From peter at peknet.com Thu Jun 2 19:27:57 2011
From: peter at peknet.com (Peter Karman)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:27:57 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released
Message-ID: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com>
As some of you have heard me talk about Perl and search engines at Frozen Perl
and elsewhere, I wanted to let readers of these lists know that Apache Lucy
0.1.0 was released today:
http://s.apache.org/Qm0
Apache Lucy is the project formerly known as KinoSearch, now a podling in the
Apache Incubator. Apache Lucy is a search engine library loosely based on
Lucene. Version 0.1.0 has bindings for Perl.
It's available now on CPAN: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Lucy/
cheers,
pek
--
Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter at peknet.com
From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com Fri Jun 3 14:37:36 2011
From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:37:36 -0500
Subject: [Kc] [Omaha.pm]
In-Reply-To:
References: <8F4232DC-462F-4189-B663-EBC2C403F5CC@jays.net>
Message-ID:
On Jun 3, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Sterling Hanenkamp wrote:
> Btw, I'll be giving my telecommute talk at YAPC again this year, for anyone interested.
>
> http://www.yapc2011.us/yn2011/talk/3323
I've been fulltime telecommute since October 2010. Starting to get the hang of it. Looking forward to your talk. :)
So I'm solo from Omaha, and you're solo from KC?
http://www.yapc2011.us/yn2011/stats
-sigh- Well, at least we'll be solo together. :)
See you there,
Jay Hannah
Senior Developer / Consultant
http://www.iinteractive.com
Email: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com
AOL IM: deafferret
Mobile: 1.402.598.7782
Fax: 1.402.691.9496
From djgoku at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 21:45:09 2011
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 23:45:09 -0500
Subject: [Kc] June meeting
Message-ID: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com>
Anyone going to make it out this month?
Jonathan
From stephenclouse at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 12:05:13 2011
From: stephenclouse at gmail.com (Stephen Clouse)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:05:13 -0500
Subject: [Kc] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com>
References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote:
> Anyone going to make it out this month?
>
Planning on it...but you do realize the meeting's *next* week, right?
--
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From djgoku at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 12:19:15 2011
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:19:15 -0500
Subject: [Kc] June meeting
In-Reply-To:
References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <311CBF2E-B47D-49FB-8890-0DBDF12B183F@gmail.com>
Haha. Maybe I should check the calendar my sense of time has been off lately.
Jonathan
On Jun 7, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Stephen Clouse wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote:
> Anyone going to make it out this month?
>
> Planning on it...but you do realize the meeting's next week, right?
>
> --
> Stephen Clouse
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From sterling at hanenkamp.com Wed Jun 8 08:41:07 2011
From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:41:07 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released
In-Reply-To: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com>
References: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com>
Message-ID:
Thanks for sharing. I've got a couple projects I've been intending to sic
KinoSearch on. I'll check it out.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Peter Karman wrote:
> As some of you have heard me talk about Perl and search engines at Frozen
> Perl
> and elsewhere, I wanted to let readers of these lists know that Apache Lucy
> 0.1.0 was released today:
>
> http://s.apache.org/Qm0
>
> Apache Lucy is the project formerly known as KinoSearch, now a podling in
> the
> Apache Incubator. Apache Lucy is a search engine library loosely based on
> Lucene. Version 0.1.0 has bindings for Perl.
>
> It's available now on CPAN: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Lucy/
>
> cheers,
> pek
> --
> Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter at peknet.com
> _______________________________________________
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> kc at pm.org
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>
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From davidnicol at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 08:59:53 2011
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:59:53 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released
In-Reply-To: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com>
References: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com>
Message-ID:
Just for conversation's sake, anyone familiar enough with Lucy and with
SQLite FTSE to compare and contrast?
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Peter Karman wrote:
> As some of you have heard me talk about Perl and search engines at Frozen
> Perl
> and elsewhere, I wanted to let readers of these lists know that Apache Lucy
> 0.1.0 was released today:
>
> http://s.apache.org/Qm0
>
> Apache Lucy is the project formerly known as KinoSearch, now a podling in
> the
> Apache Incubator. Apache Lucy is a search engine library loosely based on
> Lucene. Version 0.1.0 has bindings for Perl.
>
> It's available now on CPAN: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Lucy/
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From amoore at mooresystems.com Wed Jun 8 09:45:39 2011
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:45:39 -0500
Subject: [Kc] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com>
References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
I'd love to go, but I won't be able to make it.
It looks like it's the 14th this month. Have fun!
-Andy
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote:
> Anyone going to make it out this month?
>
> Jonathan
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>
From peter at peknet.com Sat Jun 11 18:12:23 2011
From: peter at peknet.com (Peter Karman)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:12:23 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released
In-Reply-To:
References: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com>
Message-ID: <4DF41277.1010701@peknet.com>
David Nicol wrote on 6/8/11 10:59 AM:
> Just for conversation's sake, anyone familiar enough with Lucy and with SQLite
> FTSE to compare and contrast?
Good topic for conversation, David.
I've read over the SQLite full-text search docs[0] and off-the-cuff I'd say that
there are pros/cons to both approaches.
The architecture underlying both is basically the same: an inverted index of
tokenized terms.
Obviously if you want to provide search on top of an existing SQLite database,
using the built-in FTS features are very convenient. If your text is mostly
ASCII and you don't require custom tokenizing (or stemming beyond the supplied
Porter stemmer), then SQLite is probably going to serve you well for
small-to-medium projects.
If you need to scale your search application beyond a few gigs of data, or your
doc collection isn't already in a SQLite db, or you need i18n support (esp for
stemming in multiple languages), then you're probably going to need an IR
library like Lucy. First, it's a library, so you can customize your indexing and
searching code to fit your particular application. Second, it's in Perl (which
for this audience should be a win). Third, it provides very flexible tokenizing
and stemming options (Lucy ships with Snowball support). Lucy is in the same
camp as Lucene, Sphinx, Xapian, etc. It's for when you Get Serious about your
search application.
[0] http://www.sqlite.org/fts3.html
--
Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter at peknet.com
From ironicface at earthlink.net Sat Jun 11 18:40:30 2011
From: ironicface at earthlink.net (Me)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:40:30 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released
In-Reply-To: <4DF41277.1010701@peknet.com>
References: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com>
<4DF41277.1010701@peknet.com>
Message-ID: <4DF4190E.5040506@earthlink.net>
I have looked at Lucene before.
And it handles a lot of constructions of search morphology.
But, of course, it requires a grounding in java to use.
(I know there is solr, but you still need to maintain the software.)
It looks like Lucy is maybe not quite as massive as Lucene, but easier to
use in smaller productions (via apache instead of a servlet).
They mention a quicker startup time than Lucene.
Which seem to support this approach?
Is lucy easy to install?
(Which would make it nice for smaller projects.)
Thanks,
Teal
From peter at peknet.com Sat Jun 11 18:52:36 2011
From: peter at peknet.com (Peter Karman)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:52:36 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released
In-Reply-To: <4DF4190E.5040506@earthlink.net>
References: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com>
<4DF41277.1010701@peknet.com> <4DF4190E.5040506@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4DF41BE4.8080207@peknet.com>
Me wrote on 6/11/11 8:40 PM:
> I have looked at Lucene before.
> And it handles a lot of constructions of search morphology.
> But, of course, it requires a grounding in java to use.
> (I know there is solr, but you still need to maintain the software.)
>
right. /me nods
> It looks like Lucy is maybe not quite as massive as Lucene, but easier to
> use in smaller productions (via apache instead of a servlet).
> They mention a quicker startup time than Lucene.
> Which seem to support this approach?
Lucy relies heavily on mmap().
>
> Is lucy easy to install?
> (Which would make it nice for smaller projects.)
tias.
% cpan -i Lucy
--
Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter at peknet.com
From jason+kcpm at jlrush.com Tue Jun 14 13:59:10 2011
From: jason+kcpm at jlrush.com (Jason Rush)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:59:10 -0500
Subject: [Kc] June meeting
In-Reply-To:
References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote:
>> Anyone going to make it out this month?
>>
>> Jonathan
>> _______________________________________________
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andrew Moore wrote:
> I'd love to go, but I won't be able to make it.
>
> It looks like it's the 14th this month. Have fun!
>
> -Andy
>
>
My wife is out of town and left me a nice honey-do list. So, I'm not
going to be able to make it tonight.
Jason
From djgoku at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:04:01 2011
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:04:01 -0500
Subject: [Kc] June meeting
In-Reply-To:
References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Is anyone going to be there tonight?
Jonathan
On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Jason Rush wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote:
>>> Anyone going to make it out this month?
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>> _______________________________________________
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andrew Moore wrote:
>> I'd love to go, but I won't be able to make it.
>>
>> It looks like it's the 14th this month. Have fun!
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>>
>
> My wife is out of town and left me a nice honey-do list. So, I'm not
> going to be able to make it tonight.
>
> Jason
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
From paul.millard at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:06:02 2011
From: paul.millard at gmail.com (Paul Millard)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:06:02 -0500
Subject: [Kc] June meeting
In-Reply-To:
References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
I can't make it, got too much going on right now, getting a new roof and car
is having trouble running.
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote:
> Is anyone going to be there tonight?
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Jason Rush wrote:
>
> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka
> wrote:
> >>> Anyone going to make it out this month?
> >>>
> >>> Jonathan
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andrew Moore
> wrote:
> >> I'd love to go, but I won't be able to make it.
> >>
> >> It looks like it's the 14th this month. Have fun!
> >>
> >> -Andy
> >>
> >>
> >
> > My wife is out of town and left me a nice honey-do list. So, I'm not
> > going to be able to make it tonight.
> >
> > Jason
> > _______________________________________________
> > kc mailing list
> > kc at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
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From djgoku at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:09:04 2011
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:09:04 -0500
Subject: [Kc] June meeting
In-Reply-To:
References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9CC55C8D-C44B-4DE4-94D7-CC65F18F93A5@gmail.com>
I am going to call this meeting off then.
Jonathan
On Jun 14, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Paul Millard wrote:
> I can't make it, got too much going on right now, getting a new roof and car is having trouble running.
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote:
> Is anyone going to be there tonight?
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Jason Rush wrote:
>
> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote:
> >>> Anyone going to make it out this month?
> >>>
> >>> Jonathan
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andrew Moore wrote:
> >> I'd love to go, but I won't be able to make it.
> >>
> >> It looks like it's the 14th this month. Have fun!
> >>
> >> -Andy
> >>
> >>
> >
> > My wife is out of town and left me a nice honey-do list. So, I'm not
> > going to be able to make it tonight.
> >
> > Jason
> > _______________________________________________
> > kc mailing list
> > kc at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
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