From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Nov 2 19:46:15 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:46:15 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Next meeting topic Message-ID: <20081102214615.54b923e4@sovvan> Well, the November meeting is almost here and we haven't had any suggestions for a topic. Does anyone have something they would like to present (or a presentation they would like to hear)? As Robert Boone showed last month, the topic does not have to be Perl-specific, any topic that Perl programmers might find interesting is a potential presentation. The next meeting is a week from Tuesday. Any ideas would definitely be appreciated. G. Wade From gwadej at anomaly.org Thu Nov 6 04:59:59 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:59:59 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] Fwd: IMPORTANT - help us estimate the size of the Catalyst user base Message-ID: <20081106065959.232bdeb5@sovvan> Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:56:36 -0600 From: Jay Hannah To: pm_groups at pm.org Subject: [pm_groups] Fwd: IMPORTANT - help us estimate the size of the Catalyst user base Please forward to your local group if you deem this appropriate. Thank you, j Omaha.pm Chief pm.org ticket monkey slacker From: Kieren Diment Date: November 5, 2008 7:51:35 PM CST Hi All, Apologies for the cross-posting, I'm trying to representatives of as many organisations as possible who use Catalyst as possible to reply to this email. We need your assistance to help estimate the number of users of Catalyst. Matt Trout and I have written a proposal for a Catalyst book, and while we have a well known, credible publisher interested, they want the assurance that the market for the book is large enough to make it worth their while. If you could take the time to provide the following information (I've set reply-to to me for your confidentiality, and so that we don't pollute the list with this stuff) this would be really useful. I'll also let you know the results of this survey when I have them. I will treat this information in confidence, and will only use aggregated data so that you or your organisation will not be identifiable in the report I make on this data. There are about 1000 subscribers on the catalyst mailing list, and I'd hope for a response rate of about 10% (i.e. about 100 replies). The information I'm collecting is likely to result in an outcome that is useful to you in a commercial way, so your participation would be much appreciated. Please try to ensure that only one person from your organisation answers these questions. 1. What country are you in? 2. How many people are on your team? 3. How many of those people are writing code with Catalyst? 3a. If there are non Catalyst coders on your team, how many of the whole team would you like to be writing Catalyst code? 4. How many people using Catalyst on your team are subscribers to the Catalyst mailing list? 5. How many people writing Catalyst code on your team use the #catalyst irc channel on irc.perl.org? 6. These two questions are about the potential for the growth of Catalyst usage in your organisation. 6a. How many people do you think will be using Catalyst in your organisation in 12 months time? 6b. How many people do you think will be using Catalyst in your organisation in 2 years time? Thanks for your cooperation. If you know of any teams who are users of Catalyst but that do not subscribe to the Catalyst mailing list, or are on the IRC channel, please forward this email to them. Thanks. Kieren Diment -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support at pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups -- I have this feeling, that my luck is none too good. -- "Black Blade", Blue Oyster Cult From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Nov 9 18:21:05 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 20:21:05 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] November meeting Message-ID: <20081109202105.1960a230@sovvan> Still no suggestions from anyone on a topic for Tuesday's meeting. We should still be meeting at 1111 Fannin at 6pm, as usual. Hopefully, someone will suggest a topic before then. Otherwise, we can have our standard "open questions night". If you are planning on being at the meeting, please let myself or Todd know (or post to the list) so we can make sure to collect everyone before we go up to the meeting room. Hope to see you there. G. Wade -- I like you. You're trouble. -- Draal - "Voices of Authority" From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Nov 10 15:22:28 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:22:28 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] November Meeting Message-ID: <20081110172228.2085965e@sovvan> The November meeting is tomorrow night at 1111 Fannin, as usual. (Check out http://houston.pm.org/meetings.html for map and directions.) As usual, we will be meeting in the lobby between 6pm and about 6:20pm. Parking on the street is free after 6pm. See you there. G. Wade -- Simplicity and elegance are unpopular because they require hard work and discipline to achieve and education to be appreciated. -- Edsger Dijkstra From gwadej at anomaly.org Tue Nov 11 15:21:26 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:21:26 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] November Meeting cancelled Message-ID: <20081111172126.07ea71b3@sovvan> Due to unforeseen circumstances, we are canceling the Houston.pm meeting for tonight. Sorry for the short notice. G. Wade -- When they first built the University of California at Irvine they just put the buildings in. They did not put any sidewalks, they just planted grass. The next year, they came back and put the sidewalks where the trails were in the grass. Perl is just that kind of language. It is not designed from first principles. Perl is those sidewalks in the grass. -- Larry Wall From gwadej at anomaly.org Wed Nov 12 04:49:01 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:49:01 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] 5.8.9 RC1 is out, please test your code with it! Message-ID: <20081112064901.685d486f@sovvan> Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:24:06 +0200 From: "Gabor Szabo" To: "PM Groups" Subject: [pm_groups] 5.8.9 RC1 is out, please test your code with it! I think this, or a better written version of this should be distributed via your local Perl Mongers. thanks Gabor ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Gabor Szabo Date: Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:21 AM Subject: 5.8.9 RC1 is out, please test your code with it! To: Perl in Israel , Jerusalem Perl Mongers I know about several companies that cannot move from 5.6 to 5.8 or to 5.10 as their code does not run there. Some of them complain how horrible it is that perl has changed and something was removed from it that is causing them the problem. I think the main problem is that these companies while rely on Perl they don't exercise their right the fact Perl is Open Source gives them. If Perl is important for them the can and should check if some change in perl is going to cause them trouble. The best would be of course to follow the development of the interpreter but if they cannot do that at least they should check if the Release Candidates meet their needs. So If you are using perl 5.8.x, you should go ahead, download RC1 of 5.8.9 and check if your code works on it. See the announcement of Nick Clark: http://use.perl.org/~nicholas/journal/37858 Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html Test Automation Tips http://szabgab.com/test_automation_tips.html -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support at pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups -- The computer should be doing the hard work. That's what it's paid to do, after all. -- Larry Wall From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Nov 24 04:54:38 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. 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