From davidnicol at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 22:17:06 2008 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 00:17:06 -0600 Subject: [Kc] very cool thing to do Message-ID: <934f64a20802082217j209b0319r959ca5e94aab7e3e@mail.gmail.com> When I was a latch-key kid back in the seventies, with a single parent, I participated as a Little -- it was fun. UMKC associate professor Tom Kane wrote: Hi all, As a Board Member for Big Bros Big Sisters in KC, I have to host a monthly informational lunch about the agency. Some of you have attended in the past and for that I am grateful. I really need to try to fill the room, it is NOT expected that each of you would volunteer to be a Big or give ANY money during this session, that is not what this lunch is about, I just want you to spread the word to others who may be interested in volunteering their time as a Big 4 hrs a week, so please forward this to anyone who may be interested, this is a low pressure high information 45 minute deal. Thanks for considering and helping spread the word! All the best, Tom Will you join me as my guest at a free, 45-minute, inspirational lunch and find out how you can help Big Brothers Big Sisters. *Big Brothers Big Sisters **Big Picture Lunch* * *Big Brothers Big Sisters 3908 Washington Street Kansas City, MO 64111 Friday, February 15th Noon-12:45 p.m. Please RSVP to Patrick at 816.777.28 70 or patrick @bbbskc.org . -- Anyone for four dimensional chess programming? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kc/attachments/20080209/ab298199/attachment.html From amoore at mooresystems.com Tue Feb 12 12:25:01 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:25:01 -0600 Subject: [Kc] February meeting In-Reply-To: <5d0ee2170801291925n36939d39r664581105fa63ea6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080130032143.GA21207@mooresystems.com> <5d0ee2170801291925n36939d39r664581105fa63ea6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080212202501.GA13355@mooresystems.com> On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:25:20PM -0600, Stephen Clouse wrote: > Barley's again? Can't complain about the turnout last time, and I like to > think the location was a big part of that. Sure. I've only had 2 people show interest this month, so I didn't reserve a table like last time. I'll just grab a high-top in the bar area. See you guys at Barley's on Midland at 7pm this evening! -Andy From stephenclouse at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 17:33:51 2008 From: stephenclouse at gmail.com (Stephen Clouse) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:33:51 -0600 Subject: [Kc] February meeting In-Reply-To: <20080212202501.GA13355@mooresystems.com> References: <20080130032143.GA21207@mooresystems.com> <5d0ee2170801291925n36939d39r664581105fa63ea6@mail.gmail.com> <20080212202501.GA13355@mooresystems.com> Message-ID: <5d0ee2170802121733w6e221c6br84dc08f96eebfd98@mail.gmail.com> Sitting at Barley's, don't see anyone. I was running a bit late but I figured someone would hang at least 20 minutes.... On 2/12/08, Andrew Moore wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:25:20PM -0600, Stephen Clouse wrote: > > Barley's again? Can't complain about the turnout last time, and I like to > > think the location was a big part of that. > > Sure. > > I've only had 2 people show interest this month, so I didn't reserve a > table like last time. I'll just grab a high-top in the bar area. > > See you guys at Barley's on Midland at 7pm this evening! > > -Andy > > > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -- Stephen Clouse From stephenclouse at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 17:50:35 2008 From: stephenclouse at gmail.com (Stephen Clouse) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:50:35 -0600 Subject: [Kc] February meeting In-Reply-To: <5d0ee2170802121733w6e221c6br84dc08f96eebfd98@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080130032143.GA21207@mooresystems.com> <5d0ee2170801291925n36939d39r664581105fa63ea6@mail.gmail.com> <20080212202501.GA13355@mooresystems.com> <5d0ee2170802121733w6e221c6br84dc08f96eebfd98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5d0ee2170802121750o1f6e9e46i736fed95df5cfaae@mail.gmail.com> All right...30 minutes. 0 people. exit(255); On 2/12/08, Stephen Clouse wrote: > Sitting at Barley's, don't see anyone. I was running a bit late but I > figured someone would hang at least 20 minutes.... > > On 2/12/08, Andrew Moore wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:25:20PM -0600, Stephen Clouse wrote: > > > Barley's again? Can't complain about the turnout last time, and I like > to > > > think the location was a big part of that. > > > > Sure. > > > > I've only had 2 people show interest this month, so I didn't reserve a > > table like last time. I'll just grab a high-top in the bar area. > > > > See you guys at Barley's on Midland at 7pm this evening! > > > > -Andy > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kc mailing list > > kc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > > > > > -- > Stephen