From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Mar  5 20:54:56 2007
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:54:56 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Next week's Meeting
Message-ID: <20070305225456.1aacb21d@sovvan>

The March meeting will be here next week and we have a bit of a
problem. We don't have a topic.

Worse, I lost track of the time and haven't found anyone to cover for
March.

Any volunteers to talk? Any cool modules you've worked with, or
interesting projects you've worked on?

Any topics that we can use for a discussion?

Any projects that you are working on, that you could use the help of
everyone at the meeting?

G. Wade
-- 
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Mar  8 05:13:41 2007
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 07:13:41 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] YACP::Europe re-scheduled to start a day
	earlier!
Message-ID: <20070308071341.4e70e05a@sovvan>

In case some of you were planning to go to YAPC::Europe.

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:12:53 +0100
From: Thomas Klausner <domm at cpan.org>
To: pm_groups at pm.org
Subject: [pm_groups] YACP::Europe re-scheduled to start a day earlier!


Hi!

Please forward this to your local groups, especially if you already 
forwarded the Call for Papers/Participation.

Thanks!

----- Forwarded message from Thomas Klausner <domm at cpan.org> -----

From: Thomas Klausner <domm at cpan.org>
Subject: [Conferences] YACP::Europe re-scheduled to start a day earlier!
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:43 +0100
To: conferences at yapceurope.org


The bad news: The Conference has to be rescheduled slightly
-----------------------------------------------------------

The ESC Congress 2007 is even bigger than we thought. They expect 15.000
cardiologists, plus their spouses! Due to this, there is nearly not a
single bed available in Vienna for the night from Friday, 31st August
to Saturday, 1st September.

As we do not want to force you to leave on the last day of the
conference, we decided to 
  **reschedule YAPC::Europe to Tuesday, 28th to Thursday, 30th August.**

We are very sorry for this, and do hope that it does not cause any
problems for anybody who might have already booked his or her flights
or hotel. If this change does cause you some problems, please inform
us, and we'll see what we can do to help you.


The good news: Register or submit a talk until 31th March and win a
book!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

We have two coffee-table books (one including a DVD) on Vienna to
raffle off. To enter the contest, all you need to do is to either
register for the conference and pay your ticket, or submit a talk
proposal until 31th March.

-  Zentralfriedhof Vienna: The living Graveyard. Including DVD:
Universum Documentary A documentary about the Zentralfriedhof, which is
the second largest cemetery by area and largest by number of interred
in Europe. In German and English.

-  Wien. Tradition und Moderne. by Doris Simhofer This book is
   German only, but has lots of nice photos :-)

Winners will be announced on 3th April.


YAPC::Europe 2007 website:
--------------------------

http://vienna.yapceurope.org 


Thomas Klausner, 
on behalf of Vienna.pm

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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Mar  9 17:17:51 2007
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:17:51 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Tuesday's meeting - canceled
Message-ID: <20070309191751.7e07f120@sovvan>

It looks like we'll be cancelling the Houston.pm meeting for next
Tuesday. At present, we have no speaker and no place to hold the
meeting.

I apologize for not having a backup plan for this month.

G. Wade
-- 
A 'language' is a dialect with an army.

From toddr at null.net  Sat Mar 10 09:05:43 2007
From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:05:43 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20070309191751.7e07f120@sovvan>
References: <20070309191751.7e07f120@sovvan>
Message-ID: <000c01c76336$59106920$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>

On that topic,  I suggest we discuss next month's meeting topic now. The
meeting is April 10, 2007. As far as topics, I can't come up with anything
specific.

It does occur to me that most of the people attending our meetings seem to
be highly skilled. Maybe we could try a mini-hackathon if anyone was
interested. This would have to be RSVP to work. Maybe we could extend the
hours and make it a longer meeting? Start earlier? If this'll work for you
guys, then I networking and the room can be provided. 

Of personal interest to me would be something perl6 related. I just got done
listening to Uri Guttman, on perl cast http://www.perlcast.com/. And there
was a mention of a "docathon" for perl6. Maybe we could contribute in this
way? We could learn more about perl6 and help with the cause at the same
time. 

I'm open to other suggestions. I think this could be fun. What do you guys
think?


From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sat Mar 10 09:26:12 2007
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:26:12 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <000c01c76336$59106920$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
References: <20070309191751.7e07f120@sovvan>
	<000c01c76336$59106920$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
Message-ID: <20070310112612.418bd275@sovvan>

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:05:43 -0600
"Todd Rinaldo" <toddr at null.net> wrote:

> On that topic,  I suggest we discuss next month's meeting topic now.
> The meeting is April 10, 2007. As far as topics, I can't come up with
> anything specific.

It would be a good idea to think about topics a few months into the
future, not just next month. This allows someone to volunteer to
present even if they don't think they can prepare before the next
meeting.

> It does occur to me that most of the people attending our meetings
> seem to be highly skilled. Maybe we could try a mini-hackathon if
> anyone was interested. This would have to be RSVP to work. Maybe we
> could extend the hours and make it a longer meeting? Start earlier?
> If this'll work for you guys, then I networking and the room can be
> provided. 

We've talked about projects in the past, and even trying to help out
the Perl community. But, maybe a hackathon would be more successful.

> Of personal interest to me would be something perl6 related. I just
> got done listening to Uri Guttman, on perl cast
> http://www.perlcast.com/. And there was a mention of a "docathon" for
> perl6. Maybe we could contribute in this way? We could learn more
> about perl6 and help with the cause at the same time. 
> 
> I'm open to other suggestions. I think this could be fun. What do you
> guys think?

Sounds like a good set of ideas to me.

What does everyone else think?

G. Wade
-- 
Never express yourself more clearly than you think.    -- Niels Bohr

From fluhmann at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 07:31:42 2007
From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:31:42 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20070310112612.418bd275@sovvan>
References: <20070309191751.7e07f120@sovvan>
	<000c01c76336$59106920$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
	<20070310112612.418bd275@sovvan>
Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0703120731o193cbd4o5ce837a7fa4b8f25@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/10/07, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:05:43 -0600
> "Todd Rinaldo" <toddr at null.net> wrote:
>
> > It does occur to me that most of the people attending our meetings
> > seem to be highly skilled. Maybe we could try a mini-hackathon if
> > anyone was interested. This would have to be RSVP to work. Maybe we
> > could extend the hours and make it a longer meeting? Start earlier?
> > If this'll work for you guys, then I networking and the room can be
> > provided.
>
> We've talked about projects in the past, and even trying to help out
> the Perl community. But, maybe a hackathon would be more successful.


I think the mini-hackathon idea is GREAT!  Of course, I won't be able to
make it (seeing as how I'm now about 7 hours away vs. only 2), but I think
the idea is great.  It would also give someone "organizing" it some great
exposure to possibly organizing one immediately after this year's YAPC ;-)
*wink wink*.  Last year's post-yapc hackathon was fairly small (I believe)
as compared to Chicago's full blown hackathon later that year.  If there's
any interest on that front, let me know.

Jeremy
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From robo4288 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 07:44:35 2007
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:44:35 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <000c01c76336$59106920$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
References: <20070309191751.7e07f120@sovvan>
	<000c01c76336$59106920$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
Message-ID: <435624390703120744h7f303dafx8bfec5ddcee585c9@mail.gmail.com>

I would be interested in a hackathon or a docathon for perl 6.

Robert

On 3/10/07, Todd Rinaldo <toddr at null.net> wrote:
> On that topic,  I suggest we discuss next month's meeting topic now. The
> meeting is April 10, 2007. As far as topics, I can't come up with anything
> specific.
>
> It does occur to me that most of the people attending our meetings seem to
> be highly skilled. Maybe we could try a mini-hackathon if anyone was
> interested. This would have to be RSVP to work. Maybe we could extend the
> hours and make it a longer meeting? Start earlier? If this'll work for you
> guys, then I networking and the room can be provided.
>
> Of personal interest to me would be something perl6 related. I just got done
> listening to Uri Guttman, on perl cast http://www.perlcast.com/. And there
> was a mention of a "docathon" for perl6. Maybe we could contribute in this
> way? We could learn more about perl6 and help with the cause at the same
> time.
>
> I'm open to other suggestions. I think this could be fun. What do you guys
> think?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From mongers at bsod.net  Mon Mar 12 07:45:17 2007
From: mongers at bsod.net (Pete Krawczyk)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:45:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0703120731o193cbd4o5ce837a7fa4b8f25@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070309191751.7e07f120@sovvan>
	<000c01c76336$59106920$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
	<20070310112612.418bd275@sovvan>
	<7f7c2d5e0703120731o193cbd4o5ce837a7fa4b8f25@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703120939150.9402@steward.bsod.net>

Subject: Re: [pm-h] April Meeting
From: Jeremy Fluhmann <fluhmann at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:31:42 -0500

}Last year's post-yapc hackathon was fairly small (I believe)
}as compared to Chicago's full blown hackathon later that year. 

Actually - they were about the same size, go figure.  More locals showed 
up for the November one than the June one, but the June one had many of 
the "heavyweights" of the community hacking it out in an unused IIT 
cafeteria.  The November one was just more formal and more publicized.

Also, the post-YAPC one was "hack on whatever you want", while the 
November one was "hack on whatever you want, but we could use some hands 
on Parrot."  Similar yet different.

-Pete K
-- 
Pete Krawczyk
    Chicago Perl Mongers
    mongers at bsod dot net

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Tue Mar 13 05:20:26 2007
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:20:26 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] March Meeting canceled
Message-ID: <20070313072026.0cf3a270@sovvan>

Just a quick reminder that tonight's meeting was canceled due to lack
of a speaker and place to hold the meeting.

As Todd suggested, next month's meeting will be here before you know
it. Volunteer now to reserve your spot.

G. Wade
-- 
Never express yourself more clearly than you think.    -- Niels Bohr

From Dennis.Berestecki at USOncology.com  Thu Mar 22 16:16:24 2007
From: Dennis.Berestecki at USOncology.com (Berestecki, Dennis)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:16:24 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] PERL Training
Message-ID: <ECC776C6C20B284DAAE9514DE804154505F6B8C8@TXHOUS1EB002.uson.usoncology.int>

> Hello Houston Mongers!
> 
> I am a PERL hacker wannabe and I am looking for some recommendations for beginner (and then advanced) training classes. The classes don't HAVE to be in Houston, but it would help. My company will probably be willing to foot the bill, but they are more likely to do so if it is not TOO expensive. I don't want to take classes that are useless, however, just for the sake of training.
> 
> I am pretty much a beginner, although I have been "reading" a lot about PERL, and I am fascinated by Regular Expressions. I just need something to jumpstart my involvement. My primary need for PERL is for scripting Tivoli Storage Manager activities, but my interests are definitely beyond this niche usage.
> 
> Any suggestions you may have will be GREATLY appreciated!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Dennis Berestecki
> Tivoli Storage Manager Administrator
> US Oncology - Houston, TX
> 281.642.4786 (Cell)
> dennis.berestecki at usoncology.com
> 
> 


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From joey at joeykelly.net  Thu Mar 22 16:26:31 2007
From: joey at joeykelly.net (Joey Kelly)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:26:31 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] PERL Training
In-Reply-To: <ECC776C6C20B284DAAE9514DE804154505F6B8C8@TXHOUS1EB002.uson.usoncology.int>
References: <ECC776C6C20B284DAAE9514DE804154505F6B8C8@TXHOUS1EB002.uson.usoncology.int>
Message-ID: <200703221826.43708.joey@joeykelly.net>

On Thursday 22 March 2007 18:16, Berestecki, Dennis wrote:
> > Hello Houston Mongers!
> >
> > I am a PERL hacker wannabe and I am looking for some recommendations for
> > beginner (and then advanced) training classes. The classes don't HAVE to
> > be in Houston, but it would help. 

You're in luck. There is a Perl conference in Houston during the last week of 
June, and after the conference there will be 2 days of intense 
classroom-style training available.

http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2007/

Hope this helps.

--Joey

> > My company will probably be willing to 
> > foot the bill, but they are more likely to do so if it is not TOO
> > expensive. I don't want to take classes that are useless, however, just
> > for the sake of training.
> >
> > I am pretty much a beginner, although I have been "reading" a lot about
> > PERL, and I am fascinated by Regular Expressions. I just need something
> > to jumpstart my involvement. My primary need for PERL is for scripting
> > Tivoli Storage Manager activities, but my interests are definitely beyond
> > this niche usage.
> >
> > Any suggestions you may have will be GREATLY appreciated!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Dennis Berestecki
> > Tivoli Storage Manager Administrator
> > US Oncology - Houston, TX
> > 281.642.4786 (Cell)
> > dennis.berestecki at usoncology.com
>
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Mar 22 16:46:44 2007
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:46:44 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] PERL Training
In-Reply-To: <ECC776C6C20B284DAAE9514DE804154505F6B8C8@TXHOUS1EB002.uson.usoncology.int>
References: <ECC776C6C20B284DAAE9514DE804154505F6B8C8@TXHOUS1EB002.uson.usoncology.int>
Message-ID: <20070322184644.4baa8735@sovvan>

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:16:24 -0500
"Berestecki, Dennis" <Dennis.Berestecki at USOncology.com> wrote:

> > Hello Houston Mongers!

Hi Dennis,

Welcome to Houston.pm.

> > I am a PERL hacker wannabe and I am looking for some
> > recommendations for beginner (and then advanced) training classes.
> > The classes don't HAVE to be in Houston, but it would help. My
> > company will probably be willing to foot the bill, but they are
> > more likely to do so if it is not TOO expensive. I don't want to
> > take classes that are useless, however, just for the sake of
> > training.

I know Stonehenge Consulting (http://www.stonehenge.com/) does
training. I also found this directory of Perl training services.
(http://www.perltraining.org/country/USA.html)

However, many of use learned Perl from "Learning Perl". The Perl
Monastery (perlmonks.org) is another good resource for answering
questions on the Perl language.

> > I am pretty much a beginner, although I have been "reading" a lot
> > about PERL, and I am fascinated by Regular Expressions. I just need
> > something to jumpstart my involvement. My primary need for PERL is
> > for scripting Tivoli Storage Manager activities, but my interests
> > are definitely beyond this niche usage.

The best book on regular expressions is definitely "Mastering Regular
Expressions".

Until you get a chance to go to training, I would definitely recommend
asking questions here or at perlmonks.org. 

G. Wade

PS. One other little thing. According to the Perl FAQ, the spelling is
Perl (for the language) or perl (for the executable), but never PERL.
Despite many jokes, Perl is not an acronym.
-- 
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a
system of government.

From fluhmann at gmail.com  Thu Mar 22 19:34:18 2007
From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:34:18 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] PERL Training
In-Reply-To: <200703221826.43708.joey@joeykelly.net>
References: <ECC776C6C20B284DAAE9514DE804154505F6B8C8@TXHOUS1EB002.uson.usoncology.int>
	<200703221826.43708.joey@joeykelly.net>
Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0703221934u2d5d642aue54b73b85fea23ab@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/22/07, Joey Kelly <joey at joeykelly.net> wrote:
>
> On Thursday 22 March 2007 18:16, Berestecki, Dennis wrote:
> > > Hello Houston Mongers!
> > >
> > > I am a PERL hacker wannabe and I am looking for some recommendations
> for
> > > beginner (and then advanced) training classes. The classes don't HAVE
> to
> > > be in Houston, but it would help.
>
> You're in luck. There is a Perl conference in Houston during the last week
> of
> June, and after the conference there will be 2 days of intense
> classroom-style training available.


Absolutely!  :-)  99% probability that the prices for the classes will be
the same as last year, $200.  Also, Dennis, the conference itself runs $85
for the early bird price, or $100 thereafter.  Registration will be opening
as soon as the final payment integration piece is added.  One of the
registration choices includes a training class option.

Jeremy
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Mar 26 17:34:26 2007
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:34:26 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] YAPC-NA CFP deadline approaching
Message-ID: <20070326193426.78e0960b@sovvan>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:42:21 -0500
From: "Jeremy Fluhmann" <fluhmann at gmail.com>
To: pm_groups at pm.org
Subject: [pm_groups] YAPC-NA CFP deadline approaching


Please forward to your pm lists (actually, any list that might have an
interest)
----

Two weeks remain in the Call For Participation!  Visit
http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2007 to register as a new user (or
login with your existing account) and submit a talk proposal.  If
possible, please indicate (in the comments section) if you consider
this talk to be suitable for a beginner, intermediate, or advanced Perl
user.  Some of the comments from last year indicated a desire to know
the level of knowledge expected of talk attendees.

Official CFP posting at http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2007/cfp.html

Jeremy Fluhmann
http://www.yapc.org/America


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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Mar 26 19:06:09 2007
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:06:09 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
Message-ID: <20070326210609.61ae4bed@sovvan>

Has anyone volunteered to present or coordinate for the April meeting?
April 10th is only two weeks away.

There was some talk about a potential for a mini-hackathon, but I
didn't hear a conclusion to that idea.

G. Wade
-- 
Bugs lurk in corners and congregate at boundaries.   -- Boris Bezier

From robo4288 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 29 09:52:37 2007
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:52:37 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20070326210609.61ae4bed@sovvan>
References: <20070326210609.61ae4bed@sovvan>
Message-ID: <435624390703290952u22b97cdala747108b94449322@mail.gmail.com>

Unless anyone else has something I have been toying around with the
Moose module. I can talk about it if no one has anything else.

Robert

On 3/26/07, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
> Has anyone volunteered to present or coordinate for the April meeting?
> April 10th is only two weeks away.
>
> There was some talk about a potential for a mini-hackathon, but I
> didn't hear a conclusion to that idea.
>
> G. Wade
> --
> Bugs lurk in corners and congregate at boundaries.   -- Boris Bezier
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
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> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From toddr at null.net  Thu Mar 29 16:31:37 2007
From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:31:37 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <435624390703290952u22b97cdala747108b94449322@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070326210609.61ae4bed@sovvan>
	<435624390703290952u22b97cdala747108b94449322@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c7725a$663a0510$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>

Looks interesting. 1111 Fannin is availble if no one else has a preference. 

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Subject: Re: [pm-h] April Meeting

Unless anyone else has something I have been toying around with the Moose
module. I can talk about it if no one has anything else.

Robert

On 3/26/07, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
> Has anyone volunteered to present or coordinate for the April meeting?
> April 10th is only two weeks away.
>
> There was some talk about a potential for a mini-hackathon, but I 
> didn't hear a conclusion to that idea.
>
> G. Wade
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