From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Apr  2 05:06:39 2009
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:06:39 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] Summer of Code Student Deadline
Message-ID: <20090402070639.1786dfc7@sovvan>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:00:32 -0700
From: Eric Wilhelm <scratchcomputing at gmail.com>
To: pm_groups at pm.org
Cc: Jonathan Leto <jaleto at gmail.com>
Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Code Student Deadline


Hi all,

Thanks to Josh McAdams, we have a video for you to pass along to your 
local students:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-utZ2cA9r-E

If you are a student and interested in Open Source, now is the time to 
act to get involved in Google's wonderful Summer of Code program.

  http://code.google.com/soc/

Each year, Google offers students the opportunity to spend their summer 
vacation coding rather than flipping burgers.  You propose a project, 
and if selected, you're assigned a mentor and provided with a stipend.  
It is a competitive program to get into, but offers an amazing amount 
of real-world experience and the ability to get seriously involved in 
an open source project of your choosing.  The Perl Foundation spans a 
wide variety of projects including Perl 5, Perl 6, and Parrot with many 
great mentors signed-up to help you succeed.

And the deadline is fast approaching (noon (PDT) on Friday!)

  http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?gsoc


Thanks,
Eric


-- 
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance. -- Laurence J. Peter

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Apr  2 14:38:46 2009
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:38:46 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: UG News: Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention
	(OSCON)
Message-ID: <20090402163846.7dfcb09d@sovvan>

Hi--

OSCON Registration is open. Here's a discount you can pass along to your
members through your mailing list or at your meetings:


The 2009 O'Reilly Open Source Convention Moves to San Jose, CA--
Registration Now Open, So Make Your Plans.

In trying times such as these, saving money becomes a bigger priority
for everyone. While challenging, the current global situation provides
the open source community with the opportunity to sustain, apply, and
expand open source to change the world.

Use code "os09usrg" when you register, and receive 20% off
the registration price.?Early registration ends on?June 2.

To register for the conference, go to:
<https://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/register?CMP=EMC-conf_os09_int&ATT=UG2>

OSCON 2009
July 20-24, 2009
San Jose McEnery Convention Center
150 West San Carlos St.
San Jose, CA 95113


Follow OSCON on your favorite social networking site:

Facebook
<http://www.facebook.com/group.php?sid=c5f0378360e460dfc41fe2d2b0a86e9d&gid=117291255480>

Twitter (or look for #OSCON)
<http://twitter.com/oscon>

Identi.ca
<http://identi.ca/oscon>

LinkedIn
<http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1310437&trk=hb_side_g>


Hope to see you there,


Marsee

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From mikeflan at att.net  Thu Apr  2 19:19:30 2009
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:19:30 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Strip Links from FTP
Message-ID: <49D57232.5010208@att.net>


Anybody know how to strip links from an FTP site?
The script below works good on HTTP sites, but
has rarely or never worked for me on FTP sites. 


#
#
# This script strips all links from the $html website.
#
#
use strict;
use warnings;

use LWP::Simple;
use HTML::TreeBuilder;


#my $html = get 'http://www.census.gov/geo/www/cob/co2000.html';
my $html = get 'ftp://mcmcftp.er.usgs.gov/Katrina/508dpi/';

open OUT, ">", 'links.txt' or die "$0: open links.txt: $!";

my $tree = HTML::TreeBuilder->new_from_content($html);
my $links = $tree->extract_links;

foreach (@$links) {
   my ($link, $elem, $attr, $tag) = @$_;
   print OUT qq(<$tag $attr="$link">\n);
}

close OUT;

__END__


From andy at petdance.com  Thu Apr  2 19:31:36 2009
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:31:36 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Strip Links from FTP
In-Reply-To: <49D57232.5010208@att.net>
References: <49D57232.5010208@att.net>
Message-ID: <D0A4410B-9DB7-4FCA-8EC5-A7B45DAC5CE8@petdance.com>


On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:

> Anybody know how to strip links from an FTP site?
> The script below works good on HTTP sites, but
> has rarely or never worked for me on FTP sites.


If you just want to get links from a page of HTML, use WWW::Mechanize  
and it will do all the extraction for you.

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From mikeflan at att.net  Fri Apr  3 05:58:00 2009
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:58:00 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Strip Links from FTP
In-Reply-To: <D0A4410B-9DB7-4FCA-8EC5-A7B45DAC5CE8@petdance.com>
References: <49D57232.5010208@att.net>
	<D0A4410B-9DB7-4FCA-8EC5-A7B45DAC5CE8@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <49D607D8.5040705@att.net>


Andy Lester wrote:
> If you just want to get links from a page of HTML, use WWW::Mechanize 
> and it will do all the extraction for you.
>

Thanks for the advice.  It still doesn't work
for me (Can't use an undefined value as an
ARRAY reference at Mechanize.pl line 834),
but I'm still playing with it.

I can dereference the thing, but I can't get
it to work.


use strict;
use warnings;
use WWW::Mechanize;

my $m = WWW::Mechanize->new;

$m->get("ftp://mcmcftp.er.usgs.gov/Katrina/508dpi/");


my @links = $m->find_all_links(
        tag => "a", url_regex => qr/\.(tif)$/i );

open OUT, ">", 'links.txt' or die "$0: open links.txt: $!";

print @links;
print OUT @links;

close OUT;


__END__





From andy at petdance.com  Fri Apr  3 07:05:10 2009
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:05:10 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Strip Links from FTP
In-Reply-To: <49D607D8.5040705@att.net>
References: <49D57232.5010208@att.net>
	<D0A4410B-9DB7-4FCA-8EC5-A7B45DAC5CE8@petdance.com>
	<49D607D8.5040705@att.net>
Message-ID: <4F2907F0-990B-4F17-98D6-6B64405B904D@petdance.com>


On Apr 3, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Mike Flannigan wrote:

> $m->get("ftp://mcmcftp.er.usgs.gov/Katrina/508dpi/");


Mech only works with HTML over HTTP.

If you want to work with an FTP site using FTP, then use Net::FTP  
directly.

xoxo,
Andy

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance




From todd.e.rinaldo at gmail.com  Fri Apr  3 08:35:30 2009
From: todd.e.rinaldo at gmail.com (todd.e.rinaldo)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:35:30 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Strip Links from FTP
In-Reply-To: <D0A4410B-9DB7-4FCA-8EC5-A7B45DAC5CE8@petdance.com>
References: <49D57232.5010208@att.net>
	<D0A4410B-9DB7-4FCA-8EC5-A7B45DAC5CE8@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <35F00EEE-4CB6-461C-BE1D-335BB06DD322@gmail.com>



On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com> wrote:

>
> On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
>
>> Anybody know how to strip links from an FTP site?
>> The script below works good on HTTP sites, but
>> has rarely or never worked for me on FTP sites.
>
>
> If you just want to get links from a page of HTML, use  
> WWW::Mechanize and it will do all the extraction for you.
>
> --
> Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Whoever wrote that WWW::Mechanize module is a genius!  I use the hell  
out of it

From andy at petdance.com  Fri Apr  3 09:29:46 2009
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:29:46 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Strip Links from FTP
In-Reply-To: <35F00EEE-4CB6-461C-BE1D-335BB06DD322@gmail.com>
References: <49D57232.5010208@att.net>
	<D0A4410B-9DB7-4FCA-8EC5-A7B45DAC5CE8@petdance.com>
	<35F00EEE-4CB6-461C-BE1D-335BB06DD322@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880FAA5A-798C-4C70-886E-4CFCFB03C5AB@petdance.com>


On Apr 3, 2009, at 10:35 AM, todd.e.rinaldo wrote:

> Whoever wrote that WWW::Mechanize module is a genius!  I use the  
> hell out of it


He's also a swell guy!

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance




From toddr at null.net  Sun Apr  5 11:15:38 2009
From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:15:38 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] This month's PM meeting
Message-ID: <748c25c20904051115x1b524088g5678422c40997857@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I will be out of town on vacation during this month's meeting. So
unless Mr Willis, or Mr. Hackworth are game to host the meeting, JPMC
is not an option this month.

As for next month, I've been starting to dig into 5.10 features. Based
on typical attendance, I don't know how useful this would be for
anyone. What are your thoughts?

Todd

From will.willis at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 11:18:17 2009
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:18:17 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] This month's PM meeting
In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090904051117o702f47d4ledad20c58c55bc73@mail.gmail.com>
References: <748c25c20904051115x1b524088g5678422c40997857@mail.gmail.com>
	<6ee1e6090904051117o702f47d4ledad20c58c55bc73@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6ee1e6090904051118s439c05b5o57cba73626b001d7@mail.gmail.com>

I have doctor appointments that day, thus will not be at work, nor be able
to make the meeting

On Apr 5, 2009 1:15 PM, "Todd Rinaldo" <toddr at null.net> wrote:

All,

I will be out of town on vacation during this month's meeting. So
unless Mr Willis, or Mr. Hackworth are game to host the meeting, JPMC
is not an option this month.

As for next month, I've been starting to dig into 5.10 features. Based
on typical attendance, I don't know how useful this would be for
anyone. What are your thoughts?

Todd
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From keith.a.hackworth at jpmorgan.com  Sun Apr  5 12:24:51 2009
From: keith.a.hackworth at jpmorgan.com (keith.a.hackworth at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:24:51 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] This month's PM meeting
In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090904051118s439c05b5o57cba73626b001d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF2A721E5B.1ED62569-ON8625758F.006A7F53-8625758F.006AA58D@jpmchase.com>

I have someone coming out to my house to do some work on Tuesday night, so 
I cannot make the meeting.

Keith





Will Willis <will.willis at gmail.com> 
Sent by: houston-bounces+keith.a.hackworth=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
04/05/2009 01:18 PM
Please respond to
"Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." <houston at pm.org>


To
"Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." <houston at pm.org>
cc

Subject
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I have doctor appointments that day, thus will not be at work, nor be able 
to make the meeting
On Apr 5, 2009 1:15 PM, "Todd Rinaldo" <toddr at null.net> wrote:

All,

I will be out of town on vacation during this month's meeting. So
unless Mr Willis, or Mr. Hackworth are game to host the meeting, JPMC
is not an option this month.

As for next month, I've been starting to dig into 5.10 features. Based
on typical attendance, I don't know how useful this would be for
anyone. What are your thoughts?

Todd
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Houston at pm.org
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Apr  5 12:53:30 2009
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:53:30 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] This month's PM meeting
In-Reply-To: <748c25c20904051115x1b524088g5678422c40997857@mail.gmail.com>
References: <748c25c20904051115x1b524088g5678422c40997857@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090405145330.54ea0f38@sovvan>

On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:15:38 -0500
Todd Rinaldo <toddr at null.net> wrote:

> All,
> 
> I will be out of town on vacation during this month's meeting. So
> unless Mr Willis, or Mr. Hackworth are game to host the meeting, JPMC
> is not an option this month.
> 
> As for next month, I've been starting to dig into 5.10 features. Based
> on typical attendance, I don't know how useful this would be for
> anyone. What are your thoughts?

Does anyone have a suggestion for an alternate location for the meeting?

G. Wade
-- 
Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add but when
there is nothing more to take out.           -- Antoine de Saint Exupery

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Apr  5 20:32:33 2009
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:32:33 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: Open Source Bridge
Message-ID: <20090405223233.601aa8a7@sovvan>

I just received this message about a conference in Portland coming in
June. I've never heard of it, but maybe someone in the group would be
interested?


Begin forwarded message:

Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:10:37 -0700
From: Reid Beels <reid at opensourcebridge.org>
To: wade at anomaly.org
Subject: Houston Perl Mongers


Hello!

I'm one of the organizers of Open Source Bridge, a new open source  
developers? conference being held June 17?19, 2009 in Portland,  
Oregon. We?re aiming to connect people across projects, languages and  
experience and would love to have members of the Houston Perl  
community involved as speakers and participants. Details about the  
conference are included below.

Bridge isn?t a typical conference. It?s entirely volunteer-run, by  
developers, for developers. Session tracks are technology agnostic,  
based instead around shared community experiences and focused on  
similarities between projects, not differences. Plus, we?ll be running  
a 24-hour hacker lounge for code sprints, bug bashes, bouncing ideas,  
starting new projects or just mingling.

We?d be delighted it if you could mention Open Source Bridge at your  
user group meetings, post this email to your mailing list, and get us  
in touch with others in your community interested in participating.

We just extended our call for proposals through April 10th, which is  
fast approaching, so please pass this information on as soon as  
possible.

We don?t expect something for nothing, so we?re giving all of your  
user group members a discounted registration rate of $150. That?s $25  
off the Early Bird rate, and $100 off our regular registration. User  
groups are very important to the chairs of our conference ? that?s how  
they both got started in the open source community.

We?re also offering a free conference pass to give away to a member of  
your group. If you?re interested in more ways to promote the  
conference, let us know!

Thank You!
Reid Beels
Open Source Bridge

reid at opensourcebridge.org
http://opensourcebridge.org/

CONFERENCE PASS RAFFLE INFORMATION:

You get one free conference pass to raffle off to a member of your  
group!

We?ve found the most successful raffles tend to follow these conditions:

1) Let all of your members know about the conference, dates, and URL:
http://opensourcebridge.org/ 2) Allow anyone in the group to sign up
for the raffle. 3) Draw the winner at random, preferably at a public
meeting.

When you have selected a winner, email  
usergroups at opensourcebridge.org, CC the winner, and we?ll register  
them for you.

DETAILS TO SHARE WITH YOUR GROUP?S MEMBERS:

Open Source Bridge
http://opensourcebridge.org

Open Source Bridge is a new conference for developers working with  
open source technologies. It will take place June 17-19 in Portland,  
OR, with five tracks connecting people across projects, languages and  
experience to explore how we do our work and why we participate in  
open source. The conference structure is designed to provide  
developers with an opportunity to learn from people they might not  
connect with at other events.

Open Source Bridge is run entirely by volunteers who believe in the  
need for an open source conference that focuses on the culture of  
being an open source citizen, regardless of where in the stack you  
choose to code. All proceeds from conference registration and  
sponsorship go directly to the costs of the conference.

Our sessions and events will share in-depth knowledge about using,  
creating and contributing to open source as citizens of a greater  
community. You?ll find relevant information whether you write web apps  
for the cloud, tinker with operating system internals, create  
hardware, run a startup, or blog about technology.

We're still seeking proposals ? and just extended the deadline to  
April 10th ? so submit yours before time runs out.

Some examples of our proposals so far: Brian Aker on Drizzle, a reboot  
of MySQL designed ?for the cloud?; Linux Kernel hacker Greg K-H about  
how Linux manages development; Ward Cunningham, inventor of the wiki,  
about what?s next in collaboration; Amber Case, an anthropologist  
living in both the physical and virtual worlds, about Cyborg  
Citizenship. (You can view all current proposals at
http://opensourcebridge.org/proposals/)

In addition to regular conference sessions, we will hold an  
unconference day for free-form sessions, and host a 24-hour dedicated  
?hacker lounge? at the top of the Portland Hilton. In addition to  
hosting the hacker lounge, the Hilton has offered Open Source Bridge  
attendees steeply discounted room rates, starting at $139/night.

The city of Portland is a great place to visit. It has a thriving  
technical community, a love of all things open source and offers many  
attractions for visiting geeks, including Powell?s technical books,  
dozens of local brewpubs, and large greenspaces like Forest Park?all  
accessible by mass transit.

Visit http://opensourcebridge.org/ to learn more about the conference,  
see our session proposals, and register to attend.

Thanks!

PS: Interested in taking advantage of the user group discount code  
that will allow user group members to register for $150? Enter  
?osb4228? when you register to receive the discount.

-- 
Perl's payment curve coincides with its learning curve.
                                                      -- GrandFather

From mongers at bsod.net  Mon Apr  6 06:29:45 2009
From: mongers at bsod.net (Pete Krawczyk)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:29:45 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: Open Source Bridge
In-Reply-To: <20090405223233.601aa8a7@sovvan>
References: <20090405223233.601aa8a7@sovvan>
Message-ID: <f15e4bbf0904060629y48526cf5y3392f0832692a629@mail.gmail.com>

FYI, Open Source Bridge came about when OSCON moved to San Jose this
year.  The people in Portland who wanted OSCON to stay there instead
decided to start their own conference.

Or, in analogy form: Open Source Bridge : OSCON :: YAPC : TPC.

-Pete K

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:32 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
> I just received this message about a conference in Portland coming in
> June. I've never heard of it, but maybe someone in the group would be
> interested?
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:10:37 -0700
> From: Reid Beels <reid at opensourcebridge.org>
> To: wade at anomaly.org
> Subject: Houston Perl Mongers
>
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm one of the organizers of Open Source Bridge, a new open source
> developers? conference being held June 17?19, 2009 in Portland,
> Oregon. We?re aiming to connect people across projects, languages and
> experience and would love to have members of the Houston Perl
> community involved as speakers and participants. Details about the
> conference are included below.
>
> Bridge isn?t a typical conference. It?s entirely volunteer-run, by
> developers, for developers. Session tracks are technology agnostic,
> based instead around shared community experiences and focused on
> similarities between projects, not differences. Plus, we?ll be running
> a 24-hour hacker lounge for code sprints, bug bashes, bouncing ideas,
> starting new projects or just mingling.
>
> We?d be delighted it if you could mention Open Source Bridge at your
> user group meetings, post this email to your mailing list, and get us
> in touch with others in your community interested in participating.
>
> We just extended our call for proposals through April 10th, which is
> fast approaching, so please pass this information on as soon as
> possible.
>
> We don?t expect something for nothing, so we?re giving all of your
> user group members a discounted registration rate of $150. That?s $25
> off the Early Bird rate, and $100 off our regular registration. User
> groups are very important to the chairs of our conference ? that?s how
> they both got started in the open source community.
>
> We?re also offering a free conference pass to give away to a member of
> your group. If you?re interested in more ways to promote the
> conference, let us know!
>
> Thank You!
> Reid Beels
> Open Source Bridge
>
> reid at opensourcebridge.org
> http://opensourcebridge.org/
>
> CONFERENCE PASS RAFFLE INFORMATION:
>
> You get one free conference pass to raffle off to a member of your
> group!
>
> We?ve found the most successful raffles tend to follow these conditions:
>
> 1) Let all of your members know about the conference, dates, and URL:
> http://opensourcebridge.org/ 2) Allow anyone in the group to sign up
> for the raffle. 3) Draw the winner at random, preferably at a public
> meeting.
>
> When you have selected a winner, email
> usergroups at opensourcebridge.org, CC the winner, and we?ll register
> them for you.
>
> DETAILS TO SHARE WITH YOUR GROUP?S MEMBERS:
>
> Open Source Bridge
> http://opensourcebridge.org
>
> Open Source Bridge is a new conference for developers working with
> open source technologies. It will take place June 17-19 in Portland,
> OR, with five tracks connecting people across projects, languages and
> experience to explore how we do our work and why we participate in
> open source. The conference structure is designed to provide
> developers with an opportunity to learn from people they might not
> connect with at other events.
>
> Open Source Bridge is run entirely by volunteers who believe in the
> need for an open source conference that focuses on the culture of
> being an open source citizen, regardless of where in the stack you
> choose to code. All proceeds from conference registration and
> sponsorship go directly to the costs of the conference.
>
> Our sessions and events will share in-depth knowledge about using,
> creating and contributing to open source as citizens of a greater
> community. You?ll find relevant information whether you write web apps
> for the cloud, tinker with operating system internals, create
> hardware, run a startup, or blog about technology.
>
> We're still seeking proposals ? and just extended the deadline to
> April 10th ? so submit yours before time runs out.
>
> Some examples of our proposals so far: Brian Aker on Drizzle, a reboot
> of MySQL designed ?for the cloud?; Linux Kernel hacker Greg K-H about
> how Linux manages development; Ward Cunningham, inventor of the wiki,
> about what?s next in collaboration; Amber Case, an anthropologist
> living in both the physical and virtual worlds, about Cyborg
> Citizenship. (You can view all current proposals at
> http://opensourcebridge.org/proposals/)
>
> In addition to regular conference sessions, we will hold an
> unconference day for free-form sessions, and host a 24-hour dedicated
> ?hacker lounge? at the top of the Portland Hilton. In addition to
> hosting the hacker lounge, the Hilton has offered Open Source Bridge
> attendees steeply discounted room rates, starting at $139/night.
>
> The city of Portland is a great place to visit. It has a thriving
> technical community, a love of all things open source and offers many
> attractions for visiting geeks, including Powell?s technical books,
> dozens of local brewpubs, and large greenspaces like Forest Park?all
> accessible by mass transit.
>
> Visit http://opensourcebridge.org/ to learn more about the conference,
> see our session proposals, and register to attend.
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: Interested in taking advantage of the user group discount code
> that will allow user group members to register for $150? Enter
> ?osb4228? when you register to receive the discount.
>
> --
> Perl's payment curve coincides with its learning curve.
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-- GrandFather
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Apr  6 17:08:46 2009
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:08:46 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: Open Source Bridge
In-Reply-To: <f15e4bbf0904060629y48526cf5y3392f0832692a629@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090405223233.601aa8a7@sovvan>
	<f15e4bbf0904060629y48526cf5y3392f0832692a629@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090406190846.1c239bbb@sovvan>

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:29:45 -0500
Pete Krawczyk <mongers at bsod.net> wrote:

> FYI, Open Source Bridge came about when OSCON moved to San Jose this
> year.  The people in Portland who wanted OSCON to stay there instead
> decided to start their own conference.
> 
> Or, in analogy form: Open Source Bridge : OSCON :: YAPC : TPC.

Thanks, Pete.

It's always good to get these things explained by those "in the know".
(Or, at least, less clueless than I am.<grin/>)

G. Wade
-- 
There will always be things we wish to say in our programs that in all
known languages can only be said poorly.              -- Alan Perlis

From rlharris at oplink.net  Thu Apr  9 16:30:57 2009
From: rlharris at oplink.net (Russell L. Harris)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:30:57 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] moveable type versus wordpress
Message-ID: <49DE8531.9050308@oplink.net>

I looked at blogging packages a couple of years ago.  Back then, 
WordPress appealed to me.  But over the past year or so, WordPress has 
been issuing a new release every few months, and upgrading to a new 
release can take an hour or more.  Such devotion may be merited by a 
religion, but not by a blogging tool.

Somehow I overlooked Moveable Type, together with the fact that MT is 
written in Perl.

My blog has static content -- an article is added once or twice a week, 
and there is no provision for comments or user interaction.  A visitor 
should be able to see an index of article titles, and he should be able 
to print out individual articles.

While I am searching with Google to seet the pros and cons of switching 
from WP to MT, I thought it might be well to inquire as to how MT rates 
among members of the Perl community.

RLH

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Apr  9 16:39:51 2009
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:39:51 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting...
Message-ID: <20090409183951.0c2e319a@sovvan>

So far, I haven't had much luck drumming up an alternate location for
the meeting next Tuesday. I'm considering suggesting we turn it into a
social meeting instead.

Our previous social meeting spot, Bennigan's has closed, so we need an
alternate for that as well.

The general location of the Bennigan's seemed to work well for many
people, so what about one of the restaurants along 59 in that area.
Possibilities include Fuddrucker's, Chili's, or really anything in that
strip along the freeway.

Sing out if you would be interested in a social meeting next week, even
if you would like a different location. We have a few days to settle on
a location still.

G. Wade
-- 
"Mister Garibaldi, there're days I'm very glad I don't have to think
like you do."                   -- Ivanova, "And the Sky Full of Stars"

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Apr  9 17:55:29 2009
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:55:29 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] moveable type versus wordpress
In-Reply-To: <49DE8531.9050308@oplink.net>
References: <49DE8531.9050308@oplink.net>
Message-ID: <20090409195529.3a6c17a5@sovvan>

On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:30:57 -0500
"Russell L. Harris" <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:

> I looked at blogging packages a couple of years ago.  Back then, 
> WordPress appealed to me.  But over the past year or so, WordPress
> has been issuing a new release every few months, and upgrading to a
> new release can take an hour or more.  Such devotion may be merited
> by a religion, but not by a blogging tool.
> 
> Somehow I overlooked Moveable Type, together with the fact that MT is 
> written in Perl.
> 
> My blog has static content -- an article is added once or twice a
> week, and there is no provision for comments or user interaction.  A
> visitor should be able to see an index of article titles, and he
> should be able to print out individual articles.
> 
> While I am searching with Google to seet the pros and cons of
> switching from WP to MT, I thought it might be well to inquire as to
> how MT rates among members of the Perl community.

I don't know about everyone else. I've been using MT for quite a while.
My biggest problem is that it works well enough that I forget to
upgrade.

G. Wade
-- 
When in doubt, use brute force                       -- Ken Thompson

From will.willis at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 19:40:01 2009
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:40:01 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] moveable type versus wordpress
In-Reply-To: <20090409195529.3a6c17a5@sovvan>
References: <49DE8531.9050308@oplink.net> <20090409195529.3a6c17a5@sovvan>
Message-ID: <6ee1e6090904091940m56f35f04q48b14c15e06cc8f5@mail.gmail.com>

Ditto on the upgrading. I've considered moving to a hosted solution for this
reason.
Have a look at Motion, http://movabletype.com/motion/ their newest (and more
*social*) offering.

Dig into the code, it's a great code base.

While on the subject, I found this interesting too:
http://shaderlab.com/six-apart-core-javascript/


-Will


On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:55 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:30:57 -0500
> "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:
>
> > I looked at blogging packages a couple of years ago.  Back then,
> > WordPress appealed to me.  But over the past year or so, WordPress
> > has been issuing a new release every few months, and upgrading to a
> > new release can take an hour or more.  Such devotion may be merited
> > by a religion, but not by a blogging tool.
> >
> > Somehow I overlooked Moveable Type, together with the fact that MT is
> > written in Perl.
> >
> > My blog has static content -- an article is added once or twice a
> > week, and there is no provision for comments or user interaction.  A
> > visitor should be able to see an index of article titles, and he
> > should be able to print out individual articles.
> >
> > While I am searching with Google to seet the pros and cons of
> > switching from WP to MT, I thought it might be well to inquire as to
> > how MT rates among members of the Perl community.
>
> I don't know about everyone else. I've been using MT for quite a while.
> My biggest problem is that it works well enough that I forget to
> upgrade.
>
> G. Wade
> --
> When in doubt, use brute force                       -- Ken Thompson
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From rlharris at oplink.net  Thu Apr  9 23:40:45 2009
From: rlharris at oplink.net (Russell L. Harris)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:40:45 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] moveable type versus wordpress
In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090904091940m56f35f04q48b14c15e06cc8f5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49DE8531.9050308@oplink.net> <20090409195529.3a6c17a5@sovvan>
	<6ee1e6090904091940m56f35f04q48b14c15e06cc8f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49DEE9ED.7060702@oplink.net>

Will Willis wrote:
> Ditto on the upgrading. I've considered moving to a hosted solution for 
> this reason.
> 
> Have a look at Motion, http://movabletype.com/motion/ their newest (and 
> more *social*) offering.
> 
> Dig into the code, it's a great code base. 
> 
> While on the subject, I found this interesting too: 
> http://shaderlab.com/six-apart-core-javascript/
> 
> 
> -Will
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:55 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org 
> <mailto:gwadej at anomaly.org>> wrote:
> 
>     On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:30:57 -0500
>     "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris at oplink.net
>     <mailto:rlharris at oplink.net>> wrote:
> 
>      > I looked at blogging packages a couple of years ago.  Back then,
>      > WordPress appealed to me.  But over the past year or so, WordPress
>      > has been issuing a new release every few months, and upgrading to a
>      > new release can take an hour or more.  Such devotion may be merited
>      > by a religion, but not by a blogging tool.
>      >
>      > Somehow I overlooked Moveable Type, together with the fact that MT is
>      > written in Perl.
>      >
>      > My blog has static content -- an article is added once or twice a
>      > week, and there is no provision for comments or user interaction.  A
>      > visitor should be able to see an index of article titles, and he
>      > should be able to print out individual articles.
>      >
>      > While I am searching with Google to seet the pros and cons of
>      > switching from WP to MT, I thought it might be well to inquire as to
>      > how MT rates among members of the Perl community.
> 
>     I don't know about everyone else. I've been using MT for quite a while.
>     My biggest problem is that it works well enough that I forget to
>     upgrade.
> 
>     G. Wade

Thanks for the confirmation, guys.  I'm going to take the plunge.

I've spent the evening downloading and reading the documentation for 
MovableType.  I am relieved to learn that the RSS feed has been 
reinstituted to release 4, and that release 4 now includes enclosures 
for files external to the blog server.  And I found an article on 
creating a printer-friendly template.

Regrettably, there does not appear to be an O'Reilly book on MovableType.

RLH

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Apr 12 20:48:11 2009
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:48:11 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
Message-ID: <20090412224811.24df4c49@sovvan>

Since I haven't been able to work out a good alternate location in the
past couple of days, it looks like we'll have a social meeting this
month.

Unless someone has a better idea, I recommend we meet at the
Fuddrucker's on 59 near Weslayan. The address is 3929 SW freeway.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3929+Southwest+Fwy,+Houston,+TX

We've had people comment that they would meet if we could get together
sooner. So, I plan to be there around 5:30pm. Feel free to come when
you like. We'll probably close the meeting down between 8 and 9, but
feel free to come for less time if you want.

I'll try to have a sign or something up so you can find me.

See you there.
G. Wade
-- 
You should never hand someone a gun unless you're sure where they'll
point it.                -- Jeffrey Sinclair in "By Any Means Necessary"

From andy at petdance.com  Sun Apr 12 20:50:20 2009
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:50:20 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20090412224811.24df4c49@sovvan>
References: <20090412224811.24df4c49@sovvan>
Message-ID: <E936FEAF-3201-4C25-9C28-53CEBCFC5210@petdance.com>


On Apr 12, 2009, at 10:48 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote:

> Unless someone has a better idea, I recommend we meet at the
> Fuddrucker's on 59 near Weslayan. The address is 3929 SW freeway.


Man, I'd love to have meetings at a Fuddruckers!

xoxo,
Andy

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Apr 13 04:35:26 2009
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:35:26 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <E936FEAF-3201-4C25-9C28-53CEBCFC5210@petdance.com>
References: <20090412224811.24df4c49@sovvan>
	<E936FEAF-3201-4C25-9C28-53CEBCFC5210@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <20090413063526.1a7d1a33@sovvan>

On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:50:20 -0500
Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com> wrote:

> 
> On Apr 12, 2009, at 10:48 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> 
> > Unless someone has a better idea, I recommend we meet at the
> > Fuddrucker's on 59 near Weslayan. The address is 3929 SW freeway.
> 
> 
> Man, I'd love to have meetings at a Fuddruckers!

You're welcome to come.<grin/>

G. Wade
-- 
I have this feeling, that my luck is none too good.
                                  -- "Black Blade", Blue Oyster Cult

From andy at petdance.com  Mon Apr 13 07:23:53 2009
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:23:53 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20090413063526.1a7d1a33@sovvan>
References: <20090412224811.24df4c49@sovvan>
	<E936FEAF-3201-4C25-9C28-53CEBCFC5210@petdance.com>
	<20090413063526.1a7d1a33@sovvan>
Message-ID: <E1FCD9E4-1A03-400E-9332-7FD68D57C20B@petdance.com>

>> Man, I'd love to have meetings at a Fuddruckers!
>
> You're welcome to come.<grin/>
>

I'd love to.  This week I'm going to be in Omaha with Randal Schwartz.

http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/library/post/lightning-strikes-in-omaha-not-once-but-twice.html

xoxo,
Andy


--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.theworkinggeek.com => AIM:petdance





From gwadej at anomaly.org  Tue Apr 28 05:08:16 2009
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:08:16 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] Send a newbie
Message-ID: <20090428070816.54a2cc30@sovvan>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:27:23 +0100
From: L?on Brocard <acme at astray.com>
To: pm_groups at pm.org
Subject: [pm_groups] Send a newbie


[Sending on for Edmund, seems a worthwhile cause]

Hello,

Please could you pass this email on to your PM group if you think it
would be of interest to them.

The Send-a-Newbie project is raising money for young Perl programmers
to attend YAPC::Europe this year in Lisbon, Portugal.

? ?http://www.send-a-newbie.com/

So far they've raised 965 Euros - which will be enough to send at
least two people. However there are 21 applicants for funding so more
donations are needed.

If you're able to donate please do so. By getting people into the
community earlier they'll contribute more and we'll all benefit. It'll
also demonstrate to the outside world that the Perl community is
alive, vibrant and supportive (we all know this of course).

Please also help by spreading the word. You can do this by adding a
link in your email signature, blogging and so on. Especially useful
would be to forward this email to internal mailing lists to reach
people who might not read the main lists. The more people we reach the
more we can help.

Thank you,
?Edmund.
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