From bill at fccj.org Thu Aug 3 10:14:52 2000 From: bill at fccj.org (Bill Jones) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:38 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] Re: CGS2283 class (Internet Servers & Inter-Networking) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er Bill Jones wrote - Well, there are local PM groups; plus there is the local Linux Users Group - see http://jaxllug.jaxcan.org And, The Jax.PM group is there on-line (for posting) and most of them do say stuff; but I am not sure how NT/Perl literate they all are. (I am not as literate in NT Perl as I most likely need to be.) HTH; - FCCJ * 501 W State St * Jacksonville, Fl 32202 * 904/632-3089 - > From: "Proffitt, Todd " > Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 09:22:22 -0400 > To: "'Bill Jones'" > Subject: RE: CGS2283 class (Internet Servers & Inter-Networking) > > Sounds like Perl covered later in semester. I guess I need something more > immediate. I thought there might be a local Perl group or Perl user site > that I could converse with other Perl programmers. However our network > firewall will not allow access to chat rooms. > > Alot of the threads of messages I ran across referring to Perl seemed old > and not very well visited. > http://www.gorski.net/scripts/lists/www-scripts/1997/02/index.html > > Todd > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Jones [mailto:bill@fccj.org] > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 9:04 AM > To: Proffitt, Todd > Subject: Re: CGS2283 class (Internet Servers & Inter-Networking) > > > Perl will not be covered at any great length until we get into Unix. > > But do you have the various Windows related Perl books? > > Have you been hanging out at ActiveState's site? > > Do you HAVE to use NT? :) > > Just teasing about that last part :) > - FCCJ * 501 W State St * Jacksonville, Fl 32202 * 904/632-3089 - > >> From: "Proffitt, Todd " >> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:37:51 -0400 >> To: "'bill@fccj.org'" >> Subject: CGS2283 class (Internet Servers & Inter-Networking) >> >> Bill, >> In your Internet Servers & Inter-Networking class, when do you start >> covering PERL in the semester? Early on.......or is it later in the >> semester? I'm trying to find some way to get as much exposure to PERL as >> possible, as soon as possible. What do you recommend? >> >> I've only found a class on PERL at Baywood Technologies ( >> www.baywoodtech.com ) so far, but they are >> not >> offering it in August due to no demand. >> >> >> Todd Proffitt >> Specialist Systems Support >> 904-366-5221 >> MCP+Internet, MCSE >> >> > Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From bill at fccj.org Thu Aug 17 09:56:01 2000 From: bill at fccj.org (Bill Jones) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:38 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] Re: O'Reilly Needs Guinea Pigs...Any Volunteers? In-Reply-To: <200008161855.LAA14896@rock.west.ora.com> Message-ID: On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er Bill Jones wrote - [posted via JaxPM Moderator] Well, having a say might be worth the mailings :) - FCCJ * 501 W State St * Jacksonville, Fl 32202 * 904/632-3089 - > From: Denise Olliffe > Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:55:04 -0700 (PDT) > To: bill@fccj.org > Subject: O'Reilly Needs Guinea Pigs...Any Volunteers? > > > > What technologies are your group members excited about? Where do they > smell vaporware? We want you or members of your group to tell us all > about it. We invite you to join O'Reilly's new email survey research > panel, and give us your two cents. You can sign up at > http://www.survey.com/orpanel.html -- it only takes a few minutes. > > As a thank you for your time and insight, we'll give you a 25% discount > on all O'Reilly books purchased through the O'Reilly Web site for one > year (5% more than the regular UG discount), plus enter you in a drawing > for one of 200 "Official O'Reilly Guinea Pig" T-shirts. > > A few important details: After you register for the panel, you'll > receive short email invitations to participate in surveys, either from > O'Reilly & Associates or Survey.com, our partner in this endeavor. When > you enroll, you choose how often you're interested in hearing from us. > Membership and participation is entirely voluntary, and you may leave > the panel at any time. There's also no obligation to participate in any > particular survey. > > We promise that all information you submit will be kept confidential. > We will never sell or rent your personal information. If you order > books directly from us, we'll send you our book catalog three or four > times a year (if you don't want it, just ask us not to send it). > > If you feel your members would be interested in particpating, please > pass this invitation on to them. > > --Denise :) > Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From blackgr at alltel.net Thu Aug 17 22:02:43 2000 From: blackgr at alltel.net (Glynn Black) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:38 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] CGI.pm and Javascript Message-ID: <399CA753.EB8007C1@alltel.net> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er Glynn Black wrote - I've finally gotten around to teaching myself CGI.pm. I already see it takes a different mindset from your typical GUI design. I picked up Lincoln Stein's book sometime ago and more recently the second edition of O'Reilly's CGI Programming book. From the two books I'm seeing basically two different approaches.; the self-contained approach, which I favor at the moment, and separating the html from the server side code to whatever degree. I have a simple project I'm learning with that connects with MySQL. I've made decent progress so far with the self-contained approach, until I try to incorporate javascript to do client side field validation. I've hit a wall when it comes to debugging the javascript. Mr. Stein's book seems to focus on the self-contained approach but from what I can see doesn't elaborate on working problems out of javascript code. The O'Reilly book covers Javascript also but separates it from the perl code. It covers the self contained approach in the DBI section but nothing that I see on javascript field validation. I've thought about creating the forms with CGI.pm first, copying the html source from the browser into a separate file, working the kinks out of the javascript code and then rolling the javascript back into the perl script. Can anyone share thier strategies for dealing with this? Is client-side validation overrated? Worth the trouble? Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From blackgr at alltel.net Thu Aug 17 22:02:43 2000 From: blackgr at alltel.net (Glynn Black) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:38 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] CGI.pm and Javascript Message-ID: <399CA753.EB8007C1@alltel.net> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er Glynn Black wrote - I've finally gotten around to teaching myself CGI.pm. I already see it takes a different mindset from your typical GUI design. I picked up Lincoln Stein's book sometime ago and more recently the second edition of O'Reilly's CGI Programming book. From the two books I'm seeing basically two different approaches.; the self-contained approach, which I favor at the moment, and separating the html from the server side code to whatever degree. I have a simple project I'm learning with that connects with MySQL. I've made decent progress so far with the self-contained approach, until I try to incorporate javascript to do client side field validation. I've hit a wall when it comes to debugging the javascript. Mr. Stein's book seems to focus on the self-contained approach but from what I can see doesn't elaborate on working problems out of javascript code. The O'Reilly book covers Javascript also but separates it from the perl code. It covers the self contained approach in the DBI section but nothing that I see on javascript field validation. I've thought about creating the forms with CGI.pm first, copying the html source from the browser into a separate file, working the kinks out of the javascript code and then rolling the javascript back into the perl script. Can anyone share thier strategies for dealing with this? Is client-side validation overrated? Worth the trouble? Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From blackgr at alltel.net Thu Aug 17 22:02:43 2000 From: blackgr at alltel.net (Glynn Black) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:38 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] CGI.pm and Javascript Message-ID: <399CA753.EB8007C1@alltel.net> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er Glynn Black wrote - I've finally gotten around to teaching myself CGI.pm. I already see it takes a different mindset from your typical GUI design. I picked up Lincoln Stein's book sometime ago and more recently the second edition of O'Reilly's CGI Programming book. From the two books I'm seeing basically two different approaches.; the self-contained approach, which I favor at the moment, and separating the html from the server side code to whatever degree. I have a simple project I'm learning with that connects with MySQL. I've made decent progress so far with the self-contained approach, until I try to incorporate javascript to do client side field validation. I've hit a wall when it comes to debugging the javascript. Mr. Stein's book seems to focus on the self-contained approach but from what I can see doesn't elaborate on working problems out of javascript code. The O'Reilly book covers Javascript also but separates it from the perl code. It covers the self contained approach in the DBI section but nothing that I see on javascript field validation. I've thought about creating the forms with CGI.pm first, copying the html source from the browser into a separate file, working the kinks out of the javascript code and then rolling the javascript back into the perl script. Can anyone share thier strategies for dealing with this? Is client-side validation overrated? Worth the trouble? Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From wcjones at exchange.fccj.org Wed Aug 30 14:26:12 2000 From: wcjones at exchange.fccj.org (JONES, WILLIAM C) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:38 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] FW: O'Reilly articles on RSS Message-ID: On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - [from Jax.PM Moderator] > ---------- > From: Denise Olliffe > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:09 PM > To: bill@fccj.org > Subject: O'Reilly articles on RSS > > > I thought your group members might have interest in these news articles > from the O'Reilly Network about RSS... > > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2000/08/25/magazine/rss91.html > > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2000/08/25/magazine/rss_intro.html > > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2000/08/25/magazine/rss_tut.html > > If you think your members would appreciate the news, please pass them > on. > > Thanks, > Denise > :-) > > Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. 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