From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Jun 1 20:04:04 2014 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 22:04:04 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] June Houston.pm Meeting: Introduction to Bioinformatics with Perl Message-ID: <20140601220404.4b820b4d@cygnus> Daniel Culver will be presenting an introduction to the use of Perl in bioinformatics. This will be a taste of some of the challenges in the subject, rather than a deep dive. We will meet at Hostgator at 5005 Mitchelldale, Suite 100 at 7pm on Thursday, June 12. I look forward to seeing you there. G. Wade -- Fortune knocks but once, but misfortune has much more patience. -- Laurence J. Peter From drzigman at drzigman.com Wed Jun 18 12:08:38 2014 From: drzigman at drzigman.com (Robert Stone) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:08:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [pm-h] pm-uninstall - For uninstalling Perl Modules in a sane manner In-Reply-To: <52896592.1309.1403118123971.JavaMail.zimbra@drzigman.com> Message-ID: <1500974465.1361.1403118518595.JavaMail.zimbra@drzigman.com> Greetings, I found myself needing to uninstall a few modules today and historically I would just navigate to the site perl install in my perlbrew and rm -rf the relevant files, hoping that nothing else was sharing the namespace: [rstone at rstone 5.16.3]$ pwd /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3 [rstone at rstone 5.16.3]$ rm -rf Bad/Module/ [rstone at rstone 5.16.3]$ I came across a blog post at http://scratching.psybermonkey.net/2011/02/perl-how-to-uninstall-delete-perl.html that talks about pm-uninstall, a program similar to cpanm that takes care of this task much more efficiently. It lists out what is going to be removed, mentions the deps, and handles man page updates (for those who use perldoc locally) as well as asks for conformation: [rstone at rstone product]$ cpanm App::pmuninstall --> Working on App::pmuninstall Fetching http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/X/XA/XAICRON/App-pmuninstall-0.30.tar.gz ... OK Configuring App-pmuninstall-0.30 ... OK Building and testing App-pmuninstall-0.30 ... OK Successfully installed App-pmuninstall-0.30 1 distribution installed [rstone at rstone product]$ pm-uninstall Math::Pari Math::BigInt::Pari --> Working on Math::Pari Math::Pari is included in the distribution Math-Pari and contains: /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/x86_64-linux/Math/Pari.pm /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/x86_64-linux/Math/PariInit.pm /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/x86_64-linux/Math/libPARI.dumb.pod /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/x86_64-linux/Math/libPARI.pod /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/x86_64-linux/auto/Math/Pari/Pari.so /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/man/man3/Math::Pari.3 /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/man/man3/Math::PariInit.3 /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/man/man3/Math::libPARI.3 /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/man/man3/Math::libPARI.dumb.3 Also, they're depended on by the following installed dists: Math-BigInt-Pari Are you sure you want to uninstall Math-Pari? [n] y Successfully uninstalled Math::Pari --> Working on Math::BigInt::Pari Math::BigInt::Pari is included in the distribution Math-BigInt-Pari and contains: /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/Math/BigInt/Pari.pm /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/man/man3/Math::BigInt::Pari.3 Are you sure you want to uninstall Math-BigInt-Pari? [y] y Successfully uninstalled Math::BigInt::Pari You may want to rebuild man(1) entries. Try `mandb -c` if needed [rstone at rstone product]$ I found it quite handy and thought I'd share it for anyone else who may find themselves in a similar position. I'm also open to any other similar tools/methods you may have used in the past. Happy uninstalling! Best Regards, Robert Stone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gwadej at anomaly.org Wed Jun 18 12:49:54 2014 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:49:54 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] pm-uninstall - For uninstalling Perl Modules in a sane manner In-Reply-To: <1500974465.1361.1403118518595.JavaMail.zimbra@drzigman.com> References: <52896592.1309.1403118123971.JavaMail.zimbra@drzigman.com> <1500974465.1361.1403118518595.JavaMail.zimbra@drzigman.com> Message-ID: <20140618144954.47dfaa09@cygnus> Ooo, Nice. I hadn't seen that before. G. Wade On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:08:38 +0000 (GMT) Robert Stone via Houston wrote: > Greetings, > > I found myself needing to uninstall a few modules today and > historically I would just navigate to the site perl install in my > perlbrew and rm -rf the relevant files, hoping that nothing else was > sharing the namespace: > > > > [rstone at rstone 5.16.3]$ pwd > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3 > [rstone at rstone 5.16.3]$ rm -rf Bad/Module/ > [rstone at rstone 5.16.3]$ > > > > > I came across a blog post at > http://scratching.psybermonkey.net/2011/02/perl-how-to-uninstall-delete-perl.html > that talks about pm-uninstall, a program similar to cpanm that takes > care of this task much more efficiently. It lists out what is going > to be removed, mentions the deps, and handles man page updates (for > those who use perldoc locally) as well as asks for conformation: > > > > > [rstone at rstone product]$ cpanm App::pmuninstall > --> Working on App::pmuninstall > Fetching > http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/X/XA/XAICRON/App-pmuninstall-0.30.tar.gz ... > OK Configuring App-pmuninstall-0.30 ... OK Building and testing > App-pmuninstall-0.30 ... OK Successfully installed > App-pmuninstall-0.30 1 distribution installed > [rstone at rstone product]$ pm-uninstall Math::Pari Math::BigInt::Pari > --> Working on Math::Pari > Math::Pari is included in the distribution Math-Pari and contains: > > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/x86_64-linux/Math/Pari.pm > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/x86_64-linux/Math/PariInit.pm > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/x86_64-linux/Math/libPARI.dumb.pod > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/x86_64-linux/Math/libPARI.pod > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/x86_64-linux/auto/Math/Pari/Pari.so > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/man/man3/Math::Pari.3 > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/man/man3/Math::PariInit.3 > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/man/man3/Math::libPARI.3 > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/man/man3/Math::libPARI.dumb.3 > > Also, they're depended on by the following installed dists: > > Math-BigInt-Pari > > Are you sure you want to uninstall Math-Pari? [n] y > > Successfully uninstalled Math::Pari > > --> Working on Math::BigInt::Pari > Math::BigInt::Pari is included in the distribution Math-BigInt-Pari > and contains: > > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/lib/site_perl/5.16.3/Math/BigInt/Pari.pm > /home/rstone/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.3/man/man3/Math::BigInt::Pari.3 > > Are you sure you want to uninstall Math-BigInt-Pari? [y] y > > Successfully uninstalled Math::BigInt::Pari > > You may want to rebuild man(1) entries. Try `mandb -c` if needed > > [rstone at rstone product]$ > > > > > I found it quite handy and thought I'd share it for anyone else who > may find themselves in a similar position. I'm also open to any other > similar tools/methods you may have used in the past. > > > > > Happy uninstalling! > > > > > Best Regards, > > Robert Stone -- Any time things appear to be going better, you have overlooked something. From gwadej at anomaly.org Thu Jun 19 14:44:21 2014 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:44:21 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Houston June Meeting write-up Message-ID: <20140619164421.6b607fd2@cygnus> I've finally gotten the write-up about the June meeting on-line. Those of you who couldn't be there missed a rousing discussion in addition to the main presentation. The full write-up is available at http://houston.pm.org/talks/2014talks/1406Talk/index.html G. Wade -- Any time things appear to be going better, you have overlooked something. From gwadej at anomaly.org Fri Jun 20 14:46:45 2014 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:46:45 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm: Call for presentation Message-ID: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> Hi everyone, It's about 3 weeks to the next Houston.pm meeting on July 10 at cPanel. Does anyone have a topic they would like to present? Is there any kind of topic you guys would like to hear about? * Perl beginner - we've had a couple of these lately - ? * Perl advanced - ? * General programming - ? * Open Source projects we should know about - ? * Tools/environment - we haven't had editor presentations in a while - ? * Security - ? * Hardware - doing anything cool with hardware and Perl? - ? * Something unrelated to Perl, but still of interest to the group - Mind hacks - Making - ? Remember the quality of meetings is under your control. G. Wade -- It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. -- Richard Feynman From todd at rinaldo.us Sun Jun 22 10:39:39 2014 From: todd at rinaldo.us (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:39:39 -0400 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm: Call for presentation In-Reply-To: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> References: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> Message-ID: I have a partially formed idea I've been tossing around. There is a ton of content online from past and present YAPCs now. Not to mention other conferences. Often this content is coming from the author of the feature / method being discussed. I was wondering if we could somehow integrate that into a meeting with discussion. The format might be: 1. We vote up and watch a list of videos people like (possibly clipped to the good parts) 2. Discussion / Q&A of content. I get that I and others could do this on our own. So I'm hesitant to say there's value. I thought I'd throw it out to the list and see if anyone's had any thoughts based on the idea. On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:46 PM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston wrote: > Hi everyone, > > It's about 3 weeks to the next Houston.pm meeting on July 10 at cPanel. > > Does anyone have a topic they would like to present? > > Is there any kind of topic you guys would like to hear about? > > * Perl beginner > - we've had a couple of these lately > - ? > * Perl advanced > - ? > * General programming > - ? > * Open Source projects we should know about > - ? > * Tools/environment > - we haven't had editor presentations in a while > - ? > * Security > - ? > * Hardware > - doing anything cool with hardware and Perl? > - ? > * Something unrelated to Perl, but still of interest to the group > - Mind hacks > - Making > - ? > > Remember the quality of meetings is under your control. > G. Wade > -- > It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how > smart you are. 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URL: From todd at rinaldo.us Mon Jun 23 08:25:07 2014 From: todd at rinaldo.us (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:25:07 -0400 Subject: [pm-h] Fwd: [pm_groups] YAPC::NA live streamin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In case you couldn't make it to YAPC. you can still see live videos at: https://www.youtube.com/yapcna From gwadej at anomaly.org Tue Jun 24 05:28:41 2014 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 07:28:41 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm: Call for presentation In-Reply-To: References: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> Message-ID: <20140624072841.5f5c1293@cygnus> On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:39:39 -0400 Todd Rinaldo via Houston wrote: > I have a partially formed idea I've been tossing around. There is a > ton of content online from past and present YAPCs now. Not to mention > other conferences. Often this content is coming from the author of the > feature / method being discussed. I was wondering if we could somehow > integrate that into a meeting with discussion. > > The format might be: > 1. We vote up and watch a list of videos people like (possibly clipped > to the good parts) > 2. Discussion / Q&A of content. > > I get that I and others could do this on our own. So I'm hesitant to > say there's value. I thought I'd throw it out to the list and see if > anyone's had any thoughts based on the idea. [Drat, I didn't reply all on this one.] I can see this as a start to a discussion in the group. On the other hand, would everyone really want to sit as a group to watch a video of someone presenting somewhere else? Any real opinions? G. Wade > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:46 PM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > It's about 3 weeks to the next Houston.pm meeting on July 10 at > > cPanel. > > > > Does anyone have a topic they would like to present? > > > > Is there any kind of topic you guys would like to hear about? > > > > * Perl beginner > > - we've had a couple of these lately > > - ? > > * Perl advanced > > - ? > > * General programming > > - ? > > * Open Source projects we should know about > > - ? > > * Tools/environment > > - we haven't had editor presentations in a while > > - ? > > * Security > > - ? > > * Hardware > > - doing anything cool with hardware and Perl? > > - ? > > * Something unrelated to Perl, but still of interest to the group > > - Mind hacks > > - Making > > - ? > > > > Remember the quality of meetings is under your control. > > G. Wade > > -- > > It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter > > how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. > > -- Richard Feynman > > _______________________________________________ > > Houston mailing list > > Houston at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > -- Be a good ancestor. -- Jonas Salk From mrallen1 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 24 06:58:43 2014 From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 06:58:43 -0700 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm: Call for presentation In-Reply-To: <20140624072841.5f5c1293@cygnus> References: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> <20140624072841.5f5c1293@cygnus> Message-ID: <1403618323.47630.YahooMailNeo@web142405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Yay top posting! At my functional programming group we watched a video from Erlang Factory about Haskell and I think it went alright since we didn't have a local resource who wanted to do a presentation about Haskell.? One other thing we tried last month was "office hours" where people who self-id as "mentors" put their names on a whiteboard along with their area of expertise and then others who come can ask questions about that subject from the mentor. ?I think that worked *really* well. Plenty of time for networking and the opportunity to ask questions about side-projects or just learning new stuff you didn't really understand previously. So there's a couple of ideas. Thanks. Mark On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 8:29 AM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston wrote: On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:39:39 -0400 Todd Rinaldo via Houston wrote: > I have a partially formed idea I've been tossing around. There is a > ton of content online from past and present YAPCs now. Not to mention > other conferences. Often this content is coming from the author of the > feature / method being discussed. I was wondering if we could somehow > integrate that into a meeting with discussion. > > The format might be: > 1. We vote up and watch a list of videos people like (possibly clipped > to the good parts) > 2. Discussion / Q&A of content. > > I get that I and others could do this on our own. So I'm hesitant to > say there's value. I thought I'd throw it out to the list and see if > anyone's had any thoughts based on the idea. [Drat, I didn't reply all on this one.] I can see this as a start to a discussion in the group. On the other hand, would everyone really want to sit as a group to watch a video of someone presenting somewhere else? Any real opinions? G. Wade > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:46 PM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > It's about 3 weeks to the next Houston.pm meeting on July 10 at > > cPanel. > > > > Does anyone have a topic they would like to present? > > > > Is there any kind of topic you guys would like to hear about? > > > >? * Perl beginner > >? ? - we've had a couple of these lately > >? ? - ? > >? * Perl advanced > >? ? - ? > >? * General programming > >? ? - ? > >? * Open Source projects we should know about > >? ? - ? > >? * Tools/environment > >? ? - we haven't had editor presentations in a while > >? ? - ? > >? * Security > >? ? - ? > >? * Hardware > >? ? - doing anything cool with hardware and Perl? > >? ? - ? > >? * Something unrelated to Perl, but still of interest to the group > >? ? - Mind hacks > >? ? - Making > >? ? - ? > > > > Remember the quality of meetings is under your control. > > G. Wade > > -- > > It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter > > how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- Richard Feynman > > _______________________________________________ > > Houston mailing list > > Houston at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > -- Be a good ancestor.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- Jonas Salk _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From estrabd at gmail.com Sat Jun 28 06:22:41 2014 From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 08:22:41 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm: Call for presentation In-Reply-To: <20140624072841.5f5c1293@cygnus> References: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> <20140624072841.5f5c1293@cygnus> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:28 AM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:39:39 -0400 > Todd Rinaldo via Houston wrote: > >> I have a partially formed idea I've been tossing around. There is a >> ton of content online from past and present YAPCs now. Not to mention >> other conferences. Often this content is coming from the author of the >> feature / method being discussed. I was wondering if we could somehow >> integrate that into a meeting with discussion. >> >> The format might be: >> 1. We vote up and watch a list of videos people like (possibly clipped >> to the good parts) >> 2. Discussion / Q&A of content. >> >> I get that I and others could do this on our own. So I'm hesitant to >> say there's value. I thought I'd throw it out to the list and see if >> anyone's had any thoughts based on the idea. > > [Drat, I didn't reply all on this one.] > > I can see this as a start to a discussion in the group. On the other > hand, would everyone really want to sit as a group to watch a video of > someone presenting somewhere else? > > Any real opinions? I think there is something to Todd's idea that could work and not just be a bunch of geeks watching Youtube videos while sitting idle. Perhaps we could dedicate some time (5-10 min, max) to providing some "recommended videos" list. I know that inevitably there are talks that are and are not worth your time. Some of us could help compile this offline. Likewise, coming off the heels of YAPC, would it be worth brainstorming with the group to get a list of interesting topics that attendees might wish to hear or talk about? I have this half-brained idea that if we cultivate a list of "interesting topics," it might dawn on someone that their specialty/interest is also an interest of others. Once we get an initial list, I am happy to feed and water that list. I am interested in such a list, not just for Houston.pm, but as a general list that anyone looking for Perl talks could turn to to see what might be some interesting topics. Looking ahead .. Another approach that we might want to consider is that instead of collecting ideas or topics to present, is to proactively seek out a stable of individuals who want to present and who like to present. It seems like it'd be a lot easier to grow a core group of presenters rather than each time trying to convince someone new to step up. The reason I say this is because we have a group of people who would certainly talk about (whatever) if asked. I would, I know a few others who would (and do) regularly. We should absolutely seek out new speakers and highly encourage it, but in my opinion it's a whole lot easier to generate talks if we have a maintained list of topics and a group of people who we know are willing to talk (about anything.) This would also work well for "lightning talk" meetings if we make sure the people who we know will talk (about something) will show up. I think that focusing on having a regular rotation of @speakers willing to talk about @things (as determined by work we do to survey the group) is a good recipe for building up regular attendance. (beware, blue sky tangent) At some point if we have some "go to" people and have built up attendance (bc we're serving real needs), I think it'd be super cool to take that leap and organize a bona fide 1 or 2 day Houston Perl Workshop - especially considering that 2/4 of the YAPC::NA sponsors that had tables are also sponsors of Houston.pm, I imagine that we have that part covered pretty well. I say all of this fully recognizing the fact that I am also volunteering to play a large part in any effort to organize this. Thank you, Brett > > G. Wade > >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:46 PM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston >> wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > It's about 3 weeks to the next Houston.pm meeting on July 10 at >> > cPanel. >> > >> > Does anyone have a topic they would like to present? >> > >> > Is there any kind of topic you guys would like to hear about? >> > >> > * Perl beginner >> > - we've had a couple of these lately >> > - ? >> > * Perl advanced >> > - ? >> > * General programming >> > - ? >> > * Open Source projects we should know about >> > - ? >> > * Tools/environment >> > - we haven't had editor presentations in a while >> > - ? >> > * Security >> > - ? >> > * Hardware >> > - doing anything cool with hardware and Perl? >> > - ? >> > * Something unrelated to Perl, but still of interest to the group >> > - Mind hacks >> > - Making >> > - ? >> > >> > Remember the quality of meetings is under your control. >> > G. Wade >> > -- >> > It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter >> > how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. >> > -- Richard Feynman >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Houston mailing list >> > Houston at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston >> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ >> >> >> > > > -- > Be a good ancestor. -- Jonas Salk > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From estrabd at gmail.com Sat Jun 28 07:56:29 2014 From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:56:29 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] tracking Houston.pm topics pool, available speakers, and archived talks Message-ID: Here you go, https://github.com/estrabd/houston-pm-topics-list The main file is the README.md - simple enough. Please fork it, update it, then issue a pull request if you wish to update it or tweak it. I am looking for any who are willing to be generally available for a talk (of their choosing) to also list their github user names in the top section. I hope this or some form of this catches on; I think it'll make things a ton easier. Likewise, if there is a topic you would like hear more about it, please add it to the available topics list. My plan is to list and link all past talks. I think seeing it all in one place will give us more ideas. Thank you, Brett From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Jun 28 08:41:36 2014 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 10:41:36 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm presentation? Message-ID: <20140628104136.4904cce9@cygnus> So, our next meeting is at cPanel on July 10. That's less than 2 weeks. Does anyone have a topic? Now that YAPC is over, I'm sure a few people can breathe enough to make a suggestion. G. Wade -- Bugs thrive on poor housekeeping and inadequate hygine. Where one is tolerated, many are found. -- Rick Hoselton From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Jun 28 09:12:02 2014 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 11:12:02 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm: Call for presentation In-Reply-To: References: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> <20140624072841.5f5c1293@cygnus> Message-ID: <20140628111202.2fa29b57@cygnus> On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 08:22:41 -0500 "B. Estrade via Houston" wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:28 AM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston > wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:39:39 -0400 > > Todd Rinaldo via Houston wrote: > > > >> I have a partially formed idea I've been tossing around. There is a > >> ton of content online from past and present YAPCs now. Not to > >> mention other conferences. Often this content is coming from the > >> author of the feature / method being discussed. I was wondering if > >> we could somehow integrate that into a meeting with discussion. > >> > >> The format might be: > >> 1. We vote up and watch a list of videos people like (possibly > >> clipped to the good parts) > >> 2. Discussion / Q&A of content. > >> > >> I get that I and others could do this on our own. So I'm hesitant > >> to say there's value. I thought I'd throw it out to the list and > >> see if anyone's had any thoughts based on the idea. > > > > [Drat, I didn't reply all on this one.] > > > > I can see this as a start to a discussion in the group. On the other > > hand, would everyone really want to sit as a group to watch a video > > of someone presenting somewhere else? > > > > Any real opinions? > > I think there is something to Todd's idea that could work and not just > be a bunch of geeks watching Youtube videos while sitting idle. > > Perhaps we could dedicate some time (5-10 min, max) to providing some > "recommended videos" list. I know that inevitably there are talks > that are and are not worth your time. Some of us could help compile > this offline. > > Likewise, coming off the heels of YAPC, would it be worth > brainstorming with the group to get a list of interesting topics that > attendees might wish to hear or talk about? I have this half-brained > idea that if we cultivate a list of "interesting topics," it might > dawn on someone that their specialty/interest is also an interest of > others. Once we get an initial list, I am happy to feed and water that > list. I am interested in such a list, not just for Houston.pm, but as > a general list that anyone looking for Perl talks could turn to to see > what might be some interesting topics. The mailing list has a kind of informal, impermanent version of this list. I trawl through it once in a while looking for things. An official list is a good idea. > Looking ahead .. Another approach that we might want to consider is > that instead of collecting ideas or topics to present, is to > proactively seek out a stable of individuals who want to present and > who like to present. It seems like it'd be a lot easier to grow a core We've done that before. The result was a small number of us who presented until we burned out on the whole notion of presenting for a while. One downside of the "stable of presenters" is that they get better and better at presenting, which adds a barrier of entry for any new presenters. When we had the same people always presenting, I had people propose cool ideas, but say they couldn't present because they would never be as good as the "official" presenters. > group of presenters rather than each time trying to convince someone > new to step up. The reason I say this is because we have a group of > people who would certainly talk about (whatever) if asked. I would, I > know a few others who would (and do) regularly. > > We should absolutely seek out new speakers and highly encourage it, > but in my opinion it's a whole lot easier to generate talks if we have > a maintained list of topics and a group of people who we know are I think the list of talks is a good idea. And, to some extent, we will always have a group of people who are willing to present on almost any topic. As a group, we have a lot more to say than _any_ small group of presenters. Personally, I would love to learn from the people who feel like they don't have much to say. They are often the ones who do presentations on topics no one else would have thought of. > willing to talk (about anything.) This would also work well for > "lightning talk" meetings if we make sure the people who we know will > talk (about something) will show up. I think that focusing on having > a regular rotation of @speakers willing to talk about @things (as > determined by work we do to survey the group) is a good recipe for > building up regular attendance. > > (beware, blue sky tangent) > > At some point if we have some "go to" people and have built up > attendance (bc we're serving real needs), I think it'd be super cool > to take that leap and organize a bona fide 1 or 2 day Houston Perl > Workshop - especially considering that 2/4 of the YAPC::NA sponsors > that had tables are also sponsors of Houston.pm, I imagine that we > have that part covered pretty well. I say all of this fully > recognizing the fact that I am also volunteering to play a large part > in any effort to organize this. This sounds like a great idea. It is a lot of work, but it would be worth it to get more of the Perl people in Houston engaged with the group. > Thank you, > Brett Good thoughts, G. Wade > > G. Wade > > > >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:46 PM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston > >> wrote: > >> > Hi everyone, > >> > > >> > It's about 3 weeks to the next Houston.pm meeting on July 10 at > >> > cPanel. > >> > > >> > Does anyone have a topic they would like to present? > >> > > >> > Is there any kind of topic you guys would like to hear about? > >> > > >> > * Perl beginner > >> > - we've had a couple of these lately > >> > - ? > >> > * Perl advanced > >> > - ? > >> > * General programming > >> > - ? > >> > * Open Source projects we should know about > >> > - ? > >> > * Tools/environment > >> > - we haven't had editor presentations in a while > >> > - ? > >> > * Security > >> > - ? > >> > * Hardware > >> > - doing anything cool with hardware and Perl? > >> > - ? > >> > * Something unrelated to Perl, but still of interest to the > >> > group > >> > - Mind hacks > >> > - Making > >> > - ? > >> > > >> > Remember the quality of meetings is under your control. > >> > G. Wade > >> > -- > >> > It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter > >> > how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's > >> > wrong. -- Richard Feynman > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Houston mailing list > >> > Houston at pm.org > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > >> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Be a good ancestor. -- Jonas Salk > > _______________________________________________ > > Houston mailing list > > Houston at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -- Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius, and a lot of courage, to move in the opposite direction. -- Albert Einstein From estrabd at gmail.com Sat Jun 28 13:47:29 2014 From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 15:47:29 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] tracking Houston.pm topics pool, available speakers, and archived talks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just an update, Wade and Reini have contributed (thank you both very much). I hope other can contribute or at least star it. You can also just add your contributions as "issues" if you don't want to deal with git (but still please star it =). https://github.com/estrabd/houston-pm-topics-list Thanks! Brett On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, B. Estrade wrote: > Here you go, > > https://github.com/estrabd/houston-pm-topics-list > > The main file is the README.md - simple enough. > > Please fork it, update it, then issue a pull request if you wish to > update it or tweak it. I am looking for any who are willing to be > generally available for a talk (of their choosing) to also list their > github user names in the top section. > > I hope this or some form of this catches on; I think it'll make things > a ton easier. > > Likewise, if there is a topic you would like hear more about it, > please add it to the available topics list. > > My plan is to list and link all past talks. I think seeing it all in > one place will give us more ideas. > > Thank you, > Brett From estrabd at gmail.com Sat Jun 28 15:07:53 2014 From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 17:07:53 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm: Call for presentation In-Reply-To: <20140628111202.2fa29b57@cygnus> References: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> <20140624072841.5f5c1293@cygnus> <20140628111202.2fa29b57@cygnus> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:12 AM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 08:22:41 -0500 > "B. Estrade via Houston" wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:28 AM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston >> wrote: >> > On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:39:39 -0400 >> > Todd Rinaldo via Houston wrote: >> > >> >> I have a partially formed idea I've been tossing around. There is a >> >> ton of content online from past and present YAPCs now. Not to >> >> mention other conferences. Often this content is coming from the >> >> author of the feature / method being discussed. I was wondering if >> >> we could somehow integrate that into a meeting with discussion. >> >> >> >> The format might be: >> >> 1. We vote up and watch a list of videos people like (possibly >> >> clipped to the good parts) >> >> 2. Discussion / Q&A of content. >> >> >> >> I get that I and others could do this on our own. So I'm hesitant >> >> to say there's value. I thought I'd throw it out to the list and >> >> see if anyone's had any thoughts based on the idea. >> > >> > [Drat, I didn't reply all on this one.] >> > >> > I can see this as a start to a discussion in the group. On the other >> > hand, would everyone really want to sit as a group to watch a video >> > of someone presenting somewhere else? >> > >> > Any real opinions? >> >> I think there is something to Todd's idea that could work and not just >> be a bunch of geeks watching Youtube videos while sitting idle. >> >> Perhaps we could dedicate some time (5-10 min, max) to providing some >> "recommended videos" list. I know that inevitably there are talks >> that are and are not worth your time. Some of us could help compile >> this offline. >> >> Likewise, coming off the heels of YAPC, would it be worth >> brainstorming with the group to get a list of interesting topics that >> attendees might wish to hear or talk about? I have this half-brained >> idea that if we cultivate a list of "interesting topics," it might >> dawn on someone that their specialty/interest is also an interest of >> others. Once we get an initial list, I am happy to feed and water that >> list. I am interested in such a list, not just for Houston.pm, but as >> a general list that anyone looking for Perl talks could turn to to see >> what might be some interesting topics. > > The mailing list has a kind of informal, impermanent version of this > list. I trawl through it once in a while looking for things. An > official list is a good idea. > >> Looking ahead .. Another approach that we might want to consider is >> that instead of collecting ideas or topics to present, is to >> proactively seek out a stable of individuals who want to present and >> who like to present. It seems like it'd be a lot easier to grow a core > > We've done that before. The result was a small number of us who > presented until we burned out on the whole notion of presenting for a > while. > > One downside of the "stable of presenters" is that they get better and > better at presenting, which adds a barrier of entry for any new > presenters. When we had the same people always presenting, I had people > propose cool ideas, but say they couldn't present because they would > never be as good as the "official" presenters. > Excellent point, so we don't do that, but we can't ignore the fact that there are certain individuals who actually like giving talks. However those willing to present regularly should take it upon themselves to identify and bring in a new speaker (perhaps at their workplace or from another user group). We can also directly ask those who have demonstrated the willingness to speak in the past to come back again. The key is not to ask "everyone," but to ask someone specifically. We can all think of at least one person. And thanks to your hard work, we have over 10 years of talks to look back on (!! :) > >> group of presenters rather than each time trying to convince someone >> new to step up. The reason I say this is because we have a group of >> people who would certainly talk about (whatever) if asked. I would, I >> know a few others who would (and do) regularly. >> >> We should absolutely seek out new speakers and highly encourage it, >> but in my opinion it's a whole lot easier to generate talks if we have >> a maintained list of topics and a group of people who we know are > > I think the list of talks is a good idea. And, to some extent, we will > always have a group of people who are willing to present on almost any > topic. > > As a group, we have a lot more to say than _any_ small group of > presenters. Personally, I would love to learn from the people who feel > like they don't have much to say. They are often the ones who do > presentations on topics no one else would have thought of. > I'm not sure how to force these interesting people and topics to turn up. I can only think of creating an environment that invites it. Or we have to identify them outside of PM and directly ask them if they could please come talk about something, anything. And like I said above, we have a lot of 1 time speakers who may be willing to come back - their choice of topic. If they ask what they can talk about, well we have a list we're keeping now. >> willing to talk (about anything.) This would also work well for >> "lightning talk" meetings if we make sure the people who we know will >> talk (about something) will show up. I think that focusing on having >> a regular rotation of @speakers willing to talk about @things (as >> determined by work we do to survey the group) is a good recipe for >> building up regular attendance. >> >> (beware, blue sky tangent) >> >> At some point if we have some "go to" people and have built up >> attendance (bc we're serving real needs), I think it'd be super cool >> to take that leap and organize a bona fide 1 or 2 day Houston Perl >> Workshop - especially considering that 2/4 of the YAPC::NA sponsors >> that had tables are also sponsors of Houston.pm, I imagine that we >> have that part covered pretty well. I say all of this fully >> recognizing the fact that I am also volunteering to play a large part >> in any effort to organize this. > > This sounds like a great idea. It is a lot of work, but it would be > worth it to get more of the Perl people in Houston engaged with the > group. > >> Thank you, >> Brett > > Good thoughts, > G. Wade I am going to try my theory about asking specific people if they'd be willing to give a talk at a Houston.pm meeting. It may not pay off for this coming meeting, but I think it might for future talks. Thanks, Wade. Brett > >> > G. Wade >> > >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:46 PM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi everyone, >> >> > >> >> > It's about 3 weeks to the next Houston.pm meeting on July 10 at >> >> > cPanel. >> >> > >> >> > Does anyone have a topic they would like to present? >> >> > >> >> > Is there any kind of topic you guys would like to hear about? >> >> > >> >> > * Perl beginner >> >> > - we've had a couple of these lately >> >> > - ? >> >> > * Perl advanced >> >> > - ? >> >> > * General programming >> >> > - ? >> >> > * Open Source projects we should know about >> >> > - ? >> >> > * Tools/environment >> >> > - we haven't had editor presentations in a while >> >> > - ? >> >> > * Security >> >> > - ? >> >> > * Hardware >> >> > - doing anything cool with hardware and Perl? >> >> > - ? >> >> > * Something unrelated to Perl, but still of interest to the >> >> > group >> >> > - Mind hacks >> >> > - Making >> >> > - ? >> >> > >> >> > Remember the quality of meetings is under your control. >> >> > G. Wade >> >> > -- >> >> > It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter >> >> > how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's >> >> > wrong. -- Richard Feynman >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Houston mailing list >> >> > Houston at pm.org >> >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston >> >> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Be a good ancestor. -- Jonas Salk >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Houston mailing list >> > Houston at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston >> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Houston mailing list >> Houston at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > -- > Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more > violent. It takes a touch of genius, and a lot of courage, to move in > the opposite direction. -- Albert Einstein From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Jun 28 18:49:26 2014 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 20:49:26 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm: Call for presentation In-Reply-To: References: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> <20140624072841.5f5c1293@cygnus> <20140628111202.2fa29b57@cygnus> Message-ID: <20140628204926.7075e274@cygnus> +1 On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 17:07:53 -0500 "B. Estrade via Houston" wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:12 AM, G. Wade Johnson > wrote: > > On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 08:22:41 -0500 > > "B. Estrade via Houston" wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:28 AM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston > >> wrote: > >> > On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:39:39 -0400 > >> > Todd Rinaldo via Houston wrote: > >> > > >> >> I have a partially formed idea I've been tossing around. There > >> >> is a ton of content online from past and present YAPCs now. Not > >> >> to mention other conferences. Often this content is coming from > >> >> the author of the feature / method being discussed. I was > >> >> wondering if we could somehow integrate that into a meeting > >> >> with discussion. > >> >> > >> >> The format might be: > >> >> 1. We vote up and watch a list of videos people like (possibly > >> >> clipped to the good parts) > >> >> 2. Discussion / Q&A of content. > >> >> > >> >> I get that I and others could do this on our own. So I'm > >> >> hesitant to say there's value. I thought I'd throw it out to > >> >> the list and see if anyone's had any thoughts based on the idea. > >> > > >> > [Drat, I didn't reply all on this one.] > >> > > >> > I can see this as a start to a discussion in the group. On the > >> > other hand, would everyone really want to sit as a group to > >> > watch a video of someone presenting somewhere else? > >> > > >> > Any real opinions? > >> > >> I think there is something to Todd's idea that could work and not > >> just be a bunch of geeks watching Youtube videos while sitting > >> idle. > >> > >> Perhaps we could dedicate some time (5-10 min, max) to providing > >> some "recommended videos" list. I know that inevitably there are > >> talks that are and are not worth your time. Some of us could help > >> compile this offline. > >> > >> Likewise, coming off the heels of YAPC, would it be worth > >> brainstorming with the group to get a list of interesting topics > >> that attendees might wish to hear or talk about? I have this > >> half-brained idea that if we cultivate a list of "interesting > >> topics," it might dawn on someone that their specialty/interest is > >> also an interest of others. Once we get an initial list, I am > >> happy to feed and water that list. I am interested in such a list, > >> not just for Houston.pm, but as a general list that anyone looking > >> for Perl talks could turn to to see what might be some interesting > >> topics. > > > > The mailing list has a kind of informal, impermanent version of this > > list. I trawl through it once in a while looking for things. An > > official list is a good idea. > > > >> Looking ahead .. Another approach that we might want to consider is > >> that instead of collecting ideas or topics to present, is to > >> proactively seek out a stable of individuals who want to present > >> and who like to present. It seems like it'd be a lot easier to > >> grow a core > > > > We've done that before. The result was a small number of us who > > presented until we burned out on the whole notion of presenting for > > a while. > > > > One downside of the "stable of presenters" is that they get better > > and better at presenting, which adds a barrier of entry for any new > > presenters. When we had the same people always presenting, I had > > people propose cool ideas, but say they couldn't present because > > they would never be as good as the "official" presenters. > > > > Excellent point, so we don't do that, but we can't ignore the fact > that there are certain individuals who actually like giving talks. > > However those willing to present regularly should take it upon > themselves to identify and bring in a new speaker (perhaps at their > workplace or from another user group). > > We can also directly ask those who have demonstrated the willingness > to speak in the past to come back again. The key is not to ask > "everyone," but to ask someone specifically. We can all think of at > least one person. And thanks to your hard work, we have over 10 years > of talks to look back on (!! :) > > > > >> group of presenters rather than each time trying to convince > >> someone new to step up. The reason I say this is because we have > >> a group of people who would certainly talk about (whatever) if > >> asked. I would, I know a few others who would (and do) regularly. > >> > >> We should absolutely seek out new speakers and highly encourage it, > >> but in my opinion it's a whole lot easier to generate talks if we > >> have a maintained list of topics and a group of people who we know > >> are > > > > I think the list of talks is a good idea. And, to some extent, we > > will always have a group of people who are willing to present on > > almost any topic. > > > > As a group, we have a lot more to say than _any_ small group of > > presenters. Personally, I would love to learn from the people who > > feel like they don't have much to say. They are often the ones who > > do presentations on topics no one else would have thought of. > > > > I'm not sure how to force these interesting people and topics to turn > up. I can only think of creating an environment that invites it. Or we > have to identify them outside of PM and directly ask them if they > could please come talk about something, anything. > > And like I said above, we have a lot of 1 time speakers who may be > willing to come back - their choice of topic. If they ask what they > can talk about, well we have a list we're keeping now. > > >> willing to talk (about anything.) This would also work well for > >> "lightning talk" meetings if we make sure the people who we know > >> will talk (about something) will show up. I think that focusing > >> on having a regular rotation of @speakers willing to talk about > >> @things (as determined by work we do to survey the group) is a > >> good recipe for building up regular attendance. > >> > >> (beware, blue sky tangent) > >> > >> At some point if we have some "go to" people and have built up > >> attendance (bc we're serving real needs), I think it'd be super > >> cool to take that leap and organize a bona fide 1 or 2 day Houston > >> Perl Workshop - especially considering that 2/4 of the YAPC::NA > >> sponsors that had tables are also sponsors of Houston.pm, I > >> imagine that we have that part covered pretty well. I say all of > >> this fully recognizing the fact that I am also volunteering to > >> play a large part in any effort to organize this. > > > > This sounds like a great idea. It is a lot of work, but it would be > > worth it to get more of the Perl people in Houston engaged with the > > group. > > > >> Thank you, > >> Brett > > > > Good thoughts, > > G. Wade > > I am going to try my theory about asking specific people if they'd be > willing to give a talk at a Houston.pm meeting. It may not pay off for > this coming meeting, but I think it might for future talks. > > Thanks, Wade. > > Brett > > > > >> > G. Wade > >> > > >> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:46 PM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Hi everyone, > >> >> > > >> >> > It's about 3 weeks to the next Houston.pm meeting on July 10 > >> >> > at cPanel. > >> >> > > >> >> > Does anyone have a topic they would like to present? > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there any kind of topic you guys would like to hear about? > >> >> > > >> >> > * Perl beginner > >> >> > - we've had a couple of these lately > >> >> > - ? > >> >> > * Perl advanced > >> >> > - ? > >> >> > * General programming > >> >> > - ? > >> >> > * Open Source projects we should know about > >> >> > - ? > >> >> > * Tools/environment > >> >> > - we haven't had editor presentations in a while > >> >> > - ? > >> >> > * Security > >> >> > - ? > >> >> > * Hardware > >> >> > - doing anything cool with hardware and Perl? > >> >> > - ? > >> >> > * Something unrelated to Perl, but still of interest to the > >> >> > group > >> >> > - Mind hacks > >> >> > - Making > >> >> > - ? > >> >> > > >> >> > Remember the quality of meetings is under your control. > >> >> > G. Wade > >> >> > -- > >> >> > It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't > >> >> > matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with > >> >> > experiment, it's wrong. -- Richard Feynman > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > Houston mailing list > >> >> > Houston at pm.org > >> >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > >> >> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Be a good ancestor. -- Jonas > >> > Salk _______________________________________________ > >> > Houston mailing list > >> > Houston at pm.org > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > >> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Houston mailing list > >> Houston at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > > > > -- > > Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more > > violent. It takes a touch of genius, and a lot of courage, to move > > in the opposite direction. -- Albert > > Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -- I have this feeling, that my luck is none too good. -- "Black Blade", Blue Oyster Cult From estrabd at gmail.com Sat Jun 28 22:03:19 2014 From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 00:03:19 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] tracking Houston.pm topics pool, available speakers, and archived talks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to Mark and Wade for contributing more, these very interesting topics have been merged. I added a couple more as well. If there are any Oil/Gas, Medical, Financial, eCommerce, Hosting, etc folks I'd like to get some input from you as well. Adding a topic doesn't mean you're on the hook for giving the talk. https://github.com/estrabd/houston-pm-topics-list Thank you, Brett On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 3:47 PM, B. Estrade wrote: > Just an update, Wade and Reini have contributed (thank you both very > much). I hope other can contribute or at least star it. You can also > just add your contributions as "issues" if you don't want to deal with > git (but still please star it =). > > https://github.com/estrabd/houston-pm-topics-list > > Thanks! > > Brett > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, B. Estrade wrote: >> Here you go, >> >> https://github.com/estrabd/houston-pm-topics-list >> >> The main file is the README.md - simple enough. >> >> Please fork it, update it, then issue a pull request if you wish to >> update it or tweak it. I am looking for any who are willing to be >> generally available for a talk (of their choosing) to also list their >> github user names in the top section. >> >> I hope this or some form of this catches on; I think it'll make things >> a ton easier. >> >> Likewise, if there is a topic you would like hear more about it, >> please add it to the available topics list. >> >> My plan is to list and link all past talks. I think seeing it all in >> one place will give us more ideas. >> >> Thank you, >> Brett From mikeflan at att.net Sun Jun 29 05:24:12 2014 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 07:24:12 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm: Call for presentation In-Reply-To: References: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> <20140624072841.5f5c1293@cygnus> Message-ID: <53B0056C.2050703@att.net> You guys are doing a great job of putting on quality meetings. I would encourage you to record the meetings on Utube like YAPC did. Mike On 6/28/2014 8:22 AM, B. Estrade via Houston wrote: I think there is something to Todd's idea that could work and not just be a bunch of geeks watching Youtube videos while sitting idle. Perhaps we could dedicate some time (5-10 min, max) to providing some "recommended videos" list. I know that inevitably there are talks that are and are not worth your time. Some of us could help compile this offline. Likewise, coming off the heels of YAPC, would it be worth brainstorming with the group to get a list of interesting topics that attendees might wish to hear or talk about? I have this half-brained idea that if we cultivate a list of "interesting topics," it might dawn on someone that their specialty/interest is also an interest of others. Once we get an initial list, I am happy to feed and water that list. I am interested in such a list, not just for Houston.pm, but as a general list that anyone looking for Perl talks could turn to to see what might be some interesting topics. Looking ahead .. Another approach that we might want to consider is that instead of collecting ideas or topics to present, is to proactively seek out a stable of individuals who want to present and who like to present. It seems like it'd be a lot easier to grow a core group of presenters rather than each time trying to convince someone new to step up. The reason I say this is because we have a group of people who would certainly talk about (whatever) if asked. I would, I know a few others who would (and do) regularly. We should absolutely seek out new speakers and highly encourage it, but in my opinion it's a whole lot easier to generate talks if we have a maintained list of topics and a group of people who we know are willing to talk (about anything.) This would also work well for "lightning talk" meetings if we make sure the people who we know will talk (about something) will show up. I think that focusing on having a regular rotation of @speakers willing to talk about @things (as determined by work we do to survey the group) is a good recipe for building up regular attendance. (beware, blue sky tangent) At some point if we have some "go to" people and have built up attendance (bc we're serving real needs), I think it'd be super cool to take that leap and organize a bona fide 1 or 2 day Houston Perl Workshop - especially considering that 2/4 of the YAPC::NA sponsors that had tables are also sponsors of Houston.pm, I imagine that we have that part covered pretty well. I say all of this fully recognizing the fact that I am also volunteering to play a large part in any effort to organize this. Thank you, Brett From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Jun 29 06:54:10 2014 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:54:10 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] July Houston.pm: Call for presentation In-Reply-To: <53B0056C.2050703@att.net> References: <20140620164645.169b2da8@cygnus> <20140624072841.5f5c1293@cygnus> <53B0056C.2050703@att.net> Message-ID: <20140629085410.2de6f9f4@cygnus> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 07:24:12 -0500 Mike Flannigan via Houston wrote: > > > You guys are doing a great job of putting on quality > meetings. I would encourage you to record the meetings > on Utube like YAPC did. We've been doing some of that lately. Todd has been driving that when he's available. We really need to get our process down so that it's repeatable. G. Wade > Mike > > > > On 6/28/2014 8:22 AM, B. Estrade via Houston wrote: > > I think there is something to Todd's idea that could work and not just > be a bunch of geeks watching Youtube videos while sitting idle. > > Perhaps we could dedicate some time (5-10 min, max) to providing some > "recommended videos" list. I know that inevitably there are talks > that are and are not worth your time. Some of us could help compile > this offline. > > Likewise, coming off the heels of YAPC, would it be worth > brainstorming with the group to get a list of interesting topics that > attendees might wish to hear or talk about? I have this half-brained > idea that if we cultivate a list of "interesting topics," it might > dawn on someone that their specialty/interest is also an interest of > others. Once we get an initial list, I am happy to feed and water that > list. I am interested in such a list, not just for Houston.pm, but as > a general list that anyone looking for Perl talks could turn to to see > what might be some interesting topics. > > Looking ahead .. Another approach that we might want to consider is > that instead of collecting ideas or topics to present, is to > proactively seek out a stable of individuals who want to present and > who like to present. It seems like it'd be a lot easier to grow a core > group of presenters rather than each time trying to convince someone > new to step up. The reason I say this is because we have a group of > people who would certainly talk about (whatever) if asked. I would, I > know a few others who would (and do) regularly. > > We should absolutely seek out new speakers and highly encourage it, > but in my opinion it's a whole lot easier to generate talks if we have > a maintained list of topics and a group of people who we know are > willing to talk (about anything.) This would also work well for > "lightning talk" meetings if we make sure the people who we know will > talk (about something) will show up. I think that focusing on having > a regular rotation of @speakers willing to talk about @things (as > determined by work we do to survey the group) is a good recipe for > building up regular attendance. > > (beware, blue sky tangent) > > At some point if we have some "go to" people and have built up > attendance (bc we're serving real needs), I think it'd be super cool > to take that leap and organize a bona fide 1 or 2 day Houston Perl > Workshop - especially considering that 2/4 of the YAPC::NA sponsors > that had tables are also sponsors of Houston.pm, I imagine that we > have that part covered pretty well. I say all of this fully > recognizing the fact that I am also volunteering to play a large part > in any effort to organize this. > > Thank you, > Brett > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -- "Very sad life. Probably also have sad death. But at least there is symmetry." -- Zathras From estrabd at gmail.com Mon Jun 30 15:41:13 2014 From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:41:13 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm talks repo update Message-ID: It's updated with links to all old talks, which is interesting to see all in one view. One thing that strikes me is that there are some repeated themes which are also present in our "possible talks" list. I had to do a force push, so if you forked it, you may want to just delete your old fork and create a new one. It contains all pull requests through yesterday evening. https://github.com/estrabd/houston-pm-topics-list Brett