From amoore at mooresystems.com Mon Dec 1 06:28:36 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:28:36 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Would we (KCPM) ever use the Cowtown computer congress space? In-Reply-To: <934f64a20811281554o47847542jdf28b21b35330c0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <934f64a20811281554o47847542jdf28b21b35330c0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c70d2980812010628g5ecdf816iaf81488597e64321@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:54 PM, David Nicol wrote: > Apparently, getting listed as an "affiliate" on their promotional > materials requires a commitment that we will do something in their > space when it is available. > > So, what would KCPM do with or in a geek-space? Store all our > O'Reilly books to review in a shelf? Hi David - I could see using their meeting space, especially if we wanted to have a hackathon or a demo or something. Is that what you had in mind? You're as qualified as the rest of us to represent kcpm, so feel free to commit to something if you're interested in organizing an activity there. I hung around in #ccckc for a while to try to figure out what they're up to, but I haven't recently. I'll be interested to see their space when they get something going! -Andy From amoore at mooresystems.com Wed Dec 3 07:28:56 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:28:56 -0600 Subject: [Kc] December meeting Message-ID: <6c70d2980812030728o19a12f25vcbf6c9fb93733c61@mail.gmail.com> Hi KC Mongers - I received an email this morning that reminded me that the 2nd Tuesday in December is next week on the 9th. I'd love to get together for a meeting if anyone is interested. I'm starting to play around with Devel::NYTProf at work and would love to bend someone's ear about it if anyone locally has used it before. So, if you can make it out to Barley's in Shawnee on the 9th at 7, speak up. If we get a few "yes"s, then we'll get together. Thanks! -Andy From djgoku at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 09:24:56 2008 From: djgoku at gmail.com (djgoku) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:24:56 -0600 Subject: [Kc] December meeting In-Reply-To: <6c70d2980812030728o19a12f25vcbf6c9fb93733c61@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c70d2980812030728o19a12f25vcbf6c9fb93733c61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <99dd19c90812030924i5accea8ek16548b84e3933d7f@mail.gmail.com> On 12/3/08, Andrew Moore wrote: > Hi KC Mongers - > > I received an email this morning that reminded me that the 2nd Tuesday > in December is next week on the 9th. I'd love to get together for a > meeting if anyone is interested. > > I'm starting to play around with Devel::NYTProf at work and would love > to bend someone's ear about it if anyone locally has used it before. > > So, if you can make it out to Barley's in Shawnee on the 9th at 7, > speak up. If we get a few "yes"s, then we'll get together. I wish I could, but next week is finals week. Jonathan From davidnicol at gmail.com Fri Dec 5 11:44:08 2008 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:44:08 -0600 Subject: [Kc] python 3 like perl 6 Message-ID: <934f64a20812051144i11f0d68codbf71f8ff2e8f66f@mail.gmail.com> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10113479-92.html -- "Refusing to move when ordered, he was tragically mulched." -- The Onion From amoore at mooresystems.com Mon Dec 8 09:40:17 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:40:17 -0600 Subject: [Kc] December meeting In-Reply-To: <6c70d2980812030728o19a12f25vcbf6c9fb93733c61@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c70d2980812030728o19a12f25vcbf6c9fb93733c61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c70d2980812080940g44b7e92bl63a6807a9613f927@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Andrew Moore wrote: > Hi KC Mongers - > > I received an email this morning that reminded me that the 2nd Tuesday > in December is next week on the 9th. I'd love to get together for a > meeting if anyone is interested. Since I've received no positive RSVPs and we have cancelled the December meeting in many years past. I guess we ought to cancel this month's meeting, too. There will be no December meeting. See you guys on January 13, 2009! -Andy From djgoku at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 10:12:23 2008 From: djgoku at gmail.com (djgoku) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:12:23 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Higher-Order Perl Higher-Order Perl by Mark Jason Dominus - Free Download Message-ID: <99dd19c90812101012x654c4477p2af0aacb15d80105@mail.gmail.com> Seen this on /. http://hop.perl.plover.com/book/ From andy at petdance.com Wed Dec 10 10:13:38 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:13:38 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Higher-Order Perl Higher-Order Perl by Mark Jason Dominus - Free Download In-Reply-To: <99dd19c90812101012x654c4477p2af0aacb15d80105@mail.gmail.com> References: <99dd19c90812101012x654c4477p2af0aacb15d80105@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Dec 10, 2008, at 12:12 PM, djgoku wrote: > Seen this on /. > > http://hop.perl.plover.com/book/ Perlbuzz had it first :-) http://perlbuzz.com/2008/12/higher-order-perl-available-for-free-download.html xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From amoore at mooresystems.com Wed Dec 10 12:10:33 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:10:33 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Perl programmer position in Liberty Message-ID: <6c70d2980812101210w150aa885gcb61dced9af559df@mail.gmail.com> Here's a help wanted ad for a perl developer for web-based applications in Liberty http://kansascity.craigslist.org/web/952482495.html -Andy From emmanuel.mejias at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 07:13:45 2008 From: emmanuel.mejias at gmail.com (Emmanuel Mejias) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:13:45 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Solaris Error Message-ID: <38feac7e0812240713j2906ef3bx8ab23bdf41665339@mail.gmail.com> Hey mongers, I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to post, but I just wanted to see if any has seen this error before when trying to run a script (with a module) on Solaris 10. solaris-ufs....An error occured. statvfs failed. Did you run h2ph? I'm not able to find any useful info to correct this and it's annoying. Should I maybe hit up Solaris forums instead of Perl? Thanks, em -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randall.munden at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 07:31:47 2008 From: randall.munden at gmail.com (Randall Munden) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:31:47 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Solaris Error In-Reply-To: <38feac7e0812240713j2906ef3bx8ab23bdf41665339@mail.gmail.com> References: <38feac7e0812240713j2906ef3bx8ab23bdf41665339@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1467780a0812240731o627a9952x8468e0f6ef376a33@mail.gmail.com> It would be very helpful if we knew what your script is trying to do. Are you using the the perl and modules that installed from the solaris package or is this a home rolled perl? On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Emmanuel Mejias wrote: > Hey mongers, I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to post, but I > just wanted to see if any has seen this error before when trying to run a > script (with a module) on Solaris 10. > > solaris-ufs....An error occured. statvfs failed. Did you run h2ph? > I'm not able to find any useful info to correct this and it's annoying. > Should I maybe hit up Solaris forums instead of Perl? > > Thanks, > em > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -- -- Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do. http://www.librarything.com/profile/blather http://blather.smugmug.com/ From emmanuel.mejias at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 08:12:41 2008 From: emmanuel.mejias at gmail.com (Emmanuel Mejias) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:12:41 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Solaris Error In-Reply-To: <1467780a0812240731o627a9952x8468e0f6ef376a33@mail.gmail.com> References: <38feac7e0812240713j2906ef3bx8ab23bdf41665339@mail.gmail.com> <1467780a0812240731o627a9952x8468e0f6ef376a33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <38feac7e0812240812uf6a06dbpb474bc2750a02754@mail.gmail.com> oh yeah, duh! sorry bout that. i got that error when i ran make test during the installing of the Filesys::DiskSpace module. #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; *use Filesys::DiskSpace;* my $space_limit = 5; #If less than 5%, scream if ($#ARGV ==1) { print "Usage is $0 [....]\n"; exit (8); } # Loop through each directory in the list. foreach my $dir (@ARGV) { # Get the file system info my ($fs_type, $fs_desc, $used, $avail, $fused, $favail) = df $dir; # The amount of free space my $per_free = (($avail) / ($avail+$used)) * 100.0; if ($per_free < $space_limit) { # Tailor this command to meet your needs my $msg = sprintf( "WARNING: FREE SPACE on $dir ". "has dropped to %0.2f%%", $per_free); system("wall '$msg'"); } } On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Randall Munden wrote: > It would be very helpful if we knew what your script is trying to do. > Are you using the the perl and modules that installed from the solaris > package or is this a home rolled perl? > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Emmanuel Mejias > wrote: > > Hey mongers, I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to post, but I > > just wanted to see if any has seen this error before when trying to run a > > script (with a module) on Solaris 10. > > > > solaris-ufs....An error occured. statvfs failed. Did you run h2ph? > > I'm not able to find any useful info to correct this and it's annoying. > > Should I maybe hit up Solaris forums instead of Perl? > > > > Thanks, > > em > > _______________________________________________ > > kc mailing list > > kc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > > > > > > -- > -- Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must > do. > > http://www.librarything.com/profile/blather > http://blather.smugmug.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amoore at mooresystems.com Wed Dec 24 08:22:07 2008 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:22:07 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Solaris Error In-Reply-To: <38feac7e0812240812uf6a06dbpb474bc2750a02754@mail.gmail.com> References: <38feac7e0812240713j2906ef3bx8ab23bdf41665339@mail.gmail.com> <1467780a0812240731o627a9952x8468e0f6ef376a33@mail.gmail.com> <38feac7e0812240812uf6a06dbpb474bc2750a02754@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c70d2980812240822q1a03136fi53f36496d20e0685@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Emmanuel Mejias wrote: > oh yeah, duh! sorry bout that. i got that error when i ran make test during > the installing of the Filesys::DiskSpace module. That appears to be a common problem: http://www.cpantesters.org/show/Filesys-DiskSpace.html#Filesys-DiskSpace-0.05 