From amoore at mooresystems.com Wed Sep 7 09:55:53 2011 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:55:53 -0500 Subject: [Kc] September KCPM meeting Message-ID: The 2nd Tuesday of September is next week, on the 13th. Anyone interested in getting together for a pint of beer and a brief chat about local tech things? -Andy From amoore at mooresystems.com Tue Sep 13 08:14:21 2011 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:14:21 -0500 Subject: [Kc] September KCPM meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The meeting tonight has been cancelled due to lack of interest. There are over 100 people on this mailing list. I welcome ideas or advice on all aspects of any future meetings we may want to have. Thanks, -Andy On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Andrew Moore wrote: > The 2nd Tuesday of September is next week, on the 13th. Anyone > interested in getting together for a pint of beer and a brief chat > about local tech things? > > -Andy > From davidnicol at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 10:00:30 2011 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:00:30 -0500 Subject: [Kc] September KCPM meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ah, a return to historic apathy levels. I remember the day the KCPM held a ceremonial reading of RFC 822 in honor of it's twentieth birthday. If anyone else tells you they remember it too, they're lying, because nobody (besides me) showed up for it. So I read it silently. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Andrew Moore wrote: > The meeting tonight has been cancelled due to lack of interest. From cscheppers at kc.rr.com Tue Sep 13 13:41:16 2011 From: cscheppers at kc.rr.com (C.J. Scheppers) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:41:16 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meeting attendance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I am unable to get to Barleycorn and return home. I did attend the meetings when they were held at the Planet Sub on 50th & Main Street, Kansas City. Over the last year, I've had a few perl tasks. C.J. >The meeting tonight has been cancelled due to lack of interest. > >There are over 100 people on this mailing list. I welcome ideas or >advice on all aspects of any future meetings we may want to have. > >Thanks, >-Andy From sterling at hanenkamp.com Tue Sep 13 14:33:00 2011 From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:33:00 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meeting attendance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wonder if you could drum up more interest in the PM meetings via a similar user group for other languages or related topics, like the Jay does in Omaha via ODLUG (http://odlug.org/)? I don't think that's the purpose of ODLUG, but I think it must help. The KC.pm meetings are too small to entice me to make a 2 hour drive to and from Manhattan. If they were better attended, I could probably justify the trip a few times a year, though. I'd also be willing to give either the Telecommute talk I've given at YAPC the last couple years or the Web Application Security talk I will give at the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop next month, if there are enough people interested. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:41 PM, C.J. Scheppers wrote: > Hi, > > I am unable to get to Barleycorn and return home. I did attend the > meetings when they were held at the Planet Sub on 50th & Main Street, Kansas > City. > > Over the last year, I've had a few perl tasks. > > C.J. > > The meeting tonight has been cancelled due to lack of interest. >> >> There are over 100 people on this mailing list. I welcome ideas or >> advice on all aspects of any future meetings we may want to have. >> >> Thanks, >> -Andy >> > ______________________________**_________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/**listinfo/kc > -- Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp sterling at hanenkamp.com 785.370.4454 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidnicol at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 19:44:02 2011 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:44:02 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meeting attendance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We could probably use the CCCKC cave for a more presentation-friendly space. Any CCCKC members here? -- "For sustained activity, a work rate of about 1?hp per horse is consistent with agricultural advice from both 19th and 20th century sources."??-- Wikipedia From ironicface at earthlink.net Tue Sep 13 19:51:00 2011 From: ironicface at earthlink.net (Teal) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:51:00 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meeting attendance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E701694.5050202@earthlink.net> On 09/13/2011 09:44 PM, David Nicol wrote: > We could probably use the CCCKC cave for a more presentation-friendly > space. Any CCCKC members here? > They are moving out of the cave to Brookside. From rsaxvc at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 20:20:38 2011 From: rsaxvc at gmail.com (Richard Allen) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:20:38 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meeting attendance In-Reply-To: <4E701694.5050202@earthlink.net> References: <4E701694.5050202@earthlink.net> Message-ID: but the cave is still functional for now On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Teal wrote: > On 09/13/2011 09:44 PM, David Nicol wrote: >> >> We could probably use the CCCKC cave for a more presentation-friendly >> space. Any CCCKC members here? >> > They are moving out of the cave to Brookside. > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > From djgoku at gmail.com Wed Sep 14 07:29:49 2011 From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:29:49 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Catalyst Deployment Message-ID: <8FA2370A-F2F4-415F-8598-05645D40B478@gmail.com> I would like to deploy a small app, but not sure which option I should pick. I would like setup to be as easy aa possible. Jonathan Otsuka From sterling at hanenkamp.com Wed Sep 14 08:57:42 2011 From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:57:42 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Catalyst Deployment In-Reply-To: <8FA2370A-F2F4-415F-8598-05645D40B478@gmail.com> References: <8FA2370A-F2F4-415F-8598-05645D40B478@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you don't need Apache or whatever helping you out for the moment, you could use Starman, this assumes you're using the latest Catalyst with full Plack support. Once Starman is installed, it should be as easy as: starman myapp.psgi where "myapp.psgi" is the PSGI script the latest Catalyst provides for your application. Then, later, if you want nginx or Apache or lighttpd or whatever the favorite web server du jour is to help with security or routing or static file service or load balancing or something, you can just provide a reverse proxy to your starman server. On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote: > I would like to deploy a small app, but not sure which option I should > pick. I would like setup to be as easy aa possible. > > Jonathan Otsuka > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -- Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp sterling at hanenkamp.com 785.370.4454 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay at jays.net Wed Sep 14 08:58:20 2011 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:58:20 -0600 Subject: [Kc] meeting attendance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3491E032-5BE8-4CB7-8A61-2336B7C12FEB@jays.net> On Sep 13, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Sterling Hanenkamp wrote: > I wonder if you could drum up more interest in the PM meetings via a similar user group for other languages or related topics, like the Jay does in Omaha via ODLUG (http://odlug.org/)? I don't think that's the purpose of ODLUG, but I think it must help. Omaha Perl Mongers was separate, but I grew tired of being the sole presenter every month. So we threw in with ODLUG, a larger more diverse umbrella group. Then those leaders moved out of state leaving me "in charge" of "both groups." :) Since we cast a wide net we usually get 4-8 people each month and the meetings are interesting and very diverse. j http://odlug.org From jay at jays.net Wed Sep 14 09:03:31 2011 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:03:31 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Catalyst Deployment In-Reply-To: References: <8FA2370A-F2F4-415F-8598-05645D40B478@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5174820D-2A28-49CC-9950-1CC1B003345F@jays.net> On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Sterling Hanenkamp wrote: > If you don't need Apache or whatever helping you out for the moment, you could use Starman, this assumes you're using the latest Catalyst with full Plack support. Once Starman is installed, it should be as easy as: > > starman myapp.psgi Yup. Just start here: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Manual/lib/Catalyst/Manual.pm Catalyst ships with a great development server. Once you've developed your application there are lots of deployment options (Starman and friends). Cheers, j From jason+kcpm at jlrush.com Wed Sep 14 12:41:32 2011 From: jason+kcpm at jlrush.com (Jason Rush) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:41:32 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Catalyst Deployment In-Reply-To: <5174820D-2A28-49CC-9950-1CC1B003345F@jays.net> References: <8FA2370A-F2F4-415F-8598-05645D40B478@gmail.com> <5174820D-2A28-49CC-9950-1CC1B003345F@jays.net> Message-ID: > On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Sterling Hanenkamp wrote: >> If you don't need Apache or whatever helping you out for the moment, you could use Starman, this assumes you're using the latest Catalyst with full Plack support. Once Starman is installed, it should be as easy as: >> >> starman myapp.psgi > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jay Hannah wrote: > Yup. Just start here: > > ? http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Manual/lib/Catalyst/Manual.pm > > Catalyst ships with a great development server. Once you've developed your application there are lots of deployment options (Starman and friends). This is NOT a better solution. If you cannot install or use Starman and you already have an Apache instance running, you can run the Catalyst controller through a CGI. Not something I would want to use in a production environment, but I did have to use it before due to the many restrictions of the server (a few years ago). Look in the script directory in your Catalyst application directory. There should be a myapp_cgi.pl script (where myapp is the name of of your Catalyst application). You may need or want to copy that script to a cgi-bin directory. If so, remember to add the Catalyst application's directory to Perl's library path: e.g. use lib '/path/to/MyApp/lib'; I used this a few years ago, so things have likely changed. YMMV From sterling at hanenkamp.com Wed Sep 14 14:04:13 2011 From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:04:13 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Catalyst Deployment In-Reply-To: References: <8FA2370A-F2F4-415F-8598-05645D40B478@gmail.com> <5174820D-2A28-49CC-9950-1CC1B003345F@jays.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Jason Rush wrote: > > This is NOT a better solution. If you cannot install or use Starman > and you already have an Apache instance running... That's a pretty big "if" in 2011. If you're not stuck on a cheap 2008-style shared host or on some University-owned machine or somewhere else you don't control the environment and aren't allowed to run servers: agreed, CGI is the default position for the old world. However, I assumed everyone on earth new about that since Matt's Script Archive was invented. Perhaps that was a false assumption. However, you can find cloud hosting where you get root on your own virtual machine in the $100-250/year range nowadays (free for a year from Amazon), so I'd recommend moving that direction if you haven't already. Old style shared hosting is going to start disappearing from the interwebs in the next few years. If you want to be really hip, you can try out cloud deployment to Stackato or another "platform as a service" system: * http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/1909 * http://onionstand.blogspot.com/2011/04/catalyst-in-cloud.html I've not tried one of these myself, but I'm starting to hear good things. -- Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp sterling at hanenkamp.com 785.370.4454 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: