From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Nov  3 05:21:57 2011
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 07:21:57 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] November Meeting
Message-ID: <20111103072157.01903c6e@cygnus>

This is a quick reminder that the meeting this month has been moved
from next Thursday (Nov. 10) to Thursday, Nov. 17.

I'll have a more official announcement very soon.

G. Wade

From estrabd at gmail.com  Fri Nov  4 10:26:52 2011
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:26:52 -0700
Subject: [pm-h] Special guest for November
In-Reply-To: <20111026201058.209eef86@cygnus>
References: <20111026201058.209eef86@cygnus>
Message-ID: <CALSf6fSY3M30xztP=PosGPzaZnrda668fuZsanxxP6HcEZXH5g@mail.gmail.com>

Saw this via Perlsphere - bdf is working on a Perl bibliography. Looks
like a great idea, and he's looking for contributions.

http://blogs.perl.org/users/brian_d_foy/2011/11/a-perl-bibliography.html

Brett

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:10 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
> All the details are not settled yet, but I can finally say that we will
> have a special guest for November: brian d foy.
>
> You may know brian as the author (or co-author) of several Perl books,
> including /Mastering Perl/, /Learning Perl/, /Intermediate Perl/,
> and /Effective Perl Programming/. He's the author of numerous Perl
> modules and a great speaker.
>
> Due to scheduling issues, brian will not be available on our normal
> meeting night (Nov. 10). He will be available on Nov 17.
>
> I'd like some input on whether we should just move the meeting, or have
> two meetings next month.
>
> I'd like to hear your opinions (on the list or directly).
> G. Wade
> --
> That which does not kill me makes me stranger. ? ? ? ?-- Larry Wall
> _______________________________________________
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> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sat Nov  5 19:00:41 2011
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:00:41 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
Message-ID: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>

Note that the meeting this month is on Thursday, Nov. 17, which is the
third Thursday of November. In December, we will return to our regular
schedule.

We have an unusual opportunity this month to have brian d foy talk to
the group. Many of you will recognize brian's name as the author of
several Perl books, including "Learning Perl", "Intermediate Perl",
"Mastering Perl", and "Effective Perl Programming". He also published
"The Perl Review". He has consulted and trained in Perl as a partner at
Stonehenge consulting.  

Since he is only in town for a couple of days in the third week of
November we are delaying the meeting by a week. This is a chance to
hear a real expert in Perl speak, and you don't want to miss it.

Although we always request that you RSVP if you plan to be there, this
time we may be packed. Let us know as soon as possible, if you plan to
attend.

As always, we will meet in the lobby at 3131 W. Alabama between 6:40
and 7pm. At which point we will go upstairs to the meeting. If you
arrive later than that, there is a phone in the lobby area that calls
the cPanel tech support team. They can get a message to us to come get
you.

G. Wade
-- 
Systems develop goals of their own the instant they come into being.
                                                        -- John Gall

From todd.e.rinaldo at gmail.com  Sun Nov  6 05:58:06 2011
From: todd.e.rinaldo at gmail.com (todd.e.rinaldo)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 07:58:06 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
In-Reply-To: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
References: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
Message-ID: <5AB2D13F-025B-437F-9B82-5CF6AF657BF1@gmail.com>



On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:00 PM, "G. Wade Johnson" <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

> -- 
> Systems develop goals of their own the instant they come into being.
>                                                        -- John Gall

Isn't that supposed to be John Conner?

From will.willis at gmail.com  Sun Nov  6 11:16:26 2011
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:16:26 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
In-Reply-To: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
References: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
Message-ID: <CAFT=-5rCAeQAF67BVt8q08q9Hq1+kt3FkKm1kcE-WPuW9SNGuQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be there. Do you know if brian has decided on a topic yet?

Will
On Nov 5, 2011 9:01 PM, "G. Wade Johnson" <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

> Note that the meeting this month is on Thursday, Nov. 17, which is the
> third Thursday of November. In December, we will return to our regular
> schedule.
>
> We have an unusual opportunity this month to have brian d foy talk to
> the group. Many of you will recognize brian's name as the author of
> several Perl books, including "Learning Perl", "Intermediate Perl",
> "Mastering Perl", and "Effective Perl Programming". He also published
> "The Perl Review". He has consulted and trained in Perl as a partner at
> Stonehenge consulting.
>
> Since he is only in town for a couple of days in the third week of
> November we are delaying the meeting by a week. This is a chance to
> hear a real expert in Perl speak, and you don't want to miss it.
>
> Although we always request that you RSVP if you plan to be there, this
> time we may be packed. Let us know as soon as possible, if you plan to
> attend.
>
> As always, we will meet in the lobby at 3131 W. Alabama between 6:40
> and 7pm. At which point we will go upstairs to the meeting. If you
> arrive later than that, there is a phone in the lobby area that calls
> the cPanel tech support team. They can get a message to us to come get
> you.
>
> G. Wade
> --
> Systems develop goals of their own the instant they come into being.
>                                                        -- John Gall
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Nov  6 11:43:02 2011
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:43:02 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
In-Reply-To: <CAFT=-5rCAeQAF67BVt8q08q9Hq1+kt3FkKm1kcE-WPuW9SNGuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
	<CAFT=-5rCAeQAF67BVt8q08q9Hq1+kt3FkKm1kcE-WPuW9SNGuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20111106134302.3712ec53@cygnus>

On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:16:26 -0600
Will Willis <will.willis at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll be there. Do you know if brian has decided on a topic yet?

He's busy getting another Perl book out the door, so I haven't been
able to get a commitment on the topic. But, I'll keep the group posted
as soon as I know.

G. Wade

> On Nov 5, 2011 9:01 PM, "G. Wade Johnson" <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
> 
> > Note that the meeting this month is on Thursday, Nov. 17, which is
> > the third Thursday of November. In December, we will return to our
> > regular schedule.
> >
> > We have an unusual opportunity this month to have brian d foy talk
> > to the group. Many of you will recognize brian's name as the author
> > of several Perl books, including "Learning Perl", "Intermediate
> > Perl", "Mastering Perl", and "Effective Perl Programming". He also
> > published "The Perl Review". He has consulted and trained in Perl
> > as a partner at Stonehenge consulting.
> >
> > Since he is only in town for a couple of days in the third week of
> > November we are delaying the meeting by a week. This is a chance to
> > hear a real expert in Perl speak, and you don't want to miss it.
> >
> > Although we always request that you RSVP if you plan to be there,
> > this time we may be packed. Let us know as soon as possible, if you
> > plan to attend.
> >
> > As always, we will meet in the lobby at 3131 W. Alabama between 6:40
> > and 7pm. At which point we will go upstairs to the meeting. If you
> > arrive later than that, there is a phone in the lobby area that
> > calls the cPanel tech support team. They can get a message to us to
> > come get you.
> >
> > G. Wade
> > --
> > Systems develop goals of their own the instant they come into being.
> >                                                        -- John Gall
> > _______________________________________________
> > Houston mailing list
> > Houston at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >


-- 
It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how
smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
                                                  -- Richard Feynman

From zappepcs at gmail.com  Sun Nov  6 12:19:08 2011
From: zappepcs at gmail.com (S Z)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:19:08 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
In-Reply-To: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
References: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
Message-ID: <CADaSRu3djHj9ojn9Y3c1NshfMwWRUikPE1ocEiCk9-CyuMECug@mail.gmail.com>

I'm planning on being there... no matter what his topic is :-)

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:00 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

> Note that the meeting this month is on Thursday, Nov. 17, which is the
> third Thursday of November. In December, we will return to our regular
> schedule.
>
> We have an unusual opportunity this month to have brian d foy talk to
> the group. Many of you will recognize brian's name as the author of
> several Perl books, including "Learning Perl", "Intermediate Perl",
> "Mastering Perl", and "Effective Perl Programming". He also published
> "The Perl Review". He has consulted and trained in Perl as a partner at
> Stonehenge consulting.
>
> Since he is only in town for a couple of days in the third week of
> November we are delaying the meeting by a week. This is a chance to
> hear a real expert in Perl speak, and you don't want to miss it.
>
> Although we always request that you RSVP if you plan to be there, this
> time we may be packed. Let us know as soon as possible, if you plan to
> attend.
>
> As always, we will meet in the lobby at 3131 W. Alabama between 6:40
> and 7pm. At which point we will go upstairs to the meeting. If you
> arrive later than that, there is a phone in the lobby area that calls
> the cPanel tech support team. They can get a message to us to come get
> you.
>
> G. Wade
> --
> Systems develop goals of their own the instant they come into being.
>                                                        -- John Gall
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From houstonpm at chromaxs.com  Sun Nov  6 12:20:52 2011
From: houstonpm at chromaxs.com (Christopher Eades)
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:20:52 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
In-Reply-To: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
References: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
Message-ID: <4EB6EC24.10700@chromaxs.com>

I'll be there with another.

G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> Note that the meeting this month is on Thursday, Nov. 17, which is the
> third Thursday of November. In December, we will return to our regular
> schedule.
> 
> We have an unusual opportunity this month to have brian d foy talk to
> the group. Many of you will recognize brian's name as the author of
> several Perl books, including "Learning Perl", "Intermediate Perl",
> "Mastering Perl", and "Effective Perl Programming". He also published
> "The Perl Review". He has consulted and trained in Perl as a partner at
> Stonehenge consulting.  
> 
> Since he is only in town for a couple of days in the third week of
> November we are delaying the meeting by a week. This is a chance to
> hear a real expert in Perl speak, and you don't want to miss it.
> 
> Although we always request that you RSVP if you plan to be there, this
> time we may be packed. Let us know as soon as possible, if you plan to
> attend.
> 
> As always, we will meet in the lobby at 3131 W. Alabama between 6:40
> and 7pm. At which point we will go upstairs to the meeting. If you
> arrive later than that, there is a phone in the lobby area that calls
> the cPanel tech support team. They can get a message to us to come get
> you.
> 
> G. Wade

From estrabd at gmail.com  Sun Nov  6 13:00:59 2011
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 15:00:59 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
In-Reply-To: <4EB6EC24.10700@chromaxs.com>
References: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus> <4EB6EC24.10700@chromaxs.com>
Message-ID: <20111106210059.GC75594@x2045.x.rootbsd.net>

On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 02:20:52PM -0600, Christopher Eades wrote:
> I'll be there with another.

I'll be there.

Brett

> 
> G. Wade Johnson wrote:
>>Note that the meeting this month is on Thursday, Nov. 17, which is the

From mrallen1 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  6 13:10:37 2011
From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 15:10:37 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
In-Reply-To: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
References: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
Message-ID: <78494B76-B41E-4E85-8652-9C67A6654590@yahoo.com>

I am planning to attend. Thanks!

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:00 PM, "G. Wade Johnson" <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

>  Let us know as soon as possible, if you plan to attend.

From jperkins at hostgator.com  Sun Nov  6 14:38:25 2011
From: jperkins at hostgator.com (Jacob P)
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:38:25 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
In-Reply-To: <78494B76-B41E-4E85-8652-9C67A6654590@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <a702b3c2-f005-414f-ad56-759a082ef7a7@zimbra.hostgator.com>

I'll be there with a friend :)

----- Original Message -----
I am planning to attend. Thanks!

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:00 PM, "G. Wade Johnson" <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

>  Let us know as soon as possible, if you plan to attend.
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From abaezjob at gmail.com  Mon Nov  7 14:05:37 2011
From: abaezjob at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Abraham_B=E1ez?=)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:05:37 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
In-Reply-To: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
References: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
Message-ID: <CA+KSHX9GvRONHXcjOMzdV1wWrErLLZV_zRnA-TUHBi8b0NG_2Q@mail.gmail.com>

I plan to attend, Abraham

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:00 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

> Note that the meeting this month is on Thursday, Nov. 17, which is the
> third Thursday of November. In December, we will return to our regular
> schedule.
>
> We have an unusual opportunity this month to have brian d foy talk to
> the group. Many of you will recognize brian's name as the author of
> several Perl books, including "Learning Perl", "Intermediate Perl",
> "Mastering Perl", and "Effective Perl Programming". He also published
> "The Perl Review". He has consulted and trained in Perl as a partner at
> Stonehenge consulting.
>
> Since he is only in town for a couple of days in the third week of
> November we are delaying the meeting by a week. This is a chance to
> hear a real expert in Perl speak, and you don't want to miss it.
>
> Although we always request that you RSVP if you plan to be there, this
> time we may be packed. Let us know as soon as possible, if you plan to
> attend.
>
> As always, we will meet in the lobby at 3131 W. Alabama between 6:40
> and 7pm. At which point we will go upstairs to the meeting. If you
> arrive later than that, there is a phone in the lobby area that calls
> the cPanel tech support team. They can get a message to us to come get
> you.
>
> G. Wade
> --
> Systems develop goals of their own the instant they come into being.
>                                                        -- John Gall
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>



-- 
Abraham Baez
281.821.0101 Cellular
"Abraham Baez" < abaezjob at gmail.com >
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From rasto at cm4msaa7.com  Mon Nov  7 16:58:50 2011
From: rasto at cm4msaa7.com (lee latham)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 18:58:50 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
In-Reply-To: <CA+KSHX9GvRONHXcjOMzdV1wWrErLLZV_zRnA-TUHBi8b0NG_2Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20111105210041.09b45427@cygnus>
	<CA+KSHX9GvRONHXcjOMzdV1wWrErLLZV_zRnA-TUHBi8b0NG_2Q@mail.gmail.com>
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me too, as usual.
plan to, that is lol
lee

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Abraham B?ez <abaezjob at gmail.com> wrote:
> I plan to attend, Abraham
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:00 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
>>
>> Note that the meeting this month is on Thursday, Nov. 17, which is the
>> third Thursday of November. In December, we will return to our regular
>> schedule.
>>
>> We have an unusual opportunity this month to have brian d foy talk to
>> the group. Many of you will recognize brian's name as the author of
>> several Perl books, including "Learning Perl", "Intermediate Perl",
>> "Mastering Perl", and "Effective Perl Programming". He also published
>> "The Perl Review". He has consulted and trained in Perl as a partner at
>> Stonehenge consulting.
>>
>> Since he is only in town for a couple of days in the third week of
>> November we are delaying the meeting by a week. This is a chance to
>> hear a real expert in Perl speak, and you don't want to miss it.
>>
>> Although we always request that you RSVP if you plan to be there, this
>> time we may be packed. Let us know as soon as possible, if you plan to
>> attend.
>>
>> As always, we will meet in the lobby at 3131 W. Alabama between 6:40
>> and 7pm. At which point we will go upstairs to the meeting. If you
>> arrive later than that, there is a phone in the lobby area that calls
>> the cPanel tech support team. They can get a message to us to come get
>> you.
>>
>> G. Wade
>> --
>> Systems develop goals of their own the instant they come into being.
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-- John Gall
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
>
>
> --
> Abraham Baez
> 281.821.0101 Cellular
> "Abraham Baez" < abaezjob at gmail.com >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From brivera001 at gmail.com  Tue Nov  8 18:27:41 2011
From: brivera001 at gmail.com (Bryan Rivera)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 20:27:41 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Houston Digest, Vol 84, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1320782412.1244.houston@pm.org>
References: <mailman.9.1320782412.1244.houston@pm.org>
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I'll be there.

-bry

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> To: "Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." <houston at pm.org>,
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> I plan to attend, Abraham
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:00 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Note that the meeting this month is on Thursday, Nov. 17, which is the
> > third Thursday of November. In December, we will return to our regular
> > schedule.
> >
> > We have an unusual opportunity this month to have brian d foy talk to
> > the group. Many of you will recognize brian's name as the author of
> > several Perl books, including "Learning Perl", "Intermediate Perl",
> > "Mastering Perl", and "Effective Perl Programming". He also published
> > "The Perl Review". He has consulted and trained in Perl as a partner at
> > Stonehenge consulting.
> >
> > Since he is only in town for a couple of days in the third week of
> > November we are delaying the meeting by a week. This is a chance to
> > hear a real expert in Perl speak, and you don't want to miss it.
> >
> > Although we always request that you RSVP if you plan to be there, this
> > time we may be packed. Let us know as soon as possible, if you plan to
> > attend.
> >
> > As always, we will meet in the lobby at 3131 W. Alabama between 6:40
> > and 7pm. At which point we will go upstairs to the meeting. If you
> > arrive later than that, there is a phone in the lobby area that calls
> > the cPanel tech support team. They can get a message to us to come get
> > you.
> >
> > G. Wade
> > --
> > Systems develop goals of their own the instant they come into being.
> >                                                        -- John Gall
> > _______________________________________________
> > Houston mailing list
> > Houston at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Abraham Baez
> 281.821.0101 Cellular
> "Abraham Baez" < abaezjob at gmail.com >
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> Subject: Re: [pm-h] Houston.pm November meeting with brian d foy
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> me too, as usual.
> plan to, that is lol
> lee
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Abraham B?ez <abaezjob at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I plan to attend, Abraham
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:00 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Note that the meeting this month is on Thursday, Nov. 17, which is the
> >> third Thursday of November. In December, we will return to our regular
> >> schedule.
> >>
> >> We have an unusual opportunity this month to have brian d foy talk to
> >> the group. Many of you will recognize brian's name as the author of
> >> several Perl books, including "Learning Perl", "Intermediate Perl",
> >> "Mastering Perl", and "Effective Perl Programming". He also published
> >> "The Perl Review". He has consulted and trained in Perl as a partner at
> >> Stonehenge consulting.
> >>
> >> Since he is only in town for a couple of days in the third week of
> >> November we are delaying the meeting by a week. This is a chance to
> >> hear a real expert in Perl speak, and you don't want to miss it.
> >>
> >> Although we always request that you RSVP if you plan to be there, this
> >> time we may be packed. Let us know as soon as possible, if you plan to
> >> attend.
> >>
> >> As always, we will meet in the lobby at 3131 W. Alabama between 6:40
> >> and 7pm. At which point we will go upstairs to the meeting. If you
> >> arrive later than that, there is a phone in the lobby area that calls
> >> the cPanel tech support team. They can get a message to us to come get
> >> you.
> >>
> >> G. Wade
> >> --
> >> Systems develop goals of their own the instant they come into being.
> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-- John Gall
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Houston mailing list
> >> Houston at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Abraham Baez
> > 281.821.0101 Cellular
> > "Abraham Baez" < abaezjob at gmail.com >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Houston mailing list
> > Houston at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
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> End of Houston Digest, Vol 84, Issue 5
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>



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From estrabd at gmail.com  Thu Nov 10 09:47:56 2011
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:47:56 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl one liners, part 7
Message-ID: <20111110174756.GP91466@x2045.x.rootbsd.net>

The latest in @pkrumins' series:

	http://catonmat.net/blog/perl-one-liners-explained-part-seven/

Brett

-- 
B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com>

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Nov 17 10:19:37 2011
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (gwadej at anomaly.org)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:19:37 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November meeting late access
Message-ID: <5c1b9340a597d51ff308d1197104f18d@anomaly.org>

We have a phone number to call if you are late to the meeting and need 
to be let into the building.

For tonight, you can call 832-356-9581 if no one is downstairs and 
someone will come to let you in.

G. Wade

From abaezjob at gmail.com  Thu Nov 17 13:43:01 2011
From: abaezjob at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Abraham_B=E1ez?=)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:43:01 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November meeting late access
In-Reply-To: <5c1b9340a597d51ff308d1197104f18d@anomaly.org>
References: <5c1b9340a597d51ff308d1197104f18d@anomaly.org>
Message-ID: <CA+KSHX-gV2h8K62zzL_b4kw2ch79smJZBkQ1J-o_f3EE3Feo0A@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent idea, well done and yes, I plan to be early to the meeting (life
is full of contradictions, isn't it?), thanks, Abraham [?]

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:19 PM, <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

> We have a phone number to call if you are late to the meeting and need to
> be let into the building.
>
> For tonight, you can call 832-356-9581 if no one is downstairs and
> someone will come to let you in.
>
> G. Wade
> ______________________________**_________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/**listinfo/houston<http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston>
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>



-- 
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281.821.0101 Cellular
"Abraham Baez" < abaezjob at gmail.com >
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From mrallen1 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 18 07:40:22 2011
From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:40:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [pm-h] November meeting late access
In-Reply-To: <5c1b9340a597d51ff308d1197104f18d@anomaly.org>
References: <5c1b9340a597d51ff308d1197104f18d@anomaly.org>
Message-ID: <1321630822.76127.YahooMailNeo@web65806.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Thanks to CPanel and Brian for the meeting last night. It was really cool to see some of Brian's favorite tricks. ?Safe travels back to Chicago.

Mark


________________________________
 From: "gwadej at anomaly.org" <gwadej at anomaly.org>
To: houston at pm.org 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:19 PM
Subject: [pm-h] November meeting late access
 
We have a phone number to call if you are late to the meeting and need to be let into the building.

For tonight, you can call 832-356-9581 if no one is downstairs and someone will come to let you in.

G. Wade
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From estrabd at gmail.com  Fri Nov 18 07:42:52 2011
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:42:52 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November meeting late access
In-Reply-To: <1321630822.76127.YahooMailNeo@web65806.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <5c1b9340a597d51ff308d1197104f18d@anomaly.org>
	<1321630822.76127.YahooMailNeo@web65806.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20111118154252.GE18627@x2045.x.rootbsd.net>

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 07:40:22AM -0800, Mark Allen wrote:
> Thanks to CPanel and Brian for the meeting last night. It was really cool to see some of Brian's favorite tricks. ?Safe travels back to Chicago.

Unfortunately I was unable to attend last night even though I thought
I could initially. I was fortunate enough to spend two days in the
classroom with brian, so I didn't completely miss out :).

I know that talk was based on a YAPC one brian had given - so is this
YAPC version available online anywhere? Or did anyone happen to record
last night's?

Thank you,
Brett

> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: "gwadej at anomaly.org" <gwadej at anomaly.org>
> To: houston at pm.org 
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:19 PM
> Subject: [pm-h] November meeting late access
>  
> We have a phone number to call if you are late to the meeting and need to be let into the building.
> 
> For tonight, you can call 832-356-9581 if no one is downstairs and someone will come to let you in.
> 
> G. Wade
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/

-- 
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From kevin at shaum.com  Fri Nov 18 12:38:00 2011
From: kevin at shaum.com (Kevin Shaum)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:38:00 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November meeting late access
In-Reply-To: <20111118154252.GE18627@x2045.x.rootbsd.net>
References: <5c1b9340a597d51ff308d1197104f18d@anomaly.org>
	<1321630822.76127.YahooMailNeo@web65806.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<20111118154252.GE18627@x2045.x.rootbsd.net>
Message-ID: <CACDHR=CPwuHe8r-BbbPpPJ48hmM+Pqh90aqbjv1Dp8tq8r-ssA@mail.gmail.com>

It was based on a talk he gave at YAPC::Brasil.

http://www.slideshare.net/brian_d_foy/bag-of-tricks

I don't know if there's video of it anywhere.


On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM, B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 07:40:22AM -0800, Mark Allen wrote:
>> Thanks to CPanel and Brian for the meeting last night. It was really cool to see some of Brian's favorite tricks. ?Safe travels back to Chicago.
>
> Unfortunately I was unable to attend last night even though I thought
> I could initially. I was fortunate enough to spend two days in the
> classroom with brian, so I didn't completely miss out :).
>
> I know that talk was based on a YAPC one brian had given - so is this
> YAPC version available online anywhere? Or did anyone happen to record
> last night's?
>
> Thank you,
> Brett
>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> ?From: "gwadej at anomaly.org" <gwadej at anomaly.org>
>> To: houston at pm.org
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:19 PM
>> Subject: [pm-h] November meeting late access
>>
>> We have a phone number to call if you are late to the meeting and need to be let into the building.
>>
>> For tonight, you can call 832-356-9581 if no one is downstairs and someone will come to let you in.
>>
>> G. Wade
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
> --
> B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>



-- 
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http://shaum.com/

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Nov 18 15:44:45 2011
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:44:45 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November meeting late access
In-Reply-To: <CACDHR=CPwuHe8r-BbbPpPJ48hmM+Pqh90aqbjv1Dp8tq8r-ssA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c1b9340a597d51ff308d1197104f18d@anomaly.org>
	<1321630822.76127.YahooMailNeo@web65806.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<20111118154252.GE18627@x2045.x.rootbsd.net>
	<CACDHR=CPwuHe8r-BbbPpPJ48hmM+Pqh90aqbjv1Dp8tq8r-ssA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20111118174445.5a2c6cbc@cygnus>

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:38:00 -0600
Kevin Shaum <kevin at shaum.com> wrote:

> It was based on a talk he gave at YAPC::Brasil.
> 
> http://www.slideshare.net/brian_d_foy/bag-of-tricks
> 
> I don't know if there's video of it anywhere.

The slideshow will be linked on the talk page on houston.pm.org when I
get my notes on line, so you should be able to find it at any time.

G. Wade
 
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM, B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 07:40:22AM -0800, Mark Allen wrote:
> >> Thanks to CPanel and Brian for the meeting last night. It was
> >> really cool to see some of Brian's favorite tricks. ?Safe travels
> >> back to Chicago.
> >
> > Unfortunately I was unable to attend last night even though I
> > thought I could initially. I was fortunate enough to spend two days
> > in the classroom with brian, so I didn't completely miss out :).
> >
> > I know that talk was based on a YAPC one brian had given - so is
> > this YAPC version available online anywhere? Or did anyone happen
> > to record last night's?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Brett
> >
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> ?From: "gwadej at anomaly.org" <gwadej at anomaly.org>
> >> To: houston at pm.org
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:19 PM
> >> Subject: [pm-h] November meeting late access
> >>
> >> We have a phone number to call if you are late to the meeting and
> >> need to be let into the building.
> >>
> >> For tonight, you can call 832-356-9581 if no one is downstairs and
> >> someone will come to let you in.
> >>
> >> G. Wade
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Houston mailing list
> >> Houston at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Houston mailing list
> >> Houston at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >
> > --
> > B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Houston mailing list
> > Houston at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >
> 
> 
> 


-- 
That which does not kill me makes me stranger.        -- Larry Wall

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Nov 18 22:19:16 2011
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:19:16 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] The Perl Cookbook project - update
Message-ID: <20111119001916.1c2cf756@cygnus>

I apologize for going dark for so long after mentioning the idea on the
list. I finally have enough information that I really feel like I have
something to report. Unfortunately, that means a big update. So, I
apologize for that as well.

I have been talking with contacts at O'Reilly and they are quite
enthusiastic about the project. We have been working on a few pieces of
the puzzle from a technical point of view to determine how we could
edit both the code and discussion parts of the recipes collectively.

Since the details have not been fully worked out, they are not yet
willing to open up what we have been playing with to the world at
large. I may be optimistic (which might be a first for me), but I think
it's quite possible we will have something that multiple people can
work with in the not too distant future.

The current approach is based on (a private) github repo. But, this
should prove up the ability for many of us to work on recipes
collaboratively. We are also playing with a wiki approach to simplify
keeping the files in a format that is easy for O'Reilly to publish.

I've also had a conversation with Nat and Tom. They are currently
wrapping up the next edition of Programming Perl, so they not
enthusiastic about adding to the pile at this moment. After some
discussion, they understand we are not looking to "take away" the
cookbook as a community. Nat is planning to look into the logistics of
how this would impact a next edition of the Cookbook. 

All in all, I'm hoping we will be able to start working on this soon.
It's going slower than I had hoped. But, it also hasn't turned into a
big disaster like I sort of expected.

There have also been several potential spin-offs of this idea that I've
discussed at length. I see the following potential goals to pursue:

* Provide updated information on some subset of the current Cookbook
  recipes. This includes the idea that Nat and Tom might use some of
  our ideas and input in their next update of the book
* A community project that can help spread the fundamentals of Perl
  coding to junior members of our PM groups.
* Possibility of building other cookbooks targeted at other areas of
  Perl usage besides the core information contained in the main Perl
  Cookbook.

The last is one of those ideas where I really think the community could
provide a completely new benefit while relieving the main Perl Cookbook
from the burden of covering too much.

I'll keep the group posted as I learn anything that I can spread around.

G. Wade
-- 
There are two ways to write error-free programs; only the third one
works. -- Alan Perlis

From estrabd at gmail.com  Sat Nov 19 09:53:20 2011
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:53:20 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] The Perl Cookbook project - update
In-Reply-To: <20111119001916.1c2cf756@cygnus>
References: <20111119001916.1c2cf756@cygnus>
Message-ID: <20111119175320.GA34067@x2045.x.rootbsd.net>

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:19:16AM -0600, G. Wade Johnson wrote:

<snip>

> The current approach is based on (a private) github repo. But,
> this should prove up the ability for many of us to work on recipes
> collaboratively. We are also playing with a wiki approach to simplify
> keeping the files in a format that is easy for O'Reilly to publish.

Before I say this, I know that O'Reilly has been in this game a long time,
and I am sure they have a proven method far better than what I am about to
suggest. That said, here we go.

Having been involved with technical specification documentation in the
past that has included a ton of code examples (as many of you have)
- some of which were purposefully broken/incorrect/naive, I can tell you
that the #1 lesson I have learned is that you need to have a single set
of code sources that can be maintained and tested/validated as easily
possible. Otherwise, you're pretty much up a creek when it comes to
ensuring correctness in the final product.

We can create tools that target the code examples/snippets to whatever
presentation layer we want - be it a wiki or the publishing source.

Regarding the wiki, I think they are fine for collaboration (or are they
better for "write once"? :); but I would find a cookbook maintained in
such a way that code examples are locked-in to be the wrong approach. It
is far easier to transform code into formats suitable for a presentation
layer than it is to have to extract code from some kind of mark up.

Ultimately, my point is this - I think if there is just a private Github
repo for this purpose, then that is all we need to get started.

If we focused on creating a code base that is logical and consistent in
it's structure (and therefore easy to test/validate), then when the time
comes it'll be easy enough to write scripts to transform the code into
forms suitable for publishing sources.

As a side note, I think that creating recipes using brian d foy's
"modulino" approach would work very well for us.

Finally, Wade, thank you for pursuing this!

Brett

<snip> > > G. Wade -- There are two ways to write error-free
> programs; only the third one works. -- Alan Perlis >
_______________________________________________ Houston mailing list >
Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: >
http://houston.pm.org/

-- B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com>

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sat Nov 19 14:43:32 2011
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:43:32 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] The Perl Cookbook project - update
In-Reply-To: <20111119175320.GA34067@x2045.x.rootbsd.net>
References: <20111119001916.1c2cf756@cygnus>
	<20111119175320.GA34067@x2045.x.rootbsd.net>
Message-ID: <20111119164332.3b02f87a@cygnus>

Hi Brett,

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:53:20 -0600
"B. Estrade" <estrabd at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:19:16AM -0600, G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > The current approach is based on (a private) github repo. But,
> > this should prove up the ability for many of us to work on recipes
> > collaboratively. We are also playing with a wiki approach to
> > simplify keeping the files in a format that is easy for O'Reilly to
> > publish.
> 
> Before I say this, I know that O'Reilly has been in this game a long
> time, and I am sure they have a proven method far better than what I
> am about to suggest. That said, here we go.
> 
> Having been involved with technical specification documentation in the
> past that has included a ton of code examples (as many of you have)
> - some of which were purposefully broken/incorrect/naive, I can tell
> you that the #1 lesson I have learned is that you need to have a
> single set of code sources that can be maintained and
> tested/validated as easily possible. Otherwise, you're pretty much up
> a creek when it comes to ensuring correctness in the final product.

I've worked on similar projects and understand your concerns. I was
trying to avoid too much detail, given the quantity of information that
I had already written, but...

The current sources for the Perl Cookbook are available internally in a
format that O'Reilly could make available on github, if we decide to go
that route.

O'Reilly has already done another project (the Android Cookbook) in
more of a wiki style (http://androidcookbook.com/home.seam). Since the
original Perl Cookbook was not done in this style, conversion could add
to the work that is needed.

So, at the current stage, we are experimenting a bit while the authors
and publishers are working out the details of how they are willing to
allow this to be done.

> We can create tools that target the code examples/snippets to whatever
> presentation layer we want - be it a wiki or the publishing source.
> 
> Regarding the wiki, I think they are fine for collaboration (or are
> they better for "write once"? :); but I would find a cookbook
> maintained in such a way that code examples are locked-in to be the
> wrong approach. It is far easier to transform code into formats
> suitable for a presentation layer than it is to have to extract code
> from some kind of mark up.

I've worked both ways. One of the downsides of keeping the code
separate and including it in the docs is the tendency of the code and
documentation to drift relative to each other. As in almost every
programming endeavor there seems to be no "one, true way" only
trade-offs.

> Ultimately, my point is this - I think if there is just a private
> Github repo for this purpose, then that is all we need to get started.
> 
> If we focused on creating a code base that is logical and consistent
> in it's structure (and therefore easy to test/validate), then when
> the time comes it'll be easy enough to write scripts to transform the
> code into forms suitable for publishing sources.
> 
> As a side note, I think that creating recipes using brian d foy's
> "modulino" approach would work very well for us.

A lot of the recipes in the cookbook covered really small tasks
(opening a file, searching an array, uppercasing a string, etc.) In
these cases a modulino is overkill. Comparing all of the programming
cookbooks I've read, I would say that the Perl Cookbook is one of the
most useful to more junior people for this reason.

We more seasoned Perl programmers can extract the kernel of useful code
from the framework around it. But, likewise, we can also add that extra
code as needed. More junior developers usually find the simpler
examples easier.

One of the things I am hoping for the community to be able to do with
this is make multiple cookbooks. I was thinking in terms of multiple
areas of programming with the main Perl Cookbook as the foundation.
But, now that you've mentioned it, layering cookbooks in terms of
experience may also be useful.

> Finally, Wade, thank you for pursuing this!

I'm really still not sure what I've gotten myself into.<shrug/>

G. Wade

> Brett
> 
> <snip> > > G. Wade -- There are two ways to write error-free
> > programs; only the third one works. -- Alan Perlis >
> _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list >
> Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: >
> http://houston.pm.org/
> 
> -- B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/


-- 
Cannot say. Saying I would know, do not know, so cannot say.
                                  -- Zathras - "The War without End"

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Nov 20 21:18:32 2011
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:18:32 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November Houston.pm notes are on-line
Message-ID: <20111120231832.5331f742@cygnus>

http://houston.pm.org/talks/2011talks/1111Talk/index.html

G. Wade
-- 
Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity.
                                                   -- Alvy Ray Smith

From estrabd at gmail.com  Wed Nov 23 09:05:13 2011
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:05:13 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Qore 0.8.3 now in FreeBSD ports
Message-ID: <20111123170513.GL34067@x2045.x.rootbsd.net>

In case anyone is interested, I they finally committed my Ports update
for lang/qore; so it's up to 0.8.3.

	http://www.freshports.org/lang/qore/

Qore 0.8.3 change log:

	http://www.qore.org/release-notes-mainmenu-17/184-qore-083-release-notes	

Note, however, the Ports version jumped from 0.8.0 to 0.8.3, so:

	http://www.qore.org/release-notes-mainmenu-17/180-qore-082-release-notes
	http://www.qore.org/release-notes-mainmenu-17/171-qore-081-release-notes

None of the Qore modules are in FBSD Ports and I don't intend on
creating them, so if you find Qore on FreeBSD useful, you might want
to think about creating the port(s) yourself. It's not that difficult
and usually a pretty enjoyable exercise. 

It and all of its modules are in MacPorts, but I don't maintain that one -

	http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=name&substr=Qore

To see the full list of ways to get Qore on your boxen, look at their
downloads page:

	http://www.qore.org/downloads-mainmenu-15

And if you're wondering what the heck Qore has to do with Perl, please see
the intro talk I gave in September:

	http://houston.pm.org/talks/2011talks/1109Talk/index.html

Thank you,
Brett

-- 
B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com>

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Nov 27 19:56:21 2011
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:56:21 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] December Houston.pm meeting
Message-ID: <20111127215621.76145599@cygnus>

Traditionally, in December we've had a social meeting. Lately, we've
been having them at the Black Labrador (http://blacklabradorpub.com/)
on Monrose at Richmond.

If no one has a better idea, I'll reserve us space for December 8.

G. Wade
-- 
Contrary to popular opinion, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'fact'.