From mikeflan at att.net  Sat Dec  1 04:29:04 2018
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 06:29:04 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
Message-ID: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>


A sign of the times?

I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
for years.? Now it takes the form input, recreates
the webpage, but does not produce any output.? I
have this set:
use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
but there are no errors given.

I think it broke when they moved me to a new
server many months ago.

I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
not listed as an installed module.

ExtUtils::MakeMaker ??? 7.34
File::Copy::Recursive ??? 0.44
File::HomeDir ??? 1.004
File::Path ??? 2.16

and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.

Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
use File::Find in the program?


So I call up support.? 1st tier couldn't handle it,
so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.? Mine is
the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
Perl modules!

When we try to install File::Find it gives error:

Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection speed to 
208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done

Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection speed to 
66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done

Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection speed to 
216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done

Three usable fallback mirrors located

Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html 
(connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving www.namesdir.com...
(resolve attempt 1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request 
success......Done

Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com (/index.html)

Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable "gcc" binary....Done
** Unrecoverable Error **

The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.

Perl module installs require a working C compiler.

Please repair the C compiler and try again.

**************************


So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
low priority for me.? I will wait for incident number
09337722 to be resolved.


Mike

From jlbprof at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 06:39:06 2018
From: jlbprof at gmail.com (Julian Brown)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 08:39:06 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
Message-ID: <CAMzD1Sqch0ptBofmbFCqJC=ychzChhDbfXdhc2wuNL_K2TEQ-w@mail.gmail.com>

Does the HG server that is being used is it a cPanel server?   If so
everything you need should already be there.

Julian

On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:

>
> A sign of the times?
>
> I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
> for years.  Now it takes the form input, recreates
> the webpage, but does not produce any output.  I
> have this set:
> use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
> but there are no errors given.
>
> I think it broke when they moved me to a new
> server many months ago.
>
> I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
> not listed as an installed module.
>
> ExtUtils::MakeMaker     7.34
> File::Copy::Recursive     0.44
> File::HomeDir     1.004
> File::Path     2.16
>
> and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.
>
> Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
> use File::Find in the program?
>
>
> So I call up support.  1st tier couldn't handle it,
> so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.  Mine is
> the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
> Perl modules!
>
> When we try to install File::Find it gives error:
>
> Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
> 208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>
> Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
> 66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>
> Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
> 216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>
> Three usable fallback mirrors located
>
> Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html
> (connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving www.namesdir.com...
> (resolve attempt 1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request
> success......Done
>
> Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com (/index.html)
>
> Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable "gcc" binary....Done
> ** Unrecoverable Error **
>
> The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.
>
> Perl module installs require a working C compiler.
>
> Please repair the C compiler and try again.
>
> **************************
>
>
> So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
> It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
> low priority for me.  I will wait for incident number
> 09337722 to be resolved.
>
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From jlbprof at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 06:40:21 2018
From: jlbprof at gmail.com (Julian Brown)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 08:40:21 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <CAMzD1Sqch0ptBofmbFCqJC=ychzChhDbfXdhc2wuNL_K2TEQ-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sqch0ptBofmbFCqJC=ychzChhDbfXdhc2wuNL_K2TEQ-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMzD1SqTPc7nmXEHeyv-iTPSfeN0YSGan1v--UAEoxdqu2-Lww@mail.gmail.com>

If your "script" has a shebang at the top, make sure it says:

#!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl

That will ensure you are using the cPanel Perl which has all those modules
installed.

Julian

On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does the HG server that is being used is it a cPanel server?   If so
> everything you need should already be there.
>
> Julian
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> A sign of the times?
>>
>> I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
>> for years.  Now it takes the form input, recreates
>> the webpage, but does not produce any output.  I
>> have this set:
>> use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
>> but there are no errors given.
>>
>> I think it broke when they moved me to a new
>> server many months ago.
>>
>> I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
>> not listed as an installed module.
>>
>> ExtUtils::MakeMaker     7.34
>> File::Copy::Recursive     0.44
>> File::HomeDir     1.004
>> File::Path     2.16
>>
>> and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.
>>
>> Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
>> use File::Find in the program?
>>
>>
>> So I call up support.  1st tier couldn't handle it,
>> so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.  Mine is
>> the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
>> Perl modules!
>>
>> When we try to install File::Find it gives error:
>>
>> Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>> 208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>
>> Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>> 66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>
>> Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>> 216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>
>> Three usable fallback mirrors located
>>
>> Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html
>> (connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving www.namesdir.com...
>> (resolve attempt 1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request
>> success......Done
>>
>> Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com (/index.html)
>>
>> Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable "gcc" binary....Done
>> ** Unrecoverable Error **
>>
>> The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.
>>
>> Perl module installs require a working C compiler.
>>
>> Please repair the C compiler and try again.
>>
>> **************************
>>
>>
>> So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
>> It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
>> low priority for me.  I will wait for incident number
>> 09337722 to be resolved.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
>
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From mikeflan at att.net  Sat Dec  1 06:55:49 2018
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 08:55:49 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <CAMzD1SqTPc7nmXEHeyv-iTPSfeN0YSGan1v--UAEoxdqu2-Lww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sqch0ptBofmbFCqJC=ychzChhDbfXdhc2wuNL_K2TEQ-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMzD1SqTPc7nmXEHeyv-iTPSfeN0YSGan1v--UAEoxdqu2-Lww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>


Thanks Julian,

Using that shebang produced a 500: Internal Error


Before yesterday I was using
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
It worked long ago with that.

Now I am using
#!/usr/bin/perl
use cPanelUserConfig;

just because they say to use that.


The website is this:
http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi

Just put 'and' or 'doctor' in the search
window and hit Submit.? It should produce
a list of questions like when you click
on any of the bold words on the right side
of the page.


Yes, it is a cPanel server (in my opinion).



Mike


On 12/1/2018 8:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
> If your "script" has a shebang at the top, make sure it says:
>
> #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>
> That will ensure you are using the cPanel Perl which has all those 
> modules installed.
>
> Julian
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com 
> <mailto:jlbprof at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Does the HG server that is being used is it a cPanel server?? ?If
>     so everything you need should already be there.
>
>     Julian
>
>     On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net
>     <mailto:mikeflan at att.net>> wrote:
>
>
>         A sign of the times?
>
>         I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
>         for years.? Now it takes the form input, recreates
>         the webpage, but does not produce any output.? I
>         have this set:
>         use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
>         but there are no errors given.
>
>         I think it broke when they moved me to a new
>         server many months ago.
>
>         I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
>         not listed as an installed module.
>
>         ExtUtils::MakeMaker ??? 7.34
>         File::Copy::Recursive ??? 0.44
>         File::HomeDir ??? 1.004
>         File::Path ??? 2.16
>
>         and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.
>
>         Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
>         use File::Find in the program?
>
>
>         So I call up support.? 1st tier couldn't handle it,
>         so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.? Mine is
>         the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
>         Perl modules!
>
>         When we try to install File::Find it gives error:
>
>         Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>         208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>
>         Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>         66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>
>         Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>         216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>
>         Three usable fallback mirrors located
>
>         Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html
>         (connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving
>         www.namesdir.com...
>         (resolve attempt
>         1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request
>         success......Done
>
>         Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com
>         <http://www.namesdir.com> (/index.html)
>
>         Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable "gcc"
>         binary....Done
>         ** Unrecoverable Error **
>
>         The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.
>
>         Perl module installs require a working C compiler.
>
>         Please repair the C compiler and try again.
>
>         **************************
>
>
>         So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
>         It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
>         low priority for me.? I will wait for incident number
>         09337722 to be resolved.
>
>
>         Mike
>
>


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From jlbprof at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 07:40:01 2018
From: jlbprof at gmail.com (Julian Brown)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 09:40:01 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sqch0ptBofmbFCqJC=ychzChhDbfXdhc2wuNL_K2TEQ-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMzD1SqTPc7nmXEHeyv-iTPSfeN0YSGan1v--UAEoxdqu2-Lww@mail.gmail.com>
 <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>
Message-ID: <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>

So changing the shebang to #!/usr/bin/perl fixed your problem?

Julian

On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:

>
> Thanks Julian,
>
> Using that shebang produced a 500: Internal Error
>
>
> Before yesterday I was using
> #!/usr/local/bin/perl
> It worked long ago with that.
>
> Now I am using
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> use cPanelUserConfig;
>
> just because they say to use that.
>
>
> The website is this:
> http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi
>
> Just put 'and' or 'doctor' in the search
> window and hit Submit.  It should produce
> a list of questions like when you click
> on any of the bold words on the right side
> of the page.
>
>
> Yes, it is a cPanel server (in my opinion).
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 12/1/2018 8:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>
> If your "script" has a shebang at the top, make sure it says:
>
> #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>
> That will ensure you are using the cPanel Perl which has all those modules
> installed.
>
> Julian
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does the HG server that is being used is it a cPanel server?   If so
>> everything you need should already be there.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> A sign of the times?
>>>
>>> I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
>>> for years.  Now it takes the form input, recreates
>>> the webpage, but does not produce any output.  I
>>> have this set:
>>> use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
>>> but there are no errors given.
>>>
>>> I think it broke when they moved me to a new
>>> server many months ago.
>>>
>>> I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
>>> not listed as an installed module.
>>>
>>> ExtUtils::MakeMaker     7.34
>>> File::Copy::Recursive     0.44
>>> File::HomeDir     1.004
>>> File::Path     2.16
>>>
>>> and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
>>> use File::Find in the program?
>>>
>>>
>>> So I call up support.  1st tier couldn't handle it,
>>> so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.  Mine is
>>> the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
>>> Perl modules!
>>>
>>> When we try to install File::Find it gives error:
>>>
>>> Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>> 208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>
>>> Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>> 66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>
>>> Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>> 216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>
>>> Three usable fallback mirrors located
>>>
>>> Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html
>>> (connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving www.namesdir.com
>>> ...
>>> (resolve attempt 1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request
>>> success......Done
>>>
>>> Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com (/index.html)
>>>
>>> Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable "gcc"
>>> binary....Done
>>> ** Unrecoverable Error **
>>>
>>> The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.
>>>
>>> Perl module installs require a working C compiler.
>>>
>>> Please repair the C compiler and try again.
>>>
>>> **************************
>>>
>>>
>>> So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
>>> It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
>>> low priority for me.  I will wait for incident number
>>> 09337722 to be resolved.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From mikeflan at att.net  Sat Dec  1 08:55:40 2018
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 10:55:40 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sqch0ptBofmbFCqJC=ychzChhDbfXdhc2wuNL_K2TEQ-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMzD1SqTPc7nmXEHeyv-iTPSfeN0YSGan1v--UAEoxdqu2-Lww@mail.gmail.com>
 <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <472a5cc5-5c5f-d848-cfe2-7907aea2d01c@att.net>


No, the problem still exists.

I had a test print of file names in there, but
it is removed now.

The program needs to out text like this,
or it is not working.


*Your search was for "corticoid". *
*Found 81 matches in 48 Q&A's. *


*1) Q&A from the March, 2004 NADF newsletter: *

QUESTION: I recently "met" another Addisonian via an Internet chatroom. 
This person does not take Florinef or fludrocortisone. Shouldn't all 
people with Addison's take Florinef?

ANSWER: Almost everyone with Addison's disease (primary adrenal 
insufficiency) should take some amount of Flofinef (fludrocortisone) 
because this replaces the mineralo*corticoid* aldosterone, which is 
lacking along with cortisol in primary disease. Flofinef causes sodium 
retnetion and potassium excretion in the kidneys and helps to maintain 
blood volume and blood pressure. There is a small amount of 
mineralo*corticoid* activity in hydrocortisone, but usually not enough. 
Therefore, when Addisonians try to replace with only hydrocortisone, 
they often are forced to take too much hydrocortisone in order to keep 
blood volume up, resulting in weight gain and other features of 
cortisone excess. The dose of Florinef can vary from as little as 1/2 
tablet to as much as 3 or 4 tablets daily. People who have secondary 
adrenal insufficiency from pituitary disease or from long term steroid 
use usually do not need Florinef because they usually do not have an 
aldosterone deficiency. There are, however, some exceptions when 
Florinef is needed to maintain blood pressure and prevent potassium 
elevations.

------------------------------------------------------------------------


*2) Q&A from the June, 2004 NADF newsletter: *

QUESTION: I am a member of an internet message board and they have been 
talking about "corisol day curves". What are your thoughts on this 
medical procedure?

ANSWER: I have never used it in my clinical practice. It is very 
impractical to get blood studies throughout the day, the results are 
highly variable and the interpretation for adjustment of medication 
doses is questionable. I do still endorse the use of the lowest doses of 
gluco*corticoid*s that prevent adrenal insufficiency symptoms and allow 
for a good sense of well being and normalization of all the other 
clinical and laboratory features that are affected by adrenal 
insufficiency.



Mike


On 12/1/2018 9:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
> So changing the shebang to #!/usr/bin/perl fixed your problem?
>
> Julian
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net 
> <mailto:mikeflan at att.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     Thanks Julian,
>
>     Using that shebang produced a 500: Internal Error
>
>
>     Before yesterday I was using
>     #!/usr/local/bin/perl
>     It worked long ago with that.
>
>     Now I am using
>     #!/usr/bin/perl
>     use cPanelUserConfig;
>
>     just because they say to use that.
>
>
>     The website is this:
>     http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi
>
>     Just put 'and' or 'doctor' in the search
>     window and hit Submit.? It should produce
>     a list of questions like when you click
>     on any of the bold words on the right side
>     of the page.
>
>
>     Yes, it is a cPanel server (in my opinion).
>
>
>
>     Mike
>

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From mikeflan at att.net  Sat Dec  1 08:58:01 2018
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 10:58:01 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sqch0ptBofmbFCqJC=ychzChhDbfXdhc2wuNL_K2TEQ-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMzD1SqTPc7nmXEHeyv-iTPSfeN0YSGan1v--UAEoxdqu2-Lww@mail.gmail.com>
 <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a5674c1f-266a-863e-dd84-c0b76c3e5b1c@att.net>


Let me be a little more verbose here.

The program works fine if you click on one of those
words - so this link works:
http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle

If you put a word (and word) in the box and hit
submit, it does not work.

If you put muscle in that box and hit submit it
does not work.

I need File::Find installed, that is for sure.
I may need more things after that.


Mike



On 12/1/2018 9:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
> So changing the shebang to #!/usr/bin/perl fixed your problem?
>
> Julian
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net 
> <mailto:mikeflan at att.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     Thanks Julian,
>
>     Using that shebang produced a 500: Internal Error
>
>
>     Before yesterday I was using
>     #!/usr/local/bin/perl
>     It worked long ago with that.
>
>     Now I am using
>     #!/usr/bin/perl
>     use cPanelUserConfig;
>
>     just because they say to use that.
>
>
>     The website is this:
>     http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi
>
>     Just put 'and' or 'doctor' in the search
>     window and hit Submit.? It should produce
>     a list of questions like when you click
>     on any of the bold words on the right side
>     of the page.
>
>
>     Yes, it is a cPanel server (in my opinion).
>
>
>
>     Mike
>
>
>     On 12/1/2018 8:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>>     If your "script" has a shebang at the top, make sure it says:
>>
>>     #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>>
>>     That will ensure you are using the cPanel Perl which has all
>>     those modules installed.
>>
>>     Julian
>>
>>     On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:jlbprof at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Does the HG server that is being used is it a cPanel server??
>>         ?If so everything you need should already be there.
>>
>>         Julian
>>
>>         On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mike Flannigan
>>         <mikeflan at att.net <mailto:mikeflan at att.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>             A sign of the times?
>>
>>             I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
>>             for years.? Now it takes the form input, recreates
>>             the webpage, but does not produce any output.? I
>>             have this set:
>>             use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
>>             but there are no errors given.
>>
>>             I think it broke when they moved me to a new
>>             server many months ago.
>>
>>             I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
>>             not listed as an installed module.
>>
>>             ExtUtils::MakeMaker ??? 7.34
>>             File::Copy::Recursive ??? 0.44
>>             File::HomeDir ??? 1.004
>>             File::Path ??? 2.16
>>
>>             and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.
>>
>>             Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
>>             use File::Find in the program?
>>
>>
>>             So I call up support.? 1st tier couldn't handle it,
>>             so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.? Mine is
>>             the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
>>             Perl modules!
>>
>>             When we try to install File::Find it gives error:
>>
>>             Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection
>>             speed to
>>             208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>
>>             Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection
>>             speed to
>>             66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>
>>             Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection
>>             speed to
>>             216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>
>>             Three usable fallback mirrors located
>>
>>             Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html
>>             (connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving
>>             www.namesdir.com <http://www.namesdir.com>...
>>             (resolve attempt
>>             1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request
>>             <mailto:1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request>
>>             success......Done
>>
>>             Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com
>>             <http://www.namesdir.com> (/index.html)
>>
>>             Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable
>>             "gcc" binary....Done
>>             ** Unrecoverable Error **
>>
>>             The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.
>>
>>             Perl module installs require a working C compiler.
>>
>>             Please repair the C compiler and try again.
>>
>>             **************************
>>
>>
>>             So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
>>             It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
>>             low priority for me.? I will wait for incident number
>>             09337722 to be resolved.
>>
>>
>>             Mike
>>
>>
>
>
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From jlbprof at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 09:12:36 2018
From: jlbprof at gmail.com (Julian Brown)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 11:12:36 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <a5674c1f-266a-863e-dd84-c0b76c3e5b1c@att.net>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sqch0ptBofmbFCqJC=ychzChhDbfXdhc2wuNL_K2TEQ-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMzD1SqTPc7nmXEHeyv-iTPSfeN0YSGan1v--UAEoxdqu2-Lww@mail.gmail.com>
 <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a5674c1f-266a-863e-dd84-c0b76c3e5b1c@att.net>
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Without root access I do not believe you can install gcc, and since you
cannot install File::Find without gcc you maybe SOL.

Perhaps you should consider moving your site, Siteocity is a full cPanel
server and is about $70/year.  It should allow you access to File::Find if
you use the cPanel Perl #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl


Julian

On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 10:58 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:

>
> Let me be a little more verbose here.
>
> The program works fine if you click on one of those
> words - so this link works:
> http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle
>
> If you put a word (and word) in the box and hit
> submit, it does not work.
>
> If you put muscle in that box and hit submit it
> does not work.
>
> I need File::Find installed, that is for sure.
> I may need more things after that.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On 12/1/2018 9:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>
> So changing the shebang to #!/usr/bin/perl fixed your problem?
>
> Julian
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Julian,
>>
>> Using that shebang produced a 500: Internal Error
>>
>>
>> Before yesterday I was using
>> #!/usr/local/bin/perl
>> It worked long ago with that.
>>
>> Now I am using
>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>> use cPanelUserConfig;
>>
>> just because they say to use that.
>>
>>
>> The website is this:
>> http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi
>>
>> Just put 'and' or 'doctor' in the search
>> window and hit Submit.  It should produce
>> a list of questions like when you click
>> on any of the bold words on the right side
>> of the page.
>>
>>
>> Yes, it is a cPanel server (in my opinion).
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 12/1/2018 8:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>>
>> If your "script" has a shebang at the top, make sure it says:
>>
>> #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>>
>> That will ensure you are using the cPanel Perl which has all those
>> modules installed.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does the HG server that is being used is it a cPanel server?   If so
>>> everything you need should already be there.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> A sign of the times?
>>>>
>>>> I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
>>>> for years.  Now it takes the form input, recreates
>>>> the webpage, but does not produce any output.  I
>>>> have this set:
>>>> use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
>>>> but there are no errors given.
>>>>
>>>> I think it broke when they moved me to a new
>>>> server many months ago.
>>>>
>>>> I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
>>>> not listed as an installed module.
>>>>
>>>> ExtUtils::MakeMaker     7.34
>>>> File::Copy::Recursive     0.44
>>>> File::HomeDir     1.004
>>>> File::Path     2.16
>>>>
>>>> and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
>>>> use File::Find in the program?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I call up support.  1st tier couldn't handle it,
>>>> so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.  Mine is
>>>> the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
>>>> Perl modules!
>>>>
>>>> When we try to install File::Find it gives error:
>>>>
>>>> Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>> 208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>
>>>> Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>> 66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>
>>>> Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>> 216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>
>>>> Three usable fallback mirrors located
>>>>
>>>> Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html
>>>> (connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving www.namesdir.com
>>>> ...
>>>> (resolve attempt 1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request
>>>> success......Done
>>>>
>>>> Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com (/index.html)
>>>>
>>>> Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable "gcc"
>>>> binary....Done
>>>> ** Unrecoverable Error **
>>>>
>>>> The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.
>>>>
>>>> Perl module installs require a working C compiler.
>>>>
>>>> Please repair the C compiler and try again.
>>>>
>>>> **************************
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
>>>> It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
>>>> low priority for me.  I will wait for incident number
>>>> 09337722 to be resolved.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
>
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From mev412 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  1 09:44:41 2018
From: mev412 at gmail.com (Mev412)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 11:44:41 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
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References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
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 <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a5674c1f-266a-863e-dd84-c0b76c3e5b1c@att.net>
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Change

<form method="POST" action="http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi">

To

<form method="POST" action="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi">

And this makes the form submission work the same as the Query String.

The form post was sending the data, but then receiving a 301 redirect
to prepend www. However it may have not been preserving the form data
on the redirect, so it did not return the proper response.
On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 11:13 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Without root access I do not believe you can install gcc, and since you cannot install File::Find without gcc you maybe SOL.
>
> Perhaps you should consider moving your site, Siteocity is a full cPanel server and is about $70/year.  It should allow you access to File::Find if you use the cPanel Perl #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>
>
> Julian
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 10:58 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Let me be a little more verbose here.
>>
>> The program works fine if you click on one of those
>> words - so this link works:
>> http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle
>>
>> If you put a word (and word) in the box and hit
>> submit, it does not work.
>>
>> If you put muscle in that box and hit submit it
>> does not work.
>>
>> I need File::Find installed, that is for sure.
>> I may need more things after that.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/1/2018 9:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>>
>> So changing the shebang to #!/usr/bin/perl fixed your problem?
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Julian,
>>>
>>> Using that shebang produced a 500: Internal Error
>>>
>>>
>>> Before yesterday I was using
>>> #!/usr/local/bin/perl
>>> It worked long ago with that.
>>>
>>> Now I am using
>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>> use cPanelUserConfig;
>>>
>>> just because they say to use that.
>>>
>>>
>>> The website is this:
>>> http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi
>>>
>>> Just put 'and' or 'doctor' in the search
>>> window and hit Submit.  It should produce
>>> a list of questions like when you click
>>> on any of the bold words on the right side
>>> of the page.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it is a cPanel server (in my opinion).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/1/2018 8:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>>>
>>> If your "script" has a shebang at the top, make sure it says:
>>>
>>> #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>>>
>>> That will ensure you are using the cPanel Perl which has all those modules installed.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does the HG server that is being used is it a cPanel server?   If so everything you need should already be there.
>>>>
>>>> Julian
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A sign of the times?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
>>>>> for years.  Now it takes the form input, recreates
>>>>> the webpage, but does not produce any output.  I
>>>>> have this set:
>>>>> use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
>>>>> but there are no errors given.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it broke when they moved me to a new
>>>>> server many months ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
>>>>> not listed as an installed module.
>>>>>
>>>>> ExtUtils::MakeMaker     7.34
>>>>> File::Copy::Recursive     0.44
>>>>> File::HomeDir     1.004
>>>>> File::Path     2.16
>>>>>
>>>>> and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
>>>>> use File::Find in the program?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I call up support.  1st tier couldn't handle it,
>>>>> so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.  Mine is
>>>>> the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
>>>>> Perl modules!
>>>>>
>>>>> When we try to install File::Find it gives error:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>> 208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>
>>>>> Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>> 66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>
>>>>> Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>> 216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>
>>>>> Three usable fallback mirrors located
>>>>>
>>>>> Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html
>>>>> (connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving www.namesdir.com...
>>>>> (resolve attempt 1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request
>>>>> success......Done
>>>>>
>>>>> Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com (/index.html)
>>>>>
>>>>> Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable "gcc" binary....Done
>>>>> ** Unrecoverable Error **
>>>>>
>>>>> The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perl module installs require a working C compiler.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please repair the C compiler and try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> **************************
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
>>>>> It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
>>>>> low priority for me.  I will wait for incident number
>>>>> 09337722 to be resolved.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Houston mailing list
>>> Houston at pm.org
>>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
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>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From mikeflan at att.net  Sat Dec  1 10:11:40 2018
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 12:11:40 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <CAGm53ETQ35CztaqrNK3kteAPaC7MLLXw+sfYEtLzy4f5u6ju9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
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 <CAMzD1SqTPc7nmXEHeyv-iTPSfeN0YSGan1v--UAEoxdqu2-Lww@mail.gmail.com>
 <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a5674c1f-266a-863e-dd84-c0b76c3e5b1c@att.net>
 <CAMzD1SptZFPW=KV2AC_TbQoVGcFn6FoytETJ_hdA7=vfrUBimg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <ba70e092-da60-5afb-407b-d8e212dc26e6@att.net>


I think you may be on to something there, but it did not
work when I changed my line:

<FORM ACTION="http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
to
<FORM ACTION="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">

I say it does not make send for the link
http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle
to work if File::Find was the problem.


WOW, I just tried:
<FORM ACTION="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
and IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now I need to figure out what is going on here.
Why did it work before and then quit working.
I am positive it worked before.

If anybody can enlighten me, please call me at
281-286-6869.



Mike
281-286-6869



On 12/1/2018 11:44 AM, Mev412 wrote:
> Change
>
> <form method="POST" action="http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi">
>
> To
>
> <form method="POST" action="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi">
>
> And this makes the form submission work the same as the Query String.
>
> The form post was sending the data, but then receiving a 301 redirect
> to prepend www. However it may have not been preserving the form data
> on the redirect, so it did not return the proper response.
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 11:13 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Without root access I do not believe you can install gcc, and since you cannot install File::Find without gcc you maybe SOL.
>>
>> Perhaps you should consider moving your site, Siteocity is a full cPanel server and is about $70/year.  It should allow you access to File::Find if you use the cPanel Perl #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>>
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 10:58 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Let me be a little more verbose here.
>>>
>>> The program works fine if you click on one of those
>>> words - so this link works:
>>> http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle
>>>
>>> If you put a word (and word) in the box and hit
>>> submit, it does not work.
>>>
>>> If you put muscle in that box and hit submit it
>>> does not work.
>>>
>>> I need File::Find installed, that is for sure.
>>> I may need more things after that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/1/2018 9:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>>>
>>> So changing the shebang to #!/usr/bin/perl fixed your problem?
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Julian,
>>>>
>>>> Using that shebang produced a 500: Internal Error
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Before yesterday I was using
>>>> #!/usr/local/bin/perl
>>>> It worked long ago with that.
>>>>
>>>> Now I am using
>>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>>> use cPanelUserConfig;
>>>>
>>>> just because they say to use that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The website is this:
>>>> http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi
>>>>
>>>> Just put 'and' or 'doctor' in the search
>>>> window and hit Submit.  It should produce
>>>> a list of questions like when you click
>>>> on any of the bold words on the right side
>>>> of the page.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is a cPanel server (in my opinion).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/1/2018 8:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If your "script" has a shebang at the top, make sure it says:
>>>>
>>>> #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>>>>
>>>> That will ensure you are using the cPanel Perl which has all those modules installed.
>>>>
>>>> Julian
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Does the HG server that is being used is it a cPanel server?   If so everything you need should already be there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A sign of the times?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
>>>>>> for years.  Now it takes the form input, recreates
>>>>>> the webpage, but does not produce any output.  I
>>>>>> have this set:
>>>>>> use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
>>>>>> but there are no errors given.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it broke when they moved me to a new
>>>>>> server many months ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
>>>>>> not listed as an installed module.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ExtUtils::MakeMaker     7.34
>>>>>> File::Copy::Recursive     0.44
>>>>>> File::HomeDir     1.004
>>>>>> File::Path     2.16
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
>>>>>> use File::Find in the program?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I call up support.  1st tier couldn't handle it,
>>>>>> so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.  Mine is
>>>>>> the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
>>>>>> Perl modules!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When we try to install File::Find it gives error:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>>> 208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>>> 66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>>> 216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Three usable fallback mirrors located
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html
>>>>>> (connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving www.namesdir.com...
>>>>>> (resolve attempt 1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request
>>>>>> success......Done
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com (/index.html)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable "gcc" binary....Done
>>>>>> ** Unrecoverable Error **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perl module installs require a working C compiler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please repair the C compiler and try again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **************************
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
>>>>>> It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
>>>>>> low priority for me.  I will wait for incident number
>>>>>> 09337722 to be resolved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Houston mailing list
>>>> Houston at pm.org
>>>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Houston mailing list
>>> Houston at pm.org
>>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Houston mailing list
>>> Houston at pm.org
>>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From mikeflan at att.net  Sat Dec  1 10:25:44 2018
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 12:25:44 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <ba70e092-da60-5afb-407b-d8e212dc26e6@att.net>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
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Message-ID: <581fc0fe-b214-7707-53c8-9b33ac129cb0@att.net>


Here is an idea.

My old website is at:
http://www.mflan.com/index.htm

Then about 2-3 months ago I created a Wordpress version
of only my main page and put it here:
http://mflan.com/mf/

I created it from the Cpanel and was very surprised
when it worked the 2nd time around.

Then I decided I liked that, so I left my old
"index" page there, but then created a Redirect
from mflan.com
in directory /(.*)
to redirect URL:
http://www.mflan.com/

It says "Redirect with or without www."

There are no Aliases on this account.


Personally I don't even see how that redirect works.

Surely all this has nothing to do with the CGI problem
I was having until Mev421 fixed it.

I'm guessing that Mev421 is not interested in a
tech support job at HG, but I'm sure he would
do good there :-)



Mike


On 12/1/2018 12:11 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
>
> I think you may be on to something there, but it did not
> work when I changed my line:
>
> <FORM ACTION="http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
> to
> <FORM ACTION="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
>
> I say it does not make send for the link
> http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle
> to work if File::Find was the problem.
>
>
> WOW, I just tried:
> <FORM ACTION="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
> and IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Now I need to figure out what is going on here.
> Why did it work before and then quit working.
> I am positive it worked before.
>
> If anybody can enlighten me, please call me at
> 281-286-6869.
>
>
>
> Mike
> 281-286-6869
>
>
>
> On 12/1/2018 11:44 AM, Mev412 wrote:
>> Change
>>
>> <form method="POST" action="http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi">
>>
>> To
>>
>> <form method="POST" action="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi">
>>
>> And this makes the form submission work the same as the Query String.
>>
>> The form post was sending the data, but then receiving a 301 redirect
>> to prepend www. However it may have not been preserving the form data
>> on the redirect, so it did not return the proper response.
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 11:13 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Without root access I do not believe you can install gcc, and since 
>>> you cannot install File::Find without gcc you maybe SOL.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you should consider moving your site, Siteocity is a full 
>>> cPanel server and is about $70/year.? It should allow you access to 
>>> File::Find if you use the cPanel Perl 
>>> #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>>>
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 10:58 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Let me be a little more verbose here.
>>>>
>>>> The program works fine if you click on one of those
>>>> words - so this link works:
>>>> http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle
>>>>
>>>> If you put a word (and word) in the box and hit
>>>> submit, it does not work.
>>>>
>>>> If you put muscle in that box and hit submit it
>>>> does not work.
>>>>
>>>> I need File::Find installed, that is for sure.
>>>> I may need more things after that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/1/2018 9:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So changing the shebang to #!/usr/bin/perl fixed your problem?
>>>>
>>>> Julian
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Julian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Using that shebang produced a 500: Internal Error
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Before yesterday I was using
>>>>> #!/usr/local/bin/perl
>>>>> It worked long ago with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I am using
>>>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>>>> use cPanelUserConfig;
>>>>>
>>>>> just because they say to use that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The website is this:
>>>>> http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi
>>>>>
>>>>> Just put 'and' or 'doctor' in the search
>>>>> window and hit Submit.? It should produce
>>>>> a list of questions like when you click
>>>>> on any of the bold words on the right side
>>>>> of the page.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it is a cPanel server (in my opinion).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/1/2018 8:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If your "script" has a shebang at the top, make sure it says:
>>>>>
>>>>> #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>>>>>
>>>>> That will ensure you are using the cPanel Perl which has all those 
>>>>> modules installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Does the HG server that is being used is it a cPanel server??? If 
>>>>>> so everything you need should already be there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A sign of the times?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
>>>>>>> for years.? Now it takes the form input, recreates
>>>>>>> the webpage, but does not produce any output.? I
>>>>>>> have this set:
>>>>>>> use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
>>>>>>> but there are no errors given.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it broke when they moved me to a new
>>>>>>> server many months ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
>>>>>>> not listed as an installed module.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ExtUtils::MakeMaker???? 7.34
>>>>>>> File::Copy::Recursive???? 0.44
>>>>>>> File::HomeDir???? 1.004
>>>>>>> File::Path???? 2.16
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
>>>>>>> use File::Find in the program?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I call up support.? 1st tier couldn't handle it,
>>>>>>> so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.? Mine is
>>>>>>> the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
>>>>>>> Perl modules!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When we try to install File::Find it gives error:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>>>> 208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>>>> 66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>>>> 216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Three usable fallback mirrors located
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html
>>>>>>> (connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving 
>>>>>>> www.namesdir.com...
>>>>>>> (resolve attempt 1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request
>>>>>>> success......Done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com (/index.html)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable "gcc" 
>>>>>>> binary....Done
>>>>>>> ** Unrecoverable Error **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perl module installs require a working C compiler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please repair the C compiler and try again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **************************
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
>>>>>>> It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
>>>>>>> low priority for me.? I will wait for incident number
>>>>>>> 09337722 to be resolved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Houston mailing list
>>>>> Houston at pm.org
>>>>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Houston mailing list
>>>> Houston at pm.org
>>>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Houston mailing list
>>>> Houston at pm.org
>>>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Houston mailing list
>>> Houston at pm.org
>>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From mikeflan at att.net  Sat Dec  1 10:42:06 2018
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 12:42:06 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <581fc0fe-b214-7707-53c8-9b33ac129cb0@att.net>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
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 <CAMzD1SqTPc7nmXEHeyv-iTPSfeN0YSGan1v--UAEoxdqu2-Lww@mail.gmail.com>
 <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a5674c1f-266a-863e-dd84-c0b76c3e5b1c@att.net>
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Message-ID: <17c3aa7f-a0bc-5156-b8a5-8789153080cc@att.net>


Apparently my "redirect" is handled in the
.htaccess
file, whose contents are listed below.

I'm guessing it's that 2nd RewriteRule that
is handling the redirect to WP in http://mflan.com/mf/.


RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^mflan\.com$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/\.well-known/acme-challenge/[0-9a-zA-Z_-]+$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/\.well-known/cpanel-dcv/[0-9a-zA-Z_-]+$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} 
!^/\.well-known/pki-validation/[A-F0-9]{32}\.txt(?:\ Comodo\ DCV)?$
RewriteRule (.*) http://www.mflan.com/$1 [R=301,L]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/\.well-known/acme-challenge/[0-9a-zA-Z_-]+$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/\.well-known/cpanel-dcv/[0-9a-zA-Z_-]+$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} 
!^/\.well-known/pki-validation/[A-F0-9]{32}\.txt(?:\ Comodo\ DCV)?$
RewriteRule ^$ mf [L]
# Use PHPedge as default
AddHandler application/x-httpd-php-edge .php
<IfModule mod_suphp.c>
 ??? suPHP_ConfigPath /opt/phpedge/lib
</IfModule>



Thanks to Julian and Mev412 for helping me out here.
It is much appreciated.


Mike


On 12/1/2018 12:25 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
>
> Here is an idea.
>
> My old website is at:
> http://www.mflan.com/index.htm
>
> Then about 2-3 months ago I created a Wordpress version
> of only my main page and put it here:
> http://mflan.com/mf/
>
> I created it from the Cpanel and was very surprised
> when it worked the 2nd time around.
>
> Then I decided I liked that, so I left my old
> "index" page there, but then created a Redirect
> from mflan.com
> in directory /(.*)
> to redirect URL:
> http://www.mflan.com/
>
> It says "Redirect with or without www."
>
> There are no Aliases on this account.
>
>
> Personally I don't even see how that redirect works.
>
> Surely all this has nothing to do with the CGI problem
> I was having until Mev421 fixed it.
>
> I'm guessing that Mev421 is not interested in a
> tech support job at HG, but I'm sure he would
> do good there :-)
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 12/1/2018 12:11 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
>>
>> I think you may be on to something there, but it did not
>> work when I changed my line:
>>
>> <FORM ACTION="http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
>> to
>> <FORM ACTION="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
>>
>> I say it does not make send for the link
>> http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle
>> to work if File::Find was the problem.
>>
>>
>> WOW, I just tried:
>> <FORM ACTION="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
>> and IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Now I need to figure out what is going on here.
>> Why did it work before and then quit working.
>> I am positive it worked before.
>>
>> If anybody can enlighten me, please call me at
>> 281-286-6869.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>> 281-286-6869
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/1/2018 11:44 AM, Mev412 wrote:
>>> Change
>>>
>>> <form method="POST" action="http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi">
>>>
>>> To
>>>
>>> <form method="POST" action="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi">
>>>
>>> And this makes the form submission work the same as the Query String.
>>>
>>> The form post was sending the data, but then receiving a 301 redirect
>>> to prepend www. However it may have not been preserving the form data
>>> on the redirect, so it did not return the proper response.
>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 11:13 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Without root access I do not believe you can install gcc, and since 
>>>> you cannot install File::Find without gcc you maybe SOL.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you should consider moving your site, Siteocity is a full 
>>>> cPanel server and is about $70/year.? It should allow you access to 
>>>> File::Find if you use the cPanel Perl 
>>>> #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Julian
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 10:58 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me be a little more verbose here.
>>>>>
>>>>> The program works fine if you click on one of those
>>>>> words - so this link works:
>>>>> http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle
>>>>>
>>>>> If you put a word (and word) in the box and hit
>>>>> submit, it does not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you put muscle in that box and hit submit it
>>>>> does not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need File::Find installed, that is for sure.
>>>>> I may need more things after that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/1/2018 9:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So changing the shebang to #!/usr/bin/perl fixed your problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Julian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Julian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using that shebang produced a 500: Internal Error
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before yesterday I was using
>>>>>> #!/usr/local/bin/perl
>>>>>> It worked long ago with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I am using
>>>>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>>>>> use cPanelUserConfig;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just because they say to use that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The website is this:
>>>>>> http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just put 'and' or 'doctor' in the search
>>>>>> window and hit Submit.? It should produce
>>>>>> a list of questions like when you click
>>>>>> on any of the bold words on the right side
>>>>>> of the page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it is a cPanel server (in my opinion).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/1/2018 8:40 AM, Julian Brown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your "script" has a shebang at the top, make sure it says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #!/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/perl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That will ensure you are using the cPanel Perl which has all 
>>>>>> those modules installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 8:39 AM Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Does the HG server that is being used is it a cPanel server??? 
>>>>>>> If so everything you need should already be there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 6:29 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A sign of the times?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a CGI program on HostGator that worked fine
>>>>>>>> for years.? Now it takes the form input, recreates
>>>>>>>> the webpage, but does not produce any output.? I
>>>>>>>> have this set:
>>>>>>>> use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
>>>>>>>> but there are no errors given.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it broke when they moved me to a new
>>>>>>>> server many months ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I notice that File::Find, which the program uses, is
>>>>>>>> not listed as an installed module.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ExtUtils::MakeMaker???? 7.34
>>>>>>>> File::Copy::Recursive???? 0.44
>>>>>>>> File::HomeDir???? 1.004
>>>>>>>> File::Path???? 2.16
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and 40+ others are installed, but not File::Find.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wouldn't that produce an error when it saw:
>>>>>>>> use File::Find in the program?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I call up support.? 1st tier couldn't handle it,
>>>>>>>> so they bumped it up to tier 2 support.? Mine is
>>>>>>>> the first call the tier 2 guy has ever had regarding
>>>>>>>> Perl modules!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When we try to install File::Find it gives error:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ping:0.000100851058959961 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>>>>> 208.43.108.66 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ping:0.000107288360595703 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>>>>> 66.23.237.210 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ping:0.000108242034912109 (ticks) Testing connection speed to
>>>>>>>> 216.14.113.158 using pureperl...(using cached speed)...Done
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Three usable fallback mirrors located
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fetching http://www.namesdir.com/mirrors/cpan/index.html
>>>>>>>> (connected:0).......(request attempt 1/12)...Resolving 
>>>>>>>> www.namesdir.com...
>>>>>>>> (resolve attempt 1/65)... at 69.64.50.156......receiving......request
>>>>>>>> success......Done
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mirror Check passed for www.namesdir.com (/index.html)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Checking C compiler....Could not locate an executable "gcc" 
>>>>>>>> binary....Done
>>>>>>>> ** Unrecoverable Error **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The C compiler is not functional and auto repair failed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perl module installs require a working C compiler.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please repair the C compiler and try again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **************************
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I wait for a C compiler expert to spring into action.
>>>>>>>> It's been less than 24 hours so far and this is very
>>>>>>>> low priority for me.? I will wait for incident number
>>>>>>>> 09337722 to be resolved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Houston mailing list
>>>>>> Houston at pm.org
>>>>>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
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From mikeflan at att.net  Sun Dec  2 06:48:07 2018
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 08:48:07 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <ba70e092-da60-5afb-407b-d8e212dc26e6@att.net>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sqch0ptBofmbFCqJC=ychzChhDbfXdhc2wuNL_K2TEQ-w@mail.gmail.com>
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 <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a5674c1f-266a-863e-dd84-c0b76c3e5b1c@att.net>
 <CAMzD1SptZFPW=KV2AC_TbQoVGcFn6FoytETJ_hdA7=vfrUBimg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGm53ETQ35CztaqrNK3kteAPaC7MLLXw+sfYEtLzy4f5u6ju9w@mail.gmail.com>
 <ba70e092-da60-5afb-407b-d8e212dc26e6@att.net>
Message-ID: <cde06261-3c0c-c52f-eb87-74e10a53c317@att.net>


Sorry for bombarding you guys with e-mails, but I wrote
the e-mail below incorrectly.? This is what I meant
to say about what fixed my problem:

WOW, I just tried:
<form method="POST" action="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi">
and IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!


This redirect issue seems to be propagated across my site.
I have removed the single Redirect I had and it did not
seem to change anything.

At the top of my webpage I have this simple image:

<IMG src="../common/accent10x10.GIF" border=0>

in my program and it didn't work.

So I change it to
<IMG src="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/accent10x10.GIF" border=0>
and it doesn't work.

I change it to
<IMG src="accent10x10.GIF" border=0>
and it doesn't work.

After doing more testing I think I am actually going to have
to move to another ISP to fix this, unless HG fixes it.

This simple site does not display the
accent10x10.GIF
graphic
http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/test.cgi

Mev412,

If you could tell me how you figured out my problem
was related to redirection, that may help me.


Mike


On 12/1/2018 12:11 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
>
> I think you may be on to something there, but it did not
> work when I changed my line:
>
> <FORM ACTION="http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
> to
> <FORM ACTION="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
>
> I say it does not make send for the link
> http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle
> to work if File::Find was the problem.
>
>
> WOW, I just tried:
> INCORRECT************ <FORM 
> ACTION="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST"> 
> ***********INCORRECT
> and IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Now I need to figure out what is going on here.
> Why did it work before and then quit working.
> I am positive it worked before.
>
> If anybody can enlighten me, please call me at
> 281-286-6869.
>
>
>
> Mike
> 281-286-6869
>

From mev412 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  2 08:16:24 2018
From: mev412 at gmail.com (Mev412)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 10:16:24 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
In-Reply-To: <cde06261-3c0c-c52f-eb87-74e10a53c317@att.net>
References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sqch0ptBofmbFCqJC=ychzChhDbfXdhc2wuNL_K2TEQ-w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMzD1SqTPc7nmXEHeyv-iTPSfeN0YSGan1v--UAEoxdqu2-Lww@mail.gmail.com>
 <b4fa32c1-5a70-c568-3f35-a5c2dc268184@att.net>
 <CAMzD1Sr+6GAOzA42CbqJwAi9ynfp2Xc1kgJ9n6oOMMg=TOq3pQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <a5674c1f-266a-863e-dd84-c0b76c3e5b1c@att.net>
 <CAMzD1SptZFPW=KV2AC_TbQoVGcFn6FoytETJ_hdA7=vfrUBimg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGm53ETQ35CztaqrNK3kteAPaC7MLLXw+sfYEtLzy4f5u6ju9w@mail.gmail.com>
 <ba70e092-da60-5afb-407b-d8e212dc26e6@att.net>
 <cde06261-3c0c-c52f-eb87-74e10a53c317@att.net>
Message-ID: <CAGm53ERT_KyCU7yR6Y8J-MfPfo7_xpQiiNAjT-MN4Mw6hQJJaQ@mail.gmail.com>

Mike,

Try changing

<img src="accent10x10.GIF" border="0">

to

<img src="/accent10x10.GIF" border="0">

If you leave off the / at the beginning, the path will be relative from the
current url, which turns into /cgi-bin/accent10x10.GIF (which does not
exist).

The way I discovered the redirect issue was using the Browser's network
tab. This tab shows all requests to the server, whether its to load HTML,
AJAX, javascript, css, etc. I prefer Firefox when debugging w/ the network
tab because it does a better job at showing when redirects take place (the
original request will show a 301 status and a new request will show up),
and it also does better at preserving form data after redirects.

1) Open firefox
2) Navigate to your page
3) Right click somewhere on page and click "Inspect Element"
4) Click the "Network" tab
5) Check "Persist Logs"
6) Submit form or reload page to see network requests populate
7) Select network request to view more details such as url, form data,
headers, response, etc.

Hope this helps. I attached a screenshot to show an example.

Best Regards,
Christopher Mevissen

[image: site2.png]


On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 8:48 AM Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:

>
> Sorry for bombarding you guys with e-mails, but I wrote
> the e-mail below incorrectly.  This is what I meant
> to say about what fixed my problem:
>
> WOW, I just tried:
> <form method="POST" action="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi">
> and IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> This redirect issue seems to be propagated across my site.
> I have removed the single Redirect I had and it did not
> seem to change anything.
>
> At the top of my webpage I have this simple image:
>
> <IMG src="../common/accent10x10.GIF" border=0>
>
> in my program and it didn't work.
>
> So I change it to
> <IMG src="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/accent10x10.GIF" border=0>
> and it doesn't work.
>
> I change it to
> <IMG src="accent10x10.GIF" border=0>
> and it doesn't work.
>
> After doing more testing I think I am actually going to have
> to move to another ISP to fix this, unless HG fixes it.
>
> This simple site does not display the
> accent10x10.GIF
> graphic
> http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/test.cgi
>
> Mev412,
>
> If you could tell me how you figured out my problem
> was related to redirection, that may help me.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 12/1/2018 12:11 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
> >
> > I think you may be on to something there, but it did not
> > work when I changed my line:
> >
> > <FORM ACTION="http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
> > to
> > <FORM ACTION="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
> >
> > I say it does not make send for the link
> > http://mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?name=muscle
> > to work if File::Find was the problem.
> >
> >
> > WOW, I just tried:
> > INCORRECT************ <FORM
> > ACTION="http://www.mflan.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi" METHOD="POST">
> > ***********INCORRECT
> > and IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Now I need to figure out what is going on here.
> > Why did it work before and then quit working.
> > I am positive it worked before.
> >
> > If anybody can enlighten me, please call me at
> > 281-286-6869.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> > 281-286-6869
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From mikeflan at att.net  Mon Dec  3 07:59:38 2018
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 09:59:38 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Modules at HG
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References: <479c99c7-da35-7900-4588-c47248b026f1@att.net>
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Message-ID: <bb5b1f2a-7664-43c8-4fb9-2c5845bcf693@att.net>


Thanks so much.

Actually we figured out yesterday that this is
a 'Premature end of script headers' problem:
https://www.liquidweb.com/kb/apache-error-premature-end-of-script-headers/

So files placed in the cgi-bin folder (even
text or gif files) cannot be accessed with
a browser.? Even though the cgi files in
those folders can be run.? So accent10x10.GIF
is in the cgi-bin folder, but the program does
not see it.

Even 2nd tier support doesn't have access to
the httpd.conf file, so the incident is being
bumped up further at HG.

Interestingly, if you create any other folder
(i.e. cgi-bin2) and put the cgi files in there,
they run fine.

That "Persist Logs" technique is very useful.
Thanks for informing me of that.


Mike



On 12/2/2018 10:16 AM, Mev412 wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Try changing
>
> <img src="accent10x10.GIF" border="0">
>
> to
>
> <img src="/accent10x10.GIF" border="0">
>
> If you leave off the / at the beginning, the path will be relative 
> from the current url, which turns into /cgi-bin/accent10x10.GIF (which 
> does not exist).
>
> The way I discovered the redirect issue was using the Browser's 
> network tab. This tab shows all requests to the server, whether its to 
> load HTML, AJAX, javascript, css, etc. I prefer Firefox when debugging 
> w/ the network tab because it does a better job at showing when 
> redirects take place (the original request will show a 301 status and 
> a new request will show up), and it also does better at preserving 
> form data after redirects.
>
> 1) Open firefox
> 2) Navigate to your page
> 3) Right click somewhere on page and click "Inspect Element"
> 4) Click the "Network" tab
> 5) Check "Persist Logs"
> 6) Submit form or reload page to see network requests populate
> 7) Select network request to view more details such as url, form data, 
> headers, response, etc.
>
> Hope this helps. I attached a screenshot to show an example.
>
> Best Regards,
> Christopher Mevissen
>