????? ?????

http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/GAAS/libwww-perl-6.02/Makefile.PL

??? ?

?????? ???? ??????? -w ?

2011/8/25 Konstantin Cherednichenko <dshadowukraine at gmail.com>:
> ?????. ?? FreeBSD ? Mac OS X ????? ???????? ?? ?????. ? ?????? ???? ??????
> ?????
>
> 2011/8/25 Sergiy Borodych <sergiy.borodych at gmail.com>
>>
>> ???? ??????? ?? ??????!
>>
>> ?? ??? ?????? ? ?????
>>
>> #!perl
>>
>> ? ??? ? ?????? ???????? ? ????????????? ?
>>
>>
>> On 08/23/2011 03:43 PM, Denis Zhdanov wrote:
>> > ?????? ????!
>> > ????????? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)#Portability
>> > ??????? ??? ???????? ??????????? ? OpenServer 5.0.6 ? Unicos 9.0.2 ?
>> > ??????? ???? ?/bin/env ?? ??? /usr/bin/env - ?? ?? ????? ??? ??? ??
>> > ????? ????? ???????????? ????. ??? ????? ????????? ??? ????? ????
>> > ???????? ? ????????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? - ? ?????? ?? ??????
>> > ???????? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????? #/usr/bin/env perl -d ??????.
>> > ?? ? ??? ????? env - security issue, ? ??? ?????? ??? ??????? ????
>> > ????? ????????? ??????? ? PATH ??? ?????? perl ? ??? ?????????? ??????
>> > ?????????? perl ($PATH ??? ? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?? ?????????
>> > ???????? ?????????? ??????????).
>> >
>> > 23 ??????? 2011 ?. 14:57 ???????????? Yaroslav Korshak
>> > <ykorshak at gmail.com> ???????:
>> >> Hello bor
>> >>
>> >> perlbrew ????????? ??????? ????????? ?????? perl ? ????????????? ?????
>> >> ????.
>> >> ?? ???? ? ???? ???? ??????????? ??????? ? ?????????? #!/usr/bin/perl ??
>> >> ???
>> >> ????????? ??????? ? ????????.
>> >> ?? ??? ????? ??????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ?
>> >> Module::Starter,
>> >> ?????? ??? ?????, ??? ???? ???? ? ????? ?????????:
>> >> cpanm ????????? ??? ?????????? ? perl-5.14.1, ? module-starter
>> >> (????????????? ? ??? ?? perl-5.14.1) ??????????? ????? perl-5.10.1
>> >> ??????????, ???? ??? ?????, ? ?????? ????????? ?????????, ????? ?? ????
>> >> /usr/bin/env ? ????? ???????? ????? ?? ????? ??????????.
>> >> ???? ???? ?? ????.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards
>> >> yko
>> >>
>> >> On 08/23/2011 02:39 PM, Sergiy Borodych wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello mongers,
>> >>>
>> >>> ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????
>> >>> #!/usr/bin/env perl
>> >>> ??????
>> >>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>> >>>
>> >>> ????? ?? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????????:
>> >>> ? ? ??? ??? ??????? ?
>> >>> ????? ????? ? ????? ????????? ?
>> >>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Konstantin Cherednichenko
> KC439-RIPE, KC96-UANIC
>
>



-- 
Sergiy Borodych
http://bor.org.ua

From dshadowukraine at gmail.com  Thu Aug 25 06:22:38 2011
From: dshadowukraine at gmail.com (Konstantin Cherednichenko)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:22:38 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
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?????. ?? FreeBSD ? Mac OS X ????? ???????? ?? ?????. ? ?????? ???? ??????
?????

2011/8/25 Sergiy Borodych <sergiy.borodych at gmail.com>

> ???? ??????? ?? ??????!
>
> ?? ??? ?????? ? ?????
>
> #!perl
>
> ? ??? ? ?????? ???????? ? ????????????? ?
>
>
> On 08/23/2011 03:43 PM, Denis Zhdanov wrote:
> > ?????? ????!
> > ????????? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)#Portability
> > ??????? ??? ???????? ??????????? ? OpenServer 5.0.6 ? Unicos 9.0.2 ?
> > ??????? ????  /bin/env ?? ??? /usr/bin/env - ?? ?? ????? ??? ??? ??
> > ????? ????? ???????????? ????. ??? ????? ????????? ??? ????? ????
> > ???????? ? ????????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? - ? ?????? ?? ??????
> > ???????? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????? #/usr/bin/env perl -d ??????.
> > ?? ? ??? ????? env - security issue, ? ??? ?????? ??? ??????? ????
> > ????? ????????? ??????? ? PATH ??? ?????? perl ? ??? ?????????? ??????
> > ?????????? perl ($PATH ??? ? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?? ?????????
> > ???????? ?????????? ??????????).
> >
> > 23 ??????? 2011 ?. 14:57 ???????????? Yaroslav Korshak
> > <ykorshak at gmail.com> ???????:
> >> Hello bor
> >>
> >> perlbrew ????????? ??????? ????????? ?????? perl ? ????????????? ?????
> ????.
> >> ?? ???? ? ???? ???? ??????????? ??????? ? ?????????? #!/usr/bin/perl ??
> ???
> >> ????????? ??????? ? ????????.
> >> ?? ??? ????? ??????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ? Module::Starter,
> >> ?????? ??? ?????, ??? ???? ???? ? ????? ?????????:
> >> cpanm ????????? ??? ?????????? ? perl-5.14.1, ? module-starter
> >> (????????????? ? ??? ?? perl-5.14.1) ??????????? ????? perl-5.10.1
> >> ??????????, ???? ??? ?????, ? ?????? ????????? ?????????, ????? ?? ????
> >> /usr/bin/env ? ????? ???????? ????? ?? ????? ??????????.
> >> ???? ???? ?? ????.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >> yko
> >>
> >> On 08/23/2011 02:39 PM, Sergiy Borodych wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello mongers,
> >>>
> >>> ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????
> >>> #!/usr/bin/env perl
> >>> ??????
> >>> #!/usr/bin/perl
> >>>
> >>> ????? ?? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????????:
> >>> ? ? ??? ??? ??????? ?
> >>> ????? ????? ? ????? ????????? ?
> >>
>
>


-- 
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From: sergiy.borodych at gmail.com (Sergiy Borodych)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:46:59 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
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???? ??????? ?? ??????!

?? ??? ?????? ? ?????

#!perl

? ??? ? ?????? ???????? ? ????????????? ?


On 08/23/2011 03:43 PM, Denis Zhdanov wrote:
> ?????? ????!
> ????????? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)#Portability
> ??????? ??? ???????? ??????????? ? OpenServer 5.0.6 ? Unicos 9.0.2 ?
> ??????? ????  /bin/env ?? ??? /usr/bin/env - ?? ?? ????? ??? ??? ??
> ????? ????? ???????????? ????. ??? ????? ????????? ??? ????? ????
> ???????? ? ????????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? - ? ?????? ?? ??????
> ???????? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????? #/usr/bin/env perl -d ??????.
> ?? ? ??? ????? env - security issue, ? ??? ?????? ??? ??????? ????
> ????? ????????? ??????? ? PATH ??? ?????? perl ? ??? ?????????? ??????
> ?????????? perl ($PATH ??? ? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?? ?????????
> ???????? ?????????? ??????????).
> 
> 23 ??????? 2011 ?. 14:57 ???????????? Yaroslav Korshak
> <ykorshak at gmail.com> ???????:
>> Hello bor
>>
>> perlbrew ????????? ??????? ????????? ?????? perl ? ????????????? ????? ????.
>> ?? ???? ? ???? ???? ??????????? ??????? ? ?????????? #!/usr/bin/perl ?? ???
>> ????????? ??????? ? ????????.
>> ?? ??? ????? ??????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ? Module::Starter,
>> ?????? ??? ?????, ??? ???? ???? ? ????? ?????????:
>> cpanm ????????? ??? ?????????? ? perl-5.14.1, ? module-starter
>> (????????????? ? ??? ?? perl-5.14.1) ??????????? ????? perl-5.10.1
>> ??????????, ???? ??? ?????, ? ?????? ????????? ?????????, ????? ?? ????
>> /usr/bin/env ? ????? ???????? ????? ?? ????? ??????????.
>> ???? ???? ?? ????.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>> yko
>>
>> On 08/23/2011 02:39 PM, Sergiy Borodych wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello mongers,
>>>
>>> ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????
>>> #!/usr/bin/env perl
>>> ??????
>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>>
>>> ????? ?? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????????:
>>> ? ? ??? ??? ??????? ?
>>> ????? ????? ? ????? ????????? ?
>>



From dshadowukraine at gmail.com  Wed Aug 24 23:17:35 2011
From: dshadowukraine at gmail.com (Konstantin Cherednichenko)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:17:35 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
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? ????? ?????? ????? ????????? ???? ?????? ?????? ? ??????? sed... :-)

2011/8/23 Denis Zhdanov <denis.zhdanov at gmail.com>

> ?? ??? ??????? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?????????, ???? ????? ??????? ????????.
> ???????? ??? ??? ???????? ???????????? ??? ?? ?????, ?? ?????????
> ???????? - ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? ??????? ??????????.
>
> 23 ??????? 2011 ?. 16:36 ???????????? Konstantin Cherednichenko
> > ??? ?? ????????. "??????? ????" ????? ???????? ????????? PATH ?????? ?
> > ?????? ????.
>



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From: denis.zhdanov at gmail.com (Denis Zhdanov)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:54:24 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
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?? ??? ??????? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?????????, ???? ????? ??????? ????????.
???????? ??? ??? ???????? ???????????? ??? ?? ?????, ?? ?????????
???????? - ?????? ???????? ??? ???????? ??????? ??????????.

23 ??????? 2011??. 16:36 ???????????? Konstantin Cherednichenko
> ??? ?? ????????. "??????? ????" ????? ???????? ????????? PATH ?????? ?
> ?????? ????.

From dshadowukraine at gmail.com  Tue Aug 23 06:36:17 2011
From: dshadowukraine at gmail.com (Konstantin Cherednichenko)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:36:17 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
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2011/8/23 Denis Zhdanov <denis.zhdanov at gmail.com>

> ?? ? ??? ????? env - security issue, ? ??? ?????? ??? ??????? ????
> ????? ????????? ??????? ? PATH ??? ?????? perl ? ??? ?????????? ??????
> ?????????? perl ($PATH ??? ? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?? ?????????
> ???????? ?????????? ??????????).
>

??? ?? ????????. "??????? ????" ????? ???????? ????????? PATH ?????? ?
?????? ????.

-- 
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From ali at ali.org.ua  Tue Aug 23 05:59:05 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:59:05 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
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On 23.08.2011 15:43, Denis Zhdanov wrote:

> ??? ????? ????????? ??? ????? ????
> ???????? ? ????????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? - ? ?????? ?? ??????
> ???????? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????? #/usr/bin/env perl -d ??????.

???, ???? ????? ????. ???????? ? ????????? ??????? ???????? ? ???????
? ????????.

?? ???? ?????? ???????, ?? ????? ??? ???? ????????

  perl -w

??

  use warnings;

??? ??? ????? ??

  use common::sense;




--
???? ??????????


From denis.zhdanov at gmail.com  Tue Aug 23 05:43:39 2011
From: denis.zhdanov at gmail.com (Denis Zhdanov)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:43:39 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
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?????? ????!
????????? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)#Portability
??????? ??? ???????? ??????????? ? OpenServer 5.0.6 ? Unicos 9.0.2 ?
??????? ????  /bin/env ?? ??? /usr/bin/env - ?? ?? ????? ??? ??? ??
????? ????? ???????????? ????. ??? ????? ????????? ??? ????? ????
???????? ? ????????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? - ? ?????? ?? ??????
???????? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????? #/usr/bin/env perl -d ??????.
?? ? ??? ????? env - security issue, ? ??? ?????? ??? ??????? ????
????? ????????? ??????? ? PATH ??? ?????? perl ? ??? ?????????? ??????
?????????? perl ($PATH ??? ? ????? ?????????? ????????? ?? ?????????
???????? ?????????? ??????????).

23 ??????? 2011??. 14:57 ???????????? Yaroslav Korshak
<ykorshak at gmail.com> ???????:
> Hello bor
>
> perlbrew ????????? ??????? ????????? ?????? perl ? ????????????? ????? ????.
> ?? ???? ? ???? ???? ??????????? ??????? ? ?????????? #!/usr/bin/perl ?? ???
> ????????? ??????? ? ????????.
> ?? ??? ????? ??????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ? Module::Starter,
> ?????? ??? ?????, ??? ???? ???? ? ????? ?????????:
> cpanm ????????? ??? ?????????? ? perl-5.14.1, ? module-starter
> (????????????? ? ??? ?? perl-5.14.1) ??????????? ????? perl-5.10.1
> ??????????, ???? ??? ?????, ? ?????? ????????? ?????????, ????? ?? ????
> /usr/bin/env ? ????? ???????? ????? ?? ????? ??????????.
> ???? ???? ?? ????.
>
> --
> Regards
> yko
>
> On 08/23/2011 02:39 PM, Sergiy Borodych wrote:
>>
>> Hello mongers,
>>
>> ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????
>> #!/usr/bin/env perl
>> ??????
>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>
>> ????? ?? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????????:
>> ? ? ??? ??? ??????? ?
>> ????? ????? ? ????? ????????? ?
>

From ali at ali.org.ua  Tue Aug 23 05:14:20 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:14:20 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
In-Reply-To: <4E5395A4.2040601@gmail.com>
References: <CAKckDDAuDCwFW2x+1Wk+=0-KXf5-c6kWwHe_om0ncEZGcTY9BA@mail.gmail.com> <4E5395A4.2040601@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E53999C.3050702@ali.org.ua>




On 23.08.2011 14:57, Yaroslav Korshak wrote:

> ? ?????? ????????? ?????????, ????? ?? ???? /usr/bin/env 

coreutils

--
???? ??????????


From ykorshak at gmail.com  Tue Aug 23 04:57:24 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav Korshak)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:57:24 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
In-Reply-To: <CAKckDDAuDCwFW2x+1Wk+=0-KXf5-c6kWwHe_om0ncEZGcTY9BA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKckDDAuDCwFW2x+1Wk+=0-KXf5-c6kWwHe_om0ncEZGcTY9BA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E5395A4.2040601@gmail.com>


Hello bor

perlbrew ????????? ??????? ????????? ?????? perl ? ????????????? ????? 
????.
?? ???? ? ???? ???? ??????????? ??????? ? ?????????? #!/usr/bin/perl ?? 
??? ????????? ??????? ? ????????.
?? ??? ????? ??????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ? Module::Starter, 
?????? ??? ?????, ??? ???? ???? ? ????? ?????????:
cpanm ????????? ??? ?????????? ? perl-5.14.1, ? module-starter 
(????????????? ? ??? ?? perl-5.14.1) ??????????? ????? perl-5.10.1
??????????, ???? ??? ?????, ? ?????? ????????? ?????????, ????? ?? ???? 
/usr/bin/env ? ????? ???????? ????? ?? ????? ??????????.
???? ???? ?? ????.

-- 
Regards
yko

On 08/23/2011 02:39 PM, Sergiy Borodych wrote:
> Hello mongers,
>
> ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????
> #!/usr/bin/env perl
> ??????
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> ????? ?? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????????:
> ? ? ??? ??? ??????? ?
> ????? ????? ? ????? ????????? ?


From maxim.vuets at gmail.com  Tue Aug 23 04:51:17 2011
From: maxim.vuets at gmail.com (Maxim Vuets)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:51:17 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
In-Reply-To: <CAKckDDAuDCwFW2x+1Wk+=0-KXf5-c6kWwHe_om0ncEZGcTY9BA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKckDDAuDCwFW2x+1Wk+=0-KXf5-c6kWwHe_om0ncEZGcTY9BA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG6Dboi7wUNaK7Zg8BpzCUX9zAk1=-489J7FGm8=dPDeDcWk-Q@mail.gmail.com>

2011/8/23 Sergiy Borodych <sergiy.borodych at gmail.com>:

> ????? ?? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????????:
> ? ? ??? ??? ??????? ?
> ????? ????? ? ????? ????????? ?

perl, ??????, ????? ? /usr/local/bin/perl ??? ? /opt ???-??.
????????????? ????? ????????????? shebang ? ?????? ???????.
? env (???? ?? ????) (: ??????? $PATH ?? ??????? perl ? ????????? ???.
???? ?????????? ?????????????.
(???? ???? ???????? ??? ????? ????????.)


-- 
maxim.vuets.name

From sergiy.borodych at gmail.com  Tue Aug 23 04:39:35 2011
From: sergiy.borodych at gmail.com (Sergiy Borodych)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:39:35 +0300
Subject: bin/env perl vs bin/perl
Message-ID: <CAKckDDAuDCwFW2x+1Wk+=0-KXf5-c6kWwHe_om0ncEZGcTY9BA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello mongers,

????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ? ?????? ???????
#!/usr/bin/env perl
??????
#!/usr/bin/perl

????? ?? ???????? ? ?????????? ??????????:
? ? ??? ??? ??????? ?
????? ????? ? ????? ????????? ?

-- 
Sergiy Borodych
http://bor.org.ua

From elena.svisyuk at gmail.com  Tue Aug 23 07:59:34 2011
From: elena.svisyuk at gmail.com (Elena.S)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:59:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: GlobalLogic Ukraine is opening a position of Lead Product Developer
 to work on a full-time basis in Kyiv office.
Message-ID: <949f07b8-4e70-4275-ae0e-6cc1c0ae2593@t29g2000vby.googlegroups.com>


Business thrives when IT runs smarter, faster and stronger. That?s why
the most demanding IT organizations in the world rely on BMC Software
across distributed, mainframe, virtual and cloud environments.
Recognized as the leader in Business Service Management, BMC offers a
comprehensive approach and unified platform that helps IT
organizations cut cost, reduce risk and drive business profit.
BMC has partnered with GlobalLogic to set up a Product Engineering Lab
in Ukraine. We are looking for innovative people who share a passion
for developing enterprise-level solutions to join our team in Kiev.
Our Kiev facility is not your typical office, and GlobalLogic is not
your typical employer. We offer a fun, fast-paced, collaborative
environment that encourages creative thinking and continuous learning.
Check out a virtual 3D tour of our Kiev office here: http://bit.ly/jjwBHw
If you are committed to the highest standards of excellence and want
to learn from some of the most respected and recognized experts in the
industry, there may be a position for you at GlobalLogic!

About GlobalLogic
GlobalLogic is now home to more than 5,500 employees, delivering
innovation to leading technology organizations around the globe.
Fortune 100 technology leaders as well as cutting-edge emerging
companies rely on GlobalLogic to build innovative software that
provides a competitive edge in the global economy. With global
innovation hubs on three continents, GlobalLogic allows clients to tap
a highly skilled talent pool located in state-of-the-art labs that
deliver leading-edge cloud, mobile, SaaS, and social applications. The
company is connected globally by its award-winning ?Velocity?
innovation platform, and its teams thrive on Agile collaboration.
Backed by tier-one investors Goldman Sachs, NEA, and Sequoia Capital,
GlobalLogic is headquartered in the US and has offices in Argentina,
Germany, India, Israel, Ukraine, and the United Kingdom. For more
information, visit: www.globallogic.com.

Positions:
Lead Product Developer (Perl)

Position Description

Primary responsibilities for role:
- Develops and tests product code according to BMC quality standards.
- Maintains knowledge of product environments and applicable software
technologies.
- Provides complete documentation in the form of commented code,
problem status information, and design documents.
- Performs thorough problem analysis that results in resolution of
product-related problems according to BMC support standards.
- Completes code and other deliverables on schedule.
- Performs thorough unit testing; supports systems and integration
testing as required to provide a quality product.
- Assists in marketing of BMC products as required by PM&D management.
- Provides input to the Technical Writers for all product
documentation.
- Defines the functional specification of program modules ensuring
functionality, quality and ease of maintainability.
- Accurately estimates the size and scope of the development effort as
measured by the product delivery schedule

Position Requirements

- Experience in architecting complex framework and platform solutions
using web technologies.
- Experience in application development platform for building
enterprise application and business critical business processes that
involves workflow automation and process orchestration.
- Strong ability to architect, design and develop Object Oriented and
Service Oriented software with practical use of design patterns.
- Experience with writing business logic for applications using Object
Oriented Perl. Experience with C++ is a plus.
- Experience with distributed systems or a large enterprise background
is a plus
- Must have strong decision-making skills; take-charge personality,
and the ability to drive a plan to completion combined with good
written and oral communication.
- Good understanding of high-availability and scalable platform
architecture.
- Good understanding of troubleshooting and performance tuning of
multi-layered application.

We offer:
?	Opportunity to build Dream IT Company with us
?	Exciting projects involving newest technologies
?	Excellent 'white' compensation package, performance bonus program
?	Work alongside talented and creative people
?	Modern and comfortable office facilities
?	Attractive benefits package

To apply, please, send your resume in English at
olena.svysiuk at globallogic.com
Skype: lucky.ln
ICQ:  254 731 287



From mortiy at gmail.com  Tue Aug 23 08:06:19 2011
From: mortiy at gmail.com (=?KOI8-R?B?4czFy9PBzsTSIPPJxNjLzw==?=)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:06:19 +0300
Subject: Fwd: GlobalLogic Ukraine is opening a position of Lead Product
 Developer (Perl) to work on a full-time basis in Kyiv office.
Message-ID: <CAH=w+Hh52JMN04PCHvVu=urMAaPMpjwE1zVU_AoXt=p0OhMskQ@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Elena.S <elena.svisyuk at gmail.com>
Date: 2011/8/23
Subject: GlobalLogic Ukraine is opening a position of Lead Product Developer
to work on a full-time basis in Kyiv office.
To: Kiev Perl Users Group <kiev-perl-users-group at googlegroups.com>


Business thrives when IT runs smarter, faster and stronger. That?s why
the most demanding IT organizations in the world rely on BMC Software
across distributed, mainframe, virtual and cloud environments.
Recognized as the leader in Business Service Management, BMC offers a
comprehensive approach and unified platform that helps IT
organizations cut cost, reduce risk and drive business profit.
BMC has partnered with GlobalLogic to set up a Product Engineering Lab
in Ukraine. We are looking for innovative people who share a passion
for developing enterprise-level solutions to join our team in Kiev.
Our Kiev facility is not your typical office, and GlobalLogic is not
your typical employer. We offer a fun, fast-paced, collaborative
environment that encourages creative thinking and continuous learning.
Check out a virtual 3D tour of our Kiev office here: http://bit.ly/jjwBHw
If you are committed to the highest standards of excellence and want
to learn from some of the most respected and recognized experts in the
industry, there may be a position for you at GlobalLogic!

About GlobalLogic
GlobalLogic is now home to more than 5,500 employees, delivering
innovation to leading technology organizations around the globe.
Fortune 100 technology leaders as well as cutting-edge emerging
companies rely on GlobalLogic to build innovative software that
provides a competitive edge in the global economy. With global
innovation hubs on three continents, GlobalLogic allows clients to tap
a highly skilled talent pool located in state-of-the-art labs that
deliver leading-edge cloud, mobile, SaaS, and social applications. The
company is connected globally by its award-winning ?Velocity?
innovation platform, and its teams thrive on Agile collaboration.
Backed by tier-one investors Goldman Sachs, NEA, and Sequoia Capital,
GlobalLogic is headquartered in the US and has offices in Argentina,
Germany, India, Israel, Ukraine, and the United Kingdom. For more
information, visit: www.globallogic.com.

Positions:
Lead Product Developer (Perl)

Position Description

Primary responsibilities for role:
- Develops and tests product code according to BMC quality standards.
- Maintains knowledge of product environments and applicable software
technologies.
- Provides complete documentation in the form of commented code,
problem status information, and design documents.
- Performs thorough problem analysis that results in resolution of
product-related problems according to BMC support standards.
- Completes code and other deliverables on schedule.
- Performs thorough unit testing; supports systems and integration
testing as required to provide a quality product.
- Assists in marketing of BMC products as required by PM&D management.
- Provides input to the Technical Writers for all product
documentation.
- Defines the functional specification of program modules ensuring
functionality, quality and ease of maintainability.
- Accurately estimates the size and scope of the development effort as
measured by the product delivery schedule

Position Requirements

- Experience in architecting complex framework and platform solutions
using web technologies.
- Experience in application development platform for building
enterprise application and business critical business processes that
involves workflow automation and process orchestration.
- Strong ability to architect, design and develop Object Oriented and
Service Oriented software with practical use of design patterns.
- Experience with writing business logic for applications using Object
Oriented Perl. Experience with C++ is a plus.
- Experience with distributed systems or a large enterprise background
is a plus
- Must have strong decision-making skills; take-charge personality,
and the ability to drive a plan to completion combined with good
written and oral communication.
- Good understanding of high-availability and scalable platform
architecture.
- Good understanding of troubleshooting and performance tuning of
multi-layered application.

We offer:
?       Opportunity to build Dream IT Company with us
?       Exciting projects involving newest technologies
?       Excellent 'white' compensation package, performance bonus program
?       Work alongside talented and creative people
?       Modern and comfortable office facilities
?       Attractive benefits package

To apply, please, send your resume in English at
olena.svysiuk at globallogic.com
Skype: lucky.ln
ICQ:  254 731 287


-- 
????????? ??????
http://mortiy.net
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From ali at ali.org.ua  Tue Aug 23 10:56:10 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:56:10 +0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?0J/QvtC40YHQuiDQvdCwIG1ldGFjcGFu?=
In-Reply-To: <4E53E121.6050706@gmail.com>
References: <4E53D4F9.8030402@ali.org.ua> <4E53E121.6050706@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E53E9BA.9000608@ali.org.ua>




On 23.08.2011 20:19, Yaroslav Korshak wrote:

> ? ??? ? ??????? ??????? ???????, ??? ?????? ????? ?? issues ?? github
> (??? ??????????, ??? ? ??????????).
> ? ????? ????, ?? ?????? ?? ????? ? ????????????? Bloom::Filter
> http://metacpan.org/module/Bloom::Filter
> <https://metacpan.org/module/Bloom::Filter>
> 
> ?????? ?? #metacpan ??????? ????? ?????? issue.

?? ?? ??? ??????! ? ?????? ??????? :) ? ??? ??? ?????.
?? ???? ???? ????? ?????????, ?????? ??????? ? ????? ????? ?????? ??.


--
???? ??????????


From ykorshak at gmail.com  Tue Aug 23 10:19:29 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav Korshak)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:19:29 +0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?0J/QvtC40YHQuiDQvdCwIG1ldGFjcGFu?=
In-Reply-To: <4E53D4F9.8030402@ali.org.ua>
References: <4E53D4F9.8030402@ali.org.ua>
Message-ID: <4E53E121.6050706@gmail.com>

? ??? ? ??????? ??????? ???????, ??? ?????? ????? ?? issues ?? github 
(??? ??????????, ??? ? ??????????).
? ????? ????, ?? ?????? ?? ????? ? ????????????? Bloom::Filter
http://metacpan.org/module/Bloom::Filter 
<https://metacpan.org/module/Bloom::Filter>

?????? ?? #metacpan ??????? ????? ?????? issue.

On 08/23/2011 07:27 PM, Oleg Alistratov wrote:
> ???-?? ??? ????????^w ????-????? ?? ????????... ? ?????? ?????.
>
> ??? ????????:
> https://metacpan.org/search?q=bloom+filter
> http://search.cpan.org/search?query=bloom+filter
>
> ?????? Bloom::Filter (????? ?? ????? ??????, ?? ????? ???????????
> ???????) ? ??????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ????-?????? ?? ??????
> ??????.
>
> ??????, ??? ? ?? ?????? ????????, ???? ?????? ? ?? ????? ?? ? ????
> ?????, ???-?? ??? ????-????? ?? ????? ????????, ?? ??? ??????
> ????? ????????????????, ??? ?????????? ??????????, ??? ??? ??? ?????
> ? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ?????
>
>
>
> --
> ???? ??????????
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From ali at ali.org.ua  Tue Aug 23 09:27:37 2011
From: ali at ali.org.ua (Oleg Alistratov)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:27:37 +0300
Subject: =?UTF-8?B?0J/QvtC40YHQuiDQvdCwIG1ldGFjcGFu?=
Message-ID: <4E53D4F9.8030402@ali.org.ua>



???-?? ??? ????????^w ????-????? ?? ????????... ? ?????? ?????.

??? ????????:
https://metacpan.org/search?q=bloom+filter
http://search.cpan.org/search?query=bloom+filter

?????? Bloom::Filter (????? ?? ????? ??????, ?? ????? ???????????
???????) ? ??????? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????, ? ????-?????? ?? ??????
??????.

??????, ??? ? ?? ?????? ????????, ???? ?????? ? ?? ????? ?? ? ????
?????, ???-?? ??? ????-????? ?? ????? ????????, ?? ??? ??????
????? ????????????????, ??? ?????????? ??????????, ??? ??? ??? ?????
? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ?????



--
???? ??????????


From ykorshak at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 08:09:00 2011
From: ykorshak at gmail.com (Yaroslav Korshak)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:09:00 +0300
Subject: Kiev.pm mailing list
Message-ID: <4E5E4E8C.8010209@gmail.com>


???????!

???? ???????? ( http://bit.ly/nnphGz ) ??????????, ?? ??????, ?? 
???????????. ? ??????? ?? ??????? ?????? ? ??????? ??? ??????????????? 
????????. ?????? ??? ???????????? ?? ?????? ? ?????? ???? ????????? 
?????? ??????????? ?????????.

??????????? ??????????? ? ????????????????? pm.org ????? ?????????:

1. ??????? ???????? ? ????? ?????? pm-???? 
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/ ??? ??????????? ?? ??????? 
?????????? (??, ??? ?????? ????????? ??????, ???-?? ????? ??? ?????? 
????? ???? ??? ? ??? ????? :)

2. ?????????????? ???????????? ?? ?????? ??????? ???????????? ???????? 
(Google Groups), ???? Kiev.pm ??????????? ?????????? ? ??????.

??? ?? ????? ???????? ?? ????????? ??????? ????????? ?? ????????? 
???????, ??? ??? ??????? Omaha.pm 
http://jays.net/wiki/Omaha_Perl_Mongers ? ????????? ??? ? ????? ?????. ? 
????? ??? ???? ?? ????? ?????.

?? ??? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ?????????????? ??? ????????? ?? Google 
Groups ? ????? ????? ?????? ????????????? ?? ? MailMan ( 
http://www.list.org/ ), ?????????, ?????????????? ? ?????? ??????? ???????.

? ?? ??????? ???? ???????? ? ????? ?????????. ???????? ?? ???????? 
?????????? ??????? ?????????

-- 
Regards
yko