From toddr at null.net Fri Jan 4 07:45:34 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:45:34 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January meeting proposal In-Reply-To: <435624390711191820r59c5a5ebp3c7f85c6675b6147@mail.gmail.com> References: <00fe01c82a26$73a2ebc0$0201a8c0@covenant> <435624390711191820r59c5a5ebp3c7f85c6675b6147@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <019901c84ee8$db37de30$0201a8c0@covenant> Sorry this email is so late. I sent it a month ago but just found it buried in my work inbox as bounced. Turns out I can send from work to pm.org? ---- Robert, I emailed the author for Net::Jabber 2 months ago with no response. Do you think we'd be taking on too much to get him declared dead and hijack the module? If we did so, this would definitely simplify life for testing strategy. ________________________________ From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of Robert Boone Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:21 PM To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. Subject: Re: [pm-h] January meeting proposal For the rest of the questions I need to look at the code more. 3. Make test is a mess. Almost all of the tests require a jabber server to be present. This is making the modules tests to look very red on the automated CPAN testers site. Robert and Wade told me I should be programming to the interface. This sounds like a grand plan but I have no idea what it means :) I was looking through the tests for Net::Jabber and Net::XMPP both use the authors live jabber server. I'm not sure thats the greatest idea. I think we need to make a MockObject to replace XML::Stream. That may make testing easier. >From looking at the code I thing we would do this for Net::Jabber::Server. But I could be wrong. 1. I need an SVN location if we're going to do group collaboration. Anyone have ideas? There's alway Google project hosting: http://code.google.com/hosting/ _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From robo4288 at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 07:56:37 2008 From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:56:37 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January meeting proposal In-Reply-To: <019901c84ee8$db37de30$0201a8c0@covenant> References: <00fe01c82a26$73a2ebc0$0201a8c0@covenant> <435624390711191820r59c5a5ebp3c7f85c6675b6147@mail.gmail.com> <019901c84ee8$db37de30$0201a8c0@covenant> Message-ID: Yeah, I noticed that Net::Jabber seems like abandon ware. I was looking and there seems to be a few more Jabber modules on CPAN that are more up to date: Jabber::Lite - 13 Feb 2007 - one star Jabber::SimpleSend - 18 Aug 2006 POE::Component::Jabber - 20 Aug 2007 I think there is a process you have to go through before you can take over maintainership of a module, but I'm not sure what that is. On Jan 4, 2008, at 9:45 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > Sorry this email is so late. I sent it a month ago but just found it > buried > in my work inbox as bounced. Turns out I can send from work to pm.org? > > ---- > Robert, > > I emailed the author for Net::Jabber 2 months ago with no response. > Do you > think we'd be taking on too much to get him declared dead and hijack > the > module? If we did so, this would definitely simplify life for testing > strategy. > > > ________________________________ > > From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org > [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of Robert > Boone > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:21 PM > To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. > Subject: Re: [pm-h] January meeting proposal > > > For the rest of the questions I need to look at the code more. > > > > 3. Make test is a mess. Almost all of the tests require a > jabber server to > be present. This is making the modules tests to look very > red on the > automated CPAN testers site. Robert and Wade told me I > should be programming > to the interface. This sounds like a grand plan but I have > no idea what it > means :) > > I was looking through the tests for Net::Jabber and Net::XMPP both > use the authors live jabber server. > I'm not sure thats the greatest idea. > I think we need to make a MockObject to replace XML::Stream. That > may make testing easier. > >From looking at the code I thing we would do this for > Net::Jabber::Server. But I could be wrong. > > > 1. I need an SVN location if we're going to do group > collaboration. Anyone > have ideas? > > > There's alway Google project hosting: > http://code.google.com/hosting/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2419 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/houston/attachments/20080104/58ee9467/attachment.bin From mikeflan at earthlink.net Fri Jan 4 08:29:37 2008 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 10:29:37 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January meeting proposal References: <00fe01c82a26$73a2ebc0$0201a8c0@covenant> <435624390711191820r59c5a5ebp3c7f85c6675b6147@mail.gmail.com> <019901c84ee8$db37de30$0201a8c0@covenant> Message-ID: <477E5EF1.F4B97E8C@earthlink.net> I gather he is not really dead, but has moved on to other things. I say give it a try and see what becomes of it. I'm not sure why you want to own it, but go for it. Mike Todd Rinaldo wrote: > Sorry this email is so late. I sent it a month ago but just found it buried > in my work inbox as bounced. Turns out I can send from work to pm.org? > > ---- > Robert, > > I emailed the author for Net::Jabber 2 months ago with no response. Do you > think we'd be taking on too much to get him declared dead and hijack the > module? If we did so, this would definitely simplify life for testing > strategy. From gwadej at anomaly.org Fri Jan 4 17:42:16 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 19:42:16 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting Message-ID: <20080104194216.2bd160a3@sovvan> Sorry, I'm still running behind. We will be having a technical meeting next Tuesday (01/08) at the 1111 Fannin location. (See the website http://houston.pm.org/meetings.html for directions.) Todd Rinaldo will be leading the kickoff for a new project for the group: A Jabber Bot. He already has code in place and mostly needs help on ideas, design, coding, and testing. Hopefully, this will be an easier project for many people to work on, than our last attempt. The project will be a good way to learn about the Jabber protocol, learn about building and working on CPAN modules, and general Perl stuff. Unfortunately, I haven't managed to update the website with all that went on over the holidays. Hopefully, I'll get a chance soon. G. Wade -- $HOME is where your dotfiles are. -- Gym Quirk From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Jan 7 18:11:37 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:11:37 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Strawberry Perl installation Message-ID: <20080107201137.4bdfcd5b@sovvan> For those of you that have to use Windows, it looks like the Strawberry Perl package is now ready for prime time. Since I don't do Windows any more, I can't say how well it works. But everything I've hear suggests that it is worth a look. G. Wade -- There are trivial truths and there are great Truths. The opposite of a trival truth is obviously false. The opposite of a great Truth is also true. -- Neils Bohr From mikeflan at earthlink.net Mon Jan 7 18:38:45 2008 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:38:45 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Strawberry Perl installation References: <20080107201137.4bdfcd5b@sovvan> Message-ID: <4782E235.AE7B15FD@earthlink.net> "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > For those of you that have to use Windows, it looks like the Strawberry > Perl package is now ready for prime time. Since I don't do Windows any > more, I can't say how well it works. But everything I've hear suggests > that it is worth a look. > > G. Wade > I still use ActiveState 5.8.0 Never had a good reason to upgrade. The module list is OK, not great. Par does not work perfectly with it, but kinda works. That is one of the few complaints I have about it. This is the first I have heard of Strawberry. I don't plan to switch right now, but I'll keep my eye on it. I use Perl a whole lot and can't really do without it. I see now that Strawberry is good for the module selection: http://parsedcontent.blogspot.com/2007/11/no-more-perl-monopoly-for-active-state.html Mike From toddr at null.net Mon Jan 7 19:38:22 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 21:38:22 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Strawberry Perl installation In-Reply-To: <4782E235.AE7B15FD@earthlink.net> References: <20080107201137.4bdfcd5b@sovvan> <4782E235.AE7B15FD@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <022401c851a7$ebc406e0$0201a8c0@covenant> Sorry, the useful link is actually: http://win32.perl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Strawberry_Perl From toddr at null.net Mon Jan 7 20:30:35 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 22:30:35 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Strawberry Perl installation In-Reply-To: <20080107201137.4bdfcd5b@sovvan> References: <20080107201137.4bdfcd5b@sovvan> Message-ID: <022501c851af$37288c30$0201a8c0@covenant> More bounced mail... Lemme try again: I think Mschwern turned me onto Strawberry perl at YAPC. It makes it easy to install all those perl modules you wanted but didn't have a Windows compiler for. I recommend it if your needs go beyond perl into CPAN > -----Original Message----- > From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org > [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of > G. Wade Johnson > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:12 PM > To: Houston Perl Mongers > Subject: [pm-h] Strawberry Perl installation > > For those of you that have to use Windows, it looks like the > Strawberry Perl package is now ready for prime time. Since I > don't do Windows any more, I can't say how well it works. But > everything I've hear suggests that it is worth a look. > > G. Wade > -- > There are trivial truths and there are great Truths. The > opposite of a trival truth is obviously false. The opposite > of a great Truth is also > true. -- Neils Bohr > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > From andy at petdance.com Mon Jan 7 22:38:57 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 00:38:57 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Strawberry Perl installation In-Reply-To: <022501c851af$37288c30$0201a8c0@covenant> References: <20080107201137.4bdfcd5b@sovvan> <022501c851af$37288c30$0201a8c0@covenant> Message-ID: <44352167-31A9-4794-AF27-7AD33630F32A@petdance.com> On Jan 7, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > I think Mschwern turned me onto Strawberry perl at YAPC. It makes it > easy to > install all those perl modules you wanted but didn't have a Windows > compiler > for. I recommend it if your needs go beyond perl into CPAN There's no module "selection". You get everything in CPAN, not just what a packager decides to package up for you. I was going to refer you all to an article on Perlbuzz, but doing so incorrectly filtered my mail as spam. :-( -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com Tue Jan 8 04:47:51 2008 From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 06:47:51 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Strawberry Perl installation Message-ID: Andy, It's been 6 months since I installed SP, but SP definitely does not have all the modules. You seem to be implying that it's bad, though, that it does have all the modules. I'm curious to know why you feel this way if I'm reading your comment right. I would love the link to the perlbuzz article if you have it. -----Original Message----- From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org [mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of andy at petdance.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:39 AM To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. Subject: Re: [pm-h] Strawberry Perl installation On Jan 7, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > I think Mschwern turned me onto Strawberry perl at YAPC. It makes it > easy to > install all those perl modules you wanted but didn't have a Windows > compiler > for. I recommend it if your needs go beyond perl into CPAN There's no module "selection". You get everything in CPAN, not just what a packager decides to package up for you. I was going to refer you all to an article on Perlbuzz, but doing so incorrectly filtered my mail as spam. :-( -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ Generally, this communication is for informational purposes only and it is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. In the event you are receiving the offering materials attached below related to your interest in hedge funds or private equity, this communication may be intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of such fund(s). All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. 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If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to UK legal entities. From andy at petdance.com Tue Jan 8 07:31:19 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:31:19 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Strawberry Perl installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > It's been 6 months since I installed SP, but SP definitely does not > have > all the modules. Strawberry Perl has just been released with Perl 5.10.0. I'm not sure what you mean by "all the modules", since there are 14,000 modules on CPAN. > You seem to be implying that it's bad, though, that it does have all > the > modules. I'm curious to know why you feel this way if I'm reading your > comment right. ActiveState's PPM module system relies on ActiveState packaging up the module for you. Strawberry Perl provides all the tools for you so that you can do your own module building. > I would love the link to the perlbuzz article if you have it. It's the first story on the page. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From mikeflan at earthlink.net Tue Jan 8 13:52:02 2008 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:52:02 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Strawberry Perl installation References: Message-ID: <4783F082.93257236@earthlink.net> Andy Lester wrote: snip > ActiveState's PPM module system relies on ActiveState packaging up the > module for you. Strawberry Perl provides all the tools for you so > that you can do your own module building. > Hey, that would be handy. I may need that someday soon. Mike From toddr at null.net Tue Jan 8 21:00:09 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 23:00:09 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) Message-ID: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> Robert, Wade, and I met downtown tonight. We did an initial review of Net::Jabber::Bot. We discussed current projects around and the possibility of using alternate perl jabber clients, but my previous review of the Jabber::Lite revealed it to be incomplete, and therefore not a good choice for long term use. The first issue we decided to tackle was the 0% success rate of automated tests on CPAN due to dependance on server availability to complete the tests. After some discussion, we decided to make a slight alteration to the module to allow one to feed in a client object, rather than only creating it automajically via new. This will allow us to provide a "mock" object we can use to test and validate functionality. We've done some initial cleanup as a proof of concept for the mock approach. There are 3 test files left to do the equivalent cleanup. When we're done, there should be no server dependancies except for 1 test file requiring an env variable to be set before it runs. We have setup a google code project to track our progress. It was a quick setup, considering we all had google accounts. If anyone has any interest, please let us know and we'll set you up. Todd http://code.google.com/p/perl-net-jabber-bot http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Net::Jabber::Bot From sisk at mojotoad.com Tue Jan 8 21:47:29 2008 From: sisk at mojotoad.com (Matt Sisk) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:47:29 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) In-Reply-To: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> References: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> Message-ID: <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> > We have setup a google code project to track our progress. It was a quick > setup, considering we all had google accounts. If anyone has any interest, > please let us know and we'll set you up. I've been out of the loop lately insofar as Google Code is concerned, so I was somewhat interested to see the services the site was offering. Any thoughts on its utility as opposed to sourceforge? (and outside of code revision systems, freshmeat) Cheers, Matt (living in Pittsburgh now, but still lurking with you guys) From andy at petdance.com Tue Jan 8 21:49:49 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 23:49:49 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) In-Reply-To: <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> References: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> Message-ID: <57891D39-390E-4F2B-B63F-9EBB8254383D@petdance.com> On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:47 PM, Matt Sisk wrote: > Any thoughts on its utility as opposed to sourceforge? (and outside of > code revision systems, freshmeat) Google Code is wonderful. See my blog post here: http://perlbuzz.com/2007/11/perl-gratitude-2007.html We'll see if it gets rejected as spam this time... -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From sisk at mojotoad.com Tue Jan 8 22:06:01 2008 From: sisk at mojotoad.com (Matt Sisk) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:06:01 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) In-Reply-To: <57891D39-390E-4F2B-B63F-9EBB8254383D@petdance.com> References: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> <57891D39-390E-4F2B-B63F-9EBB8254383D@petdance.com> Message-ID: <47846449.3020300@mojotoad.com> Andy Lester wrote: > Google Code is wonderful. See my blog post here: http://perlbuzz.com/2007/11/perl-gratitude-2007.html > Ahh, yeah -- you're the one behind perlbuzz. Good work. I'm finally in the process of pushing out some new releases of my various perl messes, hopefully with better design. One of my requirements, though, is to finally put the modules into a public code revision repository. I was assuming this would be sourceforge, but I'll take a gander at google code. Cheers, Matt From sisk at mojotoad.com Tue Jan 8 22:08:38 2008 From: sisk at mojotoad.com (Matt Sisk) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:08:38 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) In-Reply-To: <47846449.3020300@mojotoad.com> References: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> <57891D39-390E-4F2B-B63F-9EBB8254383D@petdance.com> <47846449.3020300@mojotoad.com> Message-ID: <478464E6.8000304@mojotoad.com> Matt Sisk wrote: > Ahh, yeah -- you're the one behind perlbuzz. Good work. > Ack. Short circuiting, apparently. :) Matt From andy at petdance.com Tue Jan 8 22:10:46 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:10:46 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) In-Reply-To: <478464E6.8000304@mojotoad.com> References: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> <57891D39-390E-4F2B-B63F-9EBB8254383D@petdance.com> <47846449.3020300@mojotoad.com> <478464E6.8000304@mojotoad.com> Message-ID: <76C89A6B-C146-4BF3-915E-ABC2F430FDFC@petdance.com> On Jan 9, 2008, at 12:08 AM, Matt Sisk wrote: > Ack. Short circuiting, apparently. :) Funny mention that, I am also behind ack! :-) http://petdance.com/ack/ xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From toddr at null.net Tue Jan 8 22:26:01 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:26:01 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) In-Reply-To: <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> References: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> Message-ID: <000801c85288$833dbb70$0201a8c0@covenant> If nothing else. Google Code is WAY faster than Source Forge. We're talking milliseconds when I click on links versus click on a link and go get coffee on Source Forge. I realize I'm exaggerating a little here, but this has been a big point of hesitation for me on using Source Forge. > -----Original Message----- > From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org > [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sisk > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:47 PM > To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. > Subject: Re: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) > > > We have setup a google code project to track our progress. It was a > > quick setup, considering we all had google accounts. If > anyone has any > > interest, please let us know and we'll set you up. > > I've been out of the loop lately insofar as Google Code is > concerned, so I was somewhat interested to see the services > the site was offering. > > Any thoughts on its utility as opposed to sourceforge? (and > outside of code revision systems, freshmeat) > > Cheers, > Matt (living in Pittsburgh now, but still lurking with you guys) > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > From gwadej at anomaly.org Wed Jan 9 16:31:51 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:31:51 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) In-Reply-To: <76C89A6B-C146-4BF3-915E-ABC2F430FDFC@petdance.com> References: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> <57891D39-390E-4F2B-B63F-9EBB8254383D@petdance.com> <47846449.3020300@mojotoad.com> <478464E6.8000304@mojotoad.com> <76C89A6B-C146-4BF3-915E-ABC2F430FDFC@petdance.com> Message-ID: <20080109183151.76659383@sovvan> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:10:46 -0600 Andy Lester wrote: > > On Jan 9, 2008, at 12:08 AM, Matt Sisk wrote: > > > Ack. Short circuiting, apparently. :) > > > Funny mention that, I am also behind ack! :-) > > http://petdance.com/ack/ Thanks for that, by the way. This has been replacing a Rube Goldberg mess of find/grep/xargs that I've been using to search source files in a fairly large codebase. G. Wade -- Bugs lurk in corners and congregate at boundaries. -- Boris Bezier From andy at petdance.com Wed Jan 9 16:34:42 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:34:42 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) In-Reply-To: <20080109183151.76659383@sovvan> References: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> <57891D39-390E-4F2B-B63F-9EBB8254383D@petdance.com> <47846449.3020300@mojotoad.com> <478464E6.8000304@mojotoad.com> <76C89A6B-C146-4BF3-915E-ABC2F430FDFC@petdance.com> <20080109183151.76659383@sovvan> Message-ID: <0B887C4E-7B67-448E-A5AA-4AED5F40912A@petdance.com> On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:31 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: >> http://petdance.com/ack/ > > Thanks for that, by the way. > > This has been replacing a Rube Goldberg mess of find/grep/xargs that > I've been using to search source files in a fairly large codebase. You're very welcome. May I put that quote on the ack homepage? I find that users are better at explaining why ack is useful than I am. Thanks, xoa -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From gwadej at anomaly.org Wed Jan 9 18:24:52 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 20:24:52 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] January Meeting (shut up and code) In-Reply-To: <0B887C4E-7B67-448E-A5AA-4AED5F40912A@petdance.com> References: <000001c8527c$82d5c850$0201a8c0@covenant> <47845FF1.8050800@mojotoad.com> <57891D39-390E-4F2B-B63F-9EBB8254383D@petdance.com> <47846449.3020300@mojotoad.com> <478464E6.8000304@mojotoad.com> <76C89A6B-C146-4BF3-915E-ABC2F430FDFC@petdance.com> <20080109183151.76659383@sovvan> <0B887C4E-7B67-448E-A5AA-4AED5F40912A@petdance.com> Message-ID: <20080109202452.659122cd@sovvan> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:34:42 -0600 Andy Lester wrote: > > On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:31 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > > >> http://petdance.com/ack/ > > > > Thanks for that, by the way. > > > > This has been replacing a Rube Goldberg mess of find/grep/xargs that > > I've been using to search source files in a fairly large codebase. > > > You're very welcome. May I put that quote on the ack homepage? I > find that users are better at explaining why ack is useful than I am. Feel free to quote me on that. G. Wade -- Experience isn't hereditary - it ain't even contagious. -- John Gall From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com Thu Jan 10 14:49:02 2008 From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:49:02 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Example code - NJB Message-ID: I've released an example script using Net::Jabber::Bot into the SVN repository. It'll be in the next CPAN release http://perl-net-jabber-bot.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/examples/ Generally, this communication is for informational purposes only and it is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. 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URL: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/private/houston/attachments/20080116/8fb9478f/attachment.html From will.willis at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 06:53:49 2008 From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:53:49 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] more jabber related news Message-ID: <6ee1e6090801190653r6757f59y590498f1e453f006@mail.gmail.com> http://florianjensen.com/2008/01/17/aol-adopting-xmpp-aka-jabber/ -Will From toddr at null.net Sun Jan 20 12:44:59 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:44:59 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] more jabber related news In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090801190653r6757f59y590498f1e453f006@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ee1e6090801190653r6757f59y590498f1e453f006@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007501c85ba5$53d52c30$0201a8c0@covenant> Thanks will. I saw that just this morning. Very interesting. Sounds like I need more test scripts... :) > -----Original Message----- > From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org > [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of > Will Willis > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:54 AM > To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. > Subject: [pm-h] more jabber related news > > http://florianjensen.com/2008/01/17/aol-adopting-xmpp-aka-jabber/ > > -Will > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > From gwadej at anomaly.org Tue Jan 29 17:04:55 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:04:55 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] February Meeting Message-ID: <20080129190455.2802bb39@sovvan> It's two weeks until the next meeting (February 12). Any suggestions/volunteers for a topic? G. Wade -- When they first built the University of California at Irvine they just put the buildings in. They did not put any sidewalks, they just planted grass. The next year, they came back and put the sidewalks where the trails were in the grass. Perl is just that kind of language. It is not designed from first principles. Perl is those sidewalks in the grass. -- Larry Wall From gwadej at anomaly.org Tue Jan 29 20:29:08 2008 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:29:08 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm website updated Message-ID: <20080129222908.339c92d5@sovvan> I know I've been doing a lousy job of keeping the group website (http://huoston.pm.org/) up-to-date. Things have been a bit hectic lately. I finally got the time to sit down and update the site for the last three talks and add the information for the new Net::Jabber::Bot project. While I was at it, I updated our external links to include Perl Buzz. This is a great site for keeping up with what is happening in the Perl world. Hopefully, I'll be able to keep the site updated a bit more frequently in the future. G. Wade -- If there's no solution, there's no problem. -- Rick Hoselton From toddr at null.net Thu Jan 31 06:14:25 2008 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:14:25 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] February Meeting In-Reply-To: <20080129190455.2802bb39@sovvan> References: <20080129190455.2802bb39@sovvan> Message-ID: <1DC4BB82-E870-4511-9DC4-B4AC85B497B4@null.net> Wade, As stated on my earlier email, I'm up for using further bot development. We really just put the project together last meeting, I think this time around would be a good chance to dig into the code. Any other votes? On Jan 29, 2008, at 7:04 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > It's two weeks until the next meeting (February 12). > > Any suggestions/volunteers for a topic? > > G. Wade > -- > When they first built the University of California at Irvine they just > put the buildings in. They did not put any sidewalks, they just > planted > grass. The next year, they came back and put the sidewalks where the > trails were in the grass. Perl is just that kind of language. It is > not > designed from first principles. Perl is those sidewalks in the grass. > -- Larry Wall > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ Todd Rinaldo toddr at null.net