From davidnicol at gmail.com  Tue May  1 08:24:44 2012
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 10:24:44 -0500
Subject: [Kc] proposal: functional C<if>
In-Reply-To: <20120501151108.GP3062@cel.leo>
References: <CAFwScO_eqLN92Gx=m5O9kT=H6nvNpjtTasrVZT41wFu1zmM_Og@mail.gmail.com>
	<20120501151108.GP3062@cel.leo>
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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Paul LeoNerd Evans
<leonerd at leonerd.org.uk> wrote:
> At which point we might consider what
>
> ?my @values = (while($cond) { EXPR });
>
> might do.
>
> Just a thought...

it seems clear that @values would wind up holding one of undef, 0, '',
or some overloaded reference that gives a false value in boolean
context..

From amoore at mooresystems.com  Tue May  1 09:15:14 2012
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:15:14 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Kansas City May 25, 26 - Hack the Midwest
In-Reply-To: <779C5AA4-72D5-4598-A91E-686285A72147@iinteractive.com>
References: <779C5AA4-72D5-4598-A91E-686285A72147@iinteractive.com>
Message-ID: <CAFAeay3ErvJoR46TgzXH6Nd=4j6s3CqneHS7=beWECg87U=9sw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm quite interested in going. I'm not sure if I can carve the time
for such a thing, though.

Let me know if you head down here for it!

-Andy


On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jay Hannah <jay.hannah at iinteractive.com> wrote:
> Anyone going to this?
>
> ? http://hackthemidwest.com/
>

From djgoku at gmail.com  Tue May  1 10:31:58 2012
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:31:58 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Kansas City May 25, 26 - Hack the Midwest
In-Reply-To: <CAFAeay3ErvJoR46TgzXH6Nd=4j6s3CqneHS7=beWECg87U=9sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <779C5AA4-72D5-4598-A91E-686285A72147@iinteractive.com>
	<CAFAeay3ErvJoR46TgzXH6Nd=4j6s3CqneHS7=beWECg87U=9sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <288F0587-6A54-4D4A-A211-A95F25A26F1F@gmail.com>

Sounds a lot like http://www.startupweekend.org which we have here too:  http://kansascity.startupweekend.org/

Jonathan Otsuka

On May 1, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Moore <amoore at mooresystems.com> wrote:

> I'm quite interested in going. I'm not sure if I can carve the time
> for such a thing, though.
> 
> Let me know if you head down here for it!
> 
> -Andy
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Jay Hannah <jay.hannah at iinteractive.com> wrote:
>> Anyone going to this?
>> 
>>   http://hackthemidwest.com/
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc

From lukewpatterson at gmail.com  Wed May  2 10:44:30 2012
From: lukewpatterson at gmail.com (Luke Patterson)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:44:30 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Isolated and repeatable Perl environment
Message-ID: <CALT88GjSdeE_dc-cEc2B_CiZTpmnwaa0rE0xtMAKTN3qGgj7nA@mail.gmail.com>

Mongers,

I'm creating an isolated, versioned environment to run some scripts in.
 The scripts are written in everything from Perl to Ruby to Python.

I have a few parts pretty much figured out.  I'm using:
Ruby: rbenv <https://github.com/sstephenson/rbenv>,
ruby-build<https://github.com/sstephenson/ruby-build>,
bundler <http://gembundler.com/>
Python: virtualenv <http://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv>,
pip<http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pip>
Node: npm <http://npmjs.org/>

What about Perl, though?

So far, for Perl, I like Perlbrew <http://perlbrew.pl/> for retrieving
Perls, but I'm not sure what to use for *module retrieval/installation*.
 Ideally, I want the Gemfile <http://gembundler.com/gemfile.html>/
package.json <http://package.json.nodejitsu.com/> approach where I can list
my *versioned* dependencies in a file, and let the tool download
everything.  I see some information in
http://www.cpan.org/modules/INSTALL.html , but I'm having a hard time
figuring out what I should use.

*What are the cool kids using?*  I don't need any build tool features, just
the ability to specify which libraries should be downloaded and installed
into the local, private collection of modules.


Thanks,
Luke
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From chrisstinemetz at gmail.com  Wed May  2 10:48:15 2012
From: chrisstinemetz at gmail.com (Chris Stinemetz)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:48:15 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Isolated and repeatable Perl environment
In-Reply-To: <CALT88GjSdeE_dc-cEc2B_CiZTpmnwaa0rE0xtMAKTN3qGgj7nA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALT88GjSdeE_dc-cEc2B_CiZTpmnwaa0rE0xtMAKTN3qGgj7nA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Luke Patterson <lukewpatterson at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Mongers,
>
> I'm creating an isolated, versioned environment to run some scripts in.
 The
> scripts are written in everything from Perl to Ruby to Python.
>
> I have a few parts pretty much figured out.  I'm using:
> Ruby: rbenv, ruby-build, bundler
> Python: virtualenv, pip
> Node: npm
>
> What about Perl, though?
>
> So far, for Perl, I like Perlbrew for retrieving Perls, but I'm not sure
> what to use for module retrieval/installation.  Ideally, I want the
> Gemfile/package.json approach where I can list my versioned dependencies
in
> a file, and let the tool download everything.  I see some information
> in http://www.cpan.org/modules/INSTALL.html , but I'm having a hard time
> figuring out what I should use.
>
> What are the cool kids using?  I don't need any build tool features, just
> the ability to specify which libraries should be downloaded and installed
> into the local, private collection of modules.
>

Have you checked out local::lib

http://search.cpan.org/~apeiron/local-lib-1.008004/lib/local/lib.pm

HTH,

Chris
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From lukewpatterson at gmail.com  Wed May  2 14:39:48 2012
From: lukewpatterson at gmail.com (Luke Patterson)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 16:39:48 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Isolated and repeatable Perl environment
In-Reply-To: <CA+HbpzirwmYLq-7GbEh51ifdQYQMj9P6vB1a4R6SwewqpHn0UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALT88GjSdeE_dc-cEc2B_CiZTpmnwaa0rE0xtMAKTN3qGgj7nA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+HbpzirwmYLq-7GbEh51ifdQYQMj9P6vB1a4R6SwewqpHn0UA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALT88Gh0CzzEMi6xKedz_K5e_NgU+xupjPkOoQWx3q7qegpjMg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Chris.