I recommend contacting the module author. -Andy From emmanuel.mejias at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 08:23:19 2008 From: emmanuel.mejias at gmail.com (Emmanuel Mejias) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:23:19 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Solaris Error In-Reply-To: <6c70d2980812240822q1a03136fi53f36496d20e0685@mail.gmail.com> References: <38feac7e0812240713j2906ef3bx8ab23bdf41665339@mail.gmail.com> <1467780a0812240731o627a9952x8468e0f6ef376a33@mail.gmail.com> <38feac7e0812240812uf6a06dbpb474bc2750a02754@mail.gmail.com> <6c70d2980812240822q1a03136fi53f36496d20e0685@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <38feac7e0812240823r1ab78f73qae3aba5c3267f34d@mail.gmail.com> thnx andy! On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Andrew Moore wrote: > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Emmanuel Mejias > wrote: > > oh yeah, duh! sorry bout that. i got that error when i ran make test > during > > the installing of the Filesys::DiskSpace module. > > That appears to be a common problem: > > > http://www.cpantesters.org/show/Filesys-DiskSpace.html#Filesys-DiskSpace-0.05 > > I recommend contacting the module author. > > -Andy > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randall.munden at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 08:26:43 2008 From: randall.munden at gmail.com (Randall Munden) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:26:43 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Solaris Error In-Reply-To: <38feac7e0812240823r1ab78f73qae3aba5c3267f34d@mail.gmail.com> References: <38feac7e0812240713j2906ef3bx8ab23bdf41665339@mail.gmail.com> <1467780a0812240731o627a9952x8468e0f6ef376a33@mail.gmail.com> <38feac7e0812240812uf6a06dbpb474bc2750a02754@mail.gmail.com> <6c70d2980812240822q1a03136fi53f36496d20e0685@mail.gmail.com> <38feac7e0812240823r1ab78f73qae3aba5c3267f34d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1467780a0812240826s5fbac947xb6044c114f987e8@mail.gmail.com> That module is ancient (tested on solaris4 and 5). I'd suggest looking elsewhere, maybe Filesys::Df or Filesys::DfPortable. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Emmanuel Mejias wrote: > thnx andy! > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Andrew Moore > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Emmanuel Mejias >> wrote: >> > oh yeah, duh! sorry bout that. i got that error when i ran make test >> > during >> > the installing of the Filesys::DiskSpace module. >> >> That appears to be a common problem: >> >> >> http://www.cpantesters.org/show/Filesys-DiskSpace.html#Filesys-DiskSpace-0.05 >> >> I recommend contacting the module author. >> >> -Andy > > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -- -- Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do. http://www.librarything.com/profile/blather http://blather.smugmug.com/ From randall.munden at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 08:30:14 2008 From: randall.munden at gmail.com (Randall Munden) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:30:14 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Solaris Error In-Reply-To: <1467780a0812240826s5fbac947xb6044c114f987e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <38feac7e0812240713j2906ef3bx8ab23bdf41665339@mail.gmail.com> <1467780a0812240731o627a9952x8468e0f6ef376a33@mail.gmail.com> <38feac7e0812240812uf6a06dbpb474bc2750a02754@mail.gmail.com> <6c70d2980812240822q1a03136fi53f36496d20e0685@mail.gmail.com> <38feac7e0812240823r1ab78f73qae3aba5c3267f34d@mail.gmail.com> <1467780a0812240826s5fbac947xb6044c114f987e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1467780a0812240830s4a870bcbp5f97246f8e6289f@mail.gmail.com> Or even better -- what a good perl programmer would do is take the output of df -k [directory] passed via system and hack his/her own solution. On a standard solaris 10 install it looks something like this: shoggoth:~$ df -k /usr Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s3 15128399 4273195 10703921 29% /usr On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Randall Munden wrote: > That module is ancient (tested on solaris4 and 5). I'd suggest > looking elsewhere, maybe Filesys::Df or Filesys::DfPortable. > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Emmanuel Mejias > wrote: >> thnx andy! >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Andrew Moore >> wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Emmanuel Mejias >>> wrote: >>> > oh yeah, duh! sorry bout that. i got that error when i ran make test >>> > during >>> > the installing of the Filesys::DiskSpace module. >>> >>> That appears to be a common problem: >>> >>> >>> http://www.cpantesters.org/show/Filesys-DiskSpace.html#Filesys-DiskSpace-0.05 >>> >>> I recommend contacting the module author. >>> >>> -Andy >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kc mailing list >> kc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc >> > > > > -- > -- Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do. > > http://www.librarything.com/profile/blather > http://blather.smugmug.com/ > -- -- Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do. http://www.librarything.com/profile/blather http://blather.smugmug.com/ From emmanuel.mejias at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 08:36:45 2008 From: emmanuel.mejias at gmail.com (Emmanuel Mejias) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:36:45 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Solaris Error In-Reply-To: <1467780a0812240830s4a870bcbp5f97246f8e6289f@mail.gmail.com> References: <38feac7e0812240713j2906ef3bx8ab23bdf41665339@mail.gmail.com> <1467780a0812240731o627a9952x8468e0f6ef376a33@mail.gmail.com> <38feac7e0812240812uf6a06dbpb474bc2750a02754@mail.gmail.com> <6c70d2980812240822q1a03136fi53f36496d20e0685@mail.gmail.com> <38feac7e0812240823r1ab78f73qae3aba5c3267f34d@mail.gmail.com> <1467780a0812240826s5fbac947xb6044c114f987e8@mail.gmail.com> <1467780a0812240830s4a870bcbp5f97246f8e6289f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <38feac7e0812240836m4b2a3990oaffc05b7733f1aa1@mail.gmail.com> or -h. emejias$ Filesystem size used avail capacity Mounted on zones 3.9G 693M 3.2G 18% /zones true. a good perl programmer would, but i'm not at that level, yet. i'm like pre-beginner. i'm still trying to learn this language. what i was attempting to do was take that script and see what i could learn from it to create my own, using just df -h. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Randall Munden wrote: > Or even better -- what a good perl programmer would do is take the > output of df -k [directory] passed via system and hack his/her own > solution. On a standard solaris 10 install it looks something like > this: > > shoggoth:~$ df -k /usr > Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on > /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s3 15128399 4273195 10703921 29% /usr > > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Randall Munden > wrote: > > That module is ancient (tested on solaris4 and 5). I'd suggest > > looking elsewhere, maybe Filesys::Df or Filesys::DfPortable. > > > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Emmanuel Mejias > > wrote: > >> thnx andy! > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Andrew Moore > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Emmanuel Mejias > >>> wrote: > >>> > oh yeah, duh! sorry bout that. i got that error when i ran make test > >>> > during > >>> > the installing of the Filesys::DiskSpace module. > >>> > >>> That appears to be a common problem: > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.cpantesters.org/show/Filesys-DiskSpace.html#Filesys-DiskSpace-0.05 > >>> > >>> I recommend contacting the module author. > >>> > >>> -Andy > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kc mailing list > >> kc at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > -- Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must > do. > > > > http://www.librarything.com/profile/blather > > http://blather.smugmug.com/ > > > > > > -- > -- Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must > do. > > http://www.librarything.com/profile/blather > http://blather.smugmug.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randall.munden at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 09:13:50 2008 From: randall.munden at gmail.com (Randall Munden) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 11:13:50 -0600 Subject: [Kc] How Not to Get Hired Message-ID: <1467780a0812240913m458d723cte72f2b400126f0cd@mail.gmail.com> I don't know if anyone on the list has caught this yet -- I know AndyL. has -- it's a good read. Be sure to read the comments too. http://avatraxiom.livejournal.com/95669.html --rjm-- -- Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do. http://www.librarything.com/profile/blather http://blather.smugmug.com/ From davidnicol at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 16:12:12 2008 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:12:12 -0600 Subject: [Kc] Lots of unsubscribe notifications Message-ID: <934f64a20812291612o23091bbeg52cf6c33eb9073b0@mail.gmail.com> I just got lots of unsubscribe notifications, e-mail addresses that are bad for various reasons, such as being deceased ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:00 AM Subject: kc unsubscribe notification To: kc-owner at pm.org vpruitt at hotmail.com has been removed from kc. -- "Time is nothing to a cat when he is dancing" -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1590170474/tipjartransactioA From cscheppers at kc.rr.com Tue Dec 30 12:41:27 2008 From: cscheppers at kc.rr.com (C.J. Scheppers) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:41:27 -0600 Subject: [Kc] unsubscribers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I just got lots of unsubscribe notifications, e-mail addresses that >are bad for various reasons, such as being deceased a. I haven't unsubscribed b. News of my demise has been greatly exaggerated (Mark Twain). c. I'm not dead yet, in fact I'm feeling pretty good today (Monte Python's In Search of the Holy Grail). C.J. From jimsissel at yahoo.com Tue Dec 30 13:18:10 2008 From: jimsissel at yahoo.com (James Sissel) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:18:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Kc] unsubscribers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <873742.48540.qm@web30007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ding - Ding ? Bring out your dead! ? Monte Python ? ;) --- On Tue, 12/30/08, C.J. Scheppers wrote: From: C.J. Scheppers Subject: Re: [Kc] unsubscribers To: kc at pm.org Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 2:41 PM >I just got lots of unsubscribe notifications, e-mail addresses that >are bad for various reasons, such as being deceased a. I haven't unsubscribed b. News of my demise has been greatly exaggerated (Mark Twain). c. I'm not dead yet, in fact I'm feeling pretty good today (Monte Python's In Search of the Holy Grail). C.J. _______________________________________________ kc mailing list kc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: