From crash3m at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 13:50:02 2005 From: crash3m at gmail.com (crash3m) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:50:02 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meetings Message-ID: the list looked to be kind of slow, wondering if the meetings are the same way. If theres a couple people interested in meeting tonight (as it is the 2nd tuesday) I'd be happy to go. Matt -- Got gmail? I do hahaha -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kc/attachments/20051011/c9127b26/attachment.html From amoore at mooresystems.com Tue Oct 11 16:18:55 2005 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:18:55 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20051011231855.GA21897@mooresystems.com> On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 03:50:02PM -0500, crash3m wrote: > the list looked to be kind of slow, wondering if the meetings are the same > way. If theres a couple people interested in meeting tonight (as it is the > 2nd tuesday) I'd be happy to go. Matt - I haven't heard much about a meeting in several months, so I don't think you can get one together with this little notice. There may be a few that are interested in a November meeting now that they have plenty of notice, especially if you mention an interesting discussion topic or two. I'm not sure why everyone else slowed down, but I've had Tuesday evening classes for about a year. I could probably make it next month, though. -Andy From dgreer at kc.rr.com Tue Oct 11 16:42:50 2005 From: dgreer at kc.rr.com (Doug Greer) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:42:50 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meetings In-Reply-To: <20051011231855.GA21897@mooresystems.com> References: <20051011231855.GA21897@mooresystems.com> Message-ID: <434C4DFA.2070902@kc.rr.com> I've never been to a meeting, but I'll plan for Tuesday, November 8th. Topics I'm interested in: Inside-out classes from Perl Best Practices SVK module CGI::Builder I'm open to any topic. Regards, Doug Greer Andrew Moore wrote: >On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 03:50:02PM -0500, crash3m wrote: > > >>the list looked to be kind of slow, wondering if the meetings are the same >>way. If theres a couple people interested in meeting tonight (as it is the >>2nd tuesday) I'd be happy to go. >> >> > >Matt - I haven't heard much about a meeting in several months, so I >don't think you can get one together with this little notice. There may >be a few that are interested in a November meeting now that they have >plenty of notice, especially if you mention an interesting discussion >topic or two. > >I'm not sure why everyone else slowed down, but I've had Tuesday evening >classes for about a year. I could probably make it next month, though. > >-Andy > > > >_______________________________________________ >kc mailing list >kc at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > > > > -- "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." -- Phillip K Dick From stephenclouse at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 17:52:32 2005 From: stephenclouse at gmail.com (Stephen Clouse) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:52:32 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meetings In-Reply-To: <20051011231855.GA21897@mooresystems.com> References: <20051011231855.GA21897@mooresystems.com> Message-ID: <434C5E50.7030502@gmail.com> The one month I decided to go on a whim (don't remember when now, but it's been quite a while), no one else showed up. So I've been operating under the assumption that everyone is too busy for organized gatherings. I've always been interested in the meetings, I just keep looking for an announcement here and at least a couple committed people before I burn a whole evening driving to Midtown and back. You don't even need a topic for me, I'm just there for the subs :) (BTW, if anyone is looking for a senior-level Perl developer with 8+ years of experience, I'm currently job hunting...) -- Stephen Clouse From garrett at scriptpro.com Wed Oct 12 03:20:54 2005 From: garrett at scriptpro.com (Garrett Goebel) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:20:54 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meetings Message-ID: I'd like to get together in November, even if there isn't a presentation or focus on a particular topic. Perhaps it is time to re-examine who's interested in meetings and what times work best? I'm hoping to have more time in the not too distant future. But with child #4 due in April, that may be a false hope... Garrett -- Garrett Goebel IS Development Specialist ScriptPro Direct: 913.403.5261 5828 Reeds Road Main: 913.384.1008 Mission, KS 66202 Fax: 913.384.2180 www.scriptpro.com garrett at scriptpro dot com -----Original Message----- From: kc-bounces at pm.org [mailto:kc-bounces at pm.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Moore Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:19 PM To: crash3m Cc: kc at pm.org Subject: Re: [Kc] meetings On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 03:50:02PM -0500, crash3m wrote: > the list looked to be kind of slow, wondering if the meetings are the > same way. If theres a couple people interested in meeting tonight (as > it is the 2nd tuesday) I'd be happy to go. Matt - I haven't heard much about a meeting in several months, so I don't think you can get one together with this little notice. There may be a few that are interested in a November meeting now that they have plenty of notice, especially if you mention an interesting discussion topic or two. I'm not sure why everyone else slowed down, but I've had Tuesday evening classes for about a year. I could probably make it next month, though. -Andy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kc/attachments/20051012/0d53f1ee/attachment.html From frank at wiles.org Wed Oct 12 06:19:18 2005 From: frank at wiles.org (Frank Wiles) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:19:18 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20051012081918.0ab14d78.frank@wiles.org> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:20:54 -0500 Garrett Goebel wrote: > I'd like to get together in November, even if there isn't a > presentation or focus on a particular topic. > > Perhaps it is time to re-examine who's interested in meetings and > what times work best? > > I'm hoping to have more time in the not too distant future. But with > child > #4 due in April, that may be a false hope... I too am interested in meetings, but it seems they always fall when I can't make it. Have we ever discussed having them on a weekend day? I don't know about everyone else's schedules, but my work week is pretty packed and it is difficult to make it from Lawrence to KC on those nights. An early Sunday evening would be just about perfect for me. --------------------------------- Frank Wiles http://www.wiles.org --------------------------------- From crash3m at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 17:20:56 2005 From: crash3m at gmail.com (crash3m) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:20:56 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meetings In-Reply-To: <434C4DFA.2070902@kc.rr.com> References: <20051011231855.GA21897@mooresystems.com> <434C4DFA.2070902@kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Being a newbie to Perl, most anything would be over my head I'm sure. The last real class I had related to scripting was Turbo Pascal in 1997. So needless to say I'm well out of practice. I do believe I have a firm grasp on programming concepts, with the exception of pointers. But, thats a whole different story. At the very least, I could rant about the lack of perl plugins for nagios that support snmpv3...but then again I'm sure no one really cares :) Since I've got a month or so to plan, I'll see if I cant dig us up some interesting tidbits, though it looks like theres 3 good ones already. Matt On 10/11/05, Doug Greer wrote: > > I've never been to a meeting, but I'll plan for Tuesday, November 8th. > > Topics I'm interested in: > Inside-out classes from Perl Best Practices > SVK module > CGI::Builder > > I'm open to any topic. > > Regards, > Doug Greer > > > Andrew Moore wrote: > > >On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 03:50:02PM -0500, crash3m wrote: > > > > > >>the list looked to be kind of slow, wondering if the meetings are the > same > >>way. If theres a couple people interested in meeting tonight (as it is > the > >>2nd tuesday) I'd be happy to go. > >> > >> > > > >Matt - I haven't heard much about a meeting in several months, so I > >don't think you can get one together with this little notice. There may > >be a few that are interested in a November meeting now that they have > >plenty of notice, especially if you mention an interesting discussion > >topic or two. > > > >I'm not sure why everyone else slowed down, but I've had Tuesday evening > >classes for about a year. I could probably make it next month, though. > > > >-Andy > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >kc mailing list > >kc at pm.org > >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > > > > > > > > > > -- > "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." > -- Phillip K Dick > > -- Got gmail? I do hahaha -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kc/attachments/20051012/6bad69b6/attachment.html From matthew at veradox.com Wed Oct 12 14:23:50 2005 From: matthew at veradox.com (Matthew Wilson) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:23:50 -0500 Subject: [Kc] meetings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd be glad to talk about mod_perl 2 on apache2 and/or WebGUI ( www.getwebgui.com) with anyone who cares. WebGUI's next major release is gonna have some killer features. If anyone has any suggestions for either the WebGUI core or any add-ons, i'd be glad to entertain/try them. If you want to try out WebGUI, go to http://demo.plainblack.com/. -Matthew Wilson _____ From: kc-bounces at pm.org [mailto:kc-bounces at pm.org] On Behalf Of crash3m Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:21 PM Cc: kc at pm.org Subject: Re: [Kc] meetings Being a newbie to Perl, most anything would be over my head I'm sure. The last real class I had related to scripting was Turbo Pascal in 1997. So needless to say I'm well out of practice. I do believe I have a firm grasp on programming concepts, with the exception of pointers. But, thats a whole different story. At the very least, I could rant about the lack of perl plugins for nagios that support snmpv3...but then again I'm sure no one really cares :) Since I've got a month or so to plan, I'll see if I cant dig us up some interesting tidbits, though it looks like theres 3 good ones already. Matt On 10/11/05, Doug Greer wrote: I've never been to a meeting, but I'll plan for Tuesday, November 8th. Topics I'm interested in: Inside-out classes from Perl Best Practices SVK module CGI::Builder I'm open to any topic. Regards, Doug Greer Andrew Moore wrote: >On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 03:50:02PM -0500, crash3m wrote: > > >>the list looked to be kind of slow, wondering if the meetings are the same >>way. If theres a couple people interested in meeting tonight (as it is the >>2nd tuesday) I'd be happy to go. >> >> > >Matt - I haven't heard much about a meeting in several months, so I >don't think you can get one together with this little notice. There may >be a few that are interested in a November meeting now that they have >plenty of notice, especially if you mention an interesting discussion >topic or two. > >I'm not sure why everyone else slowed down, but I've had Tuesday evening >classes for about a year. I could probably make it next month, though. > >-Andy > > > >_______________________________________________ >kc mailing list >kc at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > > > > -- "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." -- Phillip K Dick -- Got gmail? I do hahaha -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/124 - Release Date: 10/7/2005 From jay at jays.net Fri Oct 14 19:54:11 2005 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:54:11 -0500 Subject: [Kc] authorization >> form >> database integration In-Reply-To: <434E905F.2060705@tas-kc.com> References: <434E905F.2060705@tas-kc.com> Message-ID: <57d005f5058d4b035d0ec1227e0c889f@jays.net> On Oct 13, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Patrick M wrote: > Hi, I am looking at having a simple database update performed based on > information provided in a form. > In order to complete the form the user must be authorized by the > information on file. > > Anyone up to the challenge? That's pretty broad. Do you have specific questions? What database? How far have you gotten? j From davidnicol at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 12:58:31 2005 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:58:31 -0500 Subject: [Kc] authorization >> form >> database integration In-Reply-To: <57d005f5058d4b035d0ec1227e0c889f@jays.net> References: <434E905F.2060705@tas-kc.com> <57d005f5058d4b035d0ec1227e0c889f@jays.net> Message-ID: <934f64a20510171258g24f39401n6bdcc27833cbf2fc@mail.gmail.com> On 10/14/05, Jay Hannah wrote: > > On Oct 13, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Patrick M wrote: > > Hi, I am looking at having a simple database update performed based on > > information provided in a form. > > In order to complete the form the user must be authorized by the > > information on file. > > > > Anyone up to the challenge? Are you asking for help with a coding project you are doing or submitting a request for proposals? -- David L Nicol "As Krishnamurti used to say, the answer's in the question." -- Gary Corseri From davidnicol at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 11:22:18 2005 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:22:18 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <934f64a20510261122v24274d47w4ce49baec0f7d21f@mail.gmail.com> lots of books. Tell me if there are any you would like to review and I will request another box o' books for reviewing. Anyone for having a perl mongers meeting any time soon? We could formally go annual :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marsee Henon Date: Oct 25, 2005 8:16 PM Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 25 To: kcpm-moderate at davidnicol.com Hello, We have been changing things around here at O'Reilly as you might have noticed when you go to http://www.oreilly.com/. In an effort to catch up and get ahead a little, I have listed all the books we have released from the last newsletter until today. There are 24 books on this list. I think that is a record. Thanks for your help as always! 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This article describes some of the scare scenarios that Eric has staged using this controller, plus some other kid-tested tricks from haunted houses he's built. http://www.makezine.com/extras/27.html Sample Projects from MAKE: http://makezine.com/samples/ ================================================ >From Your Peers ================================================ ***Don't forget to check out the O'Reilly UG wiki to see what user groups around the globe are up to: http://wiki.oreillynet.com/usergroups/index.cgi Until next time-- Marsee Henon ================================================================ O'Reilly 1005 Gravenstein Highway North Sebastopol, CA 95472 http://ug.oreilly.com/ http://www.oreilly.com ================================================================ -- David L Nicol "After writing that abstraction layer, I'm going to know that protocol better than the inside of my shoes" From garrett at scriptpro.com Thu Oct 27 12:15:05 2005 From: garrett at scriptpro.com (Garrett Goebel) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:15:05 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 25 Message-ID: David Nicol wrote: > > Anyone for having a perl mongers meeting any time soon? We > could formally go annual :) I for one intend to show up a the regular spot at the once regular time: WHEN: Tuesday Nov. 11th, 7PM-close WHERE: Planet Sub at 50th and Main I won't reserve a room, but I'll wear a T-Shirt that will make me easily identifiable as a Perl Monger ;) -- Garrett Goebel IS Development Specialist ScriptPro Direct: 913.403.5261 5828 Reeds Road Main: 913.384.1008 Mission, KS 66202 Fax: 913.384.2180 www.scriptpro.com garrett at scriptpro.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kc/attachments/20051027/6b33e5eb/attachment.html From amoore at mooresystems.com Thu Oct 27 12:30:35 2005 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (amoore) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:30:35 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20051027193035.GA22571@mooresystems.com> On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 02:15:05PM -0500, Garrett Goebel wrote: > I for one intend to show up a the regular spot at the once regular time: > > WHEN: Tuesday Nov. 11th, 7PM-close > WHERE: Planet Sub at 50th and Main Oops. I just made plans to be in Chicago that week. I'll have to catch the November 2006 meeting! -A From scottk at uclick.com Thu Oct 27 12:32:07 2005 From: scottk at uclick.com (Scott Kahler) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:32:07 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1130441527.2808.47.camel@walkabout> Does that mean it's Hawaiian shirt night? On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 14:15 -0500, Garrett Goebel wrote: > > > I for one intend to show up a the regular spot at the once regular > time: > > WHEN: Tuesday Nov. 11th, 7PM-close > WHERE: Planet Sub at 50th and Main > > I won't reserve a room, but I'll wear a T-Shirt that will make me > easily identifiable as a Perl Monger ;) > > -- > Garrett Goebel > IS Development Specialist > > ScriptPro Direct: 913.403.5261 > 5828 Reeds Road Main: 913.384.1008 > Mission, KS 66202 Fax: 913.384.2180 > www.scriptpro.com garrett at scriptpro.com > > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc Scott Kahler =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Perl Geek http://www.uclick.com 816-210-8884 scottk at uclick.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Every day I send overnight packages filled with rabid weasels to people who use frames for no good reason. From garrett at scriptpro.com Thu Oct 27 12:44:00 2005 From: garrett at scriptpro.com (Garrett Goebel) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:44:00 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 25 Message-ID: amoore at mooresystems dot com wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 02:15:05PM -0500, Garrett Goebel wrote: > > > > I for one intend to show up a the regular spot at the once regular time: > > > > WHEN: Tuesday Nov. 11th, 7PM-close > > WHERE: Planet Sub at 50th and Main > > Oops. I just made plans to be in Chicago that week. I'll have to catch the November 2006 meeting! No problem. I'm still waiting for Frank to propose a hard date for a weekend meeting. You won't believe this: I installed cadaver and updated the webpage via WebDAV. It's only been almost a year since they changed it so you could only perform updates via WebDAV. I added the meeting to the news page and re-listed David as a moderator on the contacts page. How long has it been that you've been back from Chicago David? And how is fatherhood BTW? I've got #4 due in April. Here's some advice: "it is not a race." -- Garrett Goebel IS Development Specialist ScriptPro Direct: 913.403.5261 5828 Reeds Road Main: 913.384.1008 Mission, KS 66202 Fax: 913.384.2180 www.scriptpro.com garrett at scriptpro.