Clouse > -- Stephen Clouse From amoore at mooresystems.com Wed Feb 13 06:33:22 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:33:22 -0600 Subject: [Kc] February meeting In-Reply-To: <5d0ee2170802121750o1f6e9e46i736fed95df5cfaae@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080130032143.GA21207@mooresystems.com> <5d0ee2170801291925n36939d39r664581105fa63ea6@mail.gmail.com> <20080212202501.GA13355@mooresystems.com> <5d0ee2170802121733w6e221c6br84dc08f96eebfd98@mail.gmail.com> <5d0ee2170802121750o1f6e9e46i736fed95df5cfaae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080213143322.GB18441@mooresystems.com> On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 07:50:35PM -0600, Stephen Clouse wrote: > All right...30 minutes. 0 people. Sorry we didn't see you, Stephen. We were at a table more toward the front. I walked around the bar area several times in the first half hour looking for people, knowing that you were probably coming. I'll reserve a table for next month so that I can guarantee that we'll be on the "bandstand" area again or something. Also, in the future, you can reach me at 816-829-0826. -Andy From amoore at mooresystems.com Mon Feb 25 08:29:41 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:29:41 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Kansas City Hack Day Message-ID: <20080225162941.GA31862@mooresystems.com> Hi KC Perl Mongers - I came across this blog post announcing a "Hack Day" on March 15 and thought you guys might be interested. It looks like local geek Kit Fenderson-Peters is attempting to bring together some of the local hackers. For more information, please see: http://kcdilettante.blogspot.com/search/label/KC%20hack%20day -Andy From popefelix at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 08:53:13 2008 From: popefelix at gmail.com (Kit Peters) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:53:13 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Brief intro Message-ID: I'm the guy what's putting on a Hack Day on 15 March (see http://tinyurl.com/2d73lp). :) I used to maintain UPS::Nut, but they changed the API for NUT, and I never got 'round to changing UPS::Nut accordingly. :) I am also the volunteer sysadmin for Scribblit, a LiveJournal clone running on Apache/mod_perl. Like I said, brief. :) -- GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 From emmanuel.mejias at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 08:56:27 2008 From: emmanuel.mejias at gmail.com (Emmanuel Mejias) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:56:27 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Brief intro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38feac7e0802250856r103774f6s50b609dbc0d9aae0@mail.gmail.com> So can anyone attend? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kc/attachments/20080225/3a0ecddb/attachment.html From amoore at mooresystems.com Mon Feb 25 09:04:09 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:04:09 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Brief intro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080225170409.GA32119@mooresystems.com> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:53:13AM -0600, Kit Peters wrote: > I'm the guy what's putting on a Hack Day on 15 March (see > http://tinyurl.com/2d73lp). :) Hi Kit - welcome! Please keep us posted on the Hack Day. It sounds like there's some interest from some of the members here. Good idea! -Andy From djgoku at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 08:55:10 2008 From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:55:10 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Kansas City Hack Day In-Reply-To: <20080225162941.GA31862@mooresystems.com> References: <20080225162941.GA31862@mooresystems.com> Message-ID: <2F6D6B85-A130-4C5B-9946-6940F81BEA38@gmail.com> On Feb 25, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Andrew Moore wrote: > > Hi KC Perl Mongers - > > I came across this blog post announcing a "Hack Day" on March 15 and > thought you guys might be interested. It looks like local geek Kit > Fenderson-Peters is attempting to bring together some of the local > hackers. > > For more information, please see: > > http://kcdilettante.blogspot.com/search/label/KC%20hack%20day Sounds very interesting. That is awesome that the coffee shop is open late! I wonder if he means 10am or 10pm, am thinking 10am or 10:00 in military time. Anyone plan on attending? Jonathan From djgoku at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 17:35:28 2008 From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:35:28 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Brief intro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31BB7C99-CAB4-43D7-A0E0-89BC3EB5FF59@gmail.com> On Feb 25, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Kit Peters wrote: > I'm the guy what's putting on a Hack Day on 15 March (see > http://tinyurl.com/2d73lp). :) > > I used to maintain UPS::Nut, but they changed the API for NUT, and I > never got 'round to changing UPS::Nut accordingly. :) I am also the > volunteer sysadmin for Scribblit, a LiveJournal clone running on > Apache/mod_perl. > > Like I said, brief. :) I scoped out the place and got a mocha (not bad : ]), the place seems very small for a Hack Day. Don't forget March 15, 2008 is also St. Patrick's Day. I might try to swing by, is there anything particular we will be hacking on? Jonathan From jay at jays.net Wed Feb 27 10:04:13 2008 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:04:13 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Kansas City Hack Day In-Reply-To: <2F6D6B85-A130-4C5B-9946-6940F81BEA38@gmail.com> References: <20080225162941.GA31862@mooresystems.com> <2F6D6B85-A130-4C5B-9946-6940F81BEA38@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Feb 25, 2008, at 10:55 AM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote: >> http://kcdilettante.blogspot.com/search/label/KC%20hack%20day > > Sounds very interesting. That is awesome that the coffee shop is open > late! I wonder if he means 10am or 10pm, am thinking 10am or 10:00 in > military time. Anyone plan on attending? My folks live in KC, so I was thinking about driving down. My current development tracks are Catalyst (Perl web framework) and BioPerl / bioinformatics / R. I've got a million projects going all the time... j Omaha, NE http://clab.ist.unomaha.edu/CLAB/index.php/User:Jhannah From amoore at mooresystems.com Thu Feb 28 14:10:16 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:10:16 -0600 Subject: [Kc] March meeting Message-ID: <20080228221016.GA1691@mooresystems.com> Hey KC Mongers - The March meeting is less than 2 weeks away. It's on Tuesday, March 11 at 7pm. I just called Barley's in Lenexa and set up a table for us on the "Bandstand" are at 7pm. I told them 6 people, but I guess we might go over that. If you don't come very often and are thinking of coming this time, please let me know. If there are many of us, I'll get a bigger table. Last month, while discussing potential topics for this month. someone mentioned using POE. (Now I can't recall who mentioned it. Randall, maybe?) Anyway, let's declare this month "Month of the POE". If you've used POE for something, be prepared to tell us a little about it. If you've wanted to use POE for something, be prepared to ask about it. http://poe.perl.org/ I always thought that POE was just good for IRC bots, but I've been informed that it can do more. As always, other perl related topics are welcome and encouraged, as well as other computer or beer related topics. See you guys on Tuesday, March 11 at Barley's in Lenexa on Midland. -Andy From amoore at mooresystems.com Thu Feb 28 14:36:46 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:36:46 -0600 Subject: [Kc] March meeting In-Reply-To: <20080228221016.GA1691@mooresystems.com> References: <20080228221016.GA1691@mooresystems.com> Message-ID: <20080228223646.GB1923@mooresystems.com> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:10:16PM -0600, Andrew Moore wrote: > at 7pm. I just called Barley's in Lenexa and set up a table for us on How embarassing. The name of that suburb is "Shawnee", not "Lenexa". Anyway, it's the one at Midland and 435, the same place as January and February. -Andy From randall.munden at gmail.com Fri Feb 29 11:20:39 2008 From: randall.munden at gmail.com (Randall Munden) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:20:39 -0600 Subject: [Kc] March meeting In-Reply-To: <20080228221016.GA1691@mooresystems.com> References: <20080228221016.GA1691@mooresystems.com> Message-ID: <1467780a0802291120l17ec7848m3607baf819acf230@mail.gmail.com> Yep, I said it but it doesn't have to be POE -- the last IRC bot I wrote was pre-POE. Ask yourself what you are amazing at, or good at, or even suck at that you might have some insight you could to transfer to others. Package it into a 15 minute outline -- let's face it we're perl mongers and keeping our attention for more than 15 minutes is going to be similar to herding cats -- and figure out how to tell (or better yet show) the rest of us. You've got the neatest vi[m] (sorry we don't want to hear about how cool emacs is) hack ever and it won't take you 15 mikes to show off? Fine. Tell us. I've found some of the most useful info I've ever picked up were small bits and pieces that others use everyday and I had never encountered or was too lazy to dig into. Also note the implication that it doesn't have to be perl related either. Perl mongers are all over the place when it comes to mongering -- it's part of the personality type. Don't have anything to show off? Got a problem with some code at work? Have you ever seen the race that starts when you ask a group of mongers to solve a code problem? It doesn't even have to be perl. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Andrew Moore wrote: > > Hey KC Mongers - > > The March meeting is less than 2 weeks away. It's on Tuesday, March 11 > at 7pm. I just called Barley's in Lenexa and set up a table for us on > the "Bandstand" are at 7pm. I told them 6 people, but I guess we might > go over that. If you don't come very often and are thinking of coming > this time, please let me know. If there are many of us, I'll get a > bigger table. > > Last month, while discussing potential topics for this month. someone > mentioned using POE. (Now I can't recall who mentioned it. Randall, > maybe?) Anyway, let's declare this month "Month of the POE". If you've > used POE for something, be prepared to tell us a little about it. If > you've wanted to use POE for something, be prepared to ask about it. > > http://poe.perl.org/ > > I always thought that POE was just good for IRC bots, but I've been > informed that it can do more. > > As always, other perl related topics are welcome and encouraged, as > well as other computer or beer related topics. > > See you guys on Tuesday, March 11 at Barley's in Lenexa on Midland. > > -Andy > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -- -- Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. http://www.librarything.com/profile/blather From sterling at hanenkamp.com Fri Feb 29 14:23:04 2008 From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Andrew Hanenkamp) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:23:04 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Developing RESTful Web Services in Perl Message-ID: This is a couple weeks old and I'm just getting around to posting this to the group. I've written an article for ONLamp on REST web interfaces, if you're interested. This first article covers servers and another article (which I need to start on) will cover clients. http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2008/02/19/developing-restful-web-services-in-perl.html Cheers, Andrew -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kc/attachments/20080229/96ac14e1/attachment.html From amoore at mooresystems.com Fri Feb 29 14:44:23 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:44:23 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Introducing The Perl College In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080229224423.GB14303@mooresystems.com> Hi KCers - Uri Guttman sent over this interesting email about the Perl College. I had never heard of perlhunter.com for some reason. If you're looking for a job writing perl, you may find this helpful. -Andy On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 04:29:44PM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote: > > hi all pm leaders, > > please forward to your local pm lists if you deem it appropriate. > > thanx, > > uri > > > What is the Perl College? > > The Perl College is a creative merger of job training and job > fairs. Here are its primary goals: > > * Provide free top quality training to qualified > junior level Perl developers > * Improve their Perl skills to the intermediate level > * Match the new graduates with Perl jobs in the hiring companies > * http://perlhunter.com/college.html > > The Perl College was created to address these issues in > recruiting Perl coders: > > * A shortage of intermediate level Perl developers > * A surplus of junior level Perl developers > * Some are not developing Perl full time > * Many are looking for a career developing Perl but can't get > needed training and experience > * Companies lacking the resources to train Perl developers > > We are currently seeking both sponsors and students for this > unique education/recruitment opportunity. > > Hiring Sponsors: Thirty great applicants - cheap! > > Imagine how much it would cost in both time and money to find > and train a qualified applicant for your Perl jobs. The Perl > College dramatically improves the efficiency of this process by > pre-screening and accepting only the most motivated > students. Then we take it one step further. We take those > already highly motivated students and train them up to a solid > intermediate level of Perl skills. Efficiency, cost > effectiveness and quality results - what could be better for > your Perl recruitment needs? > > Student Candidates: Put yourself ahead of the competition. > > If selected you will have a week of free training from Damian > Conway (valued at $3000). Plus you will exposed to employers who > are actively seeking intermediate level Perl developers. > Competition to get in will be fierce so put your best foot > forward. Don't wait to apply as we will take only the thirty > most qualified students. > > For more information on The Perl College, and how to apply to be a > sponsor or a student go to these pages: > > http://perlhunter.com/college.html > http://perlhunter.com/sponsors.html > http://perlhunter.com/students.html > > Thanks, > > Uri Guttman, Dean of The Perl College > > -- > Uri Guttman ------ uri at stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- > ----- Perl Architecture, Development, Training, Support, Code Review ------ > ----------- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ----- http://jobs.perl.org --------- > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- > -- > Request pm.org Technical Support via support at pm.org > > pm_groups mailing list > pm_groups at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups