From amoore at mooresystems.com  Wed Oct  7 18:02:53 2009
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:02:53 -0500
Subject: [Kc] October meeting
Message-ID: <6c70d2980910071802h5fc5c458nb3e816ba054f8462@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings KC Perl Mongers -

Our October meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, October 13th at 7pm at
Barley's in Shawnee.

As always we welcome new folks and repeat visitors, old folks and
young folks (Barley's is not just a bar, so they let in minors),
people who write perl at work, home or never, people interested in
learning perl, and even people who prefer Python, PHP, or just about
any other language. We typically set up shop in the back of the
restaurant with two or three high-tops pushed together. We chat for
about an hour or two about new things in the perl world and new things
in the local technology scene. We drink a few beers and eat a bit
along the way.

As far as topics for discussion go, we're always open for suggestions.
If you have something that you want to cover, feel free to mention it
now, or bring it up at the meeting. Personally, I notice that perl
5.11.0 is out, and so I'm thinking that it's time that my organization
move to 5.10. I'd love to get to use some of the features. How do you
guys decide when it's appropriate to move forward the version of perl
that you use on your project?

I'm looking forward to seeing lots of folks at the meeting. If you're
thinking of attending, feel free to let the group know in advance so I
know how many tables to try to push together. If you can't find us in
the restaurant, ask the hostess for "Mr. Pearl's table" or just wander
around the back of the bar looking lost and we'll spot you.

see you at 7 on Tuesday evening!

-Andy

From amoore at mooresystems.com  Wed Oct  7 18:15:14 2009
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:15:14 -0500
Subject: [Kc] companies using perl in Kansas City
Message-ID: <6c70d2980910071815g70cf588aw948b003d466d5d9e@mail.gmail.com>

Last month at the KC Perl Mongers meeting, we took a few minutes to
list some of the companies in KC that we know develop perl code in
some way. I had intended to send out this list earlier, but instead it
rode around in my pocket for a few weeks.

In no particular order:

- Codero (used to be aplus) might have some
- examinetics has a perl application that they're maintaining
- mulitservice writes some perl code and even occasionally hires folks
- UMB used to have a bunch of perl, and may still
- Indigo Interactive (related to Virtumundo) has a perl application or two
- Academy of Family Physicians uses it a bit
- Stowers institute probably does, and occasionally looks for an
engineer I think
- uclick (Andrews McMeel)
- ScriptPro sorta uses it for system administration stuff

Do you know anyone else in town that uses perl or writes software in
it? If so, feel free to speak up!

-Andy

From aachleon at gmail.com  Wed Oct  7 20:16:18 2009
From: aachleon at gmail.com (Aaron Leonard)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 22:16:18 -0500
Subject: [Kc] companies using perl in Kansas City
In-Reply-To: <6c70d2980910071815g70cf588aw948b003d466d5d9e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6c70d2980910071815g70cf588aw948b003d466d5d9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <34f494ce0910072016r45a25ef4g75e233a182c25a0f@mail.gmail.com>

SOURCECORP (in O.P.) currently, and has for years, uses it for custom ETL
operations.  Perl programming skills have been a requirement for those on
the data management team, however I understand that they are moving to
proprietary ETL tools to perform the same functions soon, so those hiring
requirements likely will change.


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Andrew Moore <amoore at mooresystems.com>wrote:

> Last month at the KC Perl Mongers meeting, we took a few minutes to
> list some of the companies in KC that we know develop perl code in
> some way. I had intended to send out this list earlier, but instead it
> rode around in my pocket for a few weeks.
>
> In no particular order:
>
> - Codero (used to be aplus) might have some
> - examinetics has a perl application that they're maintaining
> - mulitservice writes some perl code and even occasionally hires folks
> - UMB used to have a bunch of perl, and may still
> - Indigo Interactive (related to Virtumundo) has a perl application or two
> - Academy of Family Physicians uses it a bit
> - Stowers institute probably does, and occasionally looks for an
> engineer I think
> - uclick (Andrews McMeel)
> - ScriptPro sorta uses it for system administration stuff
>
> Do you know anyone else in town that uses perl or writes software in
> it? If so, feel free to speak up!
>
> -Andy
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
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From djgoku at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 10:10:31 2009
From: djgoku at gmail.com (djgoku)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:10:31 -0500
Subject: [Kc] KCPM Wave
Message-ID: <99dd19c90910201010w1fd3fd1dj3d3b9d3d5f55c9c1@mail.gmail.com>

I am not sure how many of you have access to gwave yet. If you do
search 'with:public kcpm' to find the wave.

Jonathan

From darylvf at gmail.com  Tue Oct 20 10:32:07 2009
From: darylvf at gmail.com (Daryl Fallin)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:32:07 -0500
Subject: [Kc] KCPM Wave
In-Reply-To: <99dd19c90910201010w1fd3fd1dj3d3b9d3d5f55c9c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <99dd19c90910201010w1fd3fd1dj3d3b9d3d5f55c9c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f7a846090910201032sc6e730ftb1379ea6bdb464e1@mail.gmail.com>

I don't have wave, but I would love an invite from anyone that has an invite
to give. :)

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:10 PM, djgoku <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am not sure how many of you have access to gwave yet. If you do
> search 'with:public kcpm' to find the wave.
>
> Jonathan
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From ivantis at ivantis.net  Tue Oct 20 10:33:38 2009
From: ivantis at ivantis.net (Ivan Greene)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:33:38 -0500
Subject: [Kc] KCPM Wave
In-Reply-To: <f7a846090910201032sc6e730ftb1379ea6bdb464e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <99dd19c90910201010w1fd3fd1dj3d3b9d3d5f55c9c1@mail.gmail.com>
	<f7a846090910201032sc6e730ftb1379ea6bdb464e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D61930AC-882A-4DAE-86C0-1BDAF5CF5BBF@ivantis.net>

Yeah me too. I wish they would open it to the public already.

--Ivan

On Oct 20, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Daryl Fallin wrote:

> I don't have wave, but I would love an invite from anyone that has  
> an invite to give. :)
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:10 PM, djgoku <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am not sure how many of you have access to gwave yet. If you do
> search 'with:public kcpm' to find the wave.
>
> Jonathan
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
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From mikedshelton at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 20 12:01:57 2009
From: mikedshelton at hotmail.com (mikedshelton at hotmail.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:01:57 -0700
Subject: [Kc] Vacation reply
In-Reply-To: <mailman.19.1256065242.2376.kc@pm.org>
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From ivantis at ivantis.net  Tue Oct 20 12:04:55 2009
From: ivantis at ivantis.net (Ivan Greene)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:04:55 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Vacation reply
In-Reply-To: <COL0-MC3-F45C1EE484820A402B7A086C6C00@phx.gbl>
References: <COL0-MC3-F45C1EE484820A402B7A086C6C00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C4669553-06E8-47E2-B9BA-DE4AFED9C322@ivantis.net>

Oh, from China? Fabulous! I'll have to check them out
Nice English by the way

--Ivan

On Oct 20, 2009, at 2:01 PM, <mikedshelton at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear friend:
> What are u doing these days?I am going to recommend a Eshop to  
> you.Yesterday I found a web of a large trading company from  
> China,which is an agent of all the well-known digital product  
> factories,and facing to both wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal  
> customer all over the world. They export all kinds of digital  
> products and offer really competitive and reasonable price and high  
> quality goods for their clients,so i think you will make a big  
> profit if you did business with them.And they promise they will  
> provide the best after-sales-service.If you are interested to do  
> business with them,in my opinion, you can make a trial order to test  
> that.
> Their Web address: www.purchase-online365.com
> Regards!
> _______________________________________________
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From cscheppers at kc.rr.com  Tue Oct 20 12:28:14 2009
From: cscheppers at kc.rr.com (C.J. Scheppers)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:28:14 -0500
Subject: [Kc] billboard on I-35 uses perl
In-Reply-To: <mailman.19.1256065242.2376.kc@pm.org>
References: <mailman.19.1256065242.2376.kc@pm.org>
Message-ID: <a06240821c703bf0fbccd@[192.168.1.100]>

Have you seen the billboard on I-35 south as you pass Mission Road? 
It uses the default variable:

"I'll quit when cigarettes are $_ a pack."

C.J.

From ivantis at ivantis.net  Tue Oct 20 12:37:55 2009
From: ivantis at ivantis.net (Ivan Greene)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:37:55 -0500
Subject: [Kc] billboard on I-35 uses perl
In-Reply-To: <a06240821c703bf0fbccd@[192.168.1.100]>
References: <mailman.19.1256065242.2376.kc@pm.org>
	<a06240821c703bf0fbccd@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <921E2967-450A-45A3-9E5F-EC6842F1D414@ivantis.net>

I suppose that person will quit when cigarettes are undefined per pack?

--Ivan

On Oct 20, 2009, at 2:28 PM, C.J. Scheppers wrote:

> Have you seen the billboard on I-35 south as you pass Mission Road?  
> It uses the default variable:
>
> "I'll quit when cigarettes are $_ a pack."
>
> C.J.
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>


From jay at jays.net  Tue Oct 20 16:12:28 2009
From: jay at jays.net (jay at jays.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:12:28 -0400
Subject: [Kc] billboard on I-35 uses perl
In-Reply-To: <921E2967-450A-45A3-9E5F-EC6842F1D414@ivantis.net>
References: <mailman.19.1256065242.2376.kc@pm.org>
	<a06240821c703bf0fbccd@[192.168.1.100]>
	<921E2967-450A-45A3-9E5F-EC6842F1D414@ivantis.net>
Message-ID: <26df3e043d1fc330e2e6574c6227c558@jays.net>

On Oct 20, 2009, at 2:28 PM, C.J. Scheppers wrote:
> Have you seen the billboard on I-35 south as you pass Mission Road?  
> It uses the default variable:
>
> "I'll quit when cigarettes are $_ a pack."

You must have added those double-quotes... The actual code must be
mistakenly single-quoted, so $_ isn't interpolated. You'd think they would
have caught that while escaping the ' in I'll.    :)

Can someone take a picture for us out-of-towners?

j
Omaha.pm




From jason+kcpm at jlrush.com  Wed Oct 21 08:58:07 2009
From: jason+kcpm at jlrush.com (Jason Rush)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:58:07 -0500
Subject: [Kc] billboard on I-35 uses perl
In-Reply-To: <26df3e043d1fc330e2e6574c6227c558@jays.net>
References: <mailman.19.1256065242.2376.kc@pm.org>
	<a06240821c703bf0fbccd@192.168.1.100>
	<921E2967-450A-45A3-9E5F-EC6842F1D414@ivantis.net>
	<26df3e043d1fc330e2e6574c6227c558@jays.net>
Message-ID: <c85046120910210858t4987b2bev1189f7314959648e@mail.gmail.com>

>> Have you seen the billboard on I-35 south as you pass Mission Road?
>> It uses the default variable:
>>
>> "I'll quit when cigarettes are $_ a pack."
>
> You must have added those double-quotes... The actual code must be
> mistakenly single-quoted, so $_ isn't interpolated. You'd think they would
> have caught that while escaping the ' in I'll. ? ?:)
>
> Can someone take a picture for us out-of-towners?
>
> j
> Omaha.pm
>
>

The developer could have used the q quoting which would allow for
double and single quotes inside the message.

print q( "I'll quit when cigarettes are $_ a pack." );

I wish I had checked my email earlier, I would have brought my camera.
 I wonder how long it will take to fix it if it hasn't been fixed
already.

From aachleon at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 09:22:48 2009
From: aachleon at gmail.com (Aaron Leonard)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:22:48 -0500
Subject: [Kc] billboard on I-35 uses perl
In-Reply-To: <c85046120910210858t4987b2bev1189f7314959648e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.19.1256065242.2376.kc@pm.org>
	<a06240821c703bf0fbccd@192.168.1.100>
	<921E2967-450A-45A3-9E5F-EC6842F1D414@ivantis.net>
	<26df3e043d1fc330e2e6574c6227c558@jays.net>
	<c85046120910210858t4987b2bev1189f7314959648e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <34f494ce0910210922p31bc25f2vf253c5c1be784214@mail.gmail.com>

LOL

He was joking...  The $_ in the message isn't supposed to be interpolated.
I think you all need to take a break from programming this weekend.  :)


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Jason Rush
<jason+kcpm at jlrush.com<jason%2Bkcpm at jlrush.com>
> wrote:

> >> Have you seen the billboard on I-35 south as you pass Mission Road?
> >> It uses the default variable:
> >>
> >> "I'll quit when cigarettes are $_ a pack."
> >
> > You must have added those double-quotes... The actual code must be
> > mistakenly single-quoted, so $_ isn't interpolated. You'd think they
> would
> > have caught that while escaping the ' in I'll.    :)
> >
> > Can someone take a picture for us out-of-towners?
> >
> > j
> > Omaha.pm
> >
> >
>
> The developer could have used the q quoting which would allow for
> double and single quotes inside the message.
>
> print q( "I'll quit when cigarettes are $_ a pack." );
>
> I wish I had checked my email earlier, I would have brought my camera.
>  I wonder how long it will take to fix it if it hasn't been fixed
> already.
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
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From jmreinke at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 12:43:36 2009
From: jmreinke at gmail.com (John Reinke)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:43:36 -0500
Subject: [Kc] billboard on I-35 uses perl
In-Reply-To: <34f494ce0910210922p31bc25f2vf253c5c1be784214@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.19.1256065242.2376.kc@pm.org>
	<a06240821c703bf0fbccd@192.168.1.100>
	<921E2967-450A-45A3-9E5F-EC6842F1D414@ivantis.net>
	<26df3e043d1fc330e2e6574c6227c558@jays.net>
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I just saw it while driving home last night. Had I known where it was, I
would have attempted to snap a picture with my phone.
And yes, Jason, you need to take a break from programming.  ;-)

It was a standard (non-electronic) billboard, trying to get people to figure
out at what price they'd consider giving up smoking.

I instantly saw the perl connection, however, although it actually looked
more like a '$__' variable.

John

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Aaron Leonard <aachleon at gmail.com> wrote:

> LOL
>
> He was joking...  The $_ in the message isn't supposed to be interpolated.
> I think you all need to take a break from programming this weekend.  :)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Jason Rush <jason+kcpm at jlrush.com<jason%2Bkcpm at jlrush.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> >> Have you seen the billboard on I-35 south as you pass Mission Road?
>> >> It uses the default variable:
>> >>
>> >> "I'll quit when cigarettes are $_ a pack."
>> >
>> > You must have added those double-quotes... The actual code must be
>> > mistakenly single-quoted, so $_ isn't interpolated. You'd think they
>> would
>> > have caught that while escaping the ' in I'll.    :)
>> >
>> > Can someone take a picture for us out-of-towners?
>> >
>> > j
>> > Omaha.pm
>> >
>> >
>>
>> The developer could have used the q quoting which would allow for
>> double and single quotes inside the message.
>>
>> print q( "I'll quit when cigarettes are $_ a pack." );
>>
>> I wish I had checked my email earlier, I would have brought my camera.
>>  I wonder how long it will take to fix it if it hasn't been fixed
>> already.
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>
>
>
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From jay at jays.net  Sat Oct 24 05:56:59 2009
From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:56:59 -0500
Subject: [Kc] billboard on I-35 uses perl
In-Reply-To: <7236b0a60910211243h54525beek375e4c8ee9ff44b5@mail.gmail.com>
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On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:43 PM, John Reinke wrote:
> I instantly saw the perl connection, however, although it actually  
> looked more like a '$__' variable.

Whoah! They're using Perl6?? Cool!

Once they fix that syntax error that'll be the best billboard ever!

j



From djgoku at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 12:10:25 2009
From: djgoku at gmail.com (djgoku)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:10:25 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Perl Around The Web
Message-ID: <99dd19c90910261210g14a19589vc3320f722a357c3a@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.theperlreport.com/

From alanvoss at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 14:12:18 2009
From: alanvoss at gmail.com (Alan Voss)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:12:18 -0500
Subject: [Kc] Perl Programmer II position
Message-ID: <2f4815220910261412k5cea031bjb5967e5a48c49e8c@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Fellow Perl Mongers,

The company in Overland Park for which I work has posted an opening
for a Perl Programmer II position.  I'm assuming that means quite a
bit more experience than entry level (3+ years).  If you are looking
for work or you'd like information, shoot me an email and/or your
resume.  I'll forward it on to the appropriate people.

Happy to help my local KC Perl Mongers.  Hope all is well with the group.

Alan