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kc/attachments/20051027/b64bc61b/attachment.html From ironicface at earthlink.net Thu Oct 27 12:41:51 2005 From: ironicface at earthlink.net (Teal) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:41:51 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43612D7F.2070802@earthlink.net> Garrett Goebel wrote: > And how is fatherhood BTW? I've got #4 due in April. > Here's some advice: "it is not a race." > > -- > Garrett Goebel > IS Development Specialist Ah yes. But is it a "race condition"? Teal -- Five minutes of Silence, Meditate. Breathe. Be Alive. From frank at wiles.org Thu Oct 27 12:56:29 2005 From: frank at wiles.org (Frank Wiles) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:56:29 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20051027145629.32b378ad.frank@wiles.org> On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:44:00 -0500 Garrett Goebel wrote: > amoore at mooresystems dot com wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 02:15:05PM -0500, Garrett Goebel wrote: > > > > > > I for one intend to show up a the regular spot at the once > > > regular time: > > > > > > WHEN: Tuesday Nov. 11th, 7PM-close > > > WHERE: Planet Sub at 50th and Main > > > > Oops. I just made plans to be in Chicago that week. I'll have to > > catch the > November 2006 meeting! > > No problem. > > I'm still waiting for Frank to propose a hard date for a weekend > meeting. Is my calendar screwed up or is November 11th really a Friday? And since I didn't realize anyone was waiting on me, why not just make it Saturday November 12th? Say 3pm? I may have missed a message somewhere along the line where people said they were interested in a weekend meeting or maybe I'm having some sort of short term memory overload. push( @brain, 'Weekend pm meeting' ); Ah... all taken care of. :) --------------------------------- Frank Wiles http://www.wiles.org --------------------------------- From crash3m at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 20:03:15 2005 From: crash3m at gmail.com (crash3m) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:03:15 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 25 In-Reply-To: <20051027145629.32b378ad.frank@wiles.org> References: <20051027145629.32b378ad.frank@wiles.org> Message-ID: Fri/Sat is fine by me...actually any day after 3pm should work for me, granted prior notice. I usually wear 'loud' shirts, but I'll carry my laptop...just in case. Matt On 10/27/05, Frank Wiles wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:44:00 -0500 > Garrett Goebel wrote: > > > amoore at mooresystems dot com wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 02:15:05PM -0500, Garrett Goebel wrote: > > > > > > > > I for one intend to show up a the regular spot at the once > > > > regular time: > > > > > > > > WHEN: Tuesday Nov. 11th, 7PM-close > > > > WHERE: Planet Sub at 50th and Main > > > > > > Oops. I just made plans to be in Chicago that week. I'll have to > > > catch the > > November 2006 meeting! > > > > No problem. > > > > I'm still waiting for Frank to propose a hard date for a weekend > > meeting. > > Is my calendar screwed up or is November 11th really a Friday? > > And since I didn't realize anyone was waiting on me, why not just > make it Saturday November 12th? Say 3pm? I may have missed a message > somewhere along the line where people said they were interested in a > weekend meeting or maybe I'm having some sort of short term memory > overload. > > push( @brain, 'Weekend pm meeting' ); > > Ah... all taken care of. :) > > --------------------------------- > Frank Wiles > http://www.wiles.org > --------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -- Got gmail? I do hahaha -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Say 3pm? > > Or we could do that. > > Or we could do both... > > I've put notice of a Saturday meeting up at kc.pm.org as well. It sounds like there's at least 2 people who'll make the Saturday > meeting. I'll have to check with my wife --I mean my schedule. > > Is there anyone who's still interested in a Tuesday Nov. 8th meeting? I'd > already cleared the 8th with my... schedule. > > Garrett > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > > -- Got gmail? I do hahaha -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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