From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Jun 1 09:07:00 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 11:07:00 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] June Houston.pm Meeting Message-ID: <20080601110700.1062b0b5@sovvan> Will Willis has volunteered to present about using Emacs as a programmer's editor for Perl at this month's meeting. If you are new to Emacs and want to see how it help you program, this is the presentation for you. Even if you don't use Emacs, there may be some tips you can use in your editor of choice. As usual, we will meet at the regular location: 1111 Fannin. See the meetings page (http://houston.pm.org/meetings.html) for a map. We normally meet in the lobby between 6pm and 6:20pm and go to the meeting room from there. Parking on the street is free after 6pm. See you there, G. Wade -- "any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from a Perl script." -- Programming Perl, 2nd ed. From mikeflan at att.net Sun Jun 1 12:03:33 2008 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:03:33 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] June Houston.pm Meeting In-Reply-To: <20080601110700.1062b0b5@sovvan> References: <20080601110700.1062b0b5@sovvan> Message-ID: <4842F285.5070501@att.net> G. Wade Johnson wrote: > Will Willis has volunteered to present about using Emacs as a > programmer's editor for Perl at this month's meeting. If you are new to > Emacs and want to see how it help you program, this is the presentation > for you. > > Even if you don't use Emacs, there may be some tips you can use in your > editor of choice. > > As usual, we will meet at the regular location: 1111 Fannin. See the > meetings page (http://houston.pm.org/meetings.html) for a map. > > We normally meet in the lobby between 6pm and 6:20pm and go to the > meeting room from there. > > Parking on the street is free after 6pm. > > See you there, > G. Wade > Wow - another good meeting. I'll make an effort to attend. This meeting is on 6/10/08. Mike From mikeflan at att.net Sat Jun 7 19:20:57 2008 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:20:57 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Recursive Directory Copy In-Reply-To: <4842F285.5070501@att.net> References: <20080601110700.1062b0b5@sovvan> <4842F285.5070501@att.net> Message-ID: <484B4209.4060504@att.net> Do you guys know what is wrong here. I'm trying to copy a directory recursively. I thought some combination of these commands might work, but all give various errors like "Invalid Argument". This is on Win32. use strict; use warnings; use File::NCopy qw(copy); my $dir1 = "C:/Lame"; my $dir2 = "C:/Copy2"; copy \1,"$dir1","$dir2" or die "Copy failed: $!"; #copy "$dir1","$dir2" or die "Copy failed: $!"; #copy $dir1,$dir2 or die "Copy failed: $!"; #my $file = File::NCopy->new(recursive => 1); #my $file = File::NCopy->new(u_chmod => \&my_chmod,f_check => \&my_fcheck); #$file->copy "$dir1","$dir2" or die "Copy failed: $!"; __END__ From mikeflan at att.net Sat Jun 7 19:54:26 2008 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:54:26 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Recursive Directory Copy In-Reply-To: <484B4209.4060504@att.net> References: <20080601110700.1062b0b5@sovvan> <4842F285.5070501@att.net> <484B4209.4060504@att.net> Message-ID: <484B49E2.4010208@att.net> Mike Flannigan wrote: > Do you guys know what is wrong here. I'm trying to > copy a directory recursively. I thought some combination > of these commands might work, but all give various errors > like "Invalid Argument". > > This is on Win32. > > > use strict; > use warnings; > use File::NCopy qw(copy); > > my $dir1 = "C:/Lame"; > > my $dir2 = "C:/Copy2"; > > copy \1,"$dir1","$dir2" or die "Copy failed: $!"; > #copy "$dir1","$dir2" or die "Copy failed: $!"; > #copy $dir1,$dir2 or die "Copy failed: $!"; > > > #my $file = File::NCopy->new(recursive => 1); > #my $file = File::NCopy->new(u_chmod => \&my_chmod,f_check => \&my_fcheck); > #$file->copy "$dir1","$dir2" or die "Copy failed: $!"; > > > __END__ > > Never mind. I finally found one that works: use strict; use warnings; use File::Copy::Recursive qw(fcopy rcopy dircopy fmove rmove dirmove); my $dir1 = "C:/Lame"; my $dir2 = "C:/Copy2"; dircopy($dir1,$dir2) or die "Copy failed: $!"; __END__ This was much harder than it should be. Mike From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Jun 8 07:02:53 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:02:53 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Recursive Directory Copy In-Reply-To: <484B49E2.4010208@att.net> References: <20080601110700.1062b0b5@sovvan> <4842F285.5070501@att.net> <484B4209.4060504@att.net> <484B49E2.4010208@att.net> Message-ID: <20080608090253.1d16b0a7@sovvan> Hi Mike, On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:54:26 -0600 Mike Flannigan wrote: > > Mike Flannigan wrote: > > Do you guys know what is wrong here. I'm trying to > > copy a directory recursively. I thought some combination > > of these commands might work, but all give various errors > > like "Invalid Argument". > > > > This is on Win32. > > > > > > use strict; > > use warnings; > > use File::NCopy qw(copy); > > > > my $dir1 = "C:/Lame"; > > > > my $dir2 = "C:/Copy2"; > > > > copy \1,"$dir1","$dir2" or die "Copy failed: $!"; > > #copy "$dir1","$dir2" or die "Copy failed: $!"; > > #copy $dir1,$dir2 or die "Copy failed: $!"; > > > > > > #my $file = File::NCopy->new(recursive => 1); > > #my $file = File::NCopy->new(u_chmod => \&my_chmod,f_check => > > \&my_fcheck); #$file->copy "$dir1","$dir2" or die "Copy failed: > > $!"; > > > > > > __END__ > > > > > > Never mind. I finally found one that works: > > use strict; > use warnings; > use File::Copy::Recursive qw(fcopy rcopy dircopy fmove rmove dirmove); > > my $dir1 = "C:/Lame"; > > my $dir2 = "C:/Copy2"; > > dircopy($dir1,$dir2) or die "Copy failed: $!"; > > __END__ > > > This was much harder than it should be. That's good to know. Personally, I've rarely needed to copy a whole directory tree. My normal problem is copying some subset of the tree (files and directories that meet some criteria get copied and ignore the rest). I've used one of the File::Find variants or walking the tree directly. This looks like a useful module to know about. G. Wade -- Perl's grammar can not be reduced to BNF. The work of parsing perl is distributed between yacc, the lexer, smoke and mirrors. -- Chaim Frenkel From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Jun 8 18:03:42 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:03:42 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] June Houston.pm Meeting In-Reply-To: <4842F285.5070501@att.net> References: <20080601110700.1062b0b5@sovvan> <4842F285.5070501@att.net> Message-ID: <20080608200342.39e3b33e@sovvan> Thanks to Mike for filling in the critical piece of information that I left out in the meeting announcement. This is just a reminder that this Tuesday is our next meeting. Come see Will Willis show how to get the most out of Emacs as your editor. I hope to see many of you this week. G. Wade On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:03:33 -0600 Mike Flannigan wrote: > > G. Wade Johnson wrote: > > Will Willis has volunteered to present about using Emacs as a > > programmer's editor for Perl at this month's meeting. If you are > > new to Emacs and want to see how it help you program, this is the > > presentation for you. > > > > Even if you don't use Emacs, there may be some tips you can use in > > your editor of choice. > > > > As usual, we will meet at the regular location: 1111 Fannin. See the > > meetings page (http://houston.pm.org/meetings.html) for a map. > > > > We normally meet in the lobby between 6pm and 6:20pm and go to the > > meeting room from there. > > > > Parking on the street is free after 6pm. > > > > See you there, > > G. Wade > > > > > Wow - another good meeting. I'll make an effort to attend. > This meeting is on 6/10/08. > > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -- Why do your people ask if someone's ready right before you are going to do something massively unwise? -- Delenn - "The War without End" From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Jun 8 18:09:16 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:09:16 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Device::USB Message-ID: <20080608200916.721b7599@sovvan> I've opened the Device::USB source code on Google Code. The project is located at http://code.google.com/p/perl-device-usb/ Everyone has read-only access to the project. If you would like to make changes, let me know to get commit access. At present, the version here is a little more up-to-date than CPAN. Once I work out a couple more kinks, I'll update CPAN. G. Wade -- C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg. -- Bjarne Stroustrup From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Jun 15 18:07:00 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:07:00 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Topic for next month? Message-ID: <20080615200700.7423a7f9@sovvan> At the most recent meeting, the subject of parsing came up as a potential meeting topic. Would there be any interest? Possible subtopics * Parsing approaches: ad hoc, recursive decent, LALR * Parser generation tools * Parsing modules in Perl * Basic language design G. Wade -- Simplicity and elegance are unpopular because they require hard work and discipline to achieve and education to be appreciated. -- Edsger Dijkstra From robo4288 at gmail.com Sun Jun 15 18:15:44 2008 From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:15:44 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Topic for next month? In-Reply-To: <20080615200700.7423a7f9@sovvan> References: <20080615200700.7423a7f9@sovvan> Message-ID: <435624390806151815g4394aa94td1cfd42c50398b36@mail.gmail.com> I would be interested in Parsing approaches: ad hoc, recursive decent, LALR or Basic language design... On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:07 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > At the most recent meeting, the subject of parsing came up as a > potential meeting topic. > > Would there be any interest? > > Possible subtopics > > * Parsing approaches: ad hoc, recursive decent, LALR > * Parser generation tools > * Parsing modules in Perl > * Basic language design > > G. Wade > -- > Simplicity and elegance are unpopular because they require hard work and > discipline to achieve and education to be appreciated. > -- Edsger Dijkstra > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > From toddr at null.net Sun Jun 15 21:07:16 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:07:16 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Topic for next month? In-Reply-To: <435624390806151815g4394aa94td1cfd42c50398b36@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080615200700.7423a7f9@sovvan> <435624390806151815g4394aa94td1cfd42c50398b36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: As a result of YAPC, I can probably do a basic talk on parrot or at least my "parrot hackathon" experience at YAPC On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Robert Boone wrote: > I would be interested in Parsing approaches: ad hoc, recursive decent, > LALR or Basic language design... > > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:07 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: >> At the most recent meeting, the subject of parsing came up as a >> potential meeting topic. >> >> Would there be any interest? >> >> Possible subtopics >> >> * Parsing approaches: ad hoc, recursive decent, LALR >> * Parser generation tools >> * Parsing modules in Perl >> * Basic language design >> >> G. Wade >> -- >> Simplicity and elegance are unpopular because they require hard work and >> discipline to achieve and education to be appreciated. >> -- Edsger Dijkstra >> _______________________________________________ >> Houston mailing list >> Houston at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/ >> > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > -- George Carlin - "Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stu... From evan.kaufman at gmail.com Mon Jun 16 14:23:22 2008 From: evan.kaufman at gmail.com (Evan Kaufman) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:23:22 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Topic for next month? Message-ID: This may only be tangentially related, but I was recently reading up on source filters, which allow for some pretty ingenious uses like Smart::Comments. It's a very cool but apparently little known feature (I just found out about it a week ago when reading into the source of Smart::Comments), so if anyone has experience with it, that could make for an interesting talk. Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:07:00 -0500 > From: "G. Wade Johnson" > Subject: [pm-h] Topic for next month? > To: Houston Perl Mongers > Message-ID: <20080615200700.7423a7f9 at sovvan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > At the most recent meeting, the subject of parsing came up as a > potential meeting topic. > > Would there be any interest? > > Possible subtopics > > * Parsing approaches: ad hoc, recursive decent, LALR > * Parser generation tools > * Parsing modules in Perl > * Basic language design > > G. Wade > -- > Simplicity and elegance are unpopular because they require hard work and > discipline to achieve and education to be appreciated. > -- Edsger Dijkstra > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <20080623075956.GB21232@tmiaf> My problem: I have several text source files, each of which contains several chapters of a book. I need to split each of these source files into the component chapter files, with a coherent naming scheme for the chapter files. Details: => No single file contains every chapter of the book. => The chapter numbers must be determined from a hash of the chapter names; they cannot be determined from the sequence of the chapter in the source file. => Each chapter is separated by line consisting of the word "chapterbreak". => Each chapter begins with a unique string which provides the chapter title ("LION", "BEAR", "DUCK", "MOOSE", etc.). Examples: source file No. 1 :: LIONtext of chapter three\n chapterbreak\n MOOSEtext of chapter one\n chapterbreak\n KANGAROOtext of chapter four\n source file No. 2 :: BEARtext of chapter five\n chapterbreak\n PENGUINtext of chapter six\n chapterbreak\n DUCKtext of chapter two\n I wish to split each source file on the pattern "chapterbreak" and place each chapter into a separate file, with the chapter filename being of the form "chapternumber.txt". %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% I know how to create a hash of the first several characters of the chapter names, using the chapter numbers as the keys: key: MOOS DUCK LION KANG BEAR PENG hash element: 1 2 3 4 5 6 ---------- I think that I know how to read a file using the <> operator and split the chapters into an array (but I am a little fuzzy on this). ---------- And I think that I know how to use the match operator to obtain the first several characters of the chapter name from each string scalar in the array, which is the needed hash key: /(.{4})/ ---------- But, after several hours of reading in the O'Reilly Perl books, I still do not understand how to open a new file using the hash element (the string "1", "2", "3", etc.) as the filename. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% If I am trying to do this the hard way, kindly advise. RLH From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Jun 23 05:15:27 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:15:27 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] how to split one file into multiple files? In-Reply-To: <20080623075956.GB21232@tmiaf> References: <20080623075956.GB21232@tmiaf> Message-ID: <20080623071527.5c1e8c95@sovvan> Hi Russell, On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:59:56 -0500 "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > My problem: > > I have several text source files, each of which contains several > chapters of a book. I need to split each of these source files into > the component chapter files, with a coherent naming scheme for the > chapter files. > > Details: > > => No single file contains every chapter of the book. > > => The chapter numbers must be determined from a hash of the > chapter names; they cannot be determined from the sequence of > the chapter in the source file. > > => Each chapter is separated by line consisting of the word > "chapterbreak". > > => Each chapter begins with a unique string which provides the > chapter title ("LION", "BEAR", "DUCK", "MOOSE", etc.). > > Examples: > > source file No. 1 :: > > LIONtext of chapter three\n > chapterbreak\n > MOOSEtext of chapter one\n > chapterbreak\n > KANGAROOtext of chapter four\n > > source file No. 2 :: > > BEARtext of chapter five\n > chapterbreak\n > PENGUINtext of chapter six\n > chapterbreak\n > DUCKtext of chapter two\n > > I wish to split each source file on the pattern "chapterbreak" and > place each chapter into a separate file, with the chapter filename > being of the form "chapternumber.txt". Okay. > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > I know how to create a hash of the first several characters of the > chapter names, using the chapter numbers as the keys: > > key: MOOS DUCK LION KANG BEAR PENG > hash element: 1 2 3 4 5 6 Got that. > ---------- > > I think that I know how to read a file using the <> operator and split > the chapters into an array (but I am a little fuzzy on this). One useful trick for this is to set the input record separator to the string you want to split on. $/ = "\nchapterbreak\n"; Now, the <> returns all text up to and including "\nchapterbreak\n" on each call. The chomp operator also removes the same string from the end of the string. (So it will remove "\nchapterbreak\n" instead of "\n".) > ---------- > > And I think that I know how to use the match operator to obtain the > first several characters of the chapter name from each string scalar > in the array, which is the needed hash key: > > /(.{4})/ > > ---------- > > But, after several hours of reading in the O'Reilly Perl books, I > still do not understand how to open a new file using the hash element > (the string "1", "2", "3", etc.) as the filename. open( my $fh, $hash{'MOOS'} ) or die "Unable to open file: $!\n"; > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > If I am trying to do this the hard way, kindly advise. G. Wade -- Why do your people ask if someone's ready right before you are going to do something massively unwise? -- Delenn - "The War without End" From gwadej at anomaly.org Wed Jun 25 16:14:43 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:14:43 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] Win a free OSCON registration Message-ID: <20080625181443.3fbf04c0@sovvan> For all of you who have wanted to go to OSCON but couldn't, here's a chance to try something unusual and win a ticket. Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:36:29 +0100 From: "Jos? Castro" To: "PM Groups" Subject: [pm_groups] Win a free OSCON registration brian d foy has just posted about a free entry he has for OSCON and the pseudo-rules he's thinking of using to hand out that code: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/25/1952240 It seems the odds are more in favor of unknown people, which probably means if you pass the message to your local group, somebody there might have a chance. In any case, the rules seem fun. I can already imagine an unknown guy holding a copy of TPR *and* a copy of Learning Perl in front of a famous landmark, doing a video to convince brian to pick him :-) Have fun, :-) jac -- Jos? 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Wade Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:15:05 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] YAPC::NA::2009 Message-ID: <20080627231505.3634591e@sovvan> Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:00:24 -0400 From: Robert Blackwell To: pm_groups at pm.org Subject: [pm_groups] YAPC::NA::2009 Please forward this to your local PM group. Fellow Perl Mongers, I am very happy to announce that Pittsburgh will be hosting YAPC::NA in 2009. Mark your calendars for June 22 through Wednesday, June 24. Oh just block out the entire week we are going to have some Perl fun in the 'burgh. Thanks Robert -- There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. -- C. A. R. Hoare -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark your calendars for this years PPW will be October 11th and 12th 2008. At this years YAPC::NA I was surprised at how much was going on before and after YAPC. So if you plan on coming to PPW and would like to have a hack-a-thon or something before or after the official PPW event and would like some help planing that let us know and we will do what we can to help. PPW08 will have more training, more fun, and more talks than every before but if you think we might be missing something send us a note about it and maybe we can make it happen. We can not make everyone's wishes come true but we would like to try. If you want to keep up with PPW announcements we have an announce mailing list http://groups.google.com/group/ppw-announce/. Also you can keep an eye on http://pghpw.org/. If you want to contact the PPW organizers you can email us at ppw- cabal at googlegroups.com. If you are interested in being a sponsor you can contact us at sponsors at pghpw.org. This year we are going to be offering a speaker mentor program. This is a chance to have someone work with you to polish your talk from idea to delivery. If you are interested in being a mentor or being mentored please let us know. If you have already have a talk proposal you can send it to us now at ppw-proposals at googlegroups.com. If you are planning on attending the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop 2008 please consider joining the Linkedin group PPW008 http://www.linkedin.com/groupInvitation?groupID=89938&sharedKey=46A24D3F241B . Robert Blackwell -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support at pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups -- I have this feeling, that my luck is none too good. -- "Black Blade", Blue Oyster Cult From toddr at null.net Sun Jun 29 15:38:55 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:38:55 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Proposals for this and future meetings Message-ID: All, I had a great time at YAPC 2008 and wanted to share some of my experiences from the conference. This year featured more hands on, in depth courses than previous years. For this month's meeting, I am offering to do a hands on, where everyone can download and build their own perl6/parrot compiler on their own system, regardless of what it is. I am blatantly stealing this idea from one of the sessions at YAPC. In addition, I can speak on what I've learned about the perl6/parrot projects while I was at YAPC. This meeting leads nicely into my proposal for next month, which would be a more in-depth meeting on the perl6 project, and a discussion on how we can help the perl6/parrot projects. I met Patrick Michaud (The Perl 6 Pumpking) at YAPC and indicated that Houston.pm might be interested in providing contributions to the Perl 6 project. Patrick indicated that he might be willing to travel to Houston to help us get started in any way he can if we were interested. Patrick suggested our greatest help might be to help get the perl6 tests organized. I think this if nothing else would be a great starter for us to decide how we can best help the project. Many of you on this list seem to feel you cannot participate because of your lack of experience. I would encourage you all to attend. We're all on this list because we all hold in common this little 'ol language Larry and company whipped up. It has definitely saved my butt more than once. I think regardless of experience level, there's something all of us can do to contribute to the Perl 6 project and give back. Thanks, Todd Rinaldo