It looks like I'll probably be using some combination of cpanm, local::lib,
and perlbrew.

What is not quite clear to me yet is if the modules/scripts need to be
aware of and opt-in to using a local::lib-provisioned repo.  That's what
I'm researching now.
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From davidnicol at gmail.com  Wed May  2 15:56:21 2012
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:56:21 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Isolated and repeatable Perl environment
In-Reply-To: <CALT88Gh0CzzEMi6xKedz_K5e_NgU+xupjPkOoQWx3q7qegpjMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALT88GjSdeE_dc-cEc2B_CiZTpmnwaa0rE0xtMAKTN3qGgj7nA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+HbpzirwmYLq-7GbEh51ifdQYQMj9P6vB1a4R6SwewqpHn0UA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFwScO9x1CAT0YCc=7vOyeXb09r5iu2opAPcE2V+wnPg0V9TQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Luke Patterson <lukewpatterson at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks, Chris.
>
> It looks like I'll probably be using some combination of cpanm,
> local::lib, and perlbrew.
>
> What is not quite clear to me yet is if the modules/scripts need to be
> aware of and opt-in to using a local::lib-provisioned repo.  That's what
> I'm researching now.
>

please tell us what you discover?
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From davidnicol at gmail.com  Fri May  4 17:18:27 2012
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 19:18:27 -0500
Subject: [Kc] catalyastframework.org wiki is broken.
Message-ID: <CAFwScO-F0SEY_1noDjejg3s7ep9zYij=cj93mFOrTOTaGKW5TQ@mail.gmail.com>

the http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/ is broken:


Proxy Error

The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request *GET
/wiki/<http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/>
*.

Reason: *Error reading from remote server*

Additionally, a 502 Bad Gateway error was encountered while trying to use
an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
------------------------------
Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.5.1 mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 mod_ssl/2.2.9
OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at wiki.catalystframework.org Port 80

-- 
In this document, the key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL",
"SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
"OPTIONAL" are to be interpreted using situational ethics.
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From amoore at mooresystems.com  Fri May  4 17:51:12 2012
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 19:51:12 -0500
Subject: [Kc] catalyastframework.org wiki is broken.
In-Reply-To: <CAFwScO-F0SEY_1noDjejg3s7ep9zYij=cj93mFOrTOTaGKW5TQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFwScO-F0SEY_1noDjejg3s7ep9zYij=cj93mFOrTOTaGKW5TQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFAeay0dyHRYAynjnQTeheozATgZY=OzCu+uPE2Ff95Y-WxZ3Q@mail.gmail.com>

David -

I think ShadowCat runs that site.

-Andy

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:18 PM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
> the http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/ is broken:
>
>
> Proxy Error
>
> The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
> The proxy server could not handle the request GET?/wiki/.
>
> Reason: Error reading from remote server
>
> Additionally, a 502 Bad Gateway error was encountered while trying to use an
> ErrorDocument to handle the request.
>
> ________________________________
> Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.5.1 mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 mod_ssl/2.2.9
> OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at wiki.catalystframework.org Port 80
>
> --
> In this document, the key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL",
> "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
> "OPTIONAL" are to be interpreted using situational ethics.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc

From davidnicol at gmail.com  Fri May  4 17:53:28 2012
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 19:53:28 -0500
Subject: [Kc] catalyastframework.org wiki is broken.
In-Reply-To: <CAFAeay0dyHRYAynjnQTeheozATgZY=OzCu+uPE2Ff95Y-WxZ3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFwScO-F0SEY_1noDjejg3s7ep9zYij=cj93mFOrTOTaGKW5TQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFAeay0dyHRYAynjnQTeheozATgZY=OzCu+uPE2Ff95Y-WxZ3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFwScO8oTFBEaEnL2Epm8f3uSqAD252sBMW_tEGkAg_fMyYg0Q@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sure they'll fix it by and by.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSONP I sort of feel like claiming a username
of bogus&jsonp=alert various places and see if I get any alert boxes
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From don.ellis at gmail.com  Fri May  4 18:34:58 2012
From: don.ellis at gmail.com (Don Ellis)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 20:34:58 -0500
Subject: [Kc] catalyastframework.org wiki is broken.
In-Reply-To: <CAFAeay0dyHRYAynjnQTeheozATgZY=OzCu+uPE2Ff95Y-WxZ3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFwScO-F0SEY_1noDjejg3s7ep9zYij=cj93mFOrTOTaGKW5TQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFAeay0dyHRYAynjnQTeheozATgZY=OzCu+uPE2Ff95Y-WxZ3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALKyAetNrPfPh+BJGBQpQF=5vEZ-kObDT9VQMimNe2WXny1XOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Check it again -- I think it's working now.

--Don Ellis


On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Moore <amoore at mooresystems.com> wrote:
> David -
>
> I think ShadowCat runs that site.
>
> -Andy
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:18 PM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
>> the http://wiki.catalystframework.org/wiki/ is broken:
>>
>>
>> Proxy Error
>>
>> The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
>> The proxy server could not handle the request GET?/wiki/.
>>
>> Reason: Error reading from remote server
>>
>> Additionally, a 502 Bad Gateway error was encountered while trying to use an
>> ErrorDocument to handle the request.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.5.1 mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 mod_ssl/2.2.9
>> OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at wiki.catalystframework.org Port 80
>>
>> --
>> In this document, the key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL",
>> "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
>> "OPTIONAL" are to be interpreted using situational ethics.

From djgoku at gmail.com  Mon May  7 08:15:32 2012
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 10:15:32 -0500
Subject: [Kc] May 2012 Meeting?
In-Reply-To: <CAFAeay07N=asMGgw7P5_AJiRaoJw8hkOmd=1o-MYg-FtXK-Lpg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALT88GgiVX6vDCb-8D89A477aw5Bd_d2d+9k3er2EWWPc9wKWg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFAeay07N=asMGgw7P5_AJiRaoJw8hkOmd=1o-MYg-FtXK-Lpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A0D9EB85-8A66-43F5-B1F3-D23D945EE0C2@gmail.com>

I may be a little late. But I plan to attend. 

Jonathan Otsuka

On Apr 23, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Andrew Moore <amoore at mooresystems.com> wrote:

> Hi Luke -
> 
> Yes, let's get together on the 8th of May (the 2nd Tuesday) at 75th
> Street Brewery. I'd love it if you could share your experiences about
> mobile stuff. We're pretty relaxed about speakers these days, so I'd
> love it if someone like you would step up and keep us entertained for
> a few moments. Please let me know what I can do to help.
> 
> Thanks for letting me know about the site. I'll look into it.
> 
> -Andy
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Luke Patterson
> <lukewpatterson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Mongers,
>> 
>> I was wondering what was planned for next month's meeting.  Looks like the
>> site is down: http://kc.pm.org/
>> 
>> I can talk about some mobile stuff I've been working on if there isn't
>> another speaker planned yet.
>> 
>> At the Brewery again?  Is it on the 8th?
>> 
>> 
>> - Luke
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc

From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com  Mon May  7 16:18:34 2012
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 18:18:34 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Hack the Midwest pushed back to June 2, 3
References: <EBAC0F66-BEDF-4F19-BC32-9D6D2A9E33DD@iinteractive.com>
Message-ID: <48B420FA-B7D5-43A8-B6BF-9902315DFCA7@iinteractive.com>

http://www.hackthemidwest.com/ 
  June 2, 3
  Kansas City

Thanks,

Jay Hannah
Project Lead / Programmer
http://www.iinteractive.com
Email: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com
AOL IM: deafferret
Mobile: 1.402.598.7782
Fax: 1.402.691.9496






From amoore at mooresystems.com  Tue May  8 11:39:39 2012
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:39:39 -0500
Subject: [Kc] May meeting tonight 7pm at 75th Street Brewery
Message-ID: <CAFAeay1tY8xfZTJUJb-vLhccB1TWBALRQJjrAQCbvsKhTU-h2Q@mail.gmail.com>

Here's a reminder about tonight's Perl Mongers meeting. We'll get
together at 7pm at 75th Street Brewery. That's just a bit West of
Wornall on 75th Street. I'll grab a few high-top tables in the front.

Luke said he may talk a bit about some mobile work he's been doing,
and having just started playing with jquery mobile, I'd love to hear
about it and maybe chime in.

Anyone is invited, and we always love to see new folks, so don't be
shy about coming out!

You can reach me at 816-298-0826 if you have a hard time finding us or
something.

-Andy

From lukewpatterson at gmail.com  Tue May  8 14:08:05 2012
From: lukewpatterson at gmail.com (Luke Patterson)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 16:08:05 -0500
Subject: [Kc] May meeting tonight 7pm at 75th Street Brewery
In-Reply-To: <CAFAeay1tY8xfZTJUJb-vLhccB1TWBALRQJjrAQCbvsKhTU-h2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFAeay1tY8xfZTJUJb-vLhccB1TWBALRQJjrAQCbvsKhTU-h2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALT88GjmhFgsn4N1JwAfRJQ=0t+cX28OzJgQxZzJsbYK8jo8ug@mail.gmail.com>

Does it count if my "mobile" presentation is me playing Angry Birds??

jk, but I had hoped to be further along on my mobile dev environment by
now.  I got buried in an avalanche last week, so there isn't much to show
off tonight.

But I will buy a beer (whatever's on tap, don't get crazy) for anyone who
can help me with the Perl portion of my Vagrant <http://vagrantup.com/>
-managed, Chef <http://www.opscode.com/chef/>-configured "polyglot dev vm".
 That will serve as the base for my mobile work.

- Luke


On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Andrew Moore <amoore at mooresystems.com>wrote:

> Here's a reminder about tonight's Perl Mongers meeting. We'll get
> together at 7pm at 75th Street Brewery. That's just a bit West of
> Wornall on 75th Street. I'll grab a few high-top tables in the front.
>
> Luke said he may talk a bit about some mobile work he's been doing,
> and having just started playing with jquery mobile, I'd love to hear
> about it and maybe chime in.
>
> Anyone is invited, and we always love to see new folks, so don't be
> shy about coming out!
>
> You can reach me at 816-298-0826 if you have a hard time finding us or
> something.
>
> -Andy
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>
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From amoore at mooresystems.com  Tue May  8 14:26:20 2012
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 16:26:20 -0500
Subject: [Kc] May meeting tonight 7pm at 75th Street Brewery
In-Reply-To: <CALT88GjmhFgsn4N1JwAfRJQ=0t+cX28OzJgQxZzJsbYK8jo8ug@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFAeay1tY8xfZTJUJb-vLhccB1TWBALRQJjrAQCbvsKhTU-h2Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALT88GjmhFgsn4N1JwAfRJQ=0t+cX28OzJgQxZzJsbYK8jo8ug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFAeay3KmD-G2o-F7SBxG9S9yOsw2j-Rfsoizw+1Aomz9TqBow@mail.gmail.com>

Yes! This sounds like a great plan!
see you in a few hours.
-Andy

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Luke Patterson <lukewpatterson at gmail.com> wrote:
> Does it count if my "mobile" presentation is me playing Angry Birds??
>
> jk, but I had hoped to be further along on my mobile dev environment by now.
> ?I got buried in an avalanche last week, so there isn't much to show off
> tonight.
>
> But I will buy a beer (whatever's on tap, don't get crazy) for anyone who
> can help me with the Perl portion of my Vagrant-managed,?Chef-configured
> "polyglot dev vm". ?That will serve as the base for my mobile work.
>
> - Luke
>
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Andrew Moore <amoore at mooresystems.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Here's a reminder about tonight's Perl Mongers meeting. We'll get
>> together at 7pm at 75th Street Brewery. That's just a bit West of
>> Wornall on 75th Street. I'll grab a few high-top tables in the front.
>>
>> Luke said he may talk a bit about some mobile work he's been doing,
>> and having just started playing with jquery mobile, I'd love to hear
>> about it and maybe chime in.
>>
>> Anyone is invited, and we always love to see new folks, so don't be
>> shy about coming out!
>>
>> You can reach me at 816-298-0826 if you have a hard time finding us or
>> something.
>>
>> -Andy
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc

From amoore at mooresystems.com  Thu May 10 13:40:05 2012
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 15:40:05 -0500
Subject: [Kc] local PERL job
Message-ID: <CAFAeay3_9SF0x4E8NGMm5g2Wi+u03JhtMgdhMFFGP_8cLKzZ=Q@mail.gmail.com>

multiservice is looking for a PERL programmer again:

http://jobs.perl.org/job/15972

-Andy

From davidnicol at gmail.com  Thu May 10 14:26:16 2012
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 16:26:16 -0500
Subject: [Kc] local PERL job
In-Reply-To: <CAFAeay3_9SF0x4E8NGMm5g2Wi+u03JhtMgdhMFFGP_8cLKzZ=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFAeay3_9SF0x4E8NGMm5g2Wi+u03JhtMgdhMFFGP_8cLKzZ=Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FAC3278.4010109@gmail.com>

On 05/10/2012 03:40 PM, Andrew Moore wrote:
> multiservice is looking for a PERL programmer again:
>
> http://jobs.perl.org/job/15972
Rather, they're looking for three of them, and your friendly staffing
agent has probably already contacted you about it. For me, this notice
makes, err, four notices about this opening, including a heads-up about
the craigslist ad. Anyone else?

From davidnicol at gmail.com  Mon May 14 17:44:05 2012
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 19:44:05 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Quiz: what do these words listed in /usr/share/dict/words have
	in common?
Message-ID: <CAFwScO8N700cx9wtKFHbAO5-r81tBgyE=EWm9LKwN=mE8u=1Zg@mail.gmail.com>

AAPSS ABAFT ACHAB ADEPT ADMAN ADYGE AGATE AGENT APAMA ARRAH ATDRS ATTER
AWASH BAESE BAFTA BAHAN BAKST BANKA BATAD BEDAY BEEFY BENDY BEXAR BEZAE
BRANA BRYNN BSADV CABRE CADDY CAMBY CANGY CARED CARTS CCTAC CEDRY CHERT
CHEWY CREPE CSACC DACHS DAKER DAMEK DASYA DAVEN DEKED DENNA DENSE DESKS
DRANK DYANN EAGAN EVERT FANGS FANNY FECKS FRACK GADGE GARDY GEMSE GERRY
GNASH GRANE GRAWN GREER GWEED GYRED HAKKA HARPS HAYER HEDER HEHRE HEMET
HENEN HERSH JABEZ JAHVE JANTY JAPED JAPYX JAVAN JENNE KAETE KEARN KERST
KNAVE KREMS MAJKA MANQU MAPPY MARGE MASHA MATTE MAYNT NANTS NASAT NATES
NAWAB NEGEV NESSY PACHA PAGER PARAH PAREN PATHE PENES PEREA PETRA PHANE
PRESS RABAH RAMED RASES READE REARS REAST RENAY REPAS RESEE SAFER SANDY
SEAVE SEMES SESRA SHEAF SHENT SPACE SPART SPRAG STEEP SWANS TAATA TACAN
TACES TACKY TARTE TAVER TAWSY TEAER TETTY TRADE TSANA TWEEN TYTHE VACHE
VANNA VARAN VYASE WANDS WARDA WECHT WEETS WENDE WERRA WRAFS YARRY ZPRSN

-- 
"Oblige a man to rise at four in the morning, and it is more than probable
he will go willingly to bed at eight in the evening; and, having had eight
hours sleep, he will rise more willingly at four in the morning following."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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From plasticchris at gmail.com  Mon May 14 19:10:20 2012
From: plasticchris at gmail.com (Chris)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:10:20 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Quiz: what do these words listed in /usr/share/dict/words
 have	in common?
Message-ID: <tq8iceg38nbib3tx0slw576h.1337047820033@email.android.com>

The number Five 

David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:

>AAPSS ABAFT ACHAB ADEPT ADMAN ADYGE AGATE AGENT APAMA ARRAH ATDRS ATTER
>AWASH BAESE BAFTA BAHAN BAKST BANKA BATAD BEDAY BEEFY BENDY BEXAR BEZAE
>BRANA BRYNN BSADV CABRE CADDY CAMBY CANGY CARED CARTS CCTAC CEDRY CHERT
>CHEWY CREPE CSACC DACHS DAKER DAMEK DASYA DAVEN DEKED DENNA DENSE DESKS
>DRANK DYANN EAGAN EVERT FANGS FANNY FECKS FRACK GADGE GARDY GEMSE GERRY
>GNASH GRANE GRAWN GREER GWEED GYRED HAKKA HARPS HAYER HEDER HEHRE HEMET
>HENEN HERSH JABEZ JAHVE JANTY JAPED JAPYX JAVAN JENNE KAETE KEARN KERST
>KNAVE KREMS MAJKA MANQU MAPPY MARGE MASHA MATTE MAYNT NANTS NASAT NATES
>NAWAB NEGEV NESSY PACHA PAGER PARAH PAREN PATHE PENES PEREA PETRA PHANE
>PRESS RABAH RAMED RASES READE REARS REAST RENAY REPAS RESEE SAFER SANDY
>SEAVE SEMES SESRA SHEAF SHENT SPACE SPART SPRAG STEEP SWANS TAATA TACAN
>TACES TACKY TARTE TAVER TAWSY TEAER TETTY TRADE TSANA TWEEN TYTHE VACHE
>VANNA VARAN VYASE WANDS WARDA WECHT WEETS WENDE WERRA WRAFS YARRY ZPRSN
>
>-- 
>"Oblige a man to rise at four in the morning, and it is more than probable
>he will go willingly to bed at eight in the evening; and, having had eight
>hours sleep, he will rise more willingly at four in the morning following."
>-- Benjamin Franklin
>
>_______________________________________________
>kc mailing list
>kc at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc

From plasticchris at gmail.com  Mon May 14 19:10:20 2012
From: plasticchris at gmail.com (Chris)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:10:20 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Quiz: what do these words listed in /usr/share/dict/words
 have	in common?
Message-ID: <tq8iceg38nbib3tx0slw576h.1337047820033@email.android.com>

The number Five 

David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:

>AAPSS ABAFT ACHAB ADEPT ADMAN ADYGE AGATE AGENT APAMA ARRAH ATDRS ATTER
>AWASH BAESE BAFTA BAHAN BAKST BANKA BATAD BEDAY BEEFY BENDY BEXAR BEZAE
>BRANA BRYNN BSADV CABRE CADDY CAMBY CANGY CARED CARTS CCTAC CEDRY CHERT
>CHEWY CREPE CSACC DACHS DAKER DAMEK DASYA DAVEN DEKED DENNA DENSE DESKS
>DRANK DYANN EAGAN EVERT FANGS FANNY FECKS FRACK GADGE GARDY GEMSE GERRY
>GNASH GRANE GRAWN GREER GWEED GYRED HAKKA HARPS HAYER HEDER HEHRE HEMET
>HENEN HERSH JABEZ JAHVE JANTY JAPED JAPYX JAVAN JENNE KAETE KEARN KERST
>KNAVE KREMS MAJKA MANQU MAPPY MARGE MASHA MATTE MAYNT NANTS NASAT NATES
>NAWAB NEGEV NESSY PACHA PAGER PARAH PAREN PATHE PENES PEREA PETRA PHANE
>PRESS RABAH RAMED RASES READE REARS REAST RENAY REPAS RESEE SAFER SANDY
>SEAVE SEMES SESRA SHEAF SHENT SPACE SPART SPRAG STEEP SWANS TAATA TACAN
>TACES TACKY TARTE TAVER TAWSY TEAER TETTY TRADE TSANA TWEEN TYTHE VACHE
>VANNA VARAN VYASE WANDS WARDA WECHT WEETS WENDE WERRA WRAFS YARRY ZPRSN
>
>-- 
>"Oblige a man to rise at four in the morning, and it is more than probable
>he will go willingly to bed at eight in the evening; and, having had eight
>hours sleep, he will rise more willingly at four in the morning following."
>-- Benjamin Franklin
>
>_______________________________________________
>kc mailing list
>kc at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc

From davidnicol at gmail.com  Tue May 15 08:22:14 2012
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 10:22:14 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Quiz: what do these words listed in /usr/share/dict/words
	have in common?
In-Reply-To: <CAFwScO8N700cx9wtKFHbAO5-r81tBgyE=EWm9LKwN=mE8u=1Zg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFwScO8N700cx9wtKFHbAO5-r81tBgyE=EWm9LKwN=mE8u=1Zg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFwScO9akoc=0RPdxWpLWcDcvNWYYF625V2zrmX0p-n-WrC9Hw@mail.gmail.com>

I will give hints in the form of yes/no questions. In the event of twenty
constructive questions asked and answered and no announcement of the answer
I will reveal it. Free hint: the list is exhaustive, containing all
five-letter words from a Centos 5 words file having the property.
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From scott.kahler at gmail.com  Tue May 15 08:37:11 2012
From: scott.kahler at gmail.com (Scott Kahler)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 10:37:11 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Quiz: what do these words listed in /usr/share/dict/words
 have in common?
In-Reply-To: <CAFwScO9akoc=0RPdxWpLWcDcvNWYYF625V2zrmX0p-n-WrC9Hw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFwScO8N700cx9wtKFHbAO5-r81tBgyE=EWm9LKwN=mE8u=1Zg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFwScO9akoc=0RPdxWpLWcDcvNWYYF625V2zrmX0p-n-WrC9Hw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+gF58dO4JaPy-LUrDE0bd7jbUVh-bNt2Yu5utms+L8Se6_FMA@mail.gmail.com>

All words have the potential to score 15 points if they were able to be
played legally in Words with Friends


On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:22 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I will give hints in the form of yes/no questions. In the event of twenty
> constructive questions asked and answered and no announcement of the answer
> I will reveal it. Free hint: the list is exhaustive, containing all
> five-letter words from a Centos 5 words file having the property.
>
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>



-- 
Scott Kahler
scott.kahler at gmail.com
816.237.0610
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From don.ellis at gmail.com  Tue May 15 12:47:09 2012
From: don.ellis at gmail.com (Don Ellis)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 14:47:09 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Quiz: what do these words listed in /usr/share/dict/words
 have in common?
In-Reply-To: <CA+gF58dO4JaPy-LUrDE0bd7jbUVh-bNt2Yu5utms+L8Se6_FMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFwScO8N700cx9wtKFHbAO5-r81tBgyE=EWm9LKwN=mE8u=1Zg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFwScO9akoc=0RPdxWpLWcDcvNWYYF625V2zrmX0p-n-WrC9Hw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+gF58dO4JaPy-LUrDE0bd7jbUVh-bNt2Yu5utms+L8Se6_FMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALKyAeujEyU3ohBWyYr8GuNvjqFH6fi34c9aSRo10Dwnf+HzYw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Scott Kahler <scott.kahler at gmail.com> wrote:
> All words have the potential to score 15 points if they were able to be
> played legally in Words with Friends

But not when a plane is preparing for departure!

--Don Ellis


> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:22 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I will give hints in the form of yes/no questions. In the event of twenty
>> constructive questions asked and answered and no announcement of the answer
>> I will reveal it. Free hint: the list is exhaustive, containing all
>> five-letter words from a Centos 5 words file having the property.
>>

From lukewpatterson at gmail.com  Thu May 17 19:35:05 2012
From: lukewpatterson at gmail.com (Luke Patterson)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 21:35:05 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Loading files from the current working directory
Message-ID: <CALT88GgHGJxWm86pmmi9soSfjRvst-PwrBBrML=OxXZftxGLaQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm having troubles loading files from the current working directory.

e.g.
running this:
    use Parse::CPAN::Meta;
    my $distmeta = Parse::CPAN::Meta->load_file('META.json');
yields:
    "can't open META.json for reading: No such file or directory at
/home/vagrant/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.14.2/lib/5.14.2/Parse/CPAN/Meta.pm line
87."

even though the file is indeed in the same directory as the script and the
same directory from which I launch the script

I verified that the current working directory is correct by running:
    use Cwd;
    my $dir = cwd();
    print $dir
which yields the correct working directory


I've tried passing simple file names and fully-qualified files names with
path but neither seems to work.  It doesn't seem to be just that API call
shown above, a couple others API calls I've tried don't seem to work either.

I must be missing something basic.  Ideas?


Thanks,
Luke
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From ironicface at earthlink.net  Thu May 17 19:40:57 2012
From: ironicface at earthlink.net (Teal)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 21:40:57 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Loading files from the current working directory
In-Reply-To: <CALT88GgHGJxWm86pmmi9soSfjRvst-PwrBBrML=OxXZftxGLaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALT88GgHGJxWm86pmmi9soSfjRvst-PwrBBrML=OxXZftxGLaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FB5B6B9.8040904@earthlink.net>

Is the file being read from the level of the module?
(Where it doesn't exist.)

Teak

> I'm having troubles loading files from the current working directory.
>
> e.g.
> running this:
>     use Parse::CPAN::Meta;
>     my $distmeta = Parse::CPAN::Meta->load_file('META.json');
> yields:
>     "can't open META.json for reading: No such file or directory at 
> /home/vagrant/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.14.2/lib/5.14.2/Parse/CPAN/Meta.pm 
> line 87."
>
> even though the file is indeed in the same directory as the script and 
> the same directory from which I launch the script
>
> I verified that the current working directory is correct by running:
>     use Cwd;
>     my $dir = cwd();
>     print $dir
> which yields the correct working directory
>
>
> I've tried passing simple file names and fully-qualified files names 
> with path but neither seems to work.  It doesn't seem to be just that 
> API call shown above, a couple others API calls I've tried don't seem 
> to work either.
>
> I must be missing something basic.  Ideas?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Luke
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc

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From djgoku at gmail.com  Thu May 17 22:09:31 2012
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 00:09:31 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Loading files from the current working directory
In-Reply-To: <CALT88GgHGJxWm86pmmi9soSfjRvst-PwrBBrML=OxXZftxGLaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALT88GgHGJxWm86pmmi9soSfjRvst-PwrBBrML=OxXZftxGLaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E8D99F56-6515-4F68-84B6-03986AF90089@gmail.com>

This worked on my Mac using the examples (META.yml) they posted on the perldoc.

mbp:Development dj_goku$ cat parse_cpan_meta.pl
use Parse::CPAN::Meta;
    
my $distmeta = Parse::CPAN::Meta->load_file('META.yml');
    
    # Reading properties
my $name     = $distmeta->{name};
my $version  = $distmeta->{version};
my $homepage = $distmeta->{resources}{homepage};

print $name, $version, $homepage;
mbp:Development dj_goku$ cat META.yml
---
   name: My-Distribution
   version: 1.23
   resources:
      homepage: "http://example.com/dist/My-Distribution"
mbp:Development dj_goku$ perl -v

This is perl 5, version 14, subversion 1 (v5.14.1) built for darwin-thread-multi-2level

Jonathan Otsuka
On May 17, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Luke Patterson wrote:

> I'm having troubles loading files from the current working directory.
> 
> e.g.
> running this:
>     use Parse::CPAN::Meta;
>     my $distmeta = Parse::CPAN::Meta->load_file('META.json');
> yields:
>     "can't open META.json for reading: No such file or directory at /home/vagrant/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.14.2/lib/5.14.2/Parse/CPAN/Meta.pm line 87."
> 
> even though the file is indeed in the same directory as the script and the same directory from which I launch the script
> 
> I verified that the current working directory is correct by running:
>     use Cwd;
>     my $dir = cwd();
>     print $dir
> which yields the correct working directory
> 
> 
> I've tried passing simple file names and fully-qualified files names with path but neither seems to work.  It doesn't seem to be just that API call shown above, a couple others API calls I've tried don't seem to work either.
> 
> I must be missing something basic.  Ideas?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Luke
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc


From jason+kcpm at jlrush.com  Thu May 17 22:24:54 2012
From: jason+kcpm at jlrush.com (Jason Rush)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 00:24:54 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Loading files from the current working directory
In-Reply-To: <E8D99F56-6515-4F68-84B6-03986AF90089@gmail.com>
References: <CALT88GgHGJxWm86pmmi9soSfjRvst-PwrBBrML=OxXZftxGLaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<E8D99F56-6515-4F68-84B6-03986AF90089@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO9dmMwB181jR_iFyMB_rh+raq22nYF=YV4LOujZs16FpnF9Vw@mail.gmail.com>

>
> > yields:
> >     "can't open META.json for reading: No such file or directory at
> /home/vagrant/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.14.2/lib/5.14.2/Parse/CPAN/Meta.pm line
> 87."
>

I recreated the package methods used to read the file and it worked for me.
 If it was a permission problem, the error would state that, e.g.
'Permission denied...'

A few suggestions, not trying to talk down, so please don't take offense,
but you may need to make sure the filename on the system matches exactly
what you use in the script including case.  Also, you may want to verify
that there are no whitespace characters hidden in either the filename on
the system or in the perl script.

For example, note the added space in the filename when it is created:
$ echo 'Hello World' >'input.txt '
$ ls -al
total 40
drwxr-xr-x  3 jrush  jrush  512 May 18 00:05 .
drwxr-xr-x  9 jrush  jrush  512 May 17 23:45 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 jrush  jrush   12 May 18 00:07 input.txt
drwxr-xr-x  3 jrush  jrush  512 May 17 23:45 lib
-rw-r--r--  1 jrush  jrush  218 May 18 00:07 test.pl
$ perl test.pl
can't open input.txt for reading: No such file or directory at
lib/JLR/File/Reader.pm line 10.

Hope that helps.

Jason Rush
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From lukewpatterson at gmail.com  Fri May 18 10:09:16 2012
From: lukewpatterson at gmail.com (Luke Patterson)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 12:09:16 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Loading files from the current working directory
In-Reply-To: <CAO9dmMwB181jR_iFyMB_rh+raq22nYF=YV4LOujZs16FpnF9Vw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALT88GgHGJxWm86pmmi9soSfjRvst-PwrBBrML=OxXZftxGLaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<E8D99F56-6515-4F68-84B6-03986AF90089@gmail.com>
	<CAO9dmMwB181jR_iFyMB_rh+raq22nYF=YV4LOujZs16FpnF9Vw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALT88GhdxSjk_v-VV5-zeBGmAEUfsYq-+8iE7e_t4trxeM77qw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, everyone.

Your answers gave me confidence that it "should have worked" and that there
wasn't any fundamental concept I needed to learn wrt Perl's relationship
with the cwd.

So, I dug around long enough to see that it was most likely a
permissions/configuration issue with my perlbrew install.

I think it was because I using/installing perlbrew with root and then
trying to run a script as user.  Something like that.

All looks good now, though!

I am using Chef's <http://www.opscode.com/chef/> perlbrew
cook<http://community.opscode.com/cookbooks/perlbrew> to
provision my Vagrant box with a Perl of my choosing, and also install
mymeta-requires<http://www.dagolden.com/index.php/1528/five-ways-to-install-modules-prereqs-by-hand/>.
 I can then use mymeta-requires to read in my
META.json<http://blogs.perl.org/users/david_cantrell/2012/05/cpandeps-now-understands-metajson-files.html>file
to pipe over to cpanm.  Now I have a nice declarative file to keep all
my script dependencies in.


Thanks again, have a great Friday.

Luke
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From lukewpatterson at gmail.com  Fri May 18 11:44:47 2012
From: lukewpatterson at gmail.com (Luke Patterson)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:44:47 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Loading files from the current working directory
In-Reply-To: <CALT88GhdxSjk_v-VV5-zeBGmAEUfsYq-+8iE7e_t4trxeM77qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALT88GgHGJxWm86pmmi9soSfjRvst-PwrBBrML=OxXZftxGLaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<E8D99F56-6515-4F68-84B6-03986AF90089@gmail.com>
	<CAO9dmMwB181jR_iFyMB_rh+raq22nYF=YV4LOujZs16FpnF9Vw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALT88GhdxSjk_v-VV5-zeBGmAEUfsYq-+8iE7e_t4trxeM77qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALT88GjJianxw8JDYPOZXfCZGAknT25OdNs5gDfWTtO6dXrsXg@mail.gmail.com>

Oh yeah, and in my thrashing around I didn't realize that the error
messages of mymeta-requires don't distinguish between a non-existent file
and a file which is missing some required
elements<http://search.cpan.org/~dagolden/CPAN-Meta/lib/CPAN/Meta/Spec.pm>
In my tests, I was using a stripped-down version, thinking that would help
me eliminate extra noise.

Interestingly, a malformed META file at least produces a parse error, which
is more helpful than thinking the file is missing.

In my tests, I could get by with as few elements as:

{
   "meta-spec" : {
      "url" : "http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?CPAN::Meta::Spec",
      "version" : "2"
   },
   "name" : "some_name",
   "prereqs" : {
      "runtime" : {
         "requires" : {
            "CMD::Colors" : 0
         }
      }
   },
   "version" : "0"
}
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From jay at jays.net  Sat May 26 15:20:08 2012
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 17:20:08 -0500
Subject: [Kc] YAPC::NA stats - Omaha, KC?
Message-ID: <71FFFF7C-91D2-4DB1-8B0F-A0F8E584C9BE@jays.net>

Boo! Looks like I'm the only Omaha attendee again?

  http://act.yapcna.org/2012/stats

Aren't there 3 KC folks going?

j
Omaha, NE





From davidnicol at gmail.com  Sat May 26 23:29:07 2012
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 01:29:07 -0500
Subject: [Kc] YAPC::NA stats - Omaha, KC?
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On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:
> Boo! Looks like I'm the only Omaha attendee again?
>
> ?http://act.yapcna.org/2012/stats
>
> Aren't there 3 KC folks going?
>
> j
> Omaha, NE

http://act.yapcna.org/2012/user/222 lives in Lawrence, although she
didn't claim affiliation with kc.pm. Looking at her blog, she's
currently overseas.

From davidnicol at gmail.com  Sat May 26 23:30:47 2012
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 01:30:47 -0500
Subject: [Kc] YAPC::NA stats - Omaha, KC?
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On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:
> Boo! Looks like I'm the only Omaha attendee again?
>
> ?http://act.yapcna.org/2012/stats

There's also a contingent from Des Moines.
http://act.yapcna.org/2012/search?pm_group=DesMoines.pm

From sterling at hanenkamp.com  Sun May 27 13:02:17 2012
From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 15:02:17 -0500
Subject: [Kc] YAPC::NA stats - Omaha, KC?
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I'll be there again this year. I think the stats are kinda messed up in
general since the folks running it this year decided to start with a
completely independent ACT web site, which kind of annoys me. I also don't
really care for how badly they integrated ACT with the rest of the site (or
at least how it was early on, they may have fixed it by now).

Anyway, I never managed to fill in my details. I should do that sometime...

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 1:30 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:
> > Boo! Looks like I'm the only Omaha attendee again?
> >
> >  http://act.yapcna.org/2012/stats
>
> There's also a contingent from Des Moines.
> http://act.yapcna.org/2012/search?pm_group=DesMoines.pm
> _______________________________________________
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From sterling at hanenkamp.com  Sun May 27 13:09:34 2012
From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 15:09:34 -0500
Subject: [Kc] YAPC::NA stats - Omaha, KC?
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Or hey, maybe they broke it so that I can't actually update my profile. I
just did and it's blank again. I kinda thought I'd already done that... :(

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Sterling Hanenkamp
<sterling at hanenkamp.com>wrote:

> I'll be there again this year. I think the stats are kinda messed up in
> general since the folks running it this year decided to start with a
> completely independent ACT web site, which kind of annoys me. I also don't
> really care for how badly they integrated ACT with the rest of the site (or
> at least how it was early on, they may have fixed it by now).
>
> Anyway, I never managed to fill in my details. I should do that sometime...
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 1:30 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:
>> > Boo! Looks like I'm the only Omaha attendee again?
>> >
>> >  http://act.yapcna.org/2012/stats
>>
>> There's also a contingent from Des Moines.
>> http://act.yapcna.org/2012/search?pm_group=DesMoines.pm
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp
> sterling at hanenkamp.com
> 785.370.4454
>



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From alanvoss at gmail.com  Sun May 27 17:41:15 2012
From: alanvoss at gmail.com (Alan Voss)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 19:41:15 -0500
Subject: [Kc] kc Digest, Vol 103, Issue 13
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I wouldn't place much stock in the statistics.  Mine has no city or
monger group listed.  I'm just a member of "United States"...

See you all there!

Alan

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> Boo! Looks like I'm the only Omaha attendee again?
>
> ?http://act.yapcna.org/2012/stats
>
> Aren't there 3 KC folks going?
>
> j
> Omaha, NE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 01:29:07 -0500
> From: David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com>
> To: "Kansas City Perl Mongers (kc.pm)" <kc at pm.org>
> Subject: Re: [Kc] YAPC::NA stats - Omaha, KC?
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>
> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:
>> Boo! Looks like I'm the only Omaha attendee again?
>>
>> ?http://act.yapcna.org/2012/stats
>>
>> Aren't there 3 KC folks going?
>>
>> j
>> Omaha, NE
>
> http://act.yapcna.org/2012/user/222 lives in Lawrence, although she
> didn't claim affiliation with kc.pm. Looking at her blog, she's
> currently overseas.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 01:30:47 -0500
> From: David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com>
> To: "Kansas City Perl Mongers (kc.pm)" <kc at pm.org>
> Subject: Re: [Kc] YAPC::NA stats - Omaha, KC?
> Message-ID:
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>
> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:
>> Boo! Looks like I'm the only Omaha attendee again?
>>
>> ?http://act.yapcna.org/2012/stats
>
> There's also a contingent from Des Moines.
> http://act.yapcna.org/2012/search?pm_group=DesMoines.pm
>
>
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From jason+kcpm at jlrush.com  Tue May 29 09:50:31 2012
From: jason+kcpm at jlrush.com (Jason Rush)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:50:31 -0500
Subject: [Kc] YAPC::NA stats - Omaha, KC?
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I just updated my profile and I am now found in the stats.  If it was
broken, it seems to be fixed now.

Jason Rush

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Sterling Hanenkamp
<sterling at hanenkamp.com>wrote:

> Or hey, maybe they broke it so that I can't actually update my profile. I
> just did and it's blank again. I kinda thought I'd already done that... :(
>
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Sterling Hanenkamp <
> sterling at hanenkamp.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll be there again this year. I think the stats are kinda messed up in
>> general since the folks running it this year decided to start with a
>> completely independent ACT web site, which kind of annoys me. I also don't
>> really care for how badly they integrated ACT with the rest of the site (or
>> at least how it was early on, they may have fixed it by now).
>>
>> Anyway, I never managed to fill in my details. I should do that
>> sometime...
>>
>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 1:30 AM, David Nicol <davidnicol at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net> wrote:
>>> > Boo! Looks like I'm the only Omaha attendee again?
>>> >
>>> >  http://act.yapcna.org/2012/stats
>>>
>>> There's also a contingent from Des Moines.
>>> http://act.yapcna.org/2012/search?pm_group=DesMoines.pm
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>
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