From djgoku at gmail.com  Tue Sep  3 09:28:50 2013
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 11:28:50 -0500
Subject: [Kc] September 10, 2013 meeting
Message-ID: <EADD12B6-517C-4DC3-BF8A-A8BA5B8077A5@gmail.com>

I am good with meeting at javanaut. Anyone care to join? I'll bring my laptop and do some hacking. 

Jonathan Otsuka

From davidnicol at gmail.com  Wed Sep  4 00:43:02 2013
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 02:43:02 -0500
Subject: [Kc] September 10, 2013 meeting
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It's now MudPie; I'll go there again, sure.


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am good with meeting at javanaut. Anyone care to join? I'll bring my
> laptop and do some hacking.
>
> Jonathan Otsuka
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>



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From popefelix at gmail.com  Wed Sep  4 06:50:24 2013
From: popefelix at gmail.com (Kit Peters)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 08:50:24 -0500
Subject: [Kc] September 10, 2013 meeting
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What time?


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:43 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's now MudPie; I'll go there again, sure.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am good with meeting at javanaut. Anyone care to join? I'll bring my
>> laptop and do some hacking.
>>
>> Jonathan Otsuka
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>
>
>
>
> --
> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>



-- 
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46A7
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From djgoku at gmail.com  Wed Sep  4 08:54:27 2013
From: djgoku at gmail.com (djgoku at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 10:54:27 -0500
Subject: [Kc] September 10, 2013 meeting
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7pm

I'll bring a laptop. I have some testing/moo(se)/class design questions.

Jonathan Otsuka
On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Kit Peters <popefelix at gmail.com> wrote:

> What time?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:43 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's now MudPie; I'll go there again, sure.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am good with meeting at javanaut. Anyone care to join? I'll bring my laptop and do some hacking.
> 
> Jonathan Otsuka
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kit Peters, W0KEH
> GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292  14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7
> Hello to any and all NSA, DEA, or other government or non-government agents reading this email.  Tell me about your life; I'll tell you about mine.
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From djgoku at gmail.com  Mon Sep  9 13:44:09 2013
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:44:09 -0500
Subject: [Kc] September 10, 2013 meeting
In-Reply-To: <2A4B559F-BD79-440F-BC09-495F2CA857E7@gmail.com>
References: <EADD12B6-517C-4DC3-BF8A-A8BA5B8077A5@gmail.com>
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Just like a head count for tomorrow. Looks like they are only open until 8pm. 

Maybe we should find another location?

Here is the URL: http://www.mudpiebakery.com/

1615 W. 39th Street
Kansas City, MO. 64111
mudpiebakery at gmail.com
Tel: 816.931.4539?
 


Jonathan Otsuka

> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, djgoku at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 7pm
> 
> I'll bring a laptop. I have some testing/moo(se)/class design questions.
> 
> Jonathan Otsuka
>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Kit Peters <popefelix at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What time?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:43 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It's now MudPie; I'll go there again, sure.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I am good with meeting at javanaut. Anyone care to join? I'll bring my laptop and do some hacking.
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan Otsuka
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> kc mailing list
>>>> kc at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> kc mailing list
>>> kc at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kit Peters, W0KEH
>> GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292  14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7
>> Hello to any and all NSA, DEA, or other government or non-government agents reading this email.  Tell me about your life; I'll tell you about mine.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
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From popefelix at gmail.com  Mon Sep  9 14:01:28 2013
From: popefelix at gmail.com (Kit Peters)
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:01:28 -0500
Subject: [Kc] September 10, 2013 meeting
In-Reply-To: <EFF1D52C-8C2F-47D7-97DC-70DE1D3D6F18@gmail.com>
References: <EADD12B6-517C-4DC3-BF8A-A8BA5B8077A5@gmail.com>
	<CAFwScO_W5KuyhW8n=gfF-yWETH_cXjbKZhRx6GNh0McCiRF_1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACwjgXZ_K22VnxOuoxjoNjE-zkxHaXGVS=c280ftJq9rkQde+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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I plan to be there. I don't mind somewhere else, provided it's quiet.

Kit Peters,  W0KEH
Sent from my phone
On Sep 9, 2013 3:44 PM, "Jonathan Otsuka" <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just like a head count for tomorrow. Looks like they are only open until
> 8pm.
>
> Maybe we should find another location?
>
> Here is the URL: http://www.mudpiebakery.com/
>
> 1615 W. 39th Street
>
> Kansas City, MO. 64111
> mudpiebakery at gmail.com
>
> Tel: 816.931.4539?
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan Otsuka
>
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, djgoku at gmail.com wrote:
>
> 7pm
>
> I'll bring a laptop. I have some testing/moo(se)/class design questions.
>
> Jonathan Otsuka
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Kit Peters <popefelix at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What time?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:43 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's now MudPie; I'll go there again, sure.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I am good with meeting at javanaut. Anyone care to join? I'll bring my
>>> laptop and do some hacking.
>>>
>>> Jonathan Otsuka
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> kc mailing list
>>> kc at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kit Peters, W0KEH
> GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292  14FD 2C7A 1037 F666
> 46A7
> Hello to any and all NSA, DEA, or other government or non-government
> agents reading this email.  Tell me about your life; I'll tell you about
> mine.
>  _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>
>
>
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> kc at pm.org
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From jason+kcpm at jlrush.com  Tue Sep 10 08:12:50 2013
From: jason+kcpm at jlrush.com (Jason Rush)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:12:50 -0500
Subject: [Kc] September 10, 2013 meeting
In-Reply-To: <CACwjgXZsmDtrHxSz61B=3Y6LKse8EfUz7iPoj5a+mcKkLHuZ+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EADD12B6-517C-4DC3-BF8A-A8BA5B8077A5@gmail.com>
	<CAFwScO_W5KuyhW8n=gfF-yWETH_cXjbKZhRx6GNh0McCiRF_1w@mail.gmail.com>
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	<2A4B559F-BD79-440F-BC09-495F2CA857E7@gmail.com>
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I plan to make it this month as well.

I thought it would be nice to be on Google Fiber, but I would rather be
able to meet and talk longer in a decent place than worry about Google
Fiber.  Just my opinion.

Maybe we can stick to MudPie tonight and those of us who want can look
around for another venue?

Jason


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Kit Peters <popefelix at gmail.com> wrote:

> I plan to be there. I don't mind somewhere else, provided it's quiet.
>
> Kit Peters,  W0KEH
> Sent from my phone
> On Sep 9, 2013 3:44 PM, "Jonathan Otsuka" <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just like a head count for tomorrow. Looks like they are only open until
>> 8pm.
>>
>> Maybe we should find another location?
>>
>> Here is the URL: http://www.mudpiebakery.com/
>>
>> 1615 W. 39th Street
>>
>> Kansas City, MO. 64111
>> mudpiebakery at gmail.com
>>
>> Tel: 816.931.4539
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan Otsuka
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, djgoku at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> 7pm
>>
>> I'll bring a laptop. I have some testing/moo(se)/class design questions.
>>
>> Jonathan Otsuka
>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Kit Peters <popefelix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What time?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:43 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's now MudPie; I'll go there again, sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am good with meeting at javanaut. Anyone care to join? I'll bring my
>>>> laptop and do some hacking.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan Otsuka
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> kc mailing list
>>>> kc at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> kc mailing list
>>> kc at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kit Peters, W0KEH
>> GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292  14FD 2C7A 1037 F666
>> 46A7
>> Hello to any and all NSA, DEA, or other government or non-government
>> agents reading this email.  Tell me about your life; I'll tell you about
>> mine.
>>  _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>
>
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From djgoku at gmail.com  Tue Sep 10 10:35:18 2013
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:35:18 -0500
Subject: [Kc] September 10, 2013 meeting
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Awesome. That sounds fine with me. I'll probably try to come a little earlier maybe around 6:30.

Jonathan Otsuka

> On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Jason Rush <jason+kcpm at jlrush.com> wrote:
> 
> I plan to make it this month as well.
> 
> I thought it would be nice to be on Google Fiber, but I would rather be able to meet and talk longer in a decent place than worry about Google Fiber.  Just my opinion.
> 
> Maybe we can stick to MudPie tonight and those of us who want can look around for another venue?
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Kit Peters <popefelix at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I plan to be there. I don't mind somewhere else, provided it's quiet.
>> 
>> Kit Peters,  W0KEH
>> Sent from my phone
>> 
>>> On Sep 9, 2013 3:44 PM, "Jonathan Otsuka" <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Just like a head count for tomorrow. Looks like they are only open until 8pm. 
>>> 
>>> Maybe we should find another location?
>>> 
>>> Here is the URL: http://www.mudpiebakery.com/
>>> 
>>> 1615 W. 39th Street
>>> Kansas City, MO. 64111
>>> mudpiebakery at gmail.com
>>> Tel: 816.931.4539
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Otsuka
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, djgoku at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 7pm
>>>> 
>>>> I'll bring a laptop. I have some testing/moo(se)/class design questions.
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan Otsuka
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Kit Peters <popefelix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What time?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:43 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> It's now MudPie; I'll go there again, sure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I am good with meeting at javanaut. Anyone care to join? I'll bring my laptop and do some hacking.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jonathan Otsuka
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> kc mailing list
>>>>>>> kc at pm.org
>>>>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> kc mailing list
>>>>>> kc at pm.org
>>>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Kit Peters, W0KEH
>>>>> GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292  14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7
>>>>> Hello to any and all NSA, DEA, or other government or non-government agents reading this email.  Tell me about your life; I'll tell you about mine.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> kc mailing list
>>>>> kc at pm.org
>>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> kc mailing list
>>> kc at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> 
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From davidnicol at gmail.com  Wed Sep 11 19:56:34 2013
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:56:34 -0500
Subject: [Kc] mad idea
Message-ID: <CAFwScO95PZx4aDMz54o_h=gZprZYjXDW0bcKVSWan8AwybHiWg@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone for creating a fork of Perl that uses APR for platform abstraction
(instead of native Perl platform abstraction?)



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From ironicface at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 11 21:31:54 2013
From: ironicface at earthlink.net (Teal)
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:31:54 -0500
Subject: [Kc] mad idea
In-Reply-To: <CAFwScO95PZx4aDMz54o_h=gZprZYjXDW0bcKVSWan8AwybHiWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFwScO95PZx4aDMz54o_h=gZprZYjXDW0bcKVSWan8AwybHiWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <523143BA.90808@earthlink.net>

What would the advantages be?
Besides sheer geek bravado display  :)

Teal

>
> Anyone for creating a fork of Perl that uses APR for platform 
> abstraction (instead of native Perl platform abstraction?)
>
>
>
> -- 
> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>
>
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From davidnicol at gmail.com  Wed Sep 11 22:27:17 2013
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 00:27:17 -0500
Subject: [Kc] mad idea
In-Reply-To: <523143BA.90808@earthlink.net>
References: <CAFwScO95PZx4aDMz54o_h=gZprZYjXDW0bcKVSWan8AwybHiWg@mail.gmail.com>
	<523143BA.90808@earthlink.net>
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1: the team gets very familiar with APR
2: the team gets very familiar with Perl internals
3: Perl (the language) gets abstracted away from Perl (the compatibility
layer)

I'm not sure if any of those meet the "besides" criterion.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Teal <ironicface at earthlink.net> wrote:

>  What would the advantages be?
> Besides sheer geek bravado display  :)
>
> Teal
>
>
>  Anyone for creating a fork of Perl that uses APR for platform abstraction
> (instead of native Perl platform abstraction?)
>
>
>
>  --
> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing listkc at pm.orghttp://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>
>
>
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From ironicface at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 11 23:44:24 2013
From: ironicface at earthlink.net (Teal)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 01:44:24 -0500
Subject: [Kc] mad idea
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Well, it sounds interesting.
How much time would it take per "x" cycle, and how many times would my 
brain explode per cycle?

Teal

> 1: the team gets very familiar with APR
> 2: the team gets very familiar with Perl internals
> 3: Perl (the language) gets abstracted away from Perl (the 
> compatibility layer)
>
> I'm not sure if any of those meet the "besides" criterion.
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Teal <ironicface at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:ironicface at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>     What would the advantages be?
>     Besides sheer geek bravado display  :)
>
>     Teal
>
>>
>>     Anyone for creating a fork of Perl that uses APR for platform
>>     abstraction (instead of native Perl platform abstraction?)
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
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From garrett.goebel at gmail.com  Thu Sep 12 04:30:05 2013
From: garrett.goebel at gmail.com (Garrett Goebel)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:30:05 -0400
Subject: [Kc] mad idea
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I think for the goals you listed, the timing would be good for getting
involved in v5 on mvm using 6model effort.

When coding MoarVM, the group working on it switched from APR to libuv. I
don't get the idea that there was anything wrong with APR. But that libuv's
async io wound up being a better fit. 6model is the metaobject layer
(similar to Moose). v5 is the Perl5 grammar a couple people are working on
to run Perl5 on the infrastructure being built for Perl6. The Rakudo Perl
efforts seems to have been picking up steam and adding developers over the
last year. Probably a good time to start hanging out on #perl6.

http://6guts.wordpress.com/




On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Teal <ironicface at earthlink.net> wrote:

>  Well, it sounds interesting.
> How much time would it take per "x" cycle, and how many times would my
> brain explode per cycle?
>
> Teal
>
>
>  1: the team gets very familiar with APR
> 2: the team gets very familiar with Perl internals
> 3: Perl (the language) gets abstracted away from Perl (the compatibility
> layer)
>
>  I'm not sure if any of those meet the "besides" criterion.
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Teal <ironicface at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>  What would the advantages be?
>> Besides sheer geek bravado display  :)
>>
>> Teal
>>
>>
>>  Anyone for creating a fork of Perl that uses APR for platform
>> abstraction (instead of native Perl platform abstraction?)
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>>
>>
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From davidnicol at gmail.com  Mon Sep 23 07:10:57 2013
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:10:57 -0500
Subject: [Kc] programming contest (C, C++, Java) next saturday
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http://explore.perceptivesoftware.com/discover/codedash/2013/index.html


3 ppl per team.



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From ironicface at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 24 09:19:30 2013
From: ironicface at earthlink.net (Teal)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:19:30 -0500
Subject: [Kc] programming contest (C, C++, Java) next saturday
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Did you decide to try this?

>
> http://explore.perceptivesoftware.com/discover/codedash/2013/index.html
>
>
> 3 ppl per team.
>
>
>
> -- 
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From davidnicol at gmail.com  Tue Sep 24 10:28:55 2013
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:28:55 -0500
Subject: [Kc] programming contest (C, C++, Java) next saturday
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who else wants to go? I'd rather be a team of 3 representing KCPM than go
alone


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Teal <ironicface at earthlink.net> wrote:

>  Did you decide to try this?
>
>
> http://explore.perceptivesoftware.com/discover/codedash/2013/index.html
>
>
>  3 ppl per team.
>
>
>
>  --
> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>
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From djgoku at gmail.com  Tue Sep 24 10:34:04 2013
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:34:04 -0500
Subject: [Kc] programming contest (C, C++, Java) next saturday
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So are we writing java or? 

Jonathan Otsuka

> On Sep 24, 2013, at 12:28 PM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> who else wants to go? I'd rather be a team of 3 representing KCPM than go alone
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Teal <ironicface at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Did you decide to try this?
>> 
>>> 
>>> http://explore.perceptivesoftware.com/discover/codedash/2013/index.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 3 ppl per team.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You've got
>>>             to wiggle before you can crawl
>>> 
>>>           
>>> 
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From ironicface at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 24 10:59:27 2013
From: ironicface at earthlink.net (Teal)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:59:27 -0500
Subject: [Kc] programming contest (C, C++, Java) next saturday
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I would be willing to join you, but I don't really code in any of those 
languages.
So, at best I could help think through problems.


> who else wants to go? I'd rather be a team of 3 representing KCPM than 
> go alone
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Teal <ironicface at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:ironicface at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>     Did you decide to try this?
>
>>
>>     http://explore.perceptivesoftware.com/discover/codedash/2013/index.html
>>
>>
>>     3 ppl per team.
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>>
>>
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From davidnicol at gmail.com  Tue Sep 24 11:04:56 2013
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 13:04:56 -0500
Subject: [Kc] programming contest (C, C++, Java) next saturday
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based on the way the ACM used to do them, programming contests consist of
several problems, and each team has a limited time to solve as many of them
as possible. The contest in question states C, C++, or Java.

C /may/ include Perl, if we bring it with us and compile it there --- but
probably not.


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:

> So are we writing java or?
>
> Jonathan Otsuka
>
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 12:28 PM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> who else wants to go? I'd rather be a team of 3 representing KCPM than go
> alone
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Teal <ironicface at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>  Did you decide to try this?
>>
>>
>> http://explore.perceptivesoftware.com/discover/codedash/2013/index.html
>>
>>
>>  3 ppl per team.
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>> You've got to wiggle before you can crawl